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Old 01-17-2009, 01:50 AM
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I was checking on the whereabouts of my significant other on the BOP website, and I noticed that there is a release date already assigned. The more I looked at the date, the more confused I became. You see, his sentence was 196 months, which is roughly 16.3 years. The date the BOP has on the website doesn't match up to that figure, so I assumed that it was accounting for good time. However, compared to all of my calculations (done by guides provided in another thread on PTO) the designated date is off by about a year or more from every GTC calculation I can find.

I guess I'm really trying to ask if the designated release date on the BOP website is accurate or not? Is it just a figure that they put on there, or do I really need to count on that day, or one close to it, for a release, instead of my GTC calculations?

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Old 01-17-2009, 06:44 AM
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Did you account for any time he was held prior to sentencing?
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Old 01-17-2009, 10:34 AM
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Well, I actually did a couple of calculations. The BOP website has his release date as 01/22/2022. So here's my math...

This was your calculation that you provided in another thread (thanks, by the way!!):

Step 1 - 196 divided by 12 = 16.333
Step 2 - 16.333 - .333 = 16
Step 3 - 16 times 47 = 752
Step 4 - 16 times 12 = 192, 196 - 192 = 4
Step 5 - 4 times 30 = 120 [120 Days, 15 GTC]
Step 6 - 15 + 752 = 767
Step 7 - 767 divided by 30 = 25.6, 25 months and 6 days
Step 8 - 196 - 25.6 = 170.4

Then, he's already served 15 months in county jail and is just now reaching his prison destination, so...

170.4 - 15 = 155.4
155.4 divided by 12 = 12.95 years.

I also did a couple of other calculations, and they all came to about the same number. However, it still doesn't match up to the BOP release date. According to them, he will be released after 14 years and about 3 months (he was arrested on Nov 1, 2007). So this is where I am a little confused. The BOP release date isn't 16.3 years, as it would be without GTC, but it isn't 12.95 years, which would include GTC.

I did another calculation that I found in the same thread that you posted the first calucaltion. I can't remember who posted it, but I tried it out and it was actually closer to what the BOP has figured:

Step 1 - 196 times 30.4 = 5958.4 (30.4 would be months, then the answer is in days)
Step 2 - 5958.4 times 0.148 = 881.8 (0.148 is the percent of GTC)
Step 3 - 5958.4 - 881.8 - 5076.6
Step 4 - 5076.6 divided by 30.4 = 166.9 (30.4 changes it back to months, then the answer is 166.9 months)
Step 5 - 166.9 divided by 12 = 13.9 years (12 changes it back to years)


Then, I read another post saying that the BOP doesn't actually award GTC for the time an inmate may have spent in county jails or holding areas, but only for the time they spent in actual Federal Prisons. So, then I subtracted the time he's already served, and did the same calculation above. This time it came out to 12.8 years, which is practically what your calculation gave me.

Anyway, if you can decipher anything from all of this it would be GREATLY appreciated! Thank you!
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Old 01-17-2009, 04:48 PM
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i believe that they do get credit for time already served in county...if that is true your calculations are pretty close...

sentence 196 - 15 months served = 181 x .85 (% of time served) = 154 months 12 years + 10 months

does that make sense?
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Old 01-17-2009, 05:49 PM
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Oh really? I sure hope so!

Well, I thought my calculations were pretty accurate, but compared to the BOP website, my calculations are off by a year or more. I guess it's a mystery.

Thanks for replying tho!
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When he was in the county jail, was he ever being held on anything besides the federal charge?
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Old 01-18-2009, 01:14 AM
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They say its 85% but somewhere I learned that the BOP calculations end up making them serve 87 or 87.5% something because the way the bop figures it out that they only give good time to the time that is actually served if that makes sense. They are suppose to get 54 days off a year but with BOP math they only get 47 (or 46) days off a years. If its a couple year sentence then its not that much but for a sentence like 16 years those days add up!!! I dont know why it has to be so difficult. 85% should be 85% not 87%

I suck at math so do your math with 87% or 87.5% and see if it matches up with the bop website.
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Old 01-18-2009, 07:46 PM
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Zelda, his charges were all drug-related (large amounts), so they quickly became federal charges. I'd say they switched from state to fed in a month or less. So, no he was never really held on any charges other than the federal charges.
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