legal or not ?

GlendaLH · #1 04-16-2002, 07:20 PM

I'm not sure if this was the right place to post a message, but I'm looking for a legal question to be answered. When an inmate has been sent to a CDC fire camp, special skills divison...... is it legal for that camp to relocate that inmate to another camp for no apparent reason ? The inmate has never been in trouble and obeys all rules. There is no apparent reason but they're own personal agenda. He is already at a camp 4 hrs away from his family, they are now sending him to a camp 7 to 8 hours away.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thank you

jdswifey02 · #2 04-16-2002, 07:55 PM

Unfortunately, I know here in IL they can put you wherever they want to... they don't have to have a reason... and they tend to put people as far away from their families as possible...

Budwoman · #3 04-17-2002, 09:36 AM

GLENDA:

IT SEEMS IN MOST ALL STATES IT IS LEGAL FOR THE DOC TO DO WHATEVER THEY WISH, INCLUDING MOVING INMATES OUT OF THEIR RESIDENCE STATE IF THEY SO DESIRE.

THEY ALWAYS USE THE "NOT ENOUGH BEDS" EXCUSE FOR ALL OF IT.

I AM A DIABETIC AND HAVE PROBLEMS RIDING FOR 3 TO 5 HOURS IN ONE DAY. MY FEET AND LEGS SWELL AND HURT.
MY SON HAS BEEN MOVED MANY TIMES ALL OVER THE STATE OF NC. I ALWAYS HAVE TO CALL THE STATE DOC AND SEND THEM A DOCTORS EXCUSE TO HAVE HIM MOVED BACK CLOSER TO HOME. THEY USUALLY DO THAT, BUT I HAVE TO GO THROUGH ALL KINDS OF RED TAPE TO GET IT.

TRY TALKING WITH HIGHER UPS TO SEE WHAT YOU CAN DO.

DONNA

sherri13 · #4 04-18-2002, 08:15 AM

i am afraid it is legal--of course that doesn't make it right

Joy · #5 04-18-2002, 10:04 AM

When I asked INS why they moved Juan so much, they said it was for financial reasons. Whatever is cheaper for them.

KConnor56 · #6 06-08-2002, 03:41 AM

Yes in calif prisons they can send where ever they want, when ever they want. In fact for the last 10yrs they have been rotating many inmates around the state. On one 3yr term I did I went to 5 different prisons, and even moved alot from one yard to another yard. They claim by moving inmates around alot it helps to keep prison gangs from forming or gaining too much power.

38special · #7 06-09-2002, 01:37 PM

Ms. GlendaLH:
Try going to the closest facility in your area that matches your inmates custody (Is he maximum, close, medium, or minimum?) and ask the warden at his convenience, would he please get your inmate closer to home. The drive would be easier on you and the inmate would have outside help in maintaining a "troublefree incarceration". Make a call to your closest facility first for an appointment with the warden. They will not be extremely helpful, but be persistent. They will resolve finally by letting you talk to an assistant .The assistant will probably blow smoke that suits your smell, but be sure in getting that persons name and phone number. Call and make smell the person did what they said and THANK them. Lastly, tell your inmate to expect a visit from the warden of his/her facility in which a persuasion of "just forget it" conversation will occur. Tell him/her to cut a deal of, can I get back closer home for my families convenience. "I will be cool, get an institutional job, and maintain until it is feasible for my transfer." If he buys the warden's support or whomever he sends for the initial meeting; he will get the transfer. Good Luck and be calm, but persistent. Call everyday to the closest facility until someone talks to you or contacts your inmate. Lastly, incorporate your county D.A. with helping you. If YOU can get your D.A.'s support, you will accomplish the same goal. ONCE YOUR INMATE GETS TO THE CLOSEST FACILITY, TELL HIM TO GET A JOB IN THE INSTITUTION. Tell him to go to Social Services (his case worker) and get a job now. Tell him the more important the job, the more important he is and more support will be given in his remaining or getting assistance. Tell him to make an appointment with the Captain for requesting his/her assistance in getting a job. Know the job opening before applying. Once the job is obtained, he must: 1. Don't be an "institutional mule". 2. Keep a clear record. 3. Don't become a "snitch", but be handy in pertinent information times such as a stabbing prevention. Always be a "convict" not an inmate. 4. Remain respectful 5. Thank everyone that helps you even when the information received is not what you wanted. Say, "Thank you for trying or considering". These are helpful hints that I saw work very well while working in the DOC. They are only options, but may work. Again, Good Luck!!!!!!

38 Special...........................

KConnor56 · #8 06-09-2002, 06:17 PM

GlendaLH,

38 special is right, also, CDC has a policy of trying to house inmates as close to their families as possible. He can put in for a hardship transfer, which request to be transfered to a prison closer to his family because it creates a hardship for his family to visit at his new location. He can also file a 602, with the institution, which is an inmate appeal to a CDC action. I've seen these work sometimes, but it's a long drawnout process.

MichelleL409 · #9 06-14-2002, 02:34 AM

Was the inmate reclassified?
How long had he been at that site?