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Old 08-06-2003, 10:18 PM
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I just wanted to say thank you for all the information.
I have not been able to visit my husband yet, but I am hoping to be cleared soon. You have all given me some good advice on visitation conduct. I hope I do well when the time comes...............
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Ok, here goes....

I just came back from 4 days of visiting.... None of this involved me - but I witnessed it so I am passing it on...

Saturday afternoon... Extra CO's - gloves, camera, clipboards... Two Prisoners have been smuggling drugs through the visiting room for months apparently and they just finally caught them red handed... did not witness who they were as everything was as normal in the visiting room and they were caught while 'dressing out' from the visit... I got the most of the scuttlebutt the next day from my Partner.

What happened? Who knows, but I can bet my last dollar that whoever was visiting these two guys have lost their visits and the Prisoners are in the hole - for who knows how long.

Second scenario is a little less devastating, but ended in terminated visits none the less...

A wife of one Prisoner was standing 'near' the vending machine. Another Prisoner and visitor moved forward and put money in and selected something... The Prisoner to the woman standing 'near' the vending machine stepped up and accused the other Prisoner of disrespecting his wife by stepping in front of her... There was an apology but it was received with a response that could only be considered a racial slur... A CO was nearby and overheard and they were all immediately removed. No violence, no distraction, just a quiet few words was all it took... inappropriate words.

Now, I don't know what happened to the woman that was apparently wronged by this action but I did see the woman of the other Prisoner return Sunday morning and was refused a visit. She tried to sign in and was told that she could not visit. So this obviously ended in lost visits for probably both Prisoners.

I guess why I am passing this information on - it is hearsay and from observation, not first hand experience - is because it is obvious to me as time goes on in my relationship with the system - it does not take all that much to lose a visit. What may seem trivial now, may not be when you lose your privilege to visit.
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Wow!! Your speaking of Leavenworth USP, right?
If so, I am on my way back down there in a few weeks.. I better watch myself, as usual. Thanks for sharing!
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Old 08-12-2003, 06:27 PM
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I HAVE BEEN VISITING MY HUSBAND FOR 10 YEARS AND WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY REAL PROBLEMS WITH C/O'S. ONLY ONCE DO I RECALL A C/O SAYING ANYTHING TO US ,THAT WAS BECAUSE WE WERE SITTING OPPOSITE DIRECTIONS ON A PICNIC BENCH. THE C/O JUST WALKED OVER TO US AND IN A QUIET VOICE SAID THAT ONE OF US MUST TURN AROUND. HE WASN'T DISRESPECTIABLE, HE EVEN STAYED AROUND FOR CONVERSATION SO OTHERS WOULDN'T KNOW HE SAID ANYTHING. WE WALK AROUND A LOT, AND WE HAVE OUR ARMS AROUND EACH OTHER MOST ALL THE TIME.WE LAUGH AND SMILE SO MUCH THAT I GUESS THE C/O'S DON'T HAVE THE HEART TO SAY ANYTHING.OR WE MOVE AROUND SO MUCH THAT THEY CAN'T KEEP UP WITH US... WE LOVE EACH OTHER AND IT SHOWS TO EVERYONE IN THE ROOM. MAYBE GOD IS SMILING DOWN ON US!!!! I HAVE HAD NO PROBLEMS GETTING IN FOR THE VISIT. A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO A LADY C/O WAS IN A SUPER BAD MOOD. SHE WAS TAKING VISITORS OUT OF THE VISITING ROOM TO THE BATHROOM AND TOLD THEM TO JUST LOOK AT THEIR SELF IN THE MIRROR. SHE TOLD ONE VISITOR THAT SHE COULD SEE HER THONGS, THE VISITOR TOLD HER THEN SHE MUST BE GOOD BECAUSE SHE DID NOT HAVE THONGS ON!!!! PHONE CALLS WENT IN TO THE WARDEN ABOUT THE C/O, GUESS WHAT? THE C/O WAS TAKEN OUT OF VISITING.. MAINLY BECAUSE SHE WAS HATEFUL TO AN ELDERLY LADY. SHE WAS OK WITH ME BUT MY HUSBAND IS THE WARDEN'S RUNNER, SO I GUESS SHE THOUGHT BETTER OF MESSING WITH ME. I TRY TO BE NICE TO EVERYONE, SMILE , AND GO ON TO OUR VISIT. MY WHOLE WORLD IS IN THERE, SO I RESPECT THEIR RULES AND ABIDE BY THEM BEST THAT I CAN. I QUICKLY APOLIGISE FOR ANYTHING THEY DEEM AS WRONG.MOST OF THE C/O'S KNOW ME BY NAME.... MY BEST ADVISE........KEEP A GOOD ATTITUDE AND TRY TO BE AWARE OF WHAT YOUR DOING. AVOID CONFLICT AT ALL COSTS.OVER TIME YOU WILL EARN THE RESPECT OF THE C/O'S, &OTHER VISITORS. GOD BE WITH YOU ALL THROUGH YOUR VISITS . ALWAYS HAVE A SMILE IN YOUR TEARS!! SUE
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Man, Hiswife, you are lucky, in Texas there is NO moving anywhere. You are told where to sit. The check in guard Cussed the "Air", I guess, while she was checking my car in for my visit on Sunday. Her relief was not walking to his post quickly enough. She was all palsied shaking; her hands couldn't even write. Really bad attitude to the visitor - Me. I did not park correctly. Poor lady, I felt bad for her and her causing her own problems with her attitude. But she is the "Authority" and we have to follow her rules.

