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Old 02-29-2004, 03:16 PM
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Default The trip to federal prison - from court to your new bed (Flying Con-Air)

This post is in response to Prisongirl's question in this thread:
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This post is about what you can expect if you are taken into custody after sentencing in the U.S. Federal System. It assumes that you are not self-surrendering and covers where you will be staying, how you will get there and the designation process while in custody. This isn’t a guarantee that it is how your “trip” will occur, but it is what happens to most people.


From court you will be taken back into a "hold-over" or "trial cell" in the federal building. How long you will have to wait there depends on what time your court appearence is set for but I don't recall ever hearing of anyone spending the night in one of these.

At the end of the day, once everyone that is there has finished with court, the Marshal's will chain you all up for transport. What this means is you will be shackled at your ankles with leg-cuffs that will let you sort-of walk, but never run. You will have leather (usually) or a chain belt around your waist that your handcuffs will hook though, making it so that your hands don't get far from your waist. Personally, I like this MUCH more than being handcuffed from behind. I don't like being handcuffed at all but the point is that you will be somewhat comfortable. The U.S. Marshal's never just cuff you in front and leave your legs free. They have a serious protocol that they stick to.

Once everyone is chained up, they will lead you down to a van or bus. If it is only one or two of you then you may ride in a car. That depends on the number of people and how much business the feds are doing in your district.

Where will you go? It depends on if there is a (FDC) Federal Detention Center in your city. This may also be called a (MDC) Metropolitan Detention Center or something else similarly federal in name. However, in many federal districts, they don't do enough "business" to have a dedicated federal detention center so they contract space with local county jails. In most cases, the accommodations in these SUCK. I spent a little over 2 months in a federal contract facility in Montgomery Co., Texas and it was not a good situation. We were treated worse than the regular country prisoners. No trusty jobs were available to fed prisoners.. Visits were 15 minutes through a Plexiglas window, etc. In compare to federal detention centers, the treatment was crap! Fortunately for us, the new Houston FDC was opened and I believe I was the 14th prisoner to walk in there. It was heaven compared to the Montgomery County dungeon.

So, you could end up in a FDC/MDC after sentencing if they have one in your area or you could end up in a county jail that is contacted for prisoners. It shouldn’t be too hard to figure this out if you want to know. Call the federal courthouse where you were sentenced and ask them were federal prisoners are housed, and if they have a federal detention center or a contract facility with the county.

So, you end up at one place or another. Plan on being there from a day to a month.. Probably closer to 2 weeks max. while they purchase your tickets.

Unless something has changed that I am not aware of, you will be going to Oklahoma City for 2 weeks to a month following your stay at whichever detention center. Unless you are fairly close to Ok. City, you can plan on flying Con-Air. I'll consider you are not close to Oklahoma City and tell you about Con-Air.

Con-Air is not just a movie; it is a true federal transport. Of course, they don't fly old military cargo carriers, but they are almost as bad, or at least they feel like it!

When you get transported via "Con-Air", you know you are in some serious crap. Before it is the standard jail and transport BS. When you pull up on this plane you know you are dealing with the U.S. "justice" system and how serious they are about it.

There is a ring of guards surrounding the airplane with assault shotguns and automatic rifles. You will never see one of these people smile. They are serious as hell and I suspect very ready to shoot at a seconds notice and with little provocation. I have never heard of a Con-Air takeover by anyone but they act as if they are guarding the President of the U.S. himself. Actually, when you see the president get on his plane, he and the plane do not look like they are completely surrounded by storm-troopers. Con-Air does and being the prisoner and seeing all of this was the first true sign of the feds for me and how serious they are about security and not losing a prisoner. It doesn't matter if you are going to be with them for 4 months or 50 years, they treat everyone the same. Not necessarily bad but just very serious.

Before you get on the plane they shake you down good. They make you shake out your hair, open your mouth, etc. Everything short of a cavity check, though some people may get that, though it isn’t the norm, nor is it done on the airport tarmac.

One at a time you walk up the rear of the planes stairs, into the tail of the airplane.

Before I go any further, I should mention that there are a number of different planes that the U.S. Marshal’s Service uses. The one that I rode on was an OLD Boeing 727 that had paisley designs from what I would guess is the 1960’s inside. These planes are not the nice shining new and well maintained jets you see at the airport. I have seen three of them and they were either white or grey with a thin red or blue stripe down the plane. You would probably think they were a cargo or mail plane if you saw one. Inside and out you will see duct or metal tape. Maintenance, especially aesthetic is not that good. They also have single and twin engine planes, and a few LearJets. I’ve heard that most all of these have been seized. I may try to do a report on “Con-Air” sometime in the future but for this article, I think I have covered it enough. Bottom line; don’t think you are going to get a Business-First ticket.. There are none.

