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Question : Do you believe weed is the gateway drug to other drugs??

--I do. I know if I would have never smoked weed I would have never experimented with other drugs...

Im drug free for 4 years now!!!
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I never used too but now I do. I mean you start smoking weed because it's not "that bad" (not that I think it is now but hey) and you enjoy it. Slowly you build up a tolerance and you hear of things that aren't "that bad" either or whatever maybe a "lil worse" and you know you don't get addicted to weed so why would you get addicted to anything else? HA! Next thing you know you try other stuff... Anything. When I was young and would smoke weed I'd see hmm what happens if I huff this, what happens if I take this, what happens if I smoke this... then there's bigger badder drugs that sound fun too.

Then who knows what will be in the pipe next or if you'll have a needle stickin out your arm.. who knows. Yeah weed's a gateway drug.
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A million times yes! It usually starts with weed and moves onto harder things. I can handle weed I can handle everything. The other misconception weed is not addictive. yes it is. I know a lot of weed heads (my bro is one) who can't function without it. All of his friends too. Yes weed is the drop that gets the floodgates opened!

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No, I think tobacco and alcohol are. I used those way before I tried weed.
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first of all, good for you for being sober for 4 years!

i coudnt actually answer the post because my answer is that it depends on the person.

i myself smoked weed for 3 years all day every day, and have been 2 weeks clean tomorrow. i have tried 2 other drugs(years ago) and had no desire for them. i have seen way to many bad cases of drug use and sad stories, that i personally feel no desire to get into that shit.

however, many years ago my boyfriend was a habitual weed smoker and it had led him to many other drugs.

so like i said, it depends on the person. ive seen a person coming down from heroin in the bunk below me and that quickly made me NEVER want to try heroin. and the same with all those other hard drugs. its just not worth the risk and the comedown to me.

so again, in my opinion, it wholeheartedly depends on the person, their addictive nature, and what they are willing to try and how co-dependant they become on that drug.
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I never used too but now I do. I mean you start smoking weed because it's not "that bad" (not that I think it is now but hey) and you enjoy it. Slowly you build up a tolerance and you hear of things that aren't "that bad" either or whatever maybe a "lil worse" and you know you don't get addicted to weed so why would you get addicted to anything else? HA! Next thing you know you try other stuff... Anything. When I was young and would smoke weed I'd see hmm what happens if I huff this, what happens if I take this, what happens if I smoke this... then there's bigger badder drugs that sound fun too.

Then who knows what will be in the pipe next or if you'll have a needle stickin out your arm.. who knows. Yeah weed's a gateway drug.

i just have to let you know that you CAN be addicted to weed, trust me on that.
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I agree with chelsea that many times it depends on the person. I grew up in a home where alcoholism and substance abuse were the norm, I have lost many friends and family members to various addictions. I have known people that never smoked a cigarette, tobacco or marijuana, that were hopelessly addicted to meth or other substances. I've known people that smoked marijuana every day but would never touch anything else. There are so many factors it really isn't just a yes or no question to me. I guess my best answer is that it can be.
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Nope- I think that if there is such a thing as a "gateway" drug that it is alcohol.
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First off YOU CAN be addicted to weed. Its not so much a physical addiction such as nicotine is. Its a mental addiction. It proves itself time and time again.

Nope- I tried MDMA (ecstasy) before anything else. I dont even think THAT is the gateway drug that got me started.

It all started with alcohol honestly. Even though 'it isnt that bad', I was drunk and decided to take this, and that, and the other thing. - I was into the party scene too, and wanted to stay up all night.. xtc,coke,speed all that did it for me.. weed put me to sleep- where's the fun in that :\
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true but tobacco and alcohol are legal....

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Interesting theories!! Thank you!! And I guess you are right.. it isnt a simple yes or no.. It depends on the person...
Thanks for all your support on my 4years being clean!!! It means alot!!
And anyone else you is sober for how ever long! CONGRATS!!!
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No, I don't believe so. If you look at the number of people who have tried other drugs - yes, a lot of them started with weed.

however, what a lot of people forget, is the number of people who do, or have smoked pot that never go on to harder drugs.

alcohol and cigarrettes may be legal, but they are also LETHAL. alcohol and cigarrettes have NO medical or helpful values. And i do believe the majority of people try alcohol or cigarrettes before anything else. I know I did!

marijuana on the other hand, when distributed and taken properly, can provide relief for some people who are suffering. It seemed to be the only thing that helped my mom make it through chemotherapy. But that's another topic
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you are right... i tend to forget that!! thanks!!


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Question : Do you believe weed is the gateway drug to other drugs??

--I do. I know if I would have never smoked weed I would have never experimented with other drugs...

