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Old 02-11-2013, 12:59 PM
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My daddy was in prison for 7 yrs. He was under structured sentencing. His minimum was 10 yrs. A specialist requested that he see a different specialist due to breathing problems. I tried for over a year to get him help. I was on the phone and emailing weekly. Since may 10th of 2012 I was trying to get help daily. May 10th is when he was sent to central prison hospital. He was in a room 24/7 until September 28th. They finally granted him confined medical release and September 28th he saw a specialist who immediately admitted him into the hospital. Every email said "Y'all are slowly killing my daddy. Please help him. Do not let him die in there". One of the last emails said "Im tired of this. I am going to the media". That is when he got help. I wish I would have said media in the first email I sent them. I was told by doctor at central prison that because of he lack of care he was in the condition he was in. The hospital had come up with a team of doctors and a plan. He was suppose to come home from there. However he was taken back to central. When I knew that's where they were taking him I called medical director at the prison. He said we are not equipped to take care of him here and didn't understand why he was being brought back there. 6 days later they called my step mom and told her she could pick him up. He made it home. We had waited for that day for 7 long, hard years. He died 20 minutes later. Has anyone else experienced problems similar to this? He old me of others who were treated for the wrong problems. Some could have died if not taken to outside hospital when they were. Another fella was treated for a problem for over a year. Turns out he was misdiagnosed and when sent to outside hospital it was found that all along it was colon cancer.....and was now stage 4(end stage). I'm sick and completely heartbroken.
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Old 02-11-2013, 02:51 PM
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Hello I'm so very sorry for everything that has happen to your father did this happen in california prison? I have a brother who is 36 years old and he got very sick in county jail and my brother was sent to prison he to serve a 10 year term he went in a wheel chair And in one week my brother was sent to a hospital where he has been for 4 months now he is on a ventilator and in ICU in a coma and he hospital doesn't no whats Wong with him they did a biopsy on the front of his brain and they also did 2 biopsys on the back on his spine and they put a trake in his throat and they put a pacemaker into his heart and they were treating my brother with the highes dose of tb medication for 3 weeks and come to find out he never even had to tb my family has been very sad and heart broken about this whole thing happening to him god bless you and I will keep you in my prayers my heart hurts for my brother daily god will help us get through this
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I'm so sorry about your brother. I will be praying for you too. Please let me know how he is doing. My daddy was in NC. There are so many stories like my daddy and your brothers. My daddy learned his lesson before he went to prison. However there are folks in there who need help with what ever got them there....drugs, alcohol, etc. There is no help for those who are in there. And because of that they ave a lot that return. It's a sad corrupt world we live in. I called and emailed every person there was to call or email.....the director of prisons, secretary of public safety, governor, etc. I told them I would fight for him until either him or I took our last breath here on this earth. That is the only reason he made it home. If not for hounding them daily he would have died alone in prison. That would have been more than my heart could stand. Are you allowed to visit him in the hospital? They have nearly killed your brother. Fight for him. No matter what it takes fight!
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Old 03-06-2013, 03:48 PM
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My daddy was in prison for 7 yrs. He was under structured sentencing. His minimum was 10 yrs. A specialist requested that he see a different specialist due to breathing problems. I tried for over a year to get him help. I was on the phone and emailing weekly. Since may 10th of 2012 I was trying to get help daily. May 10th is when he was sent to central prison hospital. He was in a room 24/7 until September 28th. They finally granted him confined medical release and September 28th he saw a specialist who immediately admitted him into the hospital. Every email said "Y'all are slowly killing my daddy. Please help him. Do not let him die in there". One of the last emails said "Im tired of this. I am going to the media". That is when he got help. I wish I would have said media in the first email I sent them. I was told by doctor at central prison that because of he lack of care he was in the condition he was in. The hospital had come up with a team of doctors and a plan. He was suppose to come home from there. However he was taken back to central. When I knew that's where they were taking him I called medical director at the prison. He said we are not equipped to take care of him here and didn't understand why he was being brought back there. 6 days later they called my step mom and told her she could pick him up. He made it home. We had waited for that day for 7 long, hard years. He died 20 minutes later. Has anyone else experienced problems similar to this? He old me of others who were treated for the wrong problems. Some could have died if not taken to outside hospital when they were. Another fella was treated for a problem for over a year. Turns out he was misdiagnosed and when sent to outside hospital it was found that all along it was colon cancer.....and was now stage 4(end stage). I'm sick and completely heartbroken.
I have a good friend in JCI (Smithfield) who has liver cancer. It took the medical staff at his home camo more than two years even to identify that he had a problem. He got transferred to Wayne. there he collapsed. He was taken to Wayne County Hospital and two oncologists removed a chunk of his colon that was cancerous, and found the lesions on his liver. He was supposed to go to CP but instead wound up at JCI, from where he was supposed to get chemo at UNC Oncology in Chapel Hill every 21 days and get support meds (nausea, depression, salve for blistering hands and feet). So far they have missed one of his sessions, gotten him his meds way too late to help with any but the latest infusions (he has had three, they started in January) and say that it is UNC which is messing up his treatment.

