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California prison guards call for a strike vote
Karen Velie, Cal Coast News, 07/15/09

After learning of Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger’s plan to slash prison guard’s salaries by another 10 percent, the union has authorized a strike vote, according to Paco Villa’s Correction Blog. (click on this link to read Paco's blog, he has some really good points. There are also some great comments).

http://calcoastnews.com/news.php?viewStory=172192 (News story link)

Another take on a possible strike by other state workers:
http://www.californiaprogressreport....trike_aut.html

If they strike (which appears to be illegal according to their contract), things could get a lot worse than they are now. Last time, there were riots.
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There has never been a strike by CCPOA or the prison guards in California, ever!!
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You're right, never a strike. Just a massive sick-out. Same thing, different name. Politics at work, right?
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If they strike (which appears to be illegal according to their contract), things could get a lot worse than they are now. Last time, there were riots.
If they strike the CHP and National Guard would step in. Prisons are on the verge of riots now the tension is so high. Maybe this is what would be needed for the Feds to step in and take control of the prisons away from California. It is a catch 22 situation - damned if you do and damned if you don't.
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I have been a member of CCPOA for over 35 years. There has never been a strke, a sick out, or any other job action from CCPOA or the prison guards. Wherever you are getting your information, it's wrong. At the CCPOA convention yesterday, the membership authorized the Executive Council to seek a strike authorization if they deemed it appropriate to, they did not authorize a strike. This would be the first time CCPOA has ever sought authority from its members for a job action of any kind against the state. There has never been a previous job action and the inmates rioted as the original post states.

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Sorry to ruffle any feather's JLS, but I only posted the information given in the above-linked news article:

In 1978, prison guards waged a massive sickout protesting issues regarding wages, benefits, and guard’s requests to be recognition as peace officers. At the California Men’s Colony in San Luis Obispo County, only three guards crossed the picket line to join supervisors in running the prison.
Officials initiated a system wide lockdown. Though quiet at first, inmates eventually created floods by blocking toilets, broke windows, and started riots.
Within a few days, than Governor Jerry Brown conceded to the guards’ demands.

After doing a search to either refute or substantiate the above article, I found old news articles from the LA Times that called this (strike) a "sickout" and a "work stoppage". It occurred during April, 1979, and the acting governor was Mike Curb. The guards were demanding a 13.5% pay increase...
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Nothing ruins some good revisionist history like a few cited facts.
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Okay, I couldn't figure out why Jerry Brown's bio (and the article from today) lists him as California's governor during this time, but Mike Curb was quoted in all the LA Times news articles as the acting governor who handled the guards demands. It turns out that Brown was the official governor, but he was out of state for about a year running against Jimmy Carter for president. During this period, Mike Curb pretty much had full legal control over the state. So while the writer of today's article had the date wrong (it happened in 1979, not 1978), she was correct in stating that Jerry Brown was the governor. (Just in case anyone else is at all interested in California political history, lol).
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All I can say, it's prayin time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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All of this is absurd. And CCPOA is ruining it for all unions in California if they strike. Talk about setting themselves up and landing right in the lap of Arnie, the Union Busting King!!!

I'm concerned for the inmates. If there are riots, those who don't want to participate will get it from the inmates that DO.
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I thinks it a bit early to really begin freaking. I was hearing yesterday that they have come close on budget issues. Maybe they wont need to cut salaries again. Dont know for sure, just sort of hoping.
I will be watching this with interest tho. A strike would be foolish. very foolish.
Plus illegal. The union should be trying to calm things down, not incite them.
I agree it sucks that the would get a pay cut if the gov had his way, but you know? when the money isnt there..........what else could you do? This union is a powerful one. They have a crappy job that cant be one most of us would want. But they are also compensated heavily for it.

