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Old 04-27-2004, 08:11 PM
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Default DOCs serving inmates food "NOT FIT FOR HUMAN CONSUMPTION."

I went on a visit last weekend, and my fellah told me something that has me very upset. Okay.... SCREAMING MAD!!!!

WA DOC is purchasing and serving inmates food clearly marked "NOT FIT FOR HUMAN CONSUMPTION."

How many insitutions are serving our loved ones food not fit for animal feed?

How can the DOC get away with this?

Not only how can they get away with this, what can be done to stop it????

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Old 04-27-2004, 08:25 PM
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The only thing that I can think of that is going to change this, is for one of us to see if we can get our guy to send one of the labels home, and take it STRAIGHT to the news. I'll get Scott on it.... See if your guy can help too...
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This really sickens me that they can get away with it. What are the statistics of food poisoning I wonder???
I agree, the media would be interested in this one, and all the human rights groups.
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They are doing the same here in colorado......
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I think it would be good to have a description of exactly what is in the boxes...what type of food?
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I think it would be good to have a description of exactly what is in the boxes...what type of food?
At the facility that my guy is in, he only told me about "chicken parts." The inmate kitchen staff go through the boxes to pick out the best (of the worst) to cook up for the guys and then toss the rest.

Chicken parts... not very discriptive!!
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I was wondering about the chicken parts too. Its probably leftovers from what is sent to market, since mostly of a chicken is, whats left?
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a little humor on this. I once had a graduate student from Thailand rent a room from me. She said once, shortly after she arrived " I'm told that Americans throw out the best parts of the chicken!! Is that true?" I said, "what parts would that be?". She said the feet are the very best part! Crunchy!". I said "yup, we throw them out!" lol My brother in law who works at a major food company in R & D came back with lots of photos from a trip to China, where they have a plant. They took photos when they'd go out to eat. He said everyone ate one scorpion and they weren't bad. Then he showed me a photo of fried or roasted silk worms and man did they look GROSS. I have no idea what he was thinking. He ate one, couldn't eat any more. See most people are way more adventurous than I am. I just could not eat bugs other than somehting like an ant! No million dollars on survivor would ever get me to eat the things they eat! but if I had to, I'd certainly eat chicken livers, skin, giblets.
When I worked in a private hospital, in high school, they served frog legs and also lutefisk as choices of entrees. swear to God! lobster and steak on order also!
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I'd certainly eat chicken livers!
Yum yum yum yummy !!!! I love chicken livers !!!! You must cook them and serve them warm with a salad and a few drops of raspberry vinegar !!! YUM !!!!

To go back to the topic, which company is providing the food in the prison you're mentionning ?? In Florida, all prison food is provided by Aramack, and they serve nothing but $h*t !!! I can't remember how many inmates were sick with the Thanksgiving "supposed" turkey !!!

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To go back to the topic, which company is providing the food in the prison you're mentionning ?? In Florida, all prison food is provided by Aramack, and they serve nothing but $h*t !!! I can't remember how many inmates were sick with the Thanksgiving "supposed" turkey !!!

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Phil, I have not been able to find out who has the contract. Not yet anyway! But I will!!!

I have read tons of stories regarding Aramack... that is scarry!! Was your guy ever sick?

With everything else they have to worry about, eating should not be one of them!
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I would start by sending a letter as a "concerned citizen" about what you have heard. I wouldn't tell them your relationship to the prison, but I would let them know that you have heard that the food is clearly marked. This will be a place to start and will also protect your inmate if they cant track it back to him. I would think that it would also concern the DOC because the last thing they want is to have this kind of publicity out into the public
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I have read tons of stories regarding Aramack... that is scarry!! Was your guy ever sick?
Yes Joey was once sick because of the chicken if I do remember. Or ham ?? Well, it was meat anyway.

Here's the link about the food poisoning at Union CI, and it was not for Thanksgiving, but for Christmas. Sorry, I don't seem to think straight tonight !!

http://prisontalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40303

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Heres the letter I just threw together for you. Let me know where to send it and I will


I am writing this letter as a concerned citizen. I have no connection to the Washington Department of Corrections, but I have recently heard something that is very disturbing to me as a citizen of this country. It has been brought to my attention that several states including Washington serve food clearly marked "Not fit for human consumption" to their inmates. I have been told that this is something that has been going on for years and quite honestly I don't understand how anyone could feed that to a human. I have never been in a jail or prison so I really have no idea what the food is like, but I have heard that its not very good. I have also heard how prison food has made many inmates sick. Again I don't understand the reason for serving this so called food to inmates. I understand that most DOCs do everything they can to save tax payer money and I respect that, but I don't believe that unfit food is the answer. I don't believe that any human being should be treated as such and their health shouldn't be compromised. I also think that the extra money spent on decent food would pay for itself in health care. We all know that a healthy person is less likely to become ill rather it be food poison or a general illness.
I leave you will one final question. Do you or would you eat the food in your prison everyday?
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Old 04-28-2004, 08:28 PM
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TNC that letter is great!

