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Even if it was legal throughout the United States, distribution would still not be legal.
Um, yea distribution IS legal. In Colorado. In an controlled environment. As it should be.
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Um, yea distribution IS legal. In Colorado. In an controlled environment. As it should be.
Oh, I didn't realize that any ole person could sell weed and it's legal. Of course people authorized that have a selling permit can distribute it but not the general consumer. So I'm guessing if the OP had 5lbs of weed in Colorado they would have still been arrested and charged.
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Oh, I didn't realize that any ole person could sell weed and it's legal. Of course people authorized that have a selling permit can distribute it but not the general consumer. So I'm guessing if the OP had 5lbs of weed in Colorado they would have still been arrested and charged.
My response to that is...lol.
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While Colorado and Washington have de-criminalized recreational use of marijuana and twenty states allow use for medical purposes, a Louisiana man was sentenced to twenty years in prison in New Orleans criminal court for possessing 15 grams, .529 of an ounce, of marijuana.

In Louisiana, a person can get up to six months in jail for first marijuana conviction, up to five years in prison for the second conviction and up to twenty years in prison for the third. In fact, the Louisiana Supreme Court recently overturned a sentence of five years as too lenient for a fourth possession of marijuana and ordered the person sentenced to at least 13 years.

http://dissidentvoice.org/2013/09/ha...ars-in-prison/
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http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-...216-story.html

Listen, it's crazy to go to prison for years and years for personal use of marijuana, just as it's crazy to go to prison for years and years for person use quantities of heroin, meth, crack, and just about any other addicting substance, but those who are using those substances know that they are violating the law and could go to prison for it.

For those with more than personal use quantities and no license to produce or distribute, there are other problems. Sorry, but you get no sympathy from me when you're busted with pounds of the stuff. Where did it come from? your own personal grow room? Obviously not, or you'd be charged with that as well. So, where does it come from?

In my brother's case, it came from Mexico, and some pretty ruthless people organized for the purposes of growth and distribution at a wholesale level. It was just under 60 lbs of pot, just pot, and he did close to a decade for it. He risked life, but rolled over enough to get that short of a sentence. My question has always been how many people died as a result of his participation in these activities. He'd pick up in Texas, deliver to the midwest, and collect his money. Hundreds of thousands of dollars were found in his car and seized. How many people died for that money? for those drugs? We're not talking about Tommy Chong here; we're talking about a connection with some very bad people who have been responsible for mass murder in order to take over that particular trafficking route.

So, where's the line? He knew what he was doing was illegal. He described the shot of adrenaline that would course through him and how his balls would squeeze up into him when his car was loaded with pot and he passed a cop. He knew what he was doing was illegal. Anybody outside of CO and WA who tokes up knows that it's illegal. Anybody with "personal use" quantities knows it's illegal. Anybody with more than "personal use" quantities knows it's illegal. Yet they do it anyway. Unlike the "personal use" busts, the rest are usually doing it for the money. Personal use? Yeah, they're doing it why? Because getting high is more important than getting busted.
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Um, yea distribution IS legal. In Colorado. In an controlled environment. As it should be.
A shop that is properly registered with the State can purchase (under State law) from approved sources. I could not, by way of example, grow my own pot in that State and have it in my trunk to sell to anyone willing to pay my price. Individual distribution is still quite illegal, even in places where the sale to masses by qualified shops is legal...

Oh, and this completely also ignores the reality that Colorado law could easily be invalidated if the federal government elected to enforce federal laws that still make marijuana illegal...
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While Colorado and Washington have de-criminalized recreational use of marijuana and twenty states allow use for medical purposes, a Louisiana man was sentenced to twenty years in prison in New Orleans criminal court for possessing 15 grams, .529 of an ounce, of marijuana.

In Louisiana, a person can get up to six months in jail for first marijuana conviction, up to five years in prison for the second conviction and up to twenty years in prison for the third. In fact, the Louisiana Supreme Court recently overturned a sentence of five years as too lenient for a fourth possession of marijuana and ordered the person sentenced to at least 13 years.

http://dissidentvoice.org/2013/09/ha...ars-in-prison/
Which does nothing to negate the reality that personal possession amounts RARELY (you know, that word I included in my post) results in lengthy sentences. I have no problems with enhancement provisions...the 20 year sentence referenced was not a first offense.

If someone chooses to repeatedly violate the law in their jurisdiction, they and they alone also chose to bear the consequence for their decision.
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I come from the hippie period, so it's hard for me to work up any moral outrage over marijuana use or even people selling small amounts to their friends. But there is a lot of suffering caused by the fact that it is illegal and that many unscrupulous and cruel people are making money off of it.
Illegal drug traffickers feed governmental corruption and cause suffering to the poor in their countries. We in the U.S. seem to be one of the largest markets for illegal substances, and I believe we should do what we can to put the large drug traffickers out of business. In my opinion, the quicker marijuana is legalized in all the states (for people over 18), the better. Less people hurt, less money for the cartels, less risk of jail time for those who use it.



