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Old 07-08-2017, 03:18 AM
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Default Son @ ok county.looking at 85% of 15 yrs

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My son is being charged with robbery 1 and using an imitation weapon.
We are looking at a minimum 15 yrs and 85% must be served. The laws state, in the state penetentiary.
So does that mean he will definitely go to McAlister, if found guilty?
I am worried about him right now. Last we spoke, I had to give him The bad news of multiple charges being put on him. He seemed quietly confused and shocked. Now I haven't heard from him since and it's been well over a week. I've sent a package, a letter, put $ on his books, and not a call, it seems very strange. I've called and they say he is still in the same area, that is all.
I try to be encouraging to him, but worry he thinks I don't hurt for him, and I do, I have cried many tears, breaks my heart. I love him but I couldn't help him when he needed me most. He has a baby daughter that he loves and a baby momma that he is heartbroken over.
They have him as the third person in a two person cell, on the floor.
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Old 07-08-2017, 03:30 AM
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Also, I am a Christian and I do believe that God can make this all be for the good. Time is nothing to God. Our eternal life is much more important. And hopefully that many do find and turn to God in jail,prison.
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Old 07-08-2017, 04:54 AM
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I was incarcerated in Oklahoma for almost a decade, so I will see if I can help you here.

You asked, So does that mean he will definitely go to McAlister, if found guilty?

No, it does not. While the prison at McAlester is the only maximum security prison in Oklahoma, more guys with serious charges and long sentences are shipped to a medium security prison. The Oklahoma prison system has medium security facilities at Dick Conner at Hominy, at OSR in Granite, at James Crabtree in Enid, at Joseph Harp at Lexington, and Mack Alford at Stringtown.

The Oklahoma DOC has many more minimum security prisons than it has medium security prisons.

After classification, your son will most likely to be sent to a medium security prison. He will be classified at the Lexington Assessment and Reception center, and I doubt he will be classified with enough points to send him to the only maximum security prison in Oklahoma, Big Mac in McAlester.

He could also be sent to one of the several medium security prisons owned and operated by a private prison corporation.

I served time with a LOT of inmates with crimes much worse and with sentences much longer at a medium security prison. Since the prison at McAlester is always full to capacity, the Oklahoma DOC sends the overflow to one of the medium security prisons in the state. Joseph Harp is the best medium security prison, while Dick Conner or the prison at Granite is the worst.

Chances are that he will never see the inside of a maximum security prison, such as the one at McAlester. He more than likely will be sent to a medium security prison.

Hope this helps,

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Old 07-08-2017, 08:29 AM
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Thank you for the information on McAlister prison. From what I read online, it said, , to be served in the state penetentiary, so I assumed he had to go there.
Seems anywhere would be better than ok county.
Right now there must be some kitchen problem. They are serving the same thing every day,, oatmeal, bologna sandwich, chicken sandw. or burger. Every day. Also, the sleeping on the floor. And I get the idea of visiting through A TV screen. Not even bothering. Through glass would be much better.
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Old 07-22-2017, 11:03 AM
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All I can say is Pray, it's a hard road, but we've all been down it. You and He will make it , things will get easier once he starts moving around, and soon will be in his home yard. Always write keep money on his book's and the phone open, YOUR his outside voice! When in doubt just yell one of us can help with questions! Lord Hold mom's hand as she walks thru this, AMEN! From one mother to another. Big Hug!
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I was incarcerated in Oklahoma for almost a decade, so I will see if I can help you here.

You asked, So does that mean he will definitely go to McAlister, if found guilty?

No, it does not. While the prison at McAlester is the only maximum security prison in Oklahoma, more guys with serious charges and long sentences are shipped to a medium security prison. The Oklahoma prison system has medium security facilities at Dick Conner at Hominy, at OSR in Granite, at James Crabtree in Enid, at Joseph Harp at Lexington, and Mack Alford at Stringtown.

The Oklahoma DOC has many more minimum security prisons than it has medium security prisons.

