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In a 2-1 decision, the Ninth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco dismissed an Arizona inmate's claims that jail officials had violated his rights by having a female guard trainee search inside his shorts and pat down his genitals.

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I have never been ok with this. They do it here too.
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So what is good for the goose is NOT good for the gander? OMG!! Talk about sexual bias!! This is discrimination I don't care how you look at it!!
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This is vile and disgusting and its really asking for trouble. And the trouble will more likely be on the male inmates side. Geesh... I don't want to sound anti feminist but sometimes I wonder why a woman just don't sit her behind down...sometimes. Let a man be a man. We don't have to work nor be involved in every freaking cookie jar. Sometmes just keep your hands out & this would be a good time. No pun intended. I just don't get why a female CO would want to strip search, run her hands over a male inmates genitials?? To her I say Go Home bake a cake, whatever do something, get a life find a man, a toad, a frog or something. Ok I'm sorry - my rant for the day. Shame on The Law!
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if a woman wants to deal with horney male inmates and strip searching them..hey more power to her...getcha money...what im confused about is why the hell a guy would be so ubset about it?? i mean comeon..im not tryin to be disrespectful cause i know we all got dudes in there but i mean really? that guy musta been tootie fruity u kno? no disrespect ladies.
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This has got me very perplexed. You mean to tell me the same female CO who will not let my man masterbate in private, without writing him up, can now grab his genitals? WTF???? Those female CO's need to get their power trips organized.
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if a woman wants to deal with horney male inmates and strip searching them..hey more power to her...getcha money...what im confused about is why the hell a guy would be so ubset about it?? i mean comeon..im not tryin to be disrespectful cause i know we all got dudes in there but i mean really? that guy musta been tootie fruity u kno? no disrespect ladies.
Why would they get upset, the inmate that is. Let's say the CO doesn't care for them. She's got the power an authority to pretty much crush his nutts. I'm keeping it real. And to say there's no remote possibility of that ever happening is a joke. Secondly, the 1st time female CO rubs him and it excites to a point of a poignant Erection, then what is she gonna do get pissed and mad? Possibly whine and complain she feels violated and disrespected. You know in many prisons 'hard ons' are totally against the institutions law. No matter how natural of an act. So my concern is not a worry that some female CO would get to touch my guys 'rod'. There are much more important things to be concerned about like him getting out. My concerns are the repercussions of what could happen to any male inmate. All men aren't jumping or leaping to have any ol womans touch, there on the inside or here on the out. For a male inmate to want to be respected about his genitalia and simply do his time without the possibility of friction accusations or lies because of this strip search He's deemed a Tootie Fruitty - WoW. Have a Blessed Day - I'm Out. Although I wonder if you're a female CO.
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This has got me very perplexed. You mean to tell me the same female CO who will not let my man masterbate in private, without writing him up, can now grab his genitals? WTF???? Those female CO's need to get their power trips organized.
Exactly...power trip! And the inmate will have no Power when those CO's flip out. 'His penis got hard and I feel violated!' Why don't they go sit themselves down for Pete Sakes....

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If the female is a certified correctional officer then to strip-search inmates is just one of the many aspects of her job description... there was a huge conflict over allowing female CO's into male prisons, and the courts ruled that it was unlawful to discriminate against females from working in male prisons, so I don't see what the problem is for a female to do that since it's just part of her job, that is unless the guy is being unreasonably strip-searched
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..I would think protocol would require two COs present at time of ball scratching, or coochie grabbing. And maybe gloves would be mandatory on a cavity search.Prison is such a stinking shithole.
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I agree with you. Some things are in our job description that we may not like to do..but we have to anyways.

I do think that there should always be 2 guards at all times present when an inmate is being searched...not only for the protection of the inmate but the guards as well.



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I know this is a very touchy subject for many of us, but we must keep in mind that this is a family support site and to refrain from such comments as "crushing nuts" and "coochie grabbing". I need to point out that no one is in violation, so lets just remember to keep it clean.

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I don't think I will ever be ok with this. I think it just violates your rights period... I don't care if your in jail or not. I don't even want a male gyn. What if this dude was married and just didn't want anyone but his wife touching his junk... What if he is gay? But no the system is set up that no matter what your in for you are no longer a human and have no rights... Some people think there is nothing wrong with it and may even get off on being touched by some strange person, either way I don't like it... I honestly wish there was something we could do about it but all you can do is sign petitions that will never go anywhere because people will see it as sexist... I am all for womens rights and am very active when it comes to some things but this one here I just can't support...
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I don't think I will ever be ok with this. I think it just violates your rights period... I don't care if your in jail or not. I don't even want a male gyn. What if this dude was married and just didn't want anyone but his wife touching his junk... What if he is gay? But no the system is set up that no matter what your in for you are no longer a human and have no rights... Some people think there is nothing wrong with it and may even get off on being touched by some strange person, either way I don't like it... I honestly wish there was something we could do about it but all you can do is sign petitions that will never go anywhere because people will see it as sexist... I am all for womens rights and am very active when it comes to some things but this one here I just can't support...
The security of the inmates and staff takes precedence over inmate "embarrassment" or "humiliation", and in this case, there was significant suspicion against the inmate that merited the "strip search," so no rights were violated. Most strip searches are essential to maintaining prison security, and the ones that aren't are usually condemend in the court of law, so what you're saying is partly correct.

There's been inmates who have won lawsuits against correctional officers that have conducted unreasonable strip-searches, and in which case I agree with you that such strip searches violate certain codes of human decency and rights.

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Here's a thought maybe the guy's didn't like it was degrading? and the fact that they have one more way to mock and humiliate the guys.I do agree with tv ^ the strip searches are needed at time's for obvious reasons but it should be by men

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I've been the recipient of strip searches by straight men and it felt like a necessary evil. I've been strip searched by women and gay men and that triggered all the feelings of the sexual assault I went through as a child.
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ummm, but do we hear of male CO's strip searching and patting down female inmates?? heck to the naw.
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The security of the inmates and staff takes precedence over inmate "embarrassment" or "humiliation", and in this case, there was significant suspicion against the inmate that merited the "strip search," so no rights were violated. Most strip searches are essential to maintaining prison security, and the ones that aren't are usually condemend in the court of law, so what you're saying is partly correct.

There's been inmates who have won lawsuits against correctional officers that have conducted unreasonable strip-searches, and in which case I agree with you that such strip searches violate certain codes of human decency and rights.

But it said ALL inmates were searched... Didn't say this inmate was their person of interest. It bothers me even more knowing there were "free" male guards around that could have done the search instead of a trainee...
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Hmmm. So how do I volunteer for this training exercise?
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if a woman wants to deal with horney male inmates and strip searching them..hey more power to her...getcha money...what im confused about is why the hell a guy would be so ubset about it?? i mean comeon..im not tryin to be disrespectful cause i know we all got dudes in there but i mean really? that guy musta been tootie fruity u kno? no disrespect ladies.
I can't believe you just said that!! Maybe, he is just a decent person who respects his wife and family. Maybe, he knows all about common decency...which is more than I can say for you. What is wrong with you????????????????????Please don't insult people like this....you only make yourself look ignorant, and backward............andy morin
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It's a human rights violation. Amnesty International should be notified.
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LOL! You're in Amerika, you have no rights!
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The really funny thing is that if this was a female, and she complained she felt violated by a male guard - it would become a national issue.
But because its' a male who should apparently feel like a "tootie fruity" because he doesn't want just anything with breasts grabbing his junk, no one cares?
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if a male co cant strip a women, no FEMALE CO should STRIP A MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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