"THE SYSTEM"

Kathy · #1 04-16-2003, 01:26 AM

Did anyone see on Court TV "THE SYSTEM"?

I was floored! If this is OLD HAT, sorry! But, it was all about SHU at Pelican Bay!

love
Kathy
PS Hey this is way to COOL! I think this was long over due!
Glad to see it!

TxRenee · #2 04-16-2003, 01:33 AM

I saw it ....Everytime I hear Pelican Bay I think of Barb!

Kathy · #3 04-16-2003, 01:35 AM

Court TV goes inside Pelican Bay, considered one of this country's most dangerous maximum-security prisons, to tell the story of the prison's elite security unit, as they come face to face with the most violent criminals in one of the toughest environments imaginable.

http://www.courttv.com/onair/shows/thesystem/

Kathy · #4 04-16-2003, 01:37 AM

Wasn't that CRAZY about the Mexican Mafia?

YIKES! I can't remember but I think they said the guy calling all the shots had over 600 on his hit list which was rolled up and put where the Sun don't shine!

POOH!

danielle · #5 04-16-2003, 05:44 AM

I watched this last night...I was floored.

**mrsdragoness** · #6 04-16-2003, 10:11 AM

I watched this at 1 am this morning and I felt sick afterwards.

Theres a lot of things racing thru my mind and I really don't know what to say. My heart goes out to anyone who has a loved one there.

MRs. D

Kathy · #7 04-16-2003, 11:10 AM

I second that Mrs. D, I second that!

I have been corresponding with several who are in there and when I told them that I had a son locked up in Calif., they became very concern because they didn't want my son Red Flagged as being a part of them or what the System believes to be who they are! They said that the System would do that just because I was writing them.

My son also became very worried when I told him I was writing 3 guys, but it is all innocent and about their Art. But, my son said it didn't matter that Pelican Bay is serious and they would mess with him just because I was writing these guys.

One guy has Life in SHU. I just think this SUCKS!

We need to change this! I just don't know how we can!

Love
Kathy

sqweeky · #8 04-16-2003, 05:43 PM

I watched it last night it gave me nightmares, I could not think about the hell hole , But you know the show only show the good guys never what really goes on.
I am glad Ed is in Vacaville CMF
Terri

Valerie · #9 04-16-2003, 08:19 PM

There was a show on about all prisons with SHU programs when my son was in Pelican Bay SHU and after them saying several times that it housed THE WORST of the WORST, I couldn't watch anymore. Now my son is going back to the SHU and believe me , he is not the worst of the worst and I really hate hearing that.

California Sunshine · #10 04-16-2003, 09:29 PM

I didn't see it and I think I'm glad I didn't I have a loved one locked up in there and it worries me daily although so far he has been fine

**Barbara** · #11 04-16-2003, 09:49 PM

OK folks you caught me with my panties down. I live in South Orange County and I have Cox Cable they don’t offer Court TV so I missed this program. I have seen many TV shows done on Pelican Bay and I have yet to see one done much differently than the John Walsh Show. Do you believe everything you see on the JW show I think not so please don’t believe that the Bay is the WORST OF THE WORST. I will tell you that most of the convicts are doing life so there is just not much more that can be taken away from them. I have been corresponding with 7 convicts at the Bay and I would not hesitate to have any one of them in my home. There are a great many reasons that can land a California prisoner in the SHU at Pelican Bay. You don’t have to have horns and fangs growing out of your head to be considered SHU potential. That is not to say that there are not very dangerous men in there but they are not all raving lunatics either. Since I am completely in the dark on the show that was presented I will have to just say I have not seen a true story on the SHU yet. Love Barbara

Kathy · #12 04-16-2003, 10:07 PM

I took some notes but I wasn't fast enough!

They mentioned alot about a guy named Haddick who went down in 1999 for a stabbing on the yard which of course was Video Taped and played over and over last night during the program. He was a White Supremist! And they talked about how the Gangs have to fight if they are ordered to do so. And if they don't they will end up stabbed.

They showed the Late night Raids and Code of Words.
Something about Soft Candy and Hard Candy, killing Fields and putting them in check.

They stated "MOST DANGEROUS are in SHU" or "THE MOST VIOLENT OFFENDERS"

Zero Tolerance, Leaderships in SHU, Notes and Messages to communicate with gangs on the street done thru the Mail, so they read every letter.

Kite-small notes hidden in their Butt and authorizing hits from SHU because they have life and don't care if they go to court.

They have 1 to 1.5 hours on the yard by themself.

They mentioned all the Gangs and how the yard is divided. But, hey we know all about that crap. As if they have a choice!

You can order the tape at the URL I posted!

Love
Kathy

California Sunshine · #13 04-16-2003, 10:12 PM

My friend just wrote me today saying that in "lock down" he is allowed out of his cell once a week but they are in seperate cages outside like animals he likened it to the dog pound!

Kathy · #14 04-16-2003, 10:18 PM

YES, they showed that too! It was a Tall Cage just outside of there cell door in SHU and also they showed the other cells and weapons used by inmates to poke the eyes of the guards.

It was very overwhelming for me! I will be praying for the Guys in SHU!

They have my HEART!

Love
Kathy

songbird · #15 05-01-2003, 09:38 PM

What is the name of this episode on Pelican Bay? I tried looking through the "Purchase Past Episodes" section, and I cannot find one on Pelican Bay. Thanks.