After classification, your son will most likely to be sent to a medium security prison. He will be classified at the Lexington Assessment and Reception center, and I doubt he will be classified with enough points to send him to the only maximum security prison in Oklahoma, Big Mac in McAlester.

He could also be sent to one of the several medium security prisons owned and operated by a private prison corporation.

I served time with a LOT of inmates with crimes much worse and with sentences much longer at a medium security prison. Since the prison at McAlester is always full to capacity, the Oklahoma DOC sends the overflow to one of the medium security prisons in the state. Joseph Harp is the best medium security prison, while Dick Conner or the prison at Granite is the worst.

Chances are that he will never see the inside of a maximum security prison, such as the one at McAlester. He more than likely will be sent to a medium security prison.

Hope this helps,

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What makes Joseph Harp the best?
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Old 08-19-2017, 08:00 AM
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Been to Joe harp, med side, it's pretty nice for a prison, but the fact remains its still a prison with rules etc, you can have your l/o pre pay for ice cream and get some while your the visiting, lol canteen is the same, high, its OK clean for the most part. I didn't have any problems when I went if you have Kiddos going they do have one of the biggest area's for kids, with lots of nice games to pay, books, and movies too
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This is an old thread and I just saw your post. My husband got 15 years at 85% which means he serves 12 with good behavior. We have three years left. We've had experience with 4 minimum and medium yards. Anywhere IS better than OK county. Keep in prayer for your son. Prison absolutely saved my husbands life and I believe God has a purpose for his journey. Love and peace to you. I'm living proof you can get through it.
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Get this out to families!!!! This is big they will love you for helping them know this . Here is a copy paste Dear Rep. Bob Clevland, A Bobbie battle like class action suit is climbing over the Oklahoma prison walls. I am writing you from Texas and am active in helping get fairness. I aim to give you a tool to win your fight for change in the 85% clause. You did not have this tool because it did not exist at the time you took it to the floor. You will now have the tool to address the 85% agenda getting the results wish to achieve. All I ask in return is that you use Daniel Cuttill and his case as an example. He has a team of outsiders here in Texas and Oklahoma that are gathering much and considering doing a Bobbie Battle move. We just aim to end the hidden new cruel unusual punishment. We thought to reach out to you for help. You see when Govoner Mary instructed (UNDER LAW) the Oklahoma department of corrections to adopt her new measure to allow 85%ers to "EARN" good time credits that became your foothold. Under the new change and law, this is now cruel punishment to them. I will explain.here. You see before they adopted the measure 85%ers were not allowed to "EARN" good time credits. Now they begin to "EARN" credits while serving the 85% but their EARNINGS are NOT paid until the 85% mark. At that 85% mark, they will have OVER EARNED their release. If the state is going to recognize each EARNED credit as a day served so shall we. This means at the 85% mark many inmates will have served 100s and 1000s of days over the court order. sentence. This is unjust cruel and unusual punishment. We aim for fairness for Daniel Cuttill and all 85%ers. Please do NOT force the INAME to do more time than sentenced. Under the measure, adopted 85%ers are doing just that. I will give you an example. Let's use Daniel Cuttill. as an example. He has a 5 year 85% sentence. If he is a level 2 the whole time of his 4.4 years this is 85% of 5 years. He will EARN 22 days for each month. At his 85% mark, he will have EARNED 1,144 credits that is equal to days served. He will only need a portion of that for a full release. This meaning he has been held up to 40 percent longer than ordered. Even though it is the law to not issue credits till 85% is complete no matter how you look at it this is an unjust law now over earning release. I open you will use this. Daniel has already sent the word out to the many inmates in the prisons. Families and voters agree with us. Many of us here in Texas are spending hours each week contacting families of 85%ers. We hope to locate each and every one urging them to bill the state for each day over EARNED and spent behind bars. Many of the inmates are also reporting unsafe conditions due to lack of security. Many say they are tired of being injured due to fights. This I am sure racks up the infirmary bill annually. Those funds are better spent on more guards to prevent