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Old 08-23-2004, 12:10 PM
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Well, the answer is for the inmate to ask his prison case worker the question. Otherwise, I don't know of any agreement or inmate transfer agreement between states. Good luck.
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Hey guys,
Things are looking good at this point. Papers should be at Interstate Headquarters sometime this morning. The R.O. was very helpful. Since my husband had employment waiting on him there, he said we did qualify for an emergency transfer. We got back yesterday and my hubby checked in and the P.O. did the paperwork right there.:0 From what we understand the only thing that will keep him from leaving this week is if the other state says no. But we are keeping our heads up. We have come this far....I will let you know as soon as we hear if he is getting reporting instructions!
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searcher....thanks so much far all your help
my husband was released in kansas 7/28/04
his temp po sent in the ic request to missouri 8/1
i still haven't heard a word...nor has his perpective employer
who can only hold the job open so long
a $15 an hr job for parolee's are few and far inbetween
and his employer is losing money waiting on him
somewhere in the new interstate compact it states that if the sending state releases the parolee to the receiving state....(i'm assuming on a furlow or something) that the receiving state has no choice but to take juristiction over the parolee if an ic has been apply for...... could ya clear that up for me....
my husband has only a year parole if he doesn't violate
but still i'm suporrting us and the kids....we need the income.....but we also need him home....you aught to see the honey do list....lol
who and how do i put the squeeze on the situation
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Go to this web site PAGE 24 http://www.adultcompact.org/about/hi...l_03-12-04.pdf

and read section 3.103, this covers your questions. Good Luck

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My boyfriend was sentenced while he lived in Colorado. HE is serving his time in a federal prison in California where I live and where we met. He was supposed to get released to Colorado after his sentence in March 2005, but wants to try to release here in California. He says it is completely up to his Probation officer to allow him to release here in California. He says he has been talking to his PO who lives in Colorado and that he should be able to release here if he can show that he will be able to be employed here. He also said that she wants him to have some savings set up for back up (such as if he were to get fired) for when he is released. Is this a common request for a PO, to suggest having savings set up? Also, is everything here that I stated that he told me possilby true, or is any of it an obvious lie? If I were to contact his PO, would she be able to give me any info such as confirming the requests she has for him or would she need his consent?
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I'm not to familiar with the Federal system (except to know I would'nt want to be a Federal PO and that the basic concept is the same as states). It's not unsual for ANY PO to demand a good case plan before they ok a move. Are you aksing me if your man might be lying or the PO?
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yes, i'm asking if my man might be lying. We haven't been talking but for a few months, so I'm still working on establishing trust. Thanks for your response.
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The Feds will allow an inmate to be paroled (if accepted for parole) to any state in Federal Jurisidiction as long as the have a release plan. This means a place to live (thats acceptable) usually this means with family or a other related support network, POTENTIAL for employment (there is no unrealistic rule they HAVE to have a job before they get released and basically an acceptable logical reason to to released to a certain community.
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Hi Searcher,

My husband is due to be released the end of December of this year. I live in Georgia and he lives in Virginia. He wants to transfer to Georgia. His counselor put in his Interstate Compact Paperwork in July but we were told it was to early. His counselor continued to call to get a confirmation that they received it. They confirmed they received it. His counselor told me to call and check and he would too because they didn't hadn't heard anything. I called and finally the woman his counselor referred me to said she got my husband's form but it was the wrong form. Needless to say I contacted his counselor and he got right on and resubmitted the right form. I called the woman whom his counselor told me to contact and to whom he sent the form to and she never picked up or called me back.

I ended up sending her and email and cc: the Interstate Compact people and she responded and said, " I HAVE THE FORM BUT IT HAS NOT BEEN PROCESSED YET. IT WILL BE SENT TO THE PROBATION/ PAROLE OFFICE SOON." She then called me and told me she didn't have time to keep answering emails and that her department was doing the Interstate Compact People a favor. She said he may not get his paperwork processed on time and he may have to stay an extra 30days. I told her that his counsoler resubmitted the paperwork about 117 days before my husbands release but, but she said she had others to process. Then she said that she didn't have all the paperwork she needed from his counselor and that she was going to send him more forms to fill out.
She said that they are in the process of training all the facility counselor's in Virginia on filling out the proper paperwork. She said that there are other forms that need to be filled out and since there is a shortage in the department she don't know how long it will take to process my husbands paperwork. She said she has to process others who are getting out today and tomorrow.