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Old 08-13-2003, 05:25 PM
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HONEY, YOU KNOW I'VE ONLY JUST THOUGHT MY BABY AND I HAD IT ROUGH. AS I READ LETTERS FROM SO MANY PEOPLE THAT HAVE REALLY SUFFERED FROM THE SYSTEM, I AM GRATEFUL FOR THE THINGS WE ARE ABLE TO DO.THE PRISON I VISIT IS NOT TOO BAD, BUT THE C/O'S DO HAVE THEIR DAY'S WHEN THEY LOOK FOR SOMEONE TO MESS WITH. IT'S A LONG PROCESS JUST TO GET INSIDE THE CAMP, SO I TRY TO KEEP MY ATTITUDE IN CHECK. IF I'VE LEARNED ANYTHING IN 10 YEARS IT WOULD BE THESE TWO THINGS......PATIENCE AND THE C/O'S ARE ALWAYS RIGHT!!!! OUR VISITS ARE FOR 6 HOURS, AND WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME MOVING AROUND. WALKING, TALKING, EATING, AND LAUGHING.I FEEL FORTUNATE JUST TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. I CAN'T IMAGINE HAVING TO DO SOME OF THE THINGS I'VE READ ABOUT... THE REAL BIGGY AT OUR CAMP IS INMATES HANDLING MONEY.. AND THE VISITORS PANTS MUST TOUCH THEIR ANKLE. BUT THEN YOU HAVE THE BRAND NEW GUNG HO C/O'S COME IN AND WATCH OUT!!! THEY WILL LOOK FOR SOMETHING TO GET YOU FOR. SUE
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Old 08-17-2003, 11:34 AM
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I think this one is crazy but, I'll share it with you guys......my friend went to visit her brother and she was wearing a button down shirt, well she got stung by a bee on her shoulder and without thinking she unbuttoned the first couple of buttons and pushed the shirt off her shoulder exposing her shoulder and bra strap, well she had co's on her in no time flat and was escorted away, they never asked her is she was okay just said she was flashing half of the visiting yard. She lost her visits for 6 months and this was her brother.
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Ha nice of them to at least ask if she was okay!

I had a friend named Sheila that was only 17 at the time and she obviously wouldnt be allowed to go visit her boyfriend in prison. (he was 25 or so...) Anyway, sheila went up to the prison with his sister Linda (over a 4 hour drive) and said that she was his step-sister. (Mind you, Linda was 23 years old, married with two kids.) They denied sheila a visit because her parent/guardian was not present and told Linda to go drop her off at the nearest store for the duration of the visit because she could not stay on the property if she was not visiting.

