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Old 03-12-2007, 08:40 PM
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Question How does one go about removing/lifting a no contact order?

Hello, your friendly neighborhood nco inquirer.

Just found out that the courts extended the nco to
2010!

By that time kiddo will be 13 & have not seen him in over 5 years, not to mention the strain on our relationship.

So is there any way i can get the nco lifted & how do i go about it?

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You go back to the person who placed the NCO...the judge, parole, whoever... Don't get your hopes up, however.
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send a pm to Kellil she posted on here to someonelse that she had gone thru this process. I am sure she can give you some more help
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We went to superior court and got the NCO lifted on his judgement and sentecing. We thought that was good enough. Now the probation office has decided to impose their own. And there in NOTHING you can do about one that the DOC or community corrections puts on. We hired and atty to do the research, and in 7/2005 legislature gave the DOC power OVER the courts to do whatever they want, and there is no way to stop them other than to change the law which would have to go to supreme court. If the order is from a judge you can go in front of a judge and try to change it. Otherwise if it is DOC/CCO or probation (all the same agency) there is nothing you can do other than try to appeal to the supervisor of the officer. And since it's and "inner" office thing, I was warned that your appeals will go nowhere because they all back each other up.
That is why I came on this site to see if anyone else is dealing with a DOC no contact.
I understand and sympathize. It is tearing families apart and hurting children. My heart goes out to you.
Let me know if there is anything I can do for you. We HEAVILY researched this.
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I had not heard of a doc nco before. Sounds like it will take some work to get it removed. good luck.
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Find out what court or system put the NCO on and try to challenge it in court or thru appeals. Who put the order on?
If it's DOC then you cannot remove it you have to wait unitl he's off community custody/probation... Even then they can put one on for a long time, if they think that he's going to be a threat to you.
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ok I have a question the judge had ordered my spouse to 3 years and 3 years probation after he gets out but he put on there a no contact order for the whole time 3 and 3 we have 4 kids together and married i was told you will have to write a letter to the judge and wait and see this all took place last week, if that does not work what else can i do? running out of things to look for on net to help me i wrote the letter but this is going to put a big strain on me and my family if we can't have any contact for that long suggestions in case
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I am not sure why the order was put in place, but perhaps if he got anger management and parenting/marriage classes the judge would see that he is making an effort.


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would the DOC be the state of washington?? one time they put a NCO on me and my man, because blah blah i "supposedly hit him!!" which wasn't true, but yeah, but my man didn't place it and he didn't even want it on, but the state was the one who put it, all he did was go talk to someone in the court house or something around where i live (sorry don't know the name or nothing) and all they did was give him a court date, he went to it, and it was dropped that same day, so yeah... but i went to jail before he got all that stuff done for a violation of a NCO!!
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The original J&S (juudgment and sentence) has a section on prohibitions / conditions. It usually states, " AS WELL AS STANDARD DOC CONDITIONS". This gives the CCO the right to impose additional conditions as he/she feels are appropriate to the individual. A no contact order ususally applies to victims. This can be appealed to the court by the victim after turning 18. Otherwise it is normally for life. A prohibited contact would be like minors where there is a sex offense involved. If so and this is a family member it can be lifted by 1) appealing to a court (as was done). 2) working with the CCO to establish a safety plan which would be acceptable, usually finding someone to be a shaperone / sponsor to supervise any contact. This could be a relative. The shaperone / sponsor would have to fill out some forms and be investigated for criminal history, and meet with the CCO and RMS (risk management specialist). You appearently have done number one but without number two you will have to wait until the community custody is over. If the CCO approves the plan there will be special conditions attached regarding any physical contact etc. Also the age of the child and the ability to understand what is proper and improper contact will be considered.
It's a lot to go throught but DOC first has to protect the child before considering any family unification desires of the offender. The nature of the original offense and the likelyhood of reoffending as well as recent history of compliance with the community custody rules will have a factor.
It can be done. Remeber that DOC is liable if they make a bad decission and the CCO is accountable (as is his or her job). The longer that they have known you the better.
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My boyfriend and I are currently going through some issues with DOC. 4 years ago there was an assault against me by him. ok, he admitted his guilt and so on, there was a restraining order put out. alright. we obeyed that bugger. while it was in effect, he went to jail for a different matter. now he got out on dec 28th. he met his cco, disclosed everything to him, and we thought all was good. his cco apparently doesn't remember being told about the assault, and is now saying we were lying to him, and put an nco on us. i am gathering that there isn't anything we can do is there? we have met with his therapist, who cancels almost ever appointment we have, and nothing ever progresses. we are getting down right tired of this bull, someone please help!

he got released with a housing voutcher, but turns out they haven't been paying his rent for the last three months, and the last thing we need is for him to go to county for not having an address to register to. if we could remove the nco he could live with me.

this whole situation is fustrating to all hell simply because he mother passed away 6 days before he released, so he has no other support system really, and DOC has it out for me apparently because i want to be there for him. GAHHHH!!!!!!!