Im drug free for 4 years now!!!
Congrats on being drug free!! However, I don't feel marijuana is the dangerous gateway drug it is made out to be. I beleive weed is the scapegoat for caffeine, nicotine, and alcohol which are legal and possibly if abused.....addictive. Gambling, pornography, cleptomania, nymphomania, etc. can also be viewed as addictive behaviors. Where do we draw the line?? Anything that is misused, abused, and overdone can be addictive.......even shopping. What's next......throwing people in jail for being shop-aholics?? As far as anything being "a gateway" to something else, that's true with anything in life. I once won a winning scratch- off lottery ticket. That made me want to buy more and more. Luckily, I used my judgement to see the redundancy in this type of thinking....I win- I buy more lotto tickets- Texas gets more money- I win- I buy more lotto tickets-........

Lottery tickets are legal in Texas, but just as addictive as any of the above mentioned vices. You see, anytime we let anything have control, we lose our rational thinking, and the ability to control our own lives. Marijuana may be illegal in most of the states, that is because the states can't profit from it through taxes. Again, congrats on your sobriety!! andy
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true but tobacco and alcohol are legal....
and medical marijuana is legal where i live. they are all still drugs.

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We also can't forget that with our culture medicating its children with appalling frequency, the "gateway" may well be the doctor's office- Meds commonly prescribed for ADD/ADHD are actually serious stimulants, as are many allergy medications approved for pediatric use.
When I was active in NA, a seriously significant percentage of men who reported meth as their drug of choice also reported that they'd been prescribed Ritilan as children... of these men, most said the speed did not get them high so much as made them feel normal. In the '70 and '80s, girls were far less likely to be diagnosed with ADD than boys which, given the average ages of the men I'm talking about, probably accounts for the gender imbalance, at least in large part.
But now, we *are* medicating our daughters nearly as much as our sons and I believe that we'll see a trend similar to the one I observed over the next 10 to 15 years- as these children who became dependant on prescriptions lose their 'scripts by becoming adults and start seeking ways to feel (for them) normal.
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I have to agree with nicotene and alcohol...nicotene was my first drug...then alcohol...i think they are soooooo damaging! Alcohol and drug free for 8 months now....hoping to become nicotene free SOON!
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i smoked weed, i haven't since i was like 17 but i never tried any other drug in my life. then you look at my boyfriend who smoked weed like crazy & he did quite a few other drugs & had a problem with perscription pills. so i don't know.
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We also can't forget that with our culture medicating its children with appalling frequency, the "gateway" may well be the doctor's office- Meds commonly prescribed for ADD/ADHD are actually serious stimulants, as are many allergy medications approved for pediatric use.
When I was active in NA, a seriously significant percentage of men who reported meth as their drug of choice also reported that they'd been prescribed Ritilan as children... of these men, most said the speed did not get them high so much as made them feel normal. In the '70 and '80s, girls were far less likely to be diagnosed with ADD than boys which, given the average ages of the men I'm talking about, probably accounts for the gender imbalance, at least in large part.
But now, we *are* medicating our daughters nearly as much as our sons and I believe that we'll see a trend similar to the one I observed over the next 10 to 15 years- as these children who became dependant on prescriptions lose their 'scripts by becoming adults and start seeking ways to feel (for them) normal.

weed never made me try the harder 2 "hard" drugs ive tried/done.. i tried those after being on adderall and ritalin for years( i was prescribed in the end of high school). once i went off them, i never had a desire to do anything other than weed again. so ide have to agree that even prescription drugs can be more of a gateway drug than weed, at least in my experiences.
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ide also like to say.. this is more of a joke and also the complete truth..

weed was never a "gateway" drug for me, just a "getaway" drug
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I do not believe it is a gateway drug at all. There is not a physical addiction to pot but there can be a mental one. I know that it just depends on the person.

I smoked pot in high school and it just wasn't a big deal. However, I know others who couldn't say no. For me it had it's time and place and then I outgrew it and got on with life.

I have a brother-in-law who is a very successful CPA and yet he still likes to smoke pot here and there after 40 years. And yet he has never tried any other drug.

I think what is worse is an addictive personality. Why can I smoke a half a pack of cigarettes on my birthday and throw away the rest of the pack? Every year!

And yet don't ask me to drink a diet soda! I would rather not have one than to drink diet.

I think pot like most other drugs works differently on each person. I think it depends on why you are using it and your unique personality.

I have a daughter who was a really big pothead for about 2 years while in high school. Now I can't even imagine her touching the stuff.
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Absolutely not.


'Gateway' drugs vary from person to person. Whatever the FIRST drug you tried is, is your gateway drug. They just say marijuana because it's the most popular and easy to get ahold of. Naturally, you try something, you are going to be curious about the other things.

I used to smoke green from morning to night in highschool. Drink as well. Then I chilled out & stopped everything. Then a couple years later I got into Rx drugs & it's definitely not because of the weed. To this day, I'll pop pills but you won't see me take even 1 hit off the blunt.
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