Linda asked the man at the gate where the nearest store was and he politely asked why. She told him what the CO had said and he refused to let Linda take her to a store. (The nearest one was 26 miles away!!) So he offered to have sheila stay at the check-in booth with him while Linda went to visit her brother. My friend told me that she stayed with him for about 15 minutes before Linda came back down to the gate in her car and told her that her brother threw a fit in the visiting room...saying that they wouldnt let his little "sister" in to visit him.

The CO called the head CO for visiting out and he was explained the situation. After some words with the check-in CO for visiting, sheila was allowed in for a visit. Turns out, there is a rule at the prison down there that any minor must be accompanied by a parent/guardian.....UNLESS accompanied by a sibling over the age of 22.

Needless to say, the check in CO got in some major trouble. Apparently a write up and all....
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I've only gotten to visit my son twice and both times everything went very well. He knew the rules and, let me know right away what they were. He was not allowed to move from his chair so my other son and I got him popcorn and pizza's from the vending machine. But, on my last visit, my Daughter-in-Law took me and they made here change a tank top under her shirt because they could see it was one with the cross straps in back. My older son once wore the wrong colors but, they gave him another shirt to wear for the visit. Chad also makes sure he treats the guards with total respect. He hates it but, he says it's important that he is always allowed these visits. I've really learned a lot here and now I understand why it is so important to follow the rules. I didn't know he could get into trouble if I screwed up. Great thread!
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Several years ago when I use to visit at NSP at Carson City Nevada I would ride share with a gal who eventually became one of my dearest friends. We pulled up one day and they were doing a random search in the parking lot of visitors vehicles. These searches would infringe on up to an hour of your visiting time. An hour which was precious to us as you all well know. To make a long story short and to avoid the search process we opted to drive a few miles away where there was a Hotel/Casino, park the car and have a cab drop us off at the prison. This worked great...we got right in..patting ourselves on the back for our cleverness. Until the next week when they decided to get back at us. We arrived and entered the visiting area as usual. Met our guys and proceeded with our visits. About an hour in to the visit they pulled us both out , Took her outside and me to an office where they're were' alledged" DEA officers awaiting me...after several minutes of questioning I was informed they had been informed ny a "reliable imformant" that I was smuggeling contraband in to the institution that day...my reply was "I suggest you re-evaluate who you consider to be an "reliable" informant...I know how the snitch system works and I refused to be a part of that system"..I informed them that I was more than happy to submit to a strip search and I was more than happy to submit to a cavity searc however, under that condition I demand my attorney and my private phsician be present." They backed off fast...then took me outside to where my friend was waiting at her car...they detained us both there awaiting a narcotics dog..when the dog arrived they just knew they would find something..the dog sniffed the entire vehicle and found nothing that interested it...the funny part was it kept taking off and sniffing one of their state vehicles..they kept bringing it back to our car but it wasn't interested in it at all. Anyway....the week before we were so giddy with ourselves that we'd beat them at their game but they found a way to ruin our visit another day as by the time we were cleared and allowed back in to the visiting room the majority of our time was up. So be careful out there...they're sneaky ones!

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One more thing I want to aded to this story is this...what was really the kicker about the entire ordeal as that my friend who I rode with and I would carry ourselves exceptionally well. We never infringed upon any of the visitation rules and policies. We always carried ourselves professionally and with dignity and had earned much respect from the regular CO's in the visiting room. And while we were visiting with our tact and class contraband was so obviously being distrubuted by others abundantly around us. I was informed later on by a CO who's respect I had earned that the actuality of the story was that because of the way I carried myself I had been targeted by the "heavy's" behind the walls that we visitors never see as a mule. My father also had great political connections. I was a perfect target for a mule for them. And because my guy wouldn't subject me to their demands they put the heat on me. This unfortunately is also what led to the demise of our relationship and his transfer to a distant facility. He is out now...after searving 23 years on a life sentence. Our lives have lead each of us in different directions but I have had the opportunity to see him a few times since his release almost 2 years ago. I will never regret how knowing him enlightened me and gave me the ghusto to be the woman I have become today. I am politically motivated and thrive on a good battle. People come in to our lives for a reason. What we do with that reason is entirely up to us.

