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Old 12-22-2017, 12:50 AM
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My LO told me that the buzz going around his USP is that federal laws will be changed. Instead of serving 85% of federal time, federal inmates will now be able to serve 65% of their time! Is this true???
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Hi I heard this rumour a few years back and I cant find anything to substantiate it. Lets hope it happens but as far as I know its not happening yet.
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This rumour circulates through prisons and jails that do 85% every couple years it seems.
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This rumour circulates through prisons and jails that do 85% every couple years it seems.
This rumor never stops circulating!
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I think the last time the bill was before Congress was 5 years ago.
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One of the most valuable lessons I learned in federal prison was to accept I was going to do all of my time. Once I accepted that, rather than clinging to false hope, my time got less bad. Ignore rumors - tune them out.

This is when I finally understood what "do your time don't let your time do you" meant.

Yes, there are a few exceptions - like the retroactive crack sentences and presidential help, but the majority of people in federal prison are going to do 87.5% of their time somewhere. If something happens and they do get out early it is a blessing, but not something to focus on, not something to expect.

Another lessen was to never, ever compare my sentence or crime to anybody else's sentence or crime.
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Thank you all for your input....but man what a bummer!!! I'll have to break the news to my guy...he was so hoping....I think i'll wait till after the New Years. It's hard enough for him in there over the holidays
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If there were such a change, it would likely not be a retroactive change. There are FAR too many cases to have to re-evaluate. Best example to look at for substantial sweeping changes is when they did away with parole at the federal level...except for those who clearly were serving sentences imposed in the era where parole was an option. And they retain that eligibility in many cases even when they return to federal prison...until a new offense is committed that supersedes that eligibility.
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Thank you all for your input....but man what a bummer!!! I'll have to break the news to my guy...he was so hoping....I think i'll wait till after the New Years. It's hard enough for him in there over the holidays
How long has he been in? The reason I ask is because this rumor, or one just as off-base is going to come up again. At least it does at the state level, I assume it's similar in feds. He will hear all sorts of things about time off, programs he can apply to, laws changing...it's something you get sort of used to-- assuming it's untrue until someone shows you the paperwork.
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"is going to come up again"

The rumor of 65% verses 85% never really ever went away - there were versions of it floating around every federal prison I was in every week.

Another one was an increase in the number of good days - right now federal inmates get 45 days off a year for good behavior and the rumor always has it going to 54 days a year.

54 days a year is how a normal person would calculate 85%, but the BoP uses some mathematical formula too advanced for even Einstein which means federal inmates actually do 87.5% of their time.
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How long has he been in? The reason I ask is because this rumor, or one just as off-base is going to come up again. At least it does at the state level, I assume it's similar in feds. He will hear all sorts of things about time off, programs he can apply to, laws changing...it's something you get sort of used to-- assuming it's untrue until someone shows you the paperwork.
I do understand what your telling me....not holding out for false hope but....isn't it true that they are thinning things out at the state level in California? My guy is feds so, bummer for us but...could this be a breeze for the winds of change to come?
He has been in 5 yrs on 180 month sentence

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"could this be a breeze for the winds of change to come?"

No. Sorry, but I think that is unrealistic. Not impossible, but not something I'd give serious hope to.
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The existing "good time law" calls for 54 days per year of sentence. The bop decided that Congress must have meant 47 days instead. The courts agreed that they could do it (or award 54 days instead), so every good time eligible prisoner is cheated out of one week of time off for each year of their sentence.

The last 2 bop Directors have made devious statements about changing 47 days to 54 days/year. Since that is the actual wording in the law, I contend that they could fix the problem all by themselves.

Here's what Families Against Mandatory Minimums says about it.
http://famm.org/projects/federal/us-...ral-prisoners/
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