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Old 09-06-2017, 02:18 AM
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Are there evacuation procedures in place for prisons in the event that this storm hits the US? I just read that it's wind span is the size of the entire state of Florida.
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Unless there is a risk of flooding, there is rarely cause to evacuate prisons...big concrete buildings are among the safest places to be during a hurricane. Further, with the projected path of the storm, it isn't as though there is really any place to go that is out of the projected path.

Most agencies have each unit equipped with generators that should be sufficient to provide electrical power. Some also have their own water supply.

Another consideration is that once a storm makes landfall, there is no certainty as to what it might do, as we learned yet again with Harvey. Had TDCJ evacuated to the East, they would have had very serious issues given how the storm moved (to the extent a stall is moving).

But, yes, plans exist in every agency's executive level for storm-related movement.
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Thank you.... my main concern was loss of power and water supply. Good to know!!
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This looks like a monster. I've been following the weather because work has put us on eminent weather alert, but my concerns are how prisons in SC and along the southeast coast will manage this one.

Sadly the alerts for weather watches aren't the same for them unless it becomes a crisis situation.

I pray for all who have endured Irma's wrath yesterday and all who wait with bated breath.
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This storm sounds REALLY BAD.
I know this sounds terrible but I hope it lessens by the time it hits the mainland US.
I only read the headlines this morning and it still sounds like its still a Cat 5.

scratch that. Its been downgraded to a 4.
But still a powerful storm.
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And it looks like it's going right over my island Turks & Caicos. I hope the appartment will survive... good grief...
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I'm worried I still have lots of people in Florida, glad I'm not there. I hope everyone is safe.
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Here are links to 2 different stories of what happens to SO during disasters. This is inhumane & we have better plans in place for the animals at our shelters than they have for SO who are no longer incarcerated. In fact, it seems the attitude is that they wouldn't be sad if the storm carried all SO to another place.. away from them.

The 1st link is an actual account of what happened in TX during Hurricane Harvey. The 2nd link is a commentary by a filmmaker about the bias in Florida against people with the SO label. Of special interest is the list of allowed criminal convictions that people can have & still be able to find shelter. Here are what he lists as acceptable:
  1. Spousal abusers
  2. Neo-Nazi groups
  3. Arsonists
  4. Thieves
  5. Drug addicts/distributors
  6. Animal abusers
  7. Murderers
  8. Prostitutes
  9. Terrorists
  10. Stalkers
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https://narsol.org/2017/09/reasonabl...orrific-storm/
https://www.metamorafilms.org/2017/0...urricane-irma/
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I have no words. None at least I can post here for this stupidity.

Pretty much in that order.
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At the risk of showing my ignorance, how is a registered SO or predator allowed back in a home with children...or even to be a single parent of children?
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At the risk of showing my ignorance, how is a registered SO or predator allowed back in a home with children...or even to be a single parent of children?
SO restrictions vary wildly by state, offense, supervision requirements specific to that person or a POs fancy.
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All visitation for the weekend in the state of Florida is cancelled.
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It's SO hard to get information about the inmates from Georgia who have been evacuated. Tried the info line at GDOC and the highlight was when the lady told me as soon as he was assigned a bed, I'd be notified. Really? They have 1,500 beds laying open for just this event? During matthew the dayroom floor of other prisons was the bed, and I am fine with that. Having a bed is the least of my worries. As the storm keeps changing paths, I just want to know he is safe...grr
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Update: I heard from him. He's at Central in Macon, Ga! Safe, C.O's are friendly, food is good, sleeping in the gym. There's a long line to use the phone, but it was the same system as Coastal. So thankful I answered in time! Now I can track when the storm hits where he is. Life is good, again!I feel SO relieved! We made our home preparations for when it hits here (supposed to only be a high winds storm by that time). Thank you to the two ladies who sent me supportive pms...
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Hello, it seems not all the south Florida facilities were evacuated... What's happen in case of flood... I'm wondering... With no more electricity... Does the inmates will be stucked ? locked in ???
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The prisons are built pretty well. They have their own water and electric with back up generators. Yes if they flood they can have problems, but really they are built with precautions in place. Frankly prisoners are safer then people in the shelters and at home.
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Thank you for reassuring me Xolady that's what I thought but... I know such problem already occured during Katarina at New Orleans http://www.nbcnews.com/id/14290778/n.../#.WbWsxzVpyM8 I can just hope it won't happen... But it's stressing not knowing more about the prisons that kept the inmates...
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Just praying Florida prisons and organization is better...
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Well I'm sitting here watching the awful weather destroy so much beautiful land. I'm so worried as most of my family is still in Florida and no where is safe. I am lucky to be out of a direct hit but am in tears for all who are being impacted by this truly devastating nightmare. I lost touch with my best friend two hours ago, she lives in wpb she sounded good said it was suddenly getting bad and then we got cut off. Praying for all and really thats all we can do.
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Thank you for reassuring me Xolady that's what I thought but... I know such problem already occured during Katarina at New Orleans http://www.nbcnews.com/id/14290778/n.../#.WbWsxzVpyM8 I can just hope it won't happen... But it's stressing not knowing more about the prisons that kept the inmates...
New Orleans had a combination of events that will NEVER be recreated elsewhere, not the least of which is being in the bottom of a huge bowl and then having pumps fail that keep water OUT of that bowl and THEN having levees that were breached. Add in mismanagement at just about EVERY level of bureaucracy and it was a very unique situation...

Contrast that with a substantial rain event in Houston that dropped FAR more rain in a shorter period of time. Much of Houston is back to normal operations despite being less than two weeks removed from the skies dropping four and a half feet of water on a city not far above sea level...
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I hear ya! Florida is such a great state - so much natural beauty of all sorts and it is all being laid flat.

And just think? WPB isn't even near the eye!

I read a few hours ago Kenny Chesney's house in St. Johns is flattened and it was built with hurricanes in mind. He's sending supplies including water and dog food.

I was in a gale at sea and thought I was dead and this makes a gales seem like a balmy breeze.

I dread seeing things in the morning.

I am having bouts of survivor guilt; I know it is pointless, but had Mother Nature turned east rather than west it would be me huddled in the hall way.

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I live in an old wooded neighborhood with a above ground power lines in Atlanta, so I'm just waiting for the power to go out tomorrow night for some period of time. This is a trivial concern compared to those further south in Florida. My grandmother outside of Tallahassee has decided to ride this one out in her home. She has a generator and is pretty prepared, but I'm concerned.

My loved one at Arrendale is just hunkered down in her dorm, but I have a feeling that they will pull her out to go back to her work detail when it's clear the main body of the storm is going to the west of where they are.
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Well I'm sitting here watching the awful weather destroy so much beautiful land. I'm so worried as most of my family is still in Florida and no where is safe. I am lucky to be out of a direct hit but am in tears for all who are being impacted by this truly devastating nightmare. I lost touch with my best friend two hours ago, she lives in wpb she sounded good said it was suddenly getting bad and then we got cut off. Praying for all and really thats all we can do.
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Thank you for reassuring me K6770... It does... Hard to feel good when you are so far from the events and that you can't call to know.... That's why it's good having PTO for that...
Praying for all people that had to live this nightmare...
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Well I had great news so far 1/2 of my family is safe. Homes are intact no water no electric. Some have been able to TEXT!!! I can actually breath a huge sigh of relief. The one thing I do know is my friends and family have been through some bad storms and always have been ok even when some lost homes we had enough friends to pull together. My bestie she said her husband was like what's with all these frozen water bottles?? She said H said so you can actually have a cold beer after you clear the drive way!!!LOL She has huge pine trees and always loses some in bad storms.
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