Incompetence, indifference, outmoded religious beliefs (all prisoners are criminals, and all criminals are 'evil' sinners, are thus not entitled to the same humane treatment as the rest of us, and must be harshly punished), hardened to suffering, politics -- all play a role in keeping entitled healthcare from inmates.

We are working on having an RN get power of attorney for health and then require the medication and treatment programs to be sent to her as well as to the camp. And we are looking for qualified advocates.

this man is not a criminal but an addict whose crime was committed while under the influence. he surrendered himself willingly, never contested his sentence, has learned and says imprisonment is the best thing that ever happened to him.
All except the healthcare part, that is.

Very, very sorry about your father. Thanks for sharing all that you did.
the media is another idea I can pass along to my friend's family, but I know that too many uproars and the prison officials will simply ignore us and lower the boom on my friend inside the walls.
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?Who am I? I am 71 years old, 34 yeas in alcoholism recovery, have had 4 years as a volunteer in NC DoC now DoPS, including 3 as Community Leave volunteer. I have been involved with inmates in: Southern, Western, Foothills, Hazelwood (closed), Johnston, Wayne, Buncombe Correctional Center, Marion, and Craggy. My home camp is Craggy, but I have a close friend in Johnston C I with whm I talk a lot (GTL), exchange letters and whom I just visited for an extended visit Monday afternoon. With my wife, I have also had three years teaching career transition skills and planning to inmate in NCDPS. I'm 71 years old, was a consultant in management, career and leadership development, as well as a University teacher.
I speak, read and write German. And I love German Shepherd Dogs, Mozart, Beethoven, Franz Schubert and how the Germans have developed their democracy since collapse in 1945. WW2, both US and German sides, is my avocation passion along with my Scots clan and the Highland games at Grandfather Mountain most years.
I live in Western North Carolina in the mountains.
I'm engaging with prisontalk.com because I am very concerned about the fate of my friend at Johnston Correctional Institution in Smithfield NC (brown clothes). Basically he is not getting the treatments for liver cancer that his surgeon at UNC Chapel Hill has prescribed and administers. First, he has missed a chemo treatment. The guards to drive him from Smithfield to Chapel Hill simply failed to show up for his last session. And of course he cannot find out anything about why. In addition, it has taken him months just to get the anti nausea, ante-depression pills and the salve cream for hand and feet peeling and blisters that the UNC surgeon prescribed.
He has a great job at JCI and is earning a lot of respect from inmates and administration alike, which is helping. But with liver cancer, if this course of treatment is incorrectly administered or fails for any reason, there is only one more chemical that might help him.
He is not a criminal, but an addict/alcoholic. I know, we know how to measure and identify the thinking of each. He surrendered himself after his crime, never has contested his sentencing or imprisonment, and has used his prison time to develop very effective teaching and counseling skills, right attitudes and good relationships. He says without hesitation that his imprisonment, all but the healthcare part, is the best thing that ever happened to him.
His crime is gone. He is paying his price.
But his health treatment, were this Germany in 1946, comes close to qualifying as an indictable war crime.
I am looking to network to anyone who can share any suggestions or experience or hope. I pass along what I find to his family, one of whom is an RN and will soon have health power of attorney over him. My actions cannot be about vindictiveness, but about compassion and assistance for a good but helpless man needing help with his cancer in the camps.
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I have a good friend in JCI (Smithfield) who has liver cancer. It took the medical staff at his home camo more than two years even to identify that he had a problem. He got transferred to Wayne. there he collapsed. He was taken to Wayne County Hospital and two oncologists removed a chunk of his colon that was cancerous, and found the lesions on his liver. He was supposed to go to CP but instead wound up at JCI, from where he was supposed to get chemo at UNC Oncology in Chapel Hill every 21 days and get support meds (nausea, depression, salve for blistering hands and feet). So far they have missed one of his sessions, gotten him his meds way too late to help with any but the latest infusions (he has had three, they started in January) and say that it is UNC which is messing up his treatment.