more riots. There would be less fighting if they were to tell the 85%ers they will get their EARNED credits in a timely fashion so they don't over earn their release. Many inmates will then take part in the classes for reform and change. They also report getting sick often due to poor nutrition and unsanitary conditions and poor access to chapel and law library. We are looking at civil and many agencies for help but thought you would be the best first place to start. I am moving to Oklahoma for the fight for Daniel to give him a home there. I will be your newest voter and will move for you at the election because I believe you will use this to bring change before Daniel Cuttill and others do time unjustly opening the door for poor civil suites that will cost them more money than they will save if they don't do what is fair. Your Welcome I hope this helps you. Thank you for all that you do now you have a tool to finish what you started go get em bud !!!! If you know anyone doing 85 % get started in action
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Get this out to families!!!! This is big they will love you for helping them know this . Here is a copy paste Dear Rep. Bob Clevland, A Bobbie battle like class action suit is climbing over the Oklahoma prison walls. I am writing you from Texas and am active in helping get fairness. I aim to give you a tool to win your fight for change in the 85% clause. You did not have this tool because it did not exist at the time you took it to the floor. You will now have the tool to address the 85% agenda getting the results wish to achieve. All I ask in return is that you use Daniel Cuttill and his case as an example. He has a team of outsiders here in Texas and Oklahoma that are gathering much and considering doing a Bobbie Battle move. We just aim to end the hidden new cruel unusual punishment. We thought to reach out to you for help. You see when Govoner Mary instructed (UNDER LAW) the Oklahoma department of corrections to adopt her new measure to allow 85%ers to "EARN" good time credits that became your foothold. Under the new change and law, this is now cruel punishment to them. I will explain.here. You see before they adopted the measure 85%ers were not allowed to "EARN" good time credits. Now they begin to "EARN" credits while serving the 85% but their EARNINGS are NOT paid until the 85% mark. At that 85% mark, they will have OVER EARNED their release. If the state is going to recognize each EARNED credit as a day served so shall we. This means at the 85% mark many inmates will have served 100s and 1000s of days over the court order. sentence. This is unjust cruel and unusual punishment. We aim for fairness for Daniel Cuttill and all 85%ers. Please do NOT force the INAME to do more time than sentenced. Under the measure, adopted 85%ers are doing just that. I will give you an example. Let's use Daniel Cuttill. as an example. He has a 5 year 85% sentence. If he is a level 2 the whole time of his 4.4 years this is 85% of 5 years. He will EARN 22 days for each month. At his 85% mark, he will have EARNED 1,144 credits that is equal to days served. He will only need a portion of that for a full release. This meaning he has been held up to 40 percent longer than ordered. Even though it is the law to not issue credits till 85% is complete no matter how you look at it this is an unjust law now over earning release. I open you will use this. Daniel has already sent the word out to the many inmates in the prisons. Families and voters agree with us. Many of us here in Texas are spending hours each week contacting families of 85%ers. We hope to locate each and every one urging them to bill the state for each day over EARNED and spent behind bars. Many of the inmates are also reporting unsafe conditions due to lack of security. Many say they are tired of being injured due to fights. This I am sure racks up the infirmary bill annually. Those funds are better spent on more guards to prevent more riots. There would be less fighting if they were to tell the 85%ers they will get their EARNED credits in a timely fashion so they don't over earn their release. Many inmates will then take part in the classes for reform and change. They also report getting sick often due to poor nutrition and unsanitary conditions and poor access to chapel and law library. We are looking at civil and many agencies for help but thought you would be the best first place to start. I am moving to Oklahoma for the fight for Daniel to give him a home there. I will be your newest voter and will move for you at the election because I believe you will use this to bring change before Daniel Cuttill and others do time unjustly opening the door for poor civil suites that will cost them more money than they will save if they don't do what is fair. Your Welcome I hope this helps you. Thank you for all that you do now you have a tool to finish what you started go get em bud !!!! If you know anyone doing 85 % get started in action
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