The female prisoners are generally kept way forward in the plane and away from the men. Everyone is usually in a foul mood from being on a plane all day long, cuffed and shackled. It’s not a fun ride and to be honest, though I love to fly, I was a big nervous about being locked down in a plane such as this..

Depending on where you are being picked up from and what time, you may only be on the plane for an hour or so or you may be on it 12 or more hours. Either way, you are ready to get off when you land in Oklahoma City! You won’t be making another road trip because the feds have a terminal there at the airport for the transit center! Oklahoma City is the home of Con-Air so why not keep it simple for them.

The transit center is basically a large Federal Detention Center where they keep most people while figuring out where they are going to place you. I personally have never been there but from all the people I did time with, along with someone close to me, the time you will stay there is from 1 to 4 weeks while they get your paperwork finished and find you an open bed, hopefully at the institution closest to your family.

I’m not for sure, but I don’t think you can purchase commissary there. Con-Air does not take anything of yours, so commissary would be a pain anyways. You are allowed to make phone calls, write and receive letters, etc. There are TV’s to watch and recreation areas, if you want to call them that.. Mostly exercise bikes. You can smoke too.

Once you get your designation, you are back on a reverse trip. You probably will fly Con-Air back out unless the prison you are going to stay at is close to Oklahoma City. They will take you to the closest point to the prison that they can land and then the Marshals will drive you the rest of the way.

When you get to the prison, you may have to wait in Segregation a few days if a bed isn’t immediately open. You will go through R&D (Receiving and Discharge) and get a minor physical. They will take blood. You then will get screened, usually by your unit team, if they are not too lazy to show up. (Mine didn’t.. only one person) They will ask about co-defendants if you have them, gang affiliations, etc.. etc.. Then, after they run you through the intake process, they will send you to a unit. They will assign you a room and you get to meet your new cellie or cellies, depending on how you are going to be housed.

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Very accurate David. I was on seven seporate con air flights, including the Southern route (through AZ) and Nothern Route (through ID). Could not believe the security. At one time on the way to the Pueblo airport (Colorado), one of my leg iron links got caught and wedged in a crack, getting on the buss. Several gaurds tried to pull it loose, but they finally determined they would need to remove one leg iron to free it. I was imediately surrounded by four gaurds each with Mossberg shotguns pointed directly at me. He had the inmates clear an area around me, and told me he was now going to take one leg iron off, and that if I made any sudden moves, they would shoot me.

Talk about security. I could not believe the airports. Idaho was probably the scariest looking. Most places had shotguns, they had M16's. I did want to add, that if anyone knows of someone waiting for transport, tell them that before they get on the plane, USE THE BATHROOM (while in holding), and don't drink too much of the liquids on the plane, because using the restroom on the plane is no fun. They do not remove your cuffs (or black box, if you get one) for any reason. Your cuffs are secured to the front of your bellychain. You must eat that way, and use the restroom that way as well. When you use the restroom, they do not close the door, but will help you pull your clothes down/up, if they are nice. It is a very degrading experience. It happened my first flight, and all the others, I drank no fluids , and ate very little, until I got where I was going.

Anyway, that was a very thurough interpertation of what I experienced as well. Good job David.

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One of my trips on Conair was from Larado TX to Milam MI to McDill AFB to Miami FL to Atlanta GA. It was a long day to be chained up.
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Thanks Robert.
I forgot to mention the bathroom and "meal" accomodations while in flight. Your right on the money, you DON'T want to use the restroom. I unfortunately decided I needed to check it out (I did have to go) and it is hard to 'leak' with your head mashed up on the bulkhead all shackled up.. I'll never forget that..

Eating isn't much fun either.. They give you those little.. what are they called..? the crackers with fillings.. and the juice does go right to your blatter and fast.

Robert or Off-Paper, if you have anything else to add to this or about the feds, please do so.. I know I left out a lot of details and would be glad for you all or any other ex-feds to fill them in.

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David,

On one trip, I was about the only non La Eme on the flight. These were some hard dudes and the BOP had decided to scatter them far and wide, so it was about a twelve hour flight with many, many, stops.