She said she didn't know my husband and didn't know anything about him. She wanted to know what his crime was. So I told her what the crime was and she said that maybe since his crime wasn't violent he might be able to get a travel permit to come to Georgia and get a probation officer when he comes to Georgia. Then she said that they mAre there more forms to fill out besides the request for the Interstate Compact? Also, do you know what we could do regarding this? I found it interesting that she called and told me this but didn't put it in her email. I did email his counselor back to let him know what she said to me. Hopefully I will hear something. He said they have a habit of losing paperwork or not keeping it up. Does this sound right.
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I would email the Interstate Compact Administrator (as of the 8-1-2004 newly signed compact every state must have one) . Yes, there are many more forms than just the compact request form. Check the web site (posted here many times)and click forms on the main page to see them all. The sending state can take all the time they need (up to the max sentence date if there is one) preparing the packet to send, this would include losing paper or being lazy. The recieving state is the one with a time limit to investigate and deny or accept. However it is the sending state that should be pressuring the recieving state if they are slow. A non DOC person has nothing to do with the process as far as the compact agreement goes soa loved one trying to rush a recieving state might not be a good idea (just throwing that in the mix), but I have some thoughts on how to actually do this safely.

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Thank you for responding to me. It's the sending state that I was wondering about. I didn't contact the receiving state. I will contact the Interstate Compact Administrator for Virginia. The woman I talked to worked for another department and she told me she was doing it as a favor for the Interstate Compact Department. I wanted to know who prepares the packet? Since they can take all the time they want, would they allow him to be released to his parents house if they live in the sending state, while he is waiting for an answer?
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I imagine they would release him to any approved in state home, pending acceptance through the Interstate Compact. As for who prepares the paperwork, if the requestor is out on Parole or Probation the supervising officer does. While still inside I would guess not every state is the same but perhaps either a IPO (Instatutional Probation Officer), Classification Officer or perhaps a prison caseworker.
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HELLO THERE SEARCHER,
Firts let me congratulate you on becoming part of a very important process and I can already see that you are very knowledgeable and will be able to help many people regarding this new Interstate Compact agreement. I reside in NYC and have always lived here and my husband is encarcerated in California. I was wondering if this agreement you are talking about deals with transfering inmates to the city where their family resides until they can finish their sentence. Can that be done? If not, do you have any idea how I can get some information about transfers???
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The Intersate Compact only covers transfers of community corrections clients (Probation and Parole). I'm not aware of any states that transfer inmates from state to state other than for security reasons.
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Thank you very much. You have been so helpful. Kudos to you.
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Below is a chronological order of my only and current problems. My two big questions from all of this is; One, how long from start to finish, (in an emergency request) should an interstate compact agreement take? Two, can these people be held responsible for their lack/mis actions?

On 2-19-04, I was arrested on a felony warrant charge of failure to pay child support. On May 12th, 2004 I was sentenced by Judge xxxxxxxxxxx of the xxxxxxCount, Indiana, Circuit Court, to an eight year sentence, to be executed as follows; 1 year executed, with credit for 83 actual days, (166 credit days), leaving 97 more actual days (194 credit days) to serve. Providing, I abide by all conditions of probation. I would be on probation for a period of 84 months, (7 years). This outdate (from incarceration) in this case only, would be August 17th, 2004. This all would, of course, hinge on good credit time, (no problems with my incarceration/behavior). There was no bad/behavior time taken away. The cause no. in this felony case is xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.

On 2-27-04, I was served warrants for contempt in both the xxxxxxxx Circuit and Superior Courts, at 10:19 p.m. at the xxxxxxxx County Jail, by Lt. xxxx xxxxx. An execution of a suspended sentences under cause no. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, in Circuit Court and cause no. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, in Superior Court. Circuit Court was a suspended sentence of 180 days to be executed upon my arrest/service of warrant. This would put my out date in this case only, on August 25th, 2004. I received a sentence of 140 days for said contempt in the xxxxxxxx Superior Court. This would put my outdate for that sentence on July 16th, 2004. Both warrants were served by Lt. xxxxxxxxxx on 2-27-04, at 10:19 p.m.. As that being my date to execute both sentences, that would calculate to my aforementioned outdates.

On the date of May 12th, 2004, I was also ordered to pay several fines/fees. They were all paid in a matter of weeks, even though I was in jail. On May 19th, 2004, a $75.00 interstate compact fee was paid to the Clerk of xxxxxxx County. I live in xxxxxxxx, Michigan. I was told and it was documented that if I was accepted back to Michigan, this would take 30-45 days max. My paperwork for this Interstate Compact Agreement was not even mailed to the Compact office in Indianapolis, until July 20th (as stated by the Probation Officer). I was due to get out of jail on August 25th, 2004, with no permission to go back home, (again, I live in xxxxxxxxx, Michigan), my conditions of probation state I can report only to my residence of record, (xxxxxxxxx, Michigan), but I can not leave the state of Indiana. My conditions of probation also state that I must retain gainful employment, pay my court ordered support and arrearages and my fines or fees. I am a resident of the State of Michigan, my house is there and there I will eventually return. However, at this time, I have no confirmation of being able to legally leave Indiana and return to Michigan, my home. I was held in jail five (5) days past my actual outdate of August 25th, 2004, one (1) day past Judge xxxxxxxxxxx's letter (dated August 2, 2004) stating my out date as around August 29th, 2004, and not released from jail until after 5:00 p.m. on August 30th, 2004.

