Second Chance Pell Grants 2016-2017

[mssirois2u]

This is the email I got this morning on the Second Chance act and pell grants for inmates!

This experiment allows Title IV eligible schools to apply to partner with a Federal or State Penal institution to provide Federal Pell Grants to otherwise eligible students. Students cannot apply for this experiment. Rather, once the Department finalizes the list of selected schools, only students from the partnering penal institutions of those schools will be eligible. A final listing of schools who were selected will be announced later this Spring/Summer. We will provide a listing of the schools on the Experimental Sites Website: https://experimentalsites.ed.gov. There will likely be some sort of official announcement posted as well.

ESI Team

I wanted everyone to know there may be some help coming! Through I'm not sure what they mean by Title IV schools?

[CenTexLyn]

http://www.nationalservice.gov/resou...award/title-iv

Seems at first blush to include most traditional educational institutions...

[Texasflower08]

That sounds good

[mssirois2u]

I've been following this REALLY close here's the latest email, I got last night! Its Coming!

For this experiment, the Title IV eligible postsecondary institution would partner with the penal institution and otherwise eligible incarcerated students at the partnering penal institution would be able to apply for Pell funding for attendance in the eligible program offered by the participating postsecondary institution.



Only incarcerated students from a penal institution that has partnered with one of the participating postsecondary institutions would be eligible.


The Department has not selected the postsecondary institutions that will be eligible to participate. That process is underway, and we hope to announce the selected schools within the next few weeks. Once announced, the schools selected will be posted to the Experimental Sites website: http://experimentalsites.ed.gov.

Not all incarcerated students will be eligible. Your son can only be considered if his penal institution has partnered with a Title IV postsecondary institution that is selected to participate in the experiment

[Darlazs]

That's awesome news!!!

[mssirois2u]

UGH, still waiting for the list! COME ON, any one else heard anything?

[mssirois2u]

Here's the E/mail I got this morning about the grants:

We are hoping to announce the schools that will be participating in the experiment sometime in mid-June. The Department has not finalized a date at this time though.

ESI Team

[mssirois2u]

Checked in on this again , they say their still saying June for the for the list, but end of June, UGH ! And it will be on there web site.

[mssirois2u]

IT'S here finally hoping this helps some of US:

https://www.ed.gov/news/press-releas...ivery&utm_term

[laffy]

Is Louisiana part of this program? If so, which schools are approved?

June 24, 2016 The Obama administration will give Pell grants to about 12,000 inmates in an effort to help them transition to life after prison — despite a law prohibiting inmates from receiving financial aid under the program.
The $30 million Second Chance Pell Grant program will be available to inmates at 141 state and federal correctional institutions, who will be able to use a federal Pell grant of up to $5,815 to pursue a two- or four-year degree from one of 67 approved colleges and universities.

[sass4221]

Institutions selected for participation in the Second Chance Pell experiment in the 2016-2017 award year

[laffy]

LOUISIANA NOT ON THIS LIST
Louisiana has the highest inmate population in the country but not included for these grants.
Louisiana also facing Corrections budget cuts including re-entry programs.
In Louisiana inmates are considered resources.

MUST READ
dated 2012 but situation still same if not worse
http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/...n_capital.html

[CenTexLyn]

Originally Posted by laffy

LOUISIANA NOT ON THIS LIST
Louisiana has the highest inmate population in the country but not included for these grants.
Louisiana also facing Corrections budget cuts including re-entry programs.
In Louisiana inmates are considered resources.

MUST READ
dated 2012 but situation still same if not worse
http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/...n_capital.html

What that tends to suggest is that the universities do not want to be involved. What schools in that State are actively offering in-facility programming to offenders? As I look at the list, many of the ones on there are programs that have long-standing affiliations with the agencies they serve (at least for Texas, this seemed to be the case save for a couple of programs I never heard of before).

It is somewhat ironic if this is the case though given that I know LSU does distance learning programs that include offenders...have some clients who were taking classes through their distance program.