The 'stewardesses', US Marshalls who all looked like they just heard about Jody at their house, passed out boxed lunches. Inside the white cardboard box was two baloney sandwiches, a pack of peanutbutter crackers, and an apple. This was haute cuisine compare to what I was fed at the county jail. Within minutes we were quietly swapping food (no talking permitted, but the Marshalls were cool and let us help the blackboxed men, sitting on the aisles, with their food) and I was learning the Spanish words for sandwich, peanutbutter crackers, and apples.

Another point, if you know US geography, you may be able to tell where the plane is going and where you have landed. The Boeing 727 averages about 400 MPH. Over the midwest, where there are many 1 mile squares (sections) you can fine tune your groundspeed by picking a point on the wing and count how many sections pass that point in ten or fifteen seconds - one thousand one, one thousand two, etc.and then do the math. If you can see airports on the ground, keep in mind small ones have runways about a mile long and big airports have runways about two miles long - remember, these are rough numbers, but better than nothing) You can guess the general direction by the sun. Get time checks by looking at the Marshall's watches when they walk by - and they are always walking by. You will have plenty of time to do this as you won't be distracted by the 'stewardesses' offering constant coffee,beverage, or snack service and you won't be reading boring articles in the Conair inflight magazine.

Seriously, there is something very scary about being chained hand, foot, and waist, and being on an airplane. If something happens, it would be very easy to be very dead. And except for your family and real friends, nobody will give a damn.

Lastly, I wonder where they get the pilots for these airplanes? The phrase 'check ride' must be foreign to them. The approaches and landings they shot would not get most of them a job in the cockpit of any legitimate airline.
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I Flew Con-Air twice. From the Midwest to the East Coast and back. The most memorable moment was when they got us out of the bus and ready to load us up in the plane. It was in the middle of the winter, we wore short sleeve, orange shirts. They had us stand outside for 25 minutes while checking our mouths and back of our ears. I remember being cold to the bone. And surrounded by armed guards who looked for ready to shot. It made me want to shiver even more.
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And the actual arrival in OK FTC. Yikes. There is an endless corridor that prisoners go through, feels like a descent into the belly of the beast. It's a slow walk (belly chained and leg irons) single file and you come to a halt after 15 minutes of a descent. A platform sits at the entrance of the prison. Each prisoner gets up on the platform and has the restrains removed. The sound of the chains, metal and keys is enough to chill your blood. Then processing. Naked, body cavities searched, PPD shots, medical history (as if they don't know it already) and more holding cells. Eventually, we were led into the unit. It's a triangular set up. Seg is to the right, the rest just cells. It's gray, cement, cold, sterile and no natural light comes in there. There is nothing to do. The books that are available are cheap thrill romance, true crime and suspense dime a dozen type of books. The only thing that can keep one sane is exercise. I spend in total 2 and a half months in OK. Half of that time in lock down. It comes close to madness.Peace.
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If you are female on the flight, don't drink anything! Going to bathroom is difficult, yes, but you also have to walk through the area where the men sit. I felt like I was running the gauntlet!! Or a piece of meat about to be devoured! It was very uncomfortable!!
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Damn...talk about FLASHBACKS...you all really know what your talking about!
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do all federal prisoners men and women have to go to ok. i need to know my niece and nephew are being sentanced soon.
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Some federal inmates are allowed to self surrender. Otherwise, I do believe everyone goes through Oklahoma.
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I've been designated FTC-OKC, self surrender 8/11/04. I am from OKC so I'm home. I understand there is a minimum camp next to the transfer center(not sure if I'll be there or moved somewhere else)...But, I haven't been able to find anything on this camp...other than there's a camp. HELP!!!
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My dad is in county jail awaiting sentencing in FL, he was told that he could be held in the county jail until designated or he would go to a federal holding in Tallahassee until designation.. this is the first I've heard of Conair and going through OK. Was the information my dad given wrong? I want to tell him if he may have to fly out to another state before coming back to Florida for his 'final spot'...