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http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-...216-story.html

Listen, it's crazy to go to prison for years and years for personal use of marijuana, just as it's crazy to go to prison for years and years for person use quantities of heroin, meth, crack, and just about any other addicting substance, but those who are using those substances know that they are violating the law and could go to prison for it.

For those with more than personal use quantities and no license to produce or distribute, there are other problems. Sorry, but you get no sympathy from me when you're busted with pounds of the stuff. Where did it come from? your own personal grow room? Obviously not, or you'd be charged with that as well. So, where does it come from?

In my brother's case, it came from Mexico, and some pretty ruthless people organized for the purposes of growth and distribution at a wholesale level. It was just under 60 lbs of pot, just pot, and he did close to a decade for it. He risked life, but rolled over enough to get that short of a sentence. My question has always been how many people died as a result of his participation in these activities. He'd pick up in Texas, deliver to the midwest, and collect his money. Hundreds of thousands of dollars were found in his car and seized. How many people died for that money? for those drugs? We're not talking about Tommy Chong here; we're talking about a connection with some very bad people who have been responsible for mass murder in order to take over that particular trafficking route.

So, where's the line? He knew what he was doing was illegal. He described the shot of adrenaline that would course through him and how his balls would squeeze up into him when his car was loaded with pot and he passed a cop. He knew what he was doing was illegal. Anybody outside of CO and WA who tokes up knows that it's illegal. Anybody with "personal use" quantities knows it's illegal. Anybody with more than "personal use" quantities knows it's illegal. Yet they do it anyway. Unlike the "personal use" busts, the rest are usually doing it for the money. Personal use? Yeah, they're doing it why? Because getting high is more important than getting busted.
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legalize it, tax it, treat it

still doesn't make it ok for those who're arrested for distribution outside the law. With the passage of federal medical marijuana, it's becoming easier to be a legitimate user, distributer, and grower. If you insist on being illegitimate, then you reap what you sow.
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A shop that is properly registered with the State can purchase (under State law) from approved sources. I could not, by way of example, grow my own pot in that State and have it in my trunk to sell to anyone willing to pay my price. Individual distribution is still quite illegal, even in places where the sale to masses by qualified shops is legal...

Oh, and this completely also ignores the reality that Colorado law could easily be invalidated if the federal government elected to enforce federal laws that still make marijuana illegal...
That is a big IF..And I HIGHLY doubt that would happen.
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That is a big IF..And I HIGHLY doubt that would happen.
eeek, don't move so fast. During the last Bush presidency, Bush decided to instruct Ashcroft to do 2 things - challenge the obscenity laws to increase the scope of what's not covered by the First Amendment because it's obscene. Second, make every state that doesn't have the death penalty sit a death qualified jury in the federal system, convict, and send at least one person to federal death row. As a result? Muddled in the first case, but a pornographer spent millions and faced thousand of years in prison, while others faced lesser sentences for similar industry. In the second, states like Iowa, Michigan, Massachusetts, and others all sat death qualified juries, heard death penalty cases, and mostly sent people to federal death row.

Btw, all those death cases? Yeah, they were drug cases.

Right now, the Obama administration has backed off on a bunch of federal marijuana prosecutions, including a few years ago "unofficially" officially stopping federal drug task forces from going after medicinal users of otherwise illegal marijuana. Obama will be out of office in a few short years, and you have people like little brother Jeb Bush and Mike Huckabee, and others of similar bent craving to jump into that position and right all the wrongs of Obama.

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eeek, don't move so fast. During the last Bush presidency, Bush decided to instruct Ashcroft to do 2 things - challenge the obscenity laws to increase the scope of what's not covered by the First Amendment because it's obscene. Second, make every state that doesn't have the death penalty sit a death qualified jury in the federal system, convict, and send at least one person to federal death row. As a result? Muddled in the first case, but a pornographer spent millions and faced thousand of years in prison, while others faced lesser sentences for similar industry. In the second, states like Iowa, Michigan, Massachusetts, and others all sat death qualified juries, heard death penalty cases, and mostly sent people to federal death row.

Btw, all those death cases? Yeah, they were drug cases.

Right now, the Obama administration has backed off on a bunch of federal marijuana prosecutions, including a few years ago "unofficially" officially stopping federal drug task forces from going after medicinal users of otherwise illegal marijuana. Obama will be out of office in a few short years, and you have people like little brother Jeb Bush and Mike Huckabee, and others of similar bent craving to jump into that position and right all the wrongs of Obama.

So, I wouldn't bet on your position.
I would bet on it. And I pray our country isn't as stupid as to elect another Bush in office!!

