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Florida Sheriff Plans to Check for Warrants at Hurricane Shelters

As Hurricane Irma barreled down on his state, a county sheriff in Florida said on Wednesday that law enforcement authorities would check the identities of people who turn up at shelters and take to jail anyone found to have an active arrest warrant.
“If you go to a shelter for Irma and you have a warrant, we’ll gladly escort you to the safe and secure shelter called the Polk County Jail,” Grady Judd, the sheriff in Polk County, announced in a series of messages on Twitter.


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Well I mean if they are wanted then they have been doing things against the law. I guess everyone will have their own opinion about this.
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Yeah, I have an opinion - it's insane to broadcast the warrant search in the first place, because that will keep anyone who's worried (and their families) from getting into shelters in the first place. In second place, not all warrants are big deals. Third, it's an absurd waste of time and energy and manpower that are vitally important on other fronts when you have a category 4/5 hurricane bearing down on you.

As to your blithe 'they have been doing things against the law' - you KNOW better than that. They haven't been judged guilty of anything yet. And a whole lot of warrants are founded on nothing more than the (occasionally fabricated) word of LEO, without other foundation in reality.
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Well either way it's gonna happen. complaining about it here isn't going to stop anything. Have a good day.
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Well either way it's gonna happen. complaining about it here isn't going to stop anything. Have a good day.
Ain't you just a bowl of sunshine. I'll be sure to remember that's how you view forum participation in the future.

I couldn't believe it when they enforced immigration checkpoints during the days leading up to Harvey, it's the same BS checking warrants during Irma. It's disturbing that a government agency would put ANYTHING over saving a life.
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....read the article. Some warrants may be for something as small as not paying a damned traffic fine. Not everyone has expendable income and for some reason they would rather pay rent, or would rather buy food / medicine for their children....but I digress.

In situations such as this (hurricane) some things are - or should be - more important than taking the added time to check ID's and compare names against a list of outstanding warrants.
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As Hurricane Irma barreled down on his state, a county sheriff in Florida said on Wednesday that law enforcement authorities would check the identities of people who turn up at shelters and take to jail anyone found to have an active arrest warrant.
“If you go to a shelter for Irma and you have a warrant, we’ll gladly escort you to the safe and secure shelter called the Polk County Jail,” Grady Judd, the sheriff in Polk County, announced in a series of messages on Twitter.


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I have been through a whole life time of Hurricanes and believe me I have never seen or heard of them checking for warrants in a state of Emergency! Not saying they won't but even if they do no big deal. If you have ever been in the aftermath of a disaster then you would know that they don't discriminate because they don't have the manpower or capibilities to check for warrants. And frankly if you have a warrant take care of it. I get it sucks but I would put my families safety first!
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Well either way it's gonna happen. complaining about it here isn't going to stop anything. Have a good day.
Just complaining here won't fix anything, but perhaps complaining to state and local officials in Florida just might.

Send letters, email, or call the offices of the state legislators and county officials, expressing concern and dismay over this.

Demand that the Sheriff prioritize saving lives over checking immigration status and warrants for unpaid traffic tickets at shelters during an emergency. Remind them that whole families are affected, not just single individuals, putting many more lives at risk.

Maybe, just maybe, that will help. And maybe, if more people read these forums and get angry, more will actually call and write.
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[quote=Babyx;7661422]Remind them that whole families are affected, not just single individuals, putting many more lives at risk. QUOTE]

While I completely agree that checking for warrants during an emergency is stupid, petty, and dangerous.... parents that would risk their own lives and the lives of their children so that their partner doesn't go to jail need to have their heads examined. So do the people with the warrants that would expect that from their family.