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I've been designated FTC-OKC, self surrender 8/11/04. I am from OKC so I'm home. I understand there is a minimum camp next to the transfer center(not sure if I'll be there or moved somewhere else)...But, I haven't been able to find anything on this camp...other than there's a camp. HELP!!!
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If he is in Florida already chances are he will be transported by van to his designation.
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My friend lives in Vermont, will they be flown to OK. Is there a place back near Vermont to be sent to after OK?
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Hey Fed Ex I'm new to all this and my husband is the the Miami FDC now for 3 months and sentencing is on 12/28. We live in Leesburg VA, now when they start to transfer him up north will what you say below also apply to him? He has heard horror stories about being put in the "hole" for a couple of days while in transfer?
I'm freaked out about the whole thing and want to know more. When will he be able to tell me where he is going? or when wil he be ableto call home after everything?



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This post is in response to Prisongirl's question in this thread:
http://www.prisontalk.com/forums/sho...167#post450167

This post is about what you can expect if you are taken into custody after sentencing in the U.S. Federal System. It assumes that you are not self-surrendering and covers where you will be staying, how you will get there and the designation process while in custody. This isnít a guarantee that it is how your ďtripĒ will occur, but it is what happens to most people.


From court you will be taken back into a "hold-over" or "trial cell" in the federal building. How long you will have to wait there depends on what time your trial is but I don't recall ever hearing of anyone spending the night in one of these.

At the end of the day, once everyone that is there has finished with court, the Marshal's will chain you all up for transport. What this means is you will be shackled at your ankles with leg-cuffs that will let you sort-of walk, but never run. You will have leather (usually) or a chain belt around your waist that your handcuffs will hook though, making it so that your hands don't get far from your waist. Personally, I like this MUCH more than being handcuffed from behind. I don't like being handcuffed at all but the point is that you will be somewhat comfortable. The U.S. Marshal's never just cuff you in front and leave your legs free. They have a serious protocol that they stick to.

Once everyone is chained up, they will lead you down to a van or bus. If it is only one or two of you then you may ride in a car. That depends on the number of people and how much business the feds are doing in your district.

Where will you go? It depends on if there is a (FDC) Federal Detention Center in your city. This may also be called a (MDC) Metropolitan Detention Center or something else similarly federal in name. However, in many federal districts, they don't do enough "business" to have a dedicated federal detention center so they contract space with local county jails. In most cases, the accommodations in these SUCK. I spent a little over 2 months in a federal contract facility in Montgomery Co., Texas and it was not a good situation. We were treated worse than the regular country prisoners. No trusty jobs were available to fed prisoners.. Visits were 15 minutes through a Plexiglas window, etc. In compare to federal detention centers, the treatment was crap! Fortunately for us, the new Houston FDC was opened and I believe I was the 14th prisoner to walk in there. It was heaven compared to the Montgomery County dungeon.

So, you could end up in a FDC/MDC after sentencing if they have one in your area or you could end up in a county jail that is contacted for prisoners. It shouldnít be too hard to figure this out if you want to know. Call the federal courthouse where you were sentenced and ask them were federal prisoners are housed, and if they have a federal detention center or a contract facility with the county.

So, you end up at one place or another. Plan on being there from a day to a month.. Probably closer to 2 weeks max. while they purchase your tickets.

Unless something has changed that I am not aware of, you will be going to Oklahoma City for 2 weeks to a month following your stay at whichever detention center. Unless you are fairly close to Ok. City, you can plan on flying Con-Air. I'll consider you are not close to Oklahoma City and tell you about Con-Air.

Con-Air is not just a movie; it is a true federal transport. Of course, they don't fly old military cargo carriers, but they are almost as bad, or at least they feel like it!

When you get transported via "Con-Air", you know you are in some serious crap. Before it is the standard jail and transport BS. When you pull up on this plane you know you are dealing with the U.S. "justice" system and how serious they are about it.

There is a ring of guards surrounding the airplane with assault shotguns and automatic rifles. You will never see one of these people smile. They are serious as hell and I suspect very ready to shoot at a seconds notice and with little provocation. I have never heard of a Con-Air takeover by anyone but they act as if they are guarding the President of the U.S. himself. Actually, when you see the president get on his plane, he and the plane do not look like they are completely surrounded by storm-troopers. Con-Air does and being the prisoner and seeing all of this was the first true sign of the feds for me and how serious they are about security and not losing a prisoner. It doesn't matter if you are going to be with them for 4 months or 50 years, they treat everyone the same. Not necessarily bad but just very serious.

Before you get on the plane they shake you down good. They make you shake out your hair, open your mouth, etc. Everything short of a cavity check, though some people may get that, though it isnít the norm, nor is it done on the airport tarmac.

One at a time you walk up the rear of the planes stairs, into the tail of the airplane.

