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Old 05-30-2014, 03:24 AM
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I'm about to sign my plea for 2.5-5 years for 5 lbs of pot in arizona...I wonder if in ten years I'll look back and laugh at the government for things like this.
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My son did 17+ and we never laughed. ..
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Am inclined to say 'not likely.' Five pounds of pot is NOT a personal consumption bust. And even in those States that have 'legalized' it, individuals still cannot sell it and few persons are going to be in a position to open their own licensed dispensary...

It really will be no different than the person who collects taxes on diesel fuel but fails to remit them...the diesel is certainly legal, the distribution of it might even be legit, but there are still components of the otherwise-legal action that run afoul of State (and occasionally even federal) law. And yes, I have seen people in Texas prison for the failure to remit diesel fuel tax...
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Old 06-03-2014, 06:29 PM
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Bro did 8 years fed time for a bit more than 50 lbs. It's not a joke. While someday pot may be legalized, nobody's going to be laughing about doing time for drug running, your felony will still be on your record, and you will still have that conspicuous absence on your resume. Further, getting into Canada and other countries will be difficult, getting a license in a profession will still be difficult, and even coaching your kid's ball team will be difficult. The fact of the matter is is that it's an illegal offense that will cast doubt on your character for years to come, even after the harsh realities of prison fade into your past. 5 lbs is not 50+, but as EnTex said, it's not personal use, and most certainly not a political statement. You're not a Tommy Chong in all of this, and you won't be treated in the rest of your life as a Tommy Chong.

Sorry, but nobody's going to laugh.
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I think OP realizes that their life is going to change dramatically and was just attempting to lighten the mood. 5lbs is questionable but at the same time I do believe the consequences for weed are really harsh.

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Old 06-06-2014, 08:21 PM
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No, I get the point - equating running pot to some of the major political movements of the past wherein people did federal time. The whole reason we have women's prisons is because of the Women's Suffrage Movement, and guaranteed those women came out of prison, back to their lives, able to laugh and to have a collegial attitude about their incarceration. Same with those who did time for demonstrations during Vietnam - a bust for peace activism had a ton of cache in many careers and didn't stop somebody from becoming a doctor, lawyer, teacher, or bail bondsman. The analogy with Prohibition era busts for alcohol is a bit misleading - the vast majority of those who did time were heavily into Italian gangs at the time that the Mafia was king. While those who did time for alcohol busts got some cache among their peers prior to RICO and the incentive to rat, there wasn't the same cache among regular citizens and there would still be long ranging problems for those who were outside the mob, weren't killed by the mob, and did time for running booze.

Running pot is just a crime like any other crime. While the political climate on the subject is changing, it's still a federal offense and there really isn't the feeling attached to 5 lbs of weed as there was for those who celebrated the 19th Amendment or those convicted of draft dodging during Vietnam. Further, because it's a drug crime, it carries even more severe repercussions that make it no laughing matter even if the US eventually legalizes pot, opting for sin tax revenue over the costs of incarceration.
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I'm in a similar situation as you. I'm getting ready to do 22 months for delivery of marijuana in a school zone.
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Old 12-17-2014, 06:22 AM
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I'm sure your perspective will be different in ten years.While your "doing time", try to work on your post detention plan for the future.
I hope yiu have friends and family that will stick with you through your incarceration.
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I used to do that. Either justify the crime I was committing or view it as breaking a stupid law. That is exactly the reason I went to prison 5 separate times, have a dozen felonies on my record, and spent over two decades total behind bars. Not taking the laws of society seriously.

If pot becomes legal to the point where it is not regulated, that does not make breaking the law something you should look back on and laugh about. Nobody has to agree with a law, nobody has to support a law, but everyone is expected to obey the law. What crime you are guilty of is incidental, it is the breaking of the law which reveals a person's character. You don't break laws in order to protest them.

I understand your levity, but I don't really agree with it. Not on a serious note.
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This is so ironic! A FBI agent actually told us one day we'd look back on our arrest and laugh. I told him then that would never - I was right.

That one arrest has haunted us. It never goes away, it's always there. Forever.
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Iíve found that looking back at the time I spent inside never gives rise to laughter. It gives rise to a number of different types of feelings and reactions, but laughter is never one of them. I look at the time I spent inside as time spent in a kind of living death in a living hell on Earth. Iím in another kind of living death (which isnít anywhere near as bad) right now, since Iím still on Parole. I strongly doubt Iíll ever look back at any phase of this whole trip and laugh.
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If a portion of the FBI agent's training included a week or two of incarceration (they do get sprayed with pepper spray, so why not), they would understand that there is absolutely nothing "funny" about any of it.
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I doubt their training involves time in sub standard county jails. Some of the jails made the FMC seem like a high end resort.