Incompetence, indifference, outmoded religious beliefs (all prisoners are criminals, and all criminals are 'evil' sinners, are thus not entitled to the same humane treatment as the rest of us, and must be harshly punished), hardened to suffering, politics -- all play a role in keeping entitled healthcare from inmates.

We are working on having an RN get power of attorney for health and then require the medication and treatment programs to be sent to her as well as to the camp. And we are looking for qualified advocates.

this man is not a criminal but an addict whose crime was committed while under the influence. he surrendered himself willingly, never contested his sentence, has learned and says imprisonment is the best thing that ever happened to him.
All except the healthcare part, that is.

Very, very sorry about your father. Thanks for sharing all that you did.
the media is another idea I can pass along to my friend's family, but I know that too many uproars and the prison officials will simply ignore us and lower the boom on my friend inside the walls.

I wrote a long reply but it wouldn't let me submit it. Its definitely a catch 22 it seems, to cause an uproar. With that being said please tell your friends family to keep fighting. Call and email govenor, secretary of public safety, director of prisons, etc. Call and email daily until someone responds. Tell them that you will go to media or do whatever has to be done to help the inmate. Let them know that you are not going anywhere. They gave us a family liazon. They are the go between between inmate and whoever he designates to be on his medical release form. You can call daily and more that once if you feel like you need to. They will go check on him and give you an update. I made sure to always tell them to tell daddy that I loved him and was fighting for him to get the help he needed. Advice I would give is this...write down every time you call or email someone about the inmate, write down who you talked to and exactly what was said, and keep all emails that they send you. I kept a daily journal of all those things so that when I talked with someone new I could give dates and names.....just to let them know I was on top of my game and I meant business. It helps to have it, also, because they like to talk in circles and cover up for one another. They also told us that UNC made mistakes. That was not AT ALL the case. UNC is one of the best hospitals in the country. They always treated my daddy with the upmost respect and viewed him as their patient. They didn't consider him being an inmate as any of their business. They were awesome! I told everyone that I emailed that I would settle for nothing other than UNC. As far as Central Prison goes. If there is no way that he can be released due to medical condition I would not recommend that he go there. He will be in a room 24/7. There is no T.V. and nobody to talk to. My daddy got much worse while being there. Please don't let them send him there. I don't know how bad off your friend is but I will tell you this....if he were to die in prison the way that the family will find out is through a letter. "We regretfully inform you of the death of inmate (his name). His body is being held at the Chief Medical Examiners office. Please contact us at once if you wish to claim his body". I knew that daddy had died because he made it home just in time to do so. However had he not, that is how we would have found out. It's sick and horrible. If I can answer any questions you or the family may have please let me know. My daddy raised me to help those who can't help themselves and to love my neighbor as I love myself. I want to help families and sick inmates as much as I can. You ALL will be in my prayers. Please keep fighting!!!!
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Also, does you friend qualify for medical release. My daddy didn't but because I hounded them daily he was granted a "limits of confinement release". They said they are rarely granted but if you let them know that you are willingly to do whatever is necessary to help your friend they will listen. Another thing I would suggest would be to get in contact with the NC Prison Legal Services.
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