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Old 09-10-2006, 04:21 PM
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How does the prison determaine if inmate is calling a cell phone or home phone?
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Old 09-10-2006, 04:27 PM
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I didn't know the prison could determine that. They can?
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Well where I live cell phone numbers have their own prefix.
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Most cell phone companies do not allow you to accept collect calls, check with your provider...

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I use pre pay so i can get the collect calls to my cell phone... i dont think they know if your service is prepay
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I wish there was a way Soldado could use prepay.....
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Old 09-10-2006, 05:49 PM
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Most prisons/DOC's require the number to be submitted prior to them being able to call. In many cases, at this time, the number is examined to make sure it is appropriate.

Most of the DOC's have a portion in their contract with the provider to be able to research the info. While they may not always use it, they may follow up at any time, even after the DOC has approved the number and your loved one has called it. (Not fair, but it's the way it is.) Basically, they can get the phone company to access info that is between phone companies that wouldn't be available to the average person.

Like mrsd said, cell phones have their own exchanges. Line portability has changed that some, but in the majority of cases, a cell wouldn't have a land line exchange and a land line wouldn't have a cellular exchange.

Also, any Joe-Schmo can go online with a reverse directory site and see what company the number is registered to or find the exchanges specific to cells or to landlines. For example, one of my old cells was through T-mobile and with the reverse directory--it clearly said that and anyone so inclined would have noticed because T-mobile doesn't have a land line service. Other companies like Verizon offer both and they have to resort to identifying the exchange.

Very generally speaking, many cell phones are added in states that have policies saying no cells. In those cases, many folks will get *caught* using it, not because of the tracing or legwork, but because they tell on themselves. Calls ARE monitored and recorded, so if something is suspicious on one call, they MAY go back to review others to see if it's the same thing.

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Old 09-10-2006, 05:52 PM
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Most cell phone companies do not allow you to accept collect calls, check with your provider...

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The cell phone companies don't. Plain and simple. None of them have a contract with MCI or CBS, but because CBS will set up prepaid on anything and at times, MCI can be coaxed into it, as well as many states having the option that the prisoner can pay for the calls, it's actually possible for calls to come through on a cell.

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so in other words.... dont say ANYTHING regarding using a cell phone when talking to an inmate.... your right its easy to slip and forget your phone call is being monitered I guess...

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The cell phone companies don't. Plain and simple. None of them have a contract with MCI or CBS, but because CBS will set up prepaid on anything and at times, MCI can be coaxed into it, as well as many states having the option that the prisoner can pay for the calls, it's actually possible for calls to come through on a cell.

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Like someone said, cell phone companies have there own prefixes so when the number is put on a list this is one way of knowing. Prison's in California use to be able to somehow tell if you were on a cell. If i am not mistaken it would beep on there end somehow. This was about 10-12 years ago when my husband first went in. Since then i have not know any prison to know unless you mention it. Rairai, like i said in your previous post don't even mention it. When he asks what r u doing do not say, oh I am at the market.
California does not have a prepaid account like some other states so when PCO issues numbers to inmates they will issue a regualr number that looks like it is a home number.
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Old 09-14-2006, 12:12 AM
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right now scanning the list of numbers seems to be the only way they can actually keep a cell phone number off the list. with call forwarding and so many other things these days, calls can get wherever they need to get, be it a landline or a cell phone.

my hubby calls my cell phone on a regular basis, his number was approved, we didn't have to hide. here it just depends on the prison. some prisons allow it some don't.

i honestly forget sometimes not to say where i am, although i recommend NOT saying it. if i am out and i say it...nothing happens.

i even called global tel link and complained about my CELL phone calls being dropped, the rep told me that they didn't reimburse CELL calls made from the prison, only landline calls.
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I ONLY have used a cell phone. I set up an account with CBS where I pre-paid $50 each time I put money on. I used my cell, which does have the same area code as a normal land line phone. I never once got talked to about it, or in trouble for it. It wasn't a big deal. If you CAN'T use a cell phone, perhaps you could "forward" your land line number to your cell phone (so you can get the call anywhere you are with your cell), which is what I used to do several years ago. I don't see the big deal anyway - you're paying for the call anyway. Some prisons are so dumb.
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Old 09-14-2006, 10:28 AM
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MrsChris--Like you said, the facility your loved one is in permits cell phone calls, so even if you said you're on a cell when it's being monitored, then they shouldn't blink at it.

ToughTimes--Many facilities don't allow cell phones, but CBS will set up prepaid accounts anyway. That's actually something they don't enforce, but they will drop the calls or report it as inappropriate if the occassion arises... and we've all heard the warnings for call forwarding before. Yes, I know folks do it all the time, but some folks get caught and punished...

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Old 09-14-2006, 12:24 PM
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Cell phones have different prefixes than land lines and you have to have a number approved before they can call you. Fortunately cell phones are okay in Oregon for prepaid accounts through VAC (Value added Communication). My particular cell phone plan does not accept collect calls.
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U can check online to see if a number is
a landline or if it's a cell phone!
Do a search and you can find it!

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Some people will forward the home phone to the cell so that way you won't miss the call. The prison won't know because the call is still being accepted and billed therough your home phone. The calls are recorded and monitored so they would only know if you say where you are and to be honest I always do it and say where I am ( store, driving etc) I haven't had a problem yet.
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how can you check to see if a number is a landline or cell phone?

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Try www.reversephonedirectory.com.

Or any of the reverse phone look-ups.

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Hey there, I know that here in Canada. All the numbers are put on a calling list and the inmate has a pin number, so when they make a call they dial it then punch in there pin number. I don't think the Guards can tell if it's a cell or a home phone number. Then again there's call fordwarding
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Old 09-24-2006, 09:40 PM
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REMEMBER!!!!

Just because CBS/Evercom sets up the account does NOT mean that the prison finds receiving calls on cell phones acceptable. Get your info from the DOC before believing what the phone company may tell you.

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I have virgin mobile pre-pay on my cell. My baby submitted my phone number for his call list and it was approved. I pre-pay monthly and have unlimited minutes after 7pm and weekends. He bought a prepaid card he said in the prison. We had no trouble connecting. I get the announcement it is a call from a correctional facility and I hear him say his name. And then it asked me to press 0 to accept the call. It does however disconnected if the single gets dropped. They also cut into the conversation every few minutes to remind you where this call is from and that they are monitering ...
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Old 10-13-2006, 04:26 PM
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Sabana, that's great, but some states don't care if they approve the number once they discover it's a cell, then, so conveniently, the apply the rules... but it *IS* possible as long as you make alternate payment arrangements.

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