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I was asked to break a rule my baby but i refused. He still has some growing up to do.

NEway, Mysister and I go to the same prison to visit different people. We ask if we could sit together and was told by the guard at the gate that they would try. We go in and find that we are on different sides of the visiting area. OK After an hour or so my baby wants to change seats. I'm already on the other side getting snacks. He changers seats and tell the CO there are ants where we are and she said it was OK to move but that we better look out for the captain because she heard another CO say that we were supposed to be kept apart for reasons unknown to any of us. We did not see the captain come in and he made us move back to where we were supposed to be. He states that if we try something like that again we would lose our visits and that we should be thankful he did not terminate this visit on the spot.

The CO did not get in trouble but she looked at my baby like I told you to watch for him (captain).

I have only been to visit a few times thus far but I am starting to realize that it really depends on who is on duty and how tegy feel about you or your honey.

I for one plan to follow all rules. I really feel for everyone whom have went so far to a visit only to be turned away. And when it is not your fault that is even worse. I'm living and I'm learning. It is still beyond me why they would take such measures to take away the happiness of others.

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I had my visits suspended for 6 months but not for any disciplinary actions, my man was upset with me and decided to teach me a lesson and took me off, he thought he could put me right back on, yeah right, he appealed it and it was denied. Its the worst thing to go through not being able to see the one you love, well im back on now and we had our first visit this past weekend and it was wonderful. I dont think he will ever do that again. He also suffered. But everything is all good again and I can see my man. 6 months seemed like a lifetime.
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WOW... this has made me realize a few things. one being you can never be to carefull and the other being the visitation room where I go is pretty good. I have always said that the CO's there are very nice. If we get to confortable in our conversation and don't realize our knees are touching they just remind us. They walk around and remind more people rather then be mean or rude. Most of the time they give us that look of I know it's stupid, but its the rules. One time on my second visit we did have a female CO tell us that out kiss was to long. She actually timed us. It was at the end so everyone was kissing everyone. I still think she had us targeted. She's the only visiting officer that wont smile or speak to us. All the others get along with us just fine. I try to flatter myself and say she is jealous and wants what she cant have.
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Oh lord,..let's talk about Phillips here in Georgia! My honey is one of the "model inmates" and we've gained the respect of many of the CO's and the LT's as well as the Wardens, Chaplain and so we're pretty comfortable during our visitations. We obey the rules and remember that discretion is the key. Many times have the co's actually waved at us as they passed by if we were sitting too close, or touchy. But we do bend the rules a bit and this weekend was a little too close for comfort. Many of the CO's let David and I sit next to each other instead of across, but there was a new LT on duty this weekend, and she moved me back across from him. I came in the next day, didn't know she was on duty again, and moved chairs so that I could sit next to him. She saw me, and that got our CO in trouble,.. he said something to my honey as he came through the shakedown room and was disappointed in me. I was pouty for a minute, and then went to him and apologized. I said I was sorry for putting him in a compromising position, because he'd never been anything but good to us. That turned out to be a very good move, because he mentioned it to my honey later. "That's a good woman you got there,... she's got respect,.. even when she is being bad!" So,.. my point is??? Be respectful, and say you're sorry when you do something wrong... it will pay off in the end! My best to all of you, and yours..
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My granddaughter who is 7 now the first visit of warm weather she had on a tank top and she was told she could not go in with that top on. A seven year old give me a break. Thank goodness she is one that carries a bag with her all the time and had an extra top. They will do anything they can to stop visits.
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I'm still learning all the Do's & Don'ts but I truely do understand why they put a 3-6 second kiss rule in affect, and limit contact to hand-holding. It has been very hard to not accidently just start tastefully scratching his back or rubbing a sore shoulder (outside of clothing) when he has been "MINE" all these years and I am not used to hands off. It was never about trying to get away with anything and/or intimacy but honestly forgetting that he/she belongs to them for now. Fortunately for us the CO's in visiting have been very fair but I felt so weird after being "scolded" kind of like when I was in grade school! I personally wouldn't risk a quick touch for my right to visit..