Before I go any further, I should mention that there are a number of different planes that the U.S. Marshalís Service uses. The one that I rode on was an OLD Boeing 727 that had paisley designs from what I would guess is the 1960ís inside. These planes are not the nice shining new and well maintained jets you see at the airport. I have seen three of them and they were either white or grey with a thin red or blue stripe down the plane. You would probably think they were a cargo or mail plane if you saw one. Inside and out you will see duct or metal tape. Maintenance, especially aesthetic is not that good. They also have single and twin engine planes, and a few LearJets. Iíve heard that most all of these have been seized. I may try to do a report on ďCon-AirĒ sometime in the future but for this article, I think I have covered it enough. Bottom line; donít think you are going to get a Business-First ticket.. There are none.

The female prisoners are generally kept way forward in the plane and away from the men. Everyone is usually in a foul mood from being on a plane all day long, cuffed and shackled. Itís not a fun ride and to be honest, though I love to fly, I was a big nervous about being locked down in a plane such as this..

Depending on where you are being picked up from and what time, you may only be on the plane for an hour or so or you may be on it 12 or more hours. Either way, you are ready to get off when you land in Oklahoma City! You wonít be making another road trip because the feds have a terminal there at the airport for the transit center! Oklahoma City is the home of Con-Air so why not keep it simple for them.

The transit center is basically a large Federal Detention Center where they keep most people while figuring out where they are going to place you. I personally have never been there but from all the people I did time with, along with someone close to me, the time you will stay there is from 1 to 4 weeks while they get your paperwork finished and find you an open bed, hopefully at the institution closest to your family.

Iím not for sure, but I donít think you can purchase commissary there. Con-Air does not take anything of yours, so commissary would be a pain anyways. You are allowed to make phone calls, write and receive letters, etc. There are TVís to watch and recreation areas, if you want to call them that.. Mostly exercise bikes. You can smoke too.

Once you get your designation, you are back on a reverse trip. You probably will fly Con-Air back out unless the prison you are going to stay at is close to Oklahoma City. They will take you to the closest point to the prison that they can land and then the Marshals will drive you the rest of the way.

When you get to the prison, you may have to wait in Segregation a few days if a bed isnít immediately open. You will go through R&D (Receiving and Discharge) and get a minor physical. They will take blood. You then will get screened, usually by your unit team, if they are not too lazy to show up. (Mine didnít.. only one person) They will ask about co-defendants if you have them, gang affiliations, etc.. etc.. Then, after they run you through the intake process, they will send you to a unit. They will assign you a room and you get to meet your new cellie or cellies, depending on how you are going to be housed.

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My short answer to Robert and David's run-down of Con-Air is, well, well-done!
To elaborate on a couple of points:
First, none of the planes are seized. This is one of those urban legends. They are all contract/charter planes supplied by the lowest bidder, and flown by pilots that blow the lowest numbers on the Breathalyzer. The facility is operated by the BOP, but your transport is done via the U.S. Marshalls. They have a multitude of planes in their inventory (I was transported one-way from Kentucky to OKC-FTC once in a Sabre, often confused with a Lear). I have been in several of their aircraft, and they DO NOT inspire confidence.

Second, upon arrival, the plane taxis to the gate, and spills its contents (you) onto the jetway (just like a real airport) and you walk down the ramp into the prison. You'll be herded into a couple of the larger holding cells (one toilet, thank you very much) and given some forms and a golf pencil with which to fill them out. The rest of the processing is as the others described.

Third, FYI, look out your window as you taxi toward the facility. If you see another plane similar to the one you are in, get ready to wait an extra hour or so. If you get there before the other plane, figure about four hours to make it to a cell.

Fourth, you are going to one of three places. To population, SHU, or to suicide watch because you told them something stupid. To begin with suicide watch, I participated in the "Companion Watch" program at the FTC (I was cadre there, for those who don't know me) and I can tell you, it ain't nothin' nice. If they think you're going to whack yourself, you will NOT be shipped until the powers that be decide you've become stable. Further, you will be sitting buck-nekkid in the coldest cell down in medical with no sheets, eating food with your fingers. Yes, that means beans and cole-slaw, too. If you don't know if you're going to SHU, look down. If you are one of the few wearing a black box, odds are, you're going to SHU. If you've ever had an escape on your record, and it's recent, you're going to SHU. If you said something retarded to one of the Marshall's, it's an even money bet. If you've been designated there, you're going to SHU, and will be there four to ten days. Longer, perhaps, if you arrive during some holiday. Most will be going to population. Trust me, this is where you want to be. It's the Sleepy Hollow of all prison destinations. It is boring beyond belief for a first-timer, but I've said it before, and I'll say it again, boring is good. Would you rather be in an exciting prison? It's still fairly new, clean for the most part, and hey, they have cable. There are at least four TV's in each POD dedicated to a different station. They are all two-man cells with a (get this, for you guys coming from county) a real (not stainless) toilet! Yes! And a real sink that when you turn on the water, it stays on! Alas, you can't adjust the temperature in the shower, but this isn't a perfect world.