I wouldnt want to be working for the state right now. Thats for sure.
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I have been a member of CCPOA for over 35 years. There has never been a strke, a sick out, or any other job action from CCPOA or the prison guards. Wherever you are getting your information, it's wrong. At the CCPOA convention yesterday, the membership authorized the Executive Council to seek a strike authorization if they deemed it appropriate to, they did not authorize a strike. This would be the first time CCPOA has ever sought authority from its members for a job action of any kind against the state. There has never been a previous job action and the inmates rioted as the original post states.
I have researched this article in three source's ,and yes there are talks of a strike. However as the mother if a female inmate and a friend of several CO's and state workers,denial will not get us any where .Arnold is a ticking bomb working for free and It is just Horrible that it seems if he has it his way the rest of us will also be working for free as wee (I am a nurse). The only difference is he will still be in his mansion and we will all be in tent city's
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Okay a left feild question... How can their be riots if obviously no staff means no one gets out of their cells??? Oh wait I'm thinking for cell housed inmates. Never mind. I just want my husband safe.
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if you were there 35 years ago ,you dont remember?
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Not to make it sound funny or anything but I remember years ago in NY, my dad worked for the state in the canals division. They wanted to strike but they couldn't because it's against the law in NY. So instead of striking or having a sick-in, all the canal operators didn't put boats through the locks for a day. All the locks had "problems" working and they needed repairs that took a day. The maintenance crews were having a field day, running from lock to lock and finding nothing wrong but boats were pulled up near the locks waiting. I remember going to one of the locks where my dad worked and seeing 8 boats waiting, 4 of which were big barges. The next day, all got put through and on their way but the state ended up paying a huge amount to the maintenance guys, including overtime. It got their point across in a relatively peaceful way.
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The sacbee reports it could happen.

CCPOA reportedly moving toward strike vote

The comments are interesting.
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I was wondering if the co's go on strike can we take their place meanwhile and take care of our own men lol pls pls pls lol
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I was wondering if the co's go on strike can we take their place meanwhile and take care of our own men lol pls pls pls lol

LOL! Good Idea
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hope I'm not reposting here but this is on CMC's CCOPA website: http://newcmc.info/

To Our Members,
Yesterday (July 14, 2009) during the convention, the supreme body, consisting of all seeded delegates, voted 319 to 46 to authorize the Executive Council, if deemed necessary, to send out a vote to the entire membership to authorize a strike.
If the Executive Council finds it prudent to strike, an entire general membership vote will be required to authorize this action. A strike can only occur with the simple majority approval of all votes received from the general membership. The individual institution boards will not be voting on your behalf.
CMC’s delegates voted unanimously (10-0) to authorize the Executive Council (E.C.) to call for a strike vote. More information will be presented as it becomes available.
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Isn't it illegal for law enforcement officers and correctional officers to go on strike? I know in the past when there have been issues that have caused the unions to call for a strike, it usually meant that there was wide-spread sick-outs (e.g., "blue flu").
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I hope they DO GO ON STRIKE !!!!!1 Remove the Co's and place with national gaurds. Maybe this way they can remove the union for good.
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I thinks it a bit early to really begin freaking. I was hearing yesterday that they have come close on budget issues. Maybe they wont need to cut salaries again. Dont know for sure, just sort of hoping.
I will be watching this with interest tho. A strike would be foolish. very foolish.
Plus illegal. The union should be trying to calm things down, not incite them.
I agree it sucks that the would get a pay cut if the gov had his way, but you know? when the money isnt there..........what else could you do? This union is a powerful one. They have a crappy job that cant be one most of us would want. But they are also compensated heavily for it.

I wouldnt want to be working for the state right now. Thats for sure.
I will bet violence goes up to increase lockdowns so CO'S have overtime.
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If they strike the CHP and National Guard would step in. Prisons are on the verge of riots now the tension is so high. Maybe this is what would be needed for the Feds to step in and take control of the prisons away from California. It is a catch 22 situation - damned if you do and damned if you don't.

I agree it is a catch 22. You'd think the CO's would turn the damn air on, serve some decent food and try to keep the peace so they go home safe at night. But no lets play a pissing contest and she who's the bigger person to get a point across that's lost in both the government and the prison guards actions. I just don't get it.
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My son called yesterday and said things were really tense. I told him about the riot at PVSP and told him if anything happened there, get back to his cell and keep his ass there until it is over.
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