The whole weed argument is such BS to begin with. I spend a whopping $10 a week on WEED. Smoke very little, but I DO smoke and feel if you want to smoke it you should have the right to walk into a Dispensary (as I do) and buy it. I mean what is your argument where alcohol is legal? So much worse..on SO MANY levels. It's just insane to me.
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I would bet on it. And I pray our country isn't as stupid as to elect another Bush in office!!

The whole weed argument is such BS to begin with. I spend a whopping $10 a week on WEED. Smoke very little, but I DO smoke and feel if you want to smoke it you should have the right to walk into a Dispensary (as I do) and buy it. I mean what is your argument where alcohol is legal? So much worse..on SO MANY levels. It's just insane to me.
I don't think this is a weed argument as much as it's a legal one. I have nothing against legal use of pot and I wish that they would make it legal but the OP was breaking the law and knew it. You have the option to walk into a dispensary and buy it legally. We are also talking about 5lbs not an ounce for personal use. You don't have that much pot on you unless you are selling it.

I don't think that jaywalking is necessarily something that should (could) be illegal but if I did it and got a ticket who could I blame but myself?

As a side note, I didn't think Obama would ever be elected into office but it happened so never underestimate the intelligence of the voters.
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I don't think this is a weed argument as much as it's a legal one. I have nothing against legal use of pot and I wish that they would make it legal but the OP was breaking the law and knew it. You have the option to walk into a dispensary and buy it legally. We are also talking about 5lbs not an ounce for personal use. You don't have that much pot on you unless you are selling it.

I don't think that jaywalking is necessarily something that should (could) be illegal but if I did it and got a ticket who could I blame but myself?

As a side note, I didn't think Obama would ever be elected into office but it happened so never underestimate the intelligence of the voters.
Chapel, I understand your point. I get that, but I don't understand why we cant treat it as we do Tobacco. Let the farmers/growers grow it..tax it. It just doesnt make sense to me. So it just outrages me to hear someone doing time over MJ. So many other people deserve those prison beds.

And as far as the Bush/Obama comments..totally different topic and I learned long ago working in a Barbershop, Religion/Politics topics makes my tips far less

And btw my man is on Lockdown, so I have a lot of time to think/argue right now. lol
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Chapel, I understand your point. I get that, but I don't understand why we cant treat it as we do Tobacco. Let the farmers/growers grow it..tax it. It just doesnt make sense to me. So it just outrages me to hear someone doing time over MJ. So many other people deserve those prison beds.

And as far as the Bush/Obama comments..totally different topic and I learned long ago working in a Barbershop, Religion/Politics topics makes my tips far less

And btw my man is on Lockdown, so I have a lot of time to think/argue right now. lol
Oh, I get it. There is a family here that is being prosecuted for giving their child medicinal marijuana 1 week before they could legally get it for him. It's ridiculous. I sure hope that they drop the criminal charges against them.

I do have to say that I sat next to someone on the bus on Friday and it was very apparent that he had been smoking because he reeked. I'm not looking forward to everyone smelling like that. Maybe I'm just used to cigarette smoke because I smoke.
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Oh, I get it. There is a family here that is being prosecuted for giving their child medicinal marijuana 1 week before they could legally get it for him. It's ridiculous. I sure hope that they drop the criminal charges against them.

I do have to say that I sat next to someone on the bus on Friday and it was very apparent that he had been smoking because he reeked. I'm not looking forward to everyone smelling like that. Maybe I'm just used to cigarette smoke because I smoke.
I smoke cigarettes too.. But HATE THEM! Very hard habit to quit. I don't smoke inside EVER. hate the way they make my clothes smell. And the smoke sticks to EVERYTHING. But I like the smell of weed. But actually I prefer the edibles now over smoking.
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You want to know why, you need to look at the history of the substance. You'll find that there's a very racist basis to a lot of drug laws. Do I support it? Nope, defense attorney. When you do get busted, I'll defend you. That's whether you buy illegal cigarettes (yes, still a problem - look for that tax stamp or you could face prosecution), illegal alcohol (when you're underage, or you fail to see the appropriate tax stamp at your neighbor's still when you buy a few mason jars of hooch), get busted for selling prescription drugs when you're not a pharmacist in a duly licensed drug store, get busted for selling veterinary drugs to humans for human consumption, or whatever.

This has never been about drugs - it's about illegality. If weed becomes legal federally and in my state for recreational consumption, I'll probably go to my local dispensary and get a few brownies, and a bunch of e-juice and have a grand weekend. But, that's the difference between me and the OP - I'm not going to purposely violate that law, endorsing a shit-load of violence inside and outside of the US, and then bitch that the pot laws are wrong. You want change, you do it legally. Change the legislation. Vote. And don't bitch if you choose to violate the law and then have to pay the piper.
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If weed becomes legal federally and in my state for recreational consumption, I'll probably go to my local dispensary and get a few brownies, and a bunch of e-juice and have a grand weekend.
EXACTLY! But until that time comes I'm going to do whatever it takes to stay out of prison.
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MikesGirl? Isn't your boyfriend soon to be released from federal prison?