Fifth, I left there not too long ago, and you could still smoke. They had already posted a memo that smoking would be banned after the first of the year, even for cadre. You cannot buy commissary there unless you are cadre. You can sign up to be a dorm orderly, and if you make it by being there long enough, they have a limited store list that you may purchase from. Mostly cookies and popcorn.
Sixth, you are quite safe there. There are cards and some board games, but you can just get a book and go back to your cell and shut the door. You will probably have a roomie, but he's going to be asleep or doing the same thing you are. If you have a problem with your new cellie, find someone else to room with, and ask the guard to move you. At the FTC it's pretty simple, because all they have to do is switch your ID card from one cell to another. Most of the guards there are O.K., and I never heard of a guard refusing a cell swap unless they were full. They DO NOT want any conflicts. The guards there are laid-back, and you'll probably see at least one asleep during his/her shift.

Last, when the FTC first opened, it had the best food in the BOP, and quite a bit of it. That has changed. For those of you coming from a county jail, it will probably seem gourmet, but it has gone downhill pretty fast. It is slightly better for cadre, but not much. The upside is they still serve you two trays at lunch and dinner. A hot tray and a cold tray. Saturday and Sunday is sort of a continental breakfast, then brunch--eggs, fried potatoes, maybe biscuits and gravy Saturday, pancakes or waffles Sunday.

One final message to my fellow Okies...If you are from Oklahoma, have the judge request El Reno. It will do more good than no request at all. Point being, you do not want to do your time as cadre in the FTC. There is no yard, no real rec, no education, no free arts/crafts, etc. Wherever you can get to is going to be better. As a holdover, it ain't too bad. Hope this helps someone out there.
Kevin
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What about when you are released in another state (other then you live in)? Do they fly you back the same way? Or do you just get released there and find your own way home?
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What about when you are released in another state (other then you live in)? Do they fly you back the same way? Or do you just get released there and find your own way home?
No, they'll give you a bus ticket.
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Kevin, thanks for the info!!

One question- do you rememebr the inmate "telephone?"
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A friend of mine was recently in Tampa, and then sent to Tallahassee until they can get him into Coleman.
Someone please help me. My boyfriend is about to be sentenced on March 18th. Federal - Charge: growing over 100, but not more than 200 marijuana plants. His points are at 17, but he has some kind of safety valve. Does anyone have any idea of what kind of sentence he can expect. Half-way house, boot camp, or house arrest - are these an option. I know that with Federal, there is no probation. Is it strictly federal prison time though, or do any of the options above apply??????
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I have a question here, If an inmate is in OKlahoma Transit Center, by Con Air, when will they show up on the BOP? You said they can call home, how, when? collect? I thought their phone list had to be approved, or is that later when they get to their final destination? My son may be there tonight, don't know. I know the Marshalls took him to Memphis today, I am assuming he went Con Air to Oklahoma, but have no idea. I know he had money on the books at the county jail he was at when he left today, I assume the Marshalls have it, and it will follow him. From what I have read here, if he is in general population, it is not that bad. Right?
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Ya know? I think all of this varies; from the type of plane, where you're going and so on. The place I was on had the bathroom in the front so women did NOT have to walk through the men, but MANY of the "female" were not happy about this. They wanted to walk through the guys.....

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My friend was in 2 different county contract jails within CA and ended up in CA federal prison without ever having to be flown anywhere. His only times in MDC were court days. Those were bad enough, especially the day the officers decided to stop for a couple of hours at Starbucks on the drive back leaving him in the back of the cruiser.

After reading these stories I am going to say many prayers of gratitude ... and of hope that he stays where he is till this is over.
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My brother was sentenced in North Carolina, will he have to go to Ok before he is sent to his designated prison?
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