I am looking up the addresses and other contact information for WA state. So, if anyone is interested in helping on this letter writting campaign, I would return the favor!

I hope to have some information posted by the time I go to bed tonight!!
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I just finished reading "You got nothing coming", and there was a part where he described some food in the kitchen as labeled "not fit..." I'll need to go back and hunt that part down, because I was getting through it as fast as possible. Your letter is good, but I would leave out "I have no connection to the Washington Department of Corrections." It could come back to bite you in the butt. I wouldn't mention a connection or a non-connection.

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I just finished reading "You got nothing coming", and there was a part where he described some food in the kitchen as labeled "not fit..." I'll need to go back and hunt that part down, because I was getting through it as fast as possible. Your letter is good, but I would leave out "I have no connection to the Washington Department of Corrections." It could come back to bite you in the butt. I wouldn't mention a connection or a non-connection.

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The reason I chose to put that in is so they would see me as a concerned citizen and not a loved one of a WA inmate. I truely have no connection to WA DOC. I never thought about that part biting me in the butt. I guess maybe I will think more on the wording
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I guess the reason I say to leave it out, is because you have already stated that you're "a concerned citizen and this has come to my attention." and if something further comes of it, I'd rather have the freedom to at that point to state that I have a loved one in prison, or not. You just have more options when I don't think it adds anything important to the message itself. The message carries its own weight.

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I guess the reason I say to leave it out, is because you have already stated that you're "a concerned citizen and this has come to my attention." and if something further comes of it, I'd rather have the freedom to at that point to state that I have a loved one in prison, or not. You just have more options when I don't think it adds anything important to the message itself. The message carries its own weight.

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I had never thought of it like that. Thank you for your advise
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I didn't realize you weren't the original poster! *blush*. It was just an objective opinion, not a criticism. I wish I knew what was going on with my brother at HDSP. I haven't the first clue what he's eating. He's not out of reception yet.

There was just a thread on one of my cooking lists on the plus sides of chicken feet, btw... personally, with our dozen chickens, despite their liberal quarters and free-ranging activities, I can't imagine eating those feet. LOL! (Well, I can't imagine eating them period.)

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After an exhaustive search conducted by 3 different people (thank you TNC and scottandtami), it appears the Washington Department of Corrections requires all emails to go through one email address. That address would be:

doccorrespondence@doc1.wa.gov

We have figured out how the individual employees email address are assigned... first initial, middle initial, last name. Not knowing their middle initial kinda puts a screeching halt to the process!!

I have phsical addresses for the WA DOC head honcho, and Airway Height's Warden. PM me if you would like those.

I am tired. Calling it quits for awhile!
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where do we send this letter?
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After an exhaustive search conducted by 3 different people (thank you TNC and scottandtami), it appears the Washington Department of Corrections requires all emails to go through one email address. That address would be:

doccorrespondence@doc1.wa.gov

We have figured out how the individual employees email address are assigned... first initial, middle initial, last name. Not knowing their middle initial kinda puts a screeching halt to the process!!

I have phsical addresses for the WA DOC head honcho, and Airway Height's Warden. PM me if you would like those.

I am tired. Calling it quits for awhile!
I sent my letter of today and I also CC'd it to the Governor using this link http://www.governor.wa.gov/contact/contact.htm I will keep you posted in what I hear back
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Very good letter, Tanya....This situation definitely bears watching.
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I can't agree with you more about protecting the identify of the inmate, especially in matters that involve inhumane actions by corrections officials.

My husband has been in jail since last year (due out in a few weeks) and one incident, where I criticized a jail employee for making me needlessly run around for clothes for my husband, came back to haunt my husband. Since then, I now bite my tongue when interacting with most corrections officials, but the local media has been getting quite a bit of information in the interim.

I go out of my way now to keep the identify of the information secret because, in spite of living in the land of the free, I am not free to expect common decency within the corrections system.
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I'll send one also...do you have a mailing address?? Not to say that your efforts will not be heard, but they say that a letter is worth more than an email...unless of course if you flood their in-box

BTW, great letter Tanya...this is a disgrace, like Phil said, the same thing has happened in Florida around Christmas AND thanksgiving time, lots of food poisoning around the holidays, whats up with that!?!!? -- tho I believe they changed services from Amarak, thank goodness, did not surprise me that our Gov Jeb Bush is involved w/ that company either
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