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Old 11-03-2018, 11:34 PM
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I spoke with my newly incarcerated LO, and he said there is no heat in the institution. Is that really true? Will he have no heat all winter? I realize this is Arizona, but it gets cold!!
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Old 11-04-2018, 09:30 AM
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From what my daughters bio dad says , its actually nice because theres so many guys and it gets hot at times where hes at even with the ac .

He has mentioned its gotten quite cold when they are suppose to be sleeping but once everyone is up and awake it warms up
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Old 11-04-2018, 10:13 AM
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I spoke with my newly incarcerated LO, and he said there is no heat in the institution. Is that really true? Will he have no heat all winter? I realize this is Arizona, but it gets cold!!
It is true that some facilities don't have heat. Many don't have A/C. Most just have swamp coolers in the summer. Make sure he has winter clothes
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No heat is not something we have dealt with yet. In Stiner, 2 facilities in Kingman, and 1 in Tucson, so far he has had heat and a/c or swamp coolers. In Kingman, it was too hot with the heat on and they would go outside to cool down.

Living without heat is easier than living without a/c in AZ in most of the state, as long as the elevation isn't over 5,000 feet.
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It’s against the law not to provide cooling in Arizona. So what you are saying is your LO has had heat at some facilities? Is it possible they haven’t started running it at my LO’s facility? When do they typically turn it on? I’m an Arizona native, and I think winters are cold!
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The heat just hasn’t been turned on yet. With the unpredictable weather in Arizona it usually isn’t switched over until around Thanksgiving. Even then we have warm weather and heat isn’t needed due to the OVERCROWDING in all the prisons here!!! Most inmates are enjoying the break from extreme heat since most are cooled with swamp coolers.
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I wouldnt say its cruel, my work place has only one thermostat & it takes 24-36 hours to switch from AC to Heat. We have to vote if its cold enough outside or if the weather forecast shows just a few cold days & then itll be warm again so we need to keep the ac on or along the line like that. My apartments are also like that. Only difference is we have more choices as what to wear. They should deff give them more blankets and/or jackets
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How very cruel. Each cell should have its own thermostat so the inmate can be comfortable. No prisoner should ever suffer being not or cold. We owe them the best of care.
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My LO doesn’t even have a cell and won’t ever. They have bunks in one gargantuan room.
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Having been a guest of ADOC on two occasions I think I can settle this. There will be heat - they probably just have not turned it on yet. This time of year we were provided with an extra blanket, and a warm coat. Being warm really is not a problem - but being cool in the summer can be a real struggle. Hope this helps
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Thank you for resolving this for me! I will relay it to my LO.
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Having been a guest of ADOC on two occasions I think I can settle this. There will be heat - they probably just have not turned it on yet. This time of year we were provided with an extra blanket, and a warm coat. Being warm really is not a problem - but being cool in the summer can be a real struggle. Hope this helps
I called and asked my uncle who did time there in phoenix when I was in high school and he said the same thing, that they make sure the inmates are provided blankets and stuff but that most people always complained about it being too hot not too cold and most loved the climate change inside the facility.
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Thanks for taking the time to corroborate this. I will tell my LO. My LO is cold, but thankfully won’t have to be forever because eventually the heat will be on. The information you all have supplied has made us feel better.
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Itís against the law not to provide cooling in Arizona. So what you are saying is your LO has had heat at some facilities? Is it possible they havenít started running it at my LOís facility? When do they typically turn it on? Iím an Arizona native, and I think winters are cold!
How cold does it get there in the winter?
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It can get below freezing at times at night. Nights become cold 40sF.
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It really is a case of the temperature differences. When it is 75 to 85 in the daytime and the temps drop 30 degrees or more in the desert overnight, depending on your elevation, you really feel the cold/heat.

I grew up in NJ. I thought i would never get used to AZ summer. Now I am cold when it drops below 78 and shivering at 65.

SadSurprised - I don't know which facility your loved one is in. But Phoenix and Tucson as of this past week were still having 80 plus highs in the daytime. Tucson, Kingman, Douglas, Red Rock, and all of the prisons that I know are dorms, have heat and cooling. It is only the really old prisons being used that I have heard don't.

Expect your LO will want to buy a fan for summer, and he will probably need it. They are issued long sleeves, sweatshirt, jacket in the winter, but if he needs more I think he can buy extras from the commissary.

While they can't "sell" things to each other, the reality is that every prison has "yard stores" and extra blankets, clothes and such can be obtained that way cheaper than the commissary. Inmates will lose such items upon a transfer and if a guard wants to enforce it for whatever reason. It's a strange system, as every dorm has a yard store for each race and the guards ignore it all unless they are upset by something else. The whole yard store system is against the rules but continues to exist. I am not advocating this as a solution, but am simply letting you know in case he brings it up.
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It really is a case of the temperature differences. When it is 75 to 85 in the daytime and the temps drop 30 degrees or more in the desert overnight, depending on your elevation, you really feel the cold/heat.

I grew up in NJ. I thought i would never get used to AZ summer. Now I am cold when it drops below 78 and shivering at 65.
This! I grew up in the rain and cold but now living in SoAZ, I can tell you the minute it drops below 80. 73 today and I was out in pants and a cardigan. Admittedly we don't use our heat but for the lowest of the low temps (below 40 at night), but if we didn't have it at all we'd miss it.
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i must be weird lol
Even if its 40 outside , my heat is off , my ceiling fans are on & a fan blowing on me & i sleep with minimal clothes & one thin ish blanket.
My own apartment when you controlled your own ac & heat my ac was on all year round at about 55-65
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This thread is very interesting to me, I been through Arizona, though I’ve never lived there, here at home it 26 degrees tonight, but tomorrow day should at least be in the low 40s, that’s light jacket weather. I know people acclimate, but it does take time, That would have to be awful for folks in Prison to go to a whole different climate than what they are used too, and have to be miserable.
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My LO called last night and the heat is on in his facility, and he’s comfortable.
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