[Imani]

The Obama administration selected 67 colleges and universities Thursday for the Second Chance Pell Pilot Program, an experiment to help prisoners earn an associate’s or bachelor’s degree while incarcerated. The schools will work with more than 100 federal and state penitentiaries to enroll inmates who qualify for Pell, a form of federal aid that covers tuition, books and fees for college students with financial need. Prisoners must be eligible for release within five years of enrolling in coursework.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...llege-classes/

[patchouli]

Louisiana is listed. One college, one facility.

But overall, I am disappointed. Many of the degrees are only Associates. Kentucky isn't listed...and we have some wonderful college & universities that ought to freak'n participate

[laffy]

Originally Posted by patchouli

Louisiana is listed. One college, one facility.

But overall, I am disappointed. Many of the degrees are only Associates. Kentucky isn't listed...and we have some wonderful college & universities that ought to freak'n participate

I don't know why i missed it
i was looking under states .. This is listed under TX
Thank you

[CenTexLyn]

Originally Posted by patchouli

Louisiana is listed. One college, one facility.

But overall, I am disappointed. Many of the degrees are only Associates. Kentucky isn't listed...and we have some wonderful college & universities that ought to freak'n participate

I am guessing that some of the decision by schools is based on the manner in which instruction has changed. Very few programs in brick-and-mortar facilities are even focusing on books and paper nowadays...many are computer-based in some form or another, which pretty much rules out the curriculum for use in a prison setting.

Even a decade ago, we were seeing schools that included the cost of a computer in the expected expenses incurred by the incoming freshman...never mind that the computer would be hopelessly outdated by the time graduation occurred but the school was still charging above-market prices for them.

[yourself]

I suspect that the emphasis on the AA/AS degree is for two reasons:

1. Obama and his administration have been pushing to have free college at the community college level, and this would thread in nicely with this initiative

2. they will get recidivism and employment statistics far more quickly than if they waited the full 4 years. This means that it's not a campaign issue the next time the Presidential elections roll around. If it bombs, then the next Democratic presidential candidate (assuming a Trump win, shudder) won't be saddled with bad stats. If it's successful, it'll be harder to cut it in 2 years no matter who wins, and it will be easier for the "free university" contingent to get more and more support for, well, free university, at least up to the community college level, and extend Pell to the 4 year level.

Now does it make even more sense?

Fwiw, there are colleges with established programs/relationships with prisons that are not on the list. Most of those colleges offer degree programs to inmates at already greatly reduced costs.

[Darlazs]

Originally Posted by mssirois2u

IT'S here finally hoping this helps some of US:

https://www.ed.gov/news/press-releas...ivery&utm_term

Thanks!!! You've been awesome on keeping me updated!!

[Darlazs]

For those not located at those specific prisons, will they be offered the PELL grant to use with colleges they are able to enroll in outside the prison?

[pinktazo]

Excellent- thank you for sharing!

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[trauma4us]

Just wanted to update this - my son rec'd his FAFSA back and was granted over 5K for education!

[mssirois2u]

Originally Posted by trauma4us

Just wanted to update this - my son rec'd his FAFSA back and was granted over 5K for education!

Did you go online and do it for him, what school and what state are you? I'm OK DOC and have been in a mad fight with them, about Langston Unv. NOT OK DOC or Langston have a clue, and don't know what the heck I'm talking about, can't even get transferred to a counselor. Call Ed dept of DOC and they say they won't be doing anything till SPRING!!! Any help would be great

[CenTexLyn]

Originally Posted by mssirois2u

Did you go online and do it for him, what school and what state are you? I'm OK DOC and have been in a mad fight with them, about Langston Unv. NOT OK DOC or Langston have a clue, and don't know what the heck I'm talking about, can't even get transferred to a counselor. Call Ed dept of DOC and they say they won't be doing anything till SPRING!!! Any help would be great

Where there is a new program (and the chart shows that Langston is new and has a target population of TEN), it takes time to develop policy and procedures. It would have been unreasonable for one to expect a school on a list just released to have been available for enrollments this semester.

[trauma4us]

No my son did everything himself from inside. He went thru education office at the prison.