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I think most of us have laughed at how stupid we were not the consequences of our stupidity. I've never done prison. But county was more then enough to change my dumb ass to think before I act. By the way County Jail was a horrifying experience in my opinion.
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5 years for weed, good grief!!!!!
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5 years for weed, good grief!!!!!
Sure, if you see it as "just" weed but this was 5 pounds with the intent to distribute. It isn't someone smoking a joint in their living room while watching TV. The fact is that it is against the law in most places. People get DUI's for being "just" over the limit and that could be 2 drinks. Doesn't sound like much but the punishment for a first DUI is nothing to laugh about. I think this is more about knowing what the punishment is for doing something and doing it anyway. Anyone in possession of 5 pounds of weed knows that it isn't just a misdemeanor. They know they consequences, or they should have.
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5 years for weed, good grief!!!!!
While every case is different, that isn't typically a sentence for a dime bag. I routinely see cases at the State level that involve upwards of 2000 pounds of pot. If someone is moving THAT amount, it clearly is NOT personal consumption...and I am curious what sentence you believe is reasonable for trafficking a substance that is still illegal in many jurisdictions.
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A loved one of mine was sentence to 3-4 years and got out in less than a year (good time, credit for volunteer work and then paroled). Yes we did laugh about it. Both during the time of incarceration and after they were released. Our survival tactic in the midst of bad times is to always have something to be able to laugh about. Whether is was a story about a cellmate or the ridiculousness of the system, we were able to always find something that made us smile.

My loved one was released, got out, returned home and is doing great, running their won business. Going to jail for weed is ridiculous and idiotic. Here in Louisiana the state is looking for reasons to put people in jail and keep them there (since they have private prisons to fill.

It wasn't always easy for them while they were in but I was in constant contact and always sent them newsletters full of stuff to laugh about which they would share with others. Keep your spirits up. This too shall pass. Just do your time and get the heck out and don't look back.

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Going to jail for weed is ridiculous and idiotic. Here in Louisiana the state is looking for reasons to put people in jail and keep them there (since they have private prisons to fill.
Arresting someone for committing a felony is hardly 'ridiculous and idiotic' nor is it 'looking for reasons to put people in jail.'

Staying out of jail and prison is not difficult...it isn't THAT difficult to follow the law in the jurisdiction. And, as noted, those going into custody on pot charges are rarely those holding personal consumption weight. Instead, they tend to be those actively involved in trafficking.
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It should be just as legal as Alcohol throughout the United States. Period. My opinion. And I could sit here and debate it all night, But it's pointless. It is what it is.

OP, sorry your headed to prison over weed. Looks like they could save the bed's for Meth, Cocaine, opiates, "trafficker's". Good luck to you.
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Even if it was legal throughout the United States, distribution would still not be legal.
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Personal use is now legal in a number of states. That had a similar impact to what happened when the bop outlawed tobacco, a massive price hike. Even so, it might make sense to move somewhere where it is legal in order to avoid prison for personal consumption.
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5lbs is personal use?
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5 years for weed, good grief!!!!!
Redgrl is in UK, and I am in Ireland and my reaction was the same as hers. The laws in the US are really REALLY harsh compared to ours.
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Arresting someone for committing a felony is hardly 'ridiculous and idiotic' nor is it 'looking for reasons to put people in jail.'

Staying out of jail and prison is not difficult...it isn't THAT difficult to follow the law in the jurisdiction. And, as noted, those going into custody on pot charges are rarely those holding personal consumption weight. Instead, they tend to be those actively involved in trafficking.
While Colorado and Washington have de-criminalized recreational use of marijuana and twenty states allow use for medical purposes, a Louisiana man was sentenced to twenty years in prison in New Orleans criminal court for possessing 15 grams, .529 of an ounce, of marijuana.

In Louisiana, a person can get up to six months in jail for first marijuana conviction, up to five years in prison for the second conviction and up to twenty years in prison for the third. In fact, the Louisiana Supreme Court recently overturned a sentence of five years as too lenient for a fourth possession of marijuana and ordered the person sentenced to at least 13 years.

http://dissidentvoice.org/2013/09/ha...ars-in-prison/
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