Sounds like Sherriff Judd is just running his mouth because what he is suggesting is logistically impossible and unlikely to happen. But even if it does getting to a shelter is worth the risk. Nobody should risk their life to avoid a night in jail.
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The biggest issue I have with this is the not so subtle message that certain people are "unworthy" of any help and protection and better stay away. A stupid, dangerous, petty message as mentioned above.
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The biggest issue I have with this is the not so subtle message that certain people are "unworthy" of any help and protection and better stay away. A stupid, dangerous, petty message as mentioned above.
Absolutely. But this is just one guy who apparently likes to flex his muscles to intimidate others. The majority of LE would probably tell him to shut the hell up and focus on saving lives.
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I think this sheriff is just doing a token CYA statement. Yeah, he'd probably like to have the storm take every offender, SO or not, but he should be more concerned with the storm that worrying about warrants. If he was being swept away would he ask "are you a felon" before he took the help? No one wants to go to a shelter so if someone has a warrant, this is the last place they'd pick to show up. Just praying the storm doesn't do the damage it could & neither does that sheriff!
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This just touches a raw nerve after arguing for so long against an undercurrent that certain people are "unworthy" of adequate medical care. Nope. Can't make peace with that.
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If this is as bad as they say it will be, how will they have the time to do this? Manpower will be extremely limited and stretched beyond belief during and after the storm.

It is probably a scare tactic to keep anyone who might be violent away from shelters. Since large amounts of people who are scared in one small area is very difficult to control. Or a way to keep those going to shelters feeling "safe". I'm guessing here.

They have bigger things to deal with right now.
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So far no arrests reported, I figured as much.
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Yeah, but whose wife and kids are riding it out on some small hillock because her husband might have been arrested?
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Yeah, but whose wife and kids are riding it out on some small hillock because her husband might have been arrested?
Well if they that stupid to stay in an unsafe area to keep someone who has a warrant out of jail then sorry not my concern. I wouldn't even dare ask someone to put their life in danger to ride out a storm rather then seek safety so I didn't go to jail. Sorry that's just ignorant and stupid.
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No, it's not. It fear. It's the fear that this country has recently acquired an intolerance of vast proportions, ready to grab up anyone faintly Hispanic looking. It could be they don't have papers, or they couldn't pay a ticket, maybe it's murder, (but certainly that is the lowest number of warrants).

The statement was made to terrify people. No other reason. Deliberate. Hostile. Mean. Who cares if they don't come in, let 'em drown or blow away. It's totally vile.
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No, it's not. It fear. It's the fear that this country has recently acquired an intolerance of vast proportions, ready to grab up anyone faintly Hispanic looking. It could be they don't have papers, or they couldn't pay a ticket, maybe it's murder, (but certainly that is the lowest number of warrants).

The statement was made to terrify people. No other reason. Deliberate. Hostile. Mean. Who cares if they don't come in, let 'em drown or blow away. It's totally vile.
Wow I don't disagree with you it is vile, but I try to see the other side. If I know I have a warrant I take care of it, I don't avoid it because eventually something like this or even just calling the paramedics for someone can result in your name being run. But I certainly don't think its wrong for them to run warrant checks. Besides if they did run everyones names who went to a shelter it would have crashed the computer systems to do that many checks. To time consuming to be feasible.
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Besides if they did run everyones names who went to a shelter it would have crashed the computer systems to do that many checks. To time consuming to be feasible.
Then there was zero reason for them to make the announcement. It was purely a fear tactic.

I hope people took the risk to safety. I pray for those that couldn't.

What is happening to us that we can even dream up a justification for this?
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Now the sheriffs dept is posting on FB that people without ID will not be turned away from shelters.
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Then there was zero reason for them to make the announcement. It was purely a fear tactic.

I hope people took the risk to safety. I pray for those that couldn't.

What is happening to us that we can even dream up a justification for this?
I hope so too. I just know when a disaster like this happens they don't bother with any of this stuff. I had family who lost their homes in hurricane Andrew, no one could find their stuff no less their ID. No one gets turned away from a shelter. Most people who need shelters aren't worried about did I pay my parking tickets, and they shouldn't be. I get it and anyone who has been in the chaos of going to a shelter knows it doesn't matter.
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I believe there is so much chaos in this situation that that person who made that ridiculous statement will be sanctioned somehow. Not necessary to escalate panic, esp when what you claim is not even FEASIBLE!
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I believe there is so much chaos in this situation that that person who made that ridiculous statement will be sanctioned somehow. Not necessary to escalate panic, esp when what you claim is not even FEASIBLE!
He won't be sanctioned. This is his typical MO. He is applauded here.
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