Does he plan on living with you? If so, that legal in CO pot becomes a probation violation and if that happens all time taken off for RDAP will be added back on.

His probation papers will clearly spell this out and the PO can search his residence at ant time.
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MikesGirl? Isn't your boyfriend soon to be released from federal prison?

Does he plan on living with you? If so, that legal in CO pot becomes a probation violation and if that happens all time taken off for RDAP will be added back on.

His probation papers will clearly spell this out and the PO can search his residence at ant time.

That may be an issue if he had probation/parole. He flattened though sweetheart, so try again.

And furthermore I think its irrelevant what I do or what he does. This thread is about someone else and the legalization of MJ. But thanks for taking a shot, it was a good one, but you missed...
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Perhaps there's somebody else it might help then and why would you even think I was trying to take a shot at you?

I was merely stressing that IF. a person is on federal probation even otherwise legal pot can be a problem. I've talked with people here that learned the hard way and I'd prefer others avoid that mistake.
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Perhaps there's somebody else it might help then and why would you even think I was trying to take a shot at you?

I was merely stressing that IF. a person is on federal probation even otherwise legal pot can be a problem. I've talked with people here that learned the hard way and I'd prefer others avoid that mistake.

Lol. I do believe you were. It isn't the first time I've dealt with your "helpful" remarks.

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Perhaps there's somebody else it might help then and why would you even think I was trying to take a shot at you?

I was merely stressing that IF. a person is on federal probation even otherwise legal pot can be a problem. I've talked with people here that learned the hard way and I'd prefer others avoid that mistake.
Same for alcohol. I'm not sure if parolees or probationers in pot legal states are allowed to imbibe outside of medical treatment as "no alcohol" is a common restriction, no matter what the conviction.

Mikes - just an FYI - the OP wasn't so much about legalization of pot, it was about doing time for 5 lbs of pot, and because of the progressive legalization of it, being able to laugh about it, and the conviction having lesser effect than say a conviction for meth or something.

Pot is progressing in legality, and hopefully it will continue. Elliot Ness was asked by a reporter once, as the 21st amendment was coming close to having enough state support to dispose of the 18th amendment, "Mr. Ness, what are you going to do if they repeal prohibition?"

Ness answered, "have a drink."

There's a difference between the war on drugs and drug use. There's a difference between drug use when it's illegal, and drug use when it's legal. Those who get busted for pot (and frequently for other drugs), think a lot of illogical things, one of which is since it shouldn't be illegal, what they are doing isn't wrong. But, that's not a defense to committing an illegal act. Before WA and CO legalized rec use, the answer was simple - go to a country with legalized pot if you're so interested in using it. If not, stay here, don't violate the law, and do what everybody who's pissed at a law does - vote for legislation and legislators that will support your position.

Go outside the law, and it's not a matter of the right or wrong of pot, it's a matter of the right or wrong of intentionally breaking a law. And that's not funny, no matter what happens with pot.
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Yourself, I agree with you. I don't think it's funny either that he/she is doing time for weed. But again, it shouldn't be illegal to begin with, IMO! I mean whatever the circumstances we're around the 5lbs...why couldnt he/she grow it, sell it (with taxes of course) and that be that.
One day my best friend and I we're sitting on her back porch out in the country, she has a nice Garden out back, we we're sitting there smoking a Joint and she was like "Why can't I put some MJ plants in between my tomato and Green beans? Like seriously, why can't she? I'm not asking, I know but just making my point.
I hear what you and everyone else says, I just have to strongly voice my opinion about it. I was a crack addict. Strung out, couldn't keep $5 for food because I HAD to have another blow. I spend $10/week on weed. I focus, I handle my business, I obey the law. Why is it such a big deal to legalize it? It would create so many jobs, opportunity. It is not the "gateway drug" everyone likes to say it is. Pleaseee if it was Id be smoking crack somewhere... I just feel very strongly about my argument and I will ABSOLUTELY vote. No worries.
And FYI~ I KNOW what the thread was about, I'm not a stupid Woman.
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I just got home from doing seven in the feds, you aren't gonna think its funny when she doesn't pick up the phone, or when those dudes you were looking out for stop sending money, or when you're in that waiting room waiting for the visit and your name doesn't get called, first time you hear drop squat and cough you aren't gonna laugh at all
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I'm about to sign my plea for 2.5-5 years for 5 lbs of pot in arizona...I wonder if in ten years I'll look back and laugh at the government for things like this.
Are you back home yet? Looking at the date it is likely that the poster was released on merit time.
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