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His housing voucher is only good for three months. He will not evicted so long as DOC has approved the housing and will eventually pay for the three months. Beyond that he will have to find some work and/or public assistance.

The NCO can be appealed by you in the sentencing court. His CCO and Therapist will probably appear to contest it if they are against it.

When you meet you should have a well prepared plan on your living arrangement. Who pays for what, are there any restrictions on the location because of schools or parks etc. Are there any minors living in the house. Are there any drug issues you may have which would complicate things? DOC will look at community safety issues first, and then the living together issues. He has many RSO conditions / restrictions that need to be considered. His recent compliance with the rules will also be a factor.


Do not show up at the DOC office with him as they would violate and arrest him for violating the NCO.


Try phoning his therapist until you can get through. I suggest you ask to meet with her in person. When you meet, his CCO will probably sit in. They really don't want him to be homeless as it increases his chances of getting in trouble..
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He and I had a scheduled apointment with his therapist about a month ago, and she said she would talk to his CCO about modifying the NCO, but she never did. I understand she is busy, but it's still fustrating.

The reasoning for the NCO, four years ago he was on some medications that had caused some issues for his other family members, he had a psychotic break and attacked me. We went through the whole court thing and there was a restraining order put out then.

He went to jail (something unrelated to assault) and the restraining order held. After it timed out, we began writting back and fourth (as friends at the time) constantly.

When his CCO placed the NCO, he appealed it to his CCO's supervisor, his supervisor said he had no problem with us having written or verbal contact via phone. Honestly, we are perfectly happy working with just that for now, but we are both each others support systems, and it is kindda hard.
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A NCO placed on you by the court can only be removed by the court. Court issued NCOs normally have an expiration date.

If his CCO put it on him as part of his Community Custody rules it can be removed by his CCO. His therapist is also concerned about him having intimate relations with you as it relates to his offending behavior history. Since they have indicated that anything but physical contact is OK, I suspect the hangup is with his therapist.

If so then we are back to my other post - he needs to prepare a "safety plan" for when he is with you or living with you. I assume you are over 18 so there will not be any age issues. The therapist will not believe you can live together without being intimate with him.
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We went to superior court and got the NCO lifted on his judgement and sentecing. We thought that was good enough. Now the probation office has decided to impose their own. And there in NOTHING you can do about one that the DOC or community corrections puts on. We hired and atty to do the research, and in 7/2005 legislature gave the DOC power OVER the courts to do whatever they want, and there is no way to stop them other than to change the law which would have to go to supreme court. If the order is from a judge you can go in front of a judge and try to change it. Otherwise if it is DOC/CCO or probation (all the same agency) there is nothing you can do other than try to appeal to the supervisor of the officer. And since it's and "inner" office thing, I was warned that your appeals will go nowhere because they all back each other up.
That is why I came on this site to see if anyone else is dealing with a DOC no contact.
I understand and sympathize. It is tearing families apart and hurting children. My heart goes out to you.
Let me know if there is anything I can do for you. We HEAVILY researched this.
I am also dealing with a no contact order problem, and the no contact order isn't null until probation is up. The no contact order was instated when i was 16, and my significant other was charged with sexual misconduct w/ a minor. The charge was moved down to a class A misdemeanor however. I am now 18, soon to be 19 and i'm ready for the no contact order to be over with. It's not only punishing him, but punishing me as well, when i was the supposed victim in the situation. When i turned 18 i called to inquire about the removal of the no contact order, and they said i would have to petition the court for its removal. (I live in Indiana btw) But since they said the no contact order is in effect until his probation is up, it may be controlled by the probation officer or his/her supervisor. It's been almost 3 years and i'm not about to turn 19 and still not be allowed contact for something that happened when i was 16, and was blown out of proportion. If you know anything that would be helpful please let me know! Thanks!
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