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Old 10-09-2017, 08:36 PM
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"They saw themselves in these younger women," Mogulescu explained, referring to sex workers incarcerated for "trafficking" younger women. They gave the younger women advice on how to engage in sex work more safely -- from how to identify potentially dangerous clients, to which places to avoid. But in the eyes of the law, when a minor is involved, those actions constitute sex trafficking.
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Old 10-09-2017, 09:11 PM
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ALL sex workers are victims, but it does not mean they get a free pass to help others engage in sex work. Perpetuating the harm, especially of young females, should carry consequence...it is NOT a victimless crime.
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Not all sex workers are victims. Not unless we're going to consider all workers victims (I don't). Or not unless we're willing to slut-shame people (mostly women) for performing sex work for a living (I don't).

Sex work might be the least degrading work someone can do for themselves.

Regarding the article...yes the laws hurt the wrong people, that is their intention. If prostitution were legalized, if people stopped slut-shaming the SWs, we wouldn't have the problems we do today. I'm fairly confident that the laws will change, soon. The attitudes need to change first, though.

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Not all sex workers are victims. Not unless we're going to consider all workers victims (I don't). Or not unless we're willing to slut-shame people (mostly women) for performing sex work for a living (I don't).

Sex work might be the least degrading work someone can do for themselves.

Regarding the article...yes the laws hurt the wrong people, that is their intention. If prostitution were legalized, if people stopped slut-shaming the SWs, we wouldn't have the problems we do today. I'm fairly confident that the laws will change, soon. The attitudes need to change first, though.
Yeah, maybe. In Asia that's certain all true. But all the women engaging it in here are doing so because of a lack of education and work opportunities. They typically come from the poor areas. Willing? I guess, they made a choice.

But by no means can you say they want to do it. Drug abuse and suicide is very high in that population.
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But all the women engaging it in here are doing so because of a lack of education and work opportunities.
All of the women? Every last one of them? No. Plenty of SWs are college educated or are already professionals in their given careers. Many find SW less degrading than waiting tables. And some, even the educated and professional ones, simply don't have another work opportunity that pays $500/hour like SW does. Even the most educated people in the country don't have that kind of pay just sitting around for them.

SWs come from all stripes and walks of life. These laws aren't hitting the $500/hour escorts, their pimps or the dudes at backpage. They're hitting the street level men and women who actually are the victims of this game.
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ALL sex workers are victims, but it does not mean they get a free pass to help others engage in sex work. Perpetuating the harm, especially of young females, should carry consequence...it is NOT a victimless crime.
Not all sex workers are victims! Lots of them choose to be in this life whether it's because they are feeding a drug habit or a bunch of kids. I never sold myself but have known plenty who have, most knew exactly what they were doing. I'm not saying that all are doing it out of choice. But to say they are all victims is a bunch of crap.
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Jsanner's more important point is that many other workers are also victims. What about people whose only option is to work in local services for a pathetic wage and no benefits? Why are they not just as much victims as sex workers? What about the women all over the world working in horrible situations for horrible wages? In my view all this feeds into a view of women as poor passive creatures who have to be protected, especially from anything to do with sex.

That being said, I think it's clear that many sex workers would prefer to do something else if they could find something suitable. We should help with that just as we should help ALL exploited workers to have a decent life. I don't see why sex work is, in principle, more demeaning than a number of other things people are forced to do to earn a living.
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