I had 72 hours to report to probation after my release and by the 12th day of each successive month. I was going to report on Sept. 2nd, 2004, and save a $25.00 fee for the month of August and report within the 72 hours AND by the 12th of each month (Sept) and tend to two matters at one time. I was told I couldn't do that (I had to pay for August also). Again, I live in xxxxxxxxx, Michigan and I was just released from jail after a year sentence, I am not working, but still paying probation fees, child support and arrearages and fines. This comes to:

5 days held over in jail,

$25.00 probation reporting fee that was included when not necessary for August,

I was convicted of a Class "C" felony but have no D.O.C. number ( I never was processed),

I paid a transfer fee of $75.00, 105 days ahead of being released and still don't have return confirmation,

Where does this stop, and at what point is someone other than myself going to take responsibilities for their lack of action. I was found guilty, sentenced, done more than my time, yet I am still paying?
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I'll try to answer your questions as I read them, let me know if I missed one.

1. How long from start to finish, (in an emergency request) should an interstate compact agreement take?
Answer: The compact does not have a set time limit rule on Request for Expedited Transfer as in days. What the compact say's is "A receiving state that agrees to expedited transfer of an offender shall immediately issue reporting instructions for the offender, and a sending state shall immediately issue a travel permit". Sec.3.106

The rule governing time to investigate a normal OOS request is by the 45th day of receiving the request (considered received by the 5th day). Unless, the sending state fails to send the appropraite paperwork and documents then the receiving state has 5 days to notify the sendind state of the misssing paperwork or documents. Sec.3.104

2. Can these people be held responsible for their lack/mis actions?
Answer: I'm not sure what action or lack of that your addressing. There is no rule governing how long a sending state has to send out a request, that will depend on thier states laws, policies or norms. i.e. how fast they get everything together may be controlled by staffing issues and I'll bet most states have no laws dictating a States Dept of Corrections must send out a request within a certain time frame. In some states it takes months to just get a criminal history back (must accompany the request).
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You can get all the info on the interstate compact at http://www.adultcompact.org/
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Thank you! This information on the Interstate Compact was very helpful. I have been trying to find some straight answers as to how the process works and now I finally have some. Now I'll be able to tell him some information on whats going to happen with his IC request.
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don't expect much to change because of the new interstate compact rules and guide lines.....the states still do what they want.......and the sending state will not complain
(honor among theifs i guess)
in my case even though we are legaly married... because we've never lived together....and missouri conciders my husband a violent offender because he walked off a work furlough but did his 5 years more for that mistake..... and because i have a minor child they said they wanta protect my child.....and refused it flat out.... not to mention ks never has heard back from them....and it's been nearly 90 days....but the investigating po left me a message two days after the house visit....that they were gonna refuse it.....not to mentoin the same investigating po thought he was still incarcerated...which he wasn't he had been on parole for a few weeks in ks.....
missouri was clueless to the whole situation
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So, what if a cousin is the only family left for the incarcerated person?

If my cousin doesn't come here, he will surely end up back with his meth friends- the only people he knows.
Do case managers have any disgression is these matters?
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THANKS FOR THE INFO i AS WELL AM GOING THRU THIS WITH MY BABY AND IT'S HARD TO GET TRANSFERED GRRR!!!
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My husband was released from a CA prison in Feb 2004 and was trying to get a transfer to Nv where I had moved. We paid all the due restitution and filled all the paperwork required for transfer with no avail. Due to him being in NV without permission he was violated and just did 6 months and is about to be released in 2 weeks. My question is his parole officer seems to refuse to do the transfer and is dragging his feet is there anyway to get the transfer taken care of without the parole officer? Also Myself and our children are the only living family and the cost of living is so high in CA he has nowhere to stay arent all these reasons for a transfer?
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The answer is no, there is no way to apply for interstate compact without the PO as it's the assigned PO that puts the who thing together. Also, as mentioned on this string is that CA has no obligation to even allow him to apply. The fact he left the state without permission and has violated his probation is enough for the PO to argue to make him remain in CA (did your man get arrested due to a warrant?). If a PO can argue the client is a risk of violating in the future than that may be enough for the PO to get back up by his/her supervisor to deny a transfer request, as the cost of transferring a client back due to violations is the burden of the sending state. I'd guess your only option is to try and go over his PO's head i.e. speak to his/her supervisor about the transfer. Keep in mind this may have consequences for your husband. My personal opinion would be if the client is not a high risk, which is determined through a risk assessment tool (yes he did screw up by leaving the state before a transfer was complete but he served 6 months for that) I would still present the transfer to NV if his plan showed it was in his best interest and if the transfer appeared to increase his likelihood of success. The bottom line is, I’m not aware of any state that has laws indicating a probationer or parolee has a right to be transferred to another state.

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