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Thank y'all for sharing, I never really thought of being cautious when I visit my baby at Jackson GDCP, most of the C/Os r cool, although we have been warned several times to stop hugging, holding hands,being too close or for sitting right under the camera...for obvious reasons

I have been sent away because the female C/O could see
"everything" thru the slip and dress, wow I wish my eyesight was that good! I didnt want to waste time arguing or waiting on the serge on duty so i changed in my car, luckily i always have a pr of jeans and tshirts in the backseat so i didnt have to go looking 4 the nearest wal-mart!
Funny enough , one lady had a black all lace top, i could see her skin and outline of her black bra, now I could see everything!! she had a coat on but the same
C/O didnt say a thing to her when she took off the coat to have it checked....hmmm

One girl was suspended because after the visit she had a hicky on her neck. Just like Lysbeth said, its the choices we make sometimes that make some of us lose visits..I will be more careful tomorrow when i go see my baby, thanx to PTO
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I thought of another no no in the Missouri Prison systems . Never argue with a CO in a visiting room or they will call your loved one into the back room and give him a lecture about how his company should act. My daughter in law got into a discussion about which one of her kids she should leave at home since my son and her have five kids and that would make 6 visitors and they only allow 4. Hard decision to make. they had always let her take all of them with her . She had to turn around and go home there was too many of them there.
She drove 2 1/2 hours with five kids and did not get to go that often . There was inmates that was having 8 visits a month . My son did good to have two.
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Also When my son was in Cameron prison in Missouri there was a family that traveled 8 hours to visit and waited five hours to be told they could not visit Visiting hours were over. I think that is one time I would have talked to everyone up the ladder and then wrote the parole board about it. They were awful at that prison they had so many inmates over the quota that they were over crowded on visiting days. In some ways I felt sorry for the guards. They should have limited the visits like they do at the prison he is in now. two a month per prisoner.
I get to go and see my son tomorrow. Yeah it has been a while.
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Flygirlaaa22,
I takled to my son as I visited him today and was telling him about your visit with your man that was terminated because you had handled medicine and money and he said they use to have that same machine in Cameron , Missouri prison and there was a big law suit over it . Then got rid of the machine and it is not used in any Missouri Prisons. The machines use was to read the air not peoples hands and swabs of their hands. Might give this some thought . The man they refused that started the law suit was an older man who also took medicine.
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Well I had my visit today. I must say that we had a great time! Although, like always, we got reprimanded for kissing during the visit but they let it slide because it was our first time in the visiting room in that partiular prison (he recently got moved to Missouri Eastern Correctional Center - Pacific.) It was so great seeing him. I was in tears when I left, I didn't even get out of the building and I was already missing him. I know I'll see him again soon and thanks for all the support from here, I really appreciate having someone that I can go to and talk to when I need it.
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HI Missing My Teddy.
Normally I don't trip off hearing little things like what you shared today but I know I'll be there soon, having my first visit with my Miguel and its warming to read of someone elses visit. We are interested and feeing you. I can only encourage you to share as its a reminder to us all that we do have one another here on PTO to talk with.
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Old 10-22-2003, 04:25 PM
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Me and my fiance didn't even attempt to hug on our very 1st visit. We waited to see what the majority did before we started to do anything. At one point he put his head on my shoulder, and we were warned that's not allowed. I'm always careful on every visit. He told me last week that a guy that was on a visit the last time we were there was asking him to testify on his behalf because his visits were about to be terminated for an inappropriate touching during his goodbye. I guess I'll find out the verdict this Sunday.
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I'm kinda unnerved right now...Yesterday we were visiting and he took my hand (allowed) and put it on his thigh (also apparently allowed) and, uh, lets just say all of a sudden I was feeling something I had never yet felt. And wow, it did feel nice (evil grin). But now I'm worried that although nothing was said, no reaction at the time (we were subtle) he might have suffered consequences later...YEEK. And of course I won't know till I go there again. How do y'all stand this torture? Please, I know I am badly behaved but hey...I was already in love, nowI am also impressed.
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