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Old 09-04-2005, 03:00 PM
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The Two Americas
By Marjorie Cohn
t r u t h o u t | Perspective

Saturday 03 September 2005

Last September, a Category 5 hurricane battered the small island of Cuba with 160-mile-per-hour winds. More than 1.5 million Cubans were evacuated to higher ground ahead of the storm. Although the hurricane destroyed 20,000 houses, no one died.

What is Cuban President Fidel Castro's secret? According to Dr. Nelson Valdes, a sociology professor at the University of New Mexico, and specialist in Latin America, "the whole civil defense is embedded in the community to begin with. People know ahead of time where they are to go."

"Cuba's leaders go on TV and take charge," said Valdes. Contrast this with George W. Bush's reaction to Hurricane Katrina. The day after Katrina hit the Gulf Coast, Bush was playing golf. He waited three days to make a TV appearance and five days before visiting the disaster site. In a scathing editorial on Thursday, the New York Times said, "nothing about the president's demeanor yesterday - which seemed casual to the point of carelessness - suggested that he understood the depth of the current crisis."

"Merely sticking people in a stadium is unthinkable" in Cuba, Valdes said. "Shelters all have medical personnel, from the neighborhood. They have family doctors in Cuba, who evacuate together with the neighborhood, and already know, for example, who needs insulin."

They also evacuate animals and veterinarians, TV sets and refrigerators, "so that people aren't reluctant to leave because people might steal their stuff," Valdes observed.

After Hurricane Ivan, the United Nations International Secretariat for Disaster Reduction cited Cuba as a model for hurricane preparation. ISDR director Salvano Briceno said, "The Cuban way could easily be applied to other countries with similar economic conditions and even in countries with greater resources that do not manage to protect their population as well as Cuba does."

Our federal and local governments had more than ample warning that hurricanes, which are growing in intensity thanks to global warming, could destroy New Orleans. Yet, instead of heeding those warnings, Bush set about to prevent states from controlling global warming, weaken FEMA, and cut the Army Corps of Engineers' budget for levee construction in New Orleans by $71.2 million, a 44 percent reduction.

Bush sent nearly half our National Guard troops and high-water Humvees to fight in an unnecessary war in Iraq. Walter Maestri, emergency management chief for Jefferson Paris in New Orleans, noted a year ago, "It appears that the money has been moved in the president's budget to handle homeland security and the war in Iraq."

An Editor and Publisher article Wednesday said the Army Corps of Engineers "never tried to hide the fact that the spending pressures of the war in Iraq, as well as homeland security - coming at the same time as federal tax cuts - was the reason for the strain," which caused a slowdown of work on flood control and sinking levees.

"This storm was much greater than protection we were authorized to provide," said Alfred C. Naomi, a senior project manager in the New Orleans district of the corps.

Unlike in Cuba, where homeland security means keeping the country secure from deadly natural disasters as well as foreign invasions, Bush has failed to keep our people safe. "On a fundamental level," Paul Krugman wrote in yesterday's New York Times, "our current leaders just aren't serious about some of the essential functions of government. They like waging war, but they don't like providing security, rescuing those in need or spending on prevention measures. And they never, ever ask for shared sacrifice."

During the 2004 election campaign, vice presidential candidate John Edwards spoke of "the two Americas." It seems unfathomable how people can shoot at rescue workers. Yet, after the beating of Rodney King aired on televisions across the country, poor, desperate, hungry people in Watts took over their neighborhoods, burning and looting. Their anger, which had seethed below the surface for so long, erupted. That's what's happening now in New Orleans. And we, mostly white, people of privilege, rarely catch a glimpse of this other America.

"I think a lot of it has to do with race and class," said Rev. Calvin O. Butts III, pastor of the Abyssinian Baptist Church in Harlem. "The people affected were largely poor people. Poor, black people."

New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin reached a breaking point Thursday night. "You mean to tell me that a place where you probably have thousands of people that have died and thousands more that are dying every day, that we can't figure out a way to authorize the resources we need? Come on, man!"

Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff had boasted earlier in the day that FEMA and other federal agencies have done a "magnificent job" under the circumstances.

But, said, Nagin, "They're feeding the people a line of bull, and they are spinning and people are dying. Get off your asses and let's do something!"

When asked about the looting, the mayor said that except for a few "knuckleheads," it is the result of desperate people trying to find food and water to survive.

Nagin blamed the outbreak of violence and crime on drug addicts who have been cut off from their drug supplies, wandering the city, "looking to take the edge off their jones."

When Hurricane Ivan hit Cuba, no curfew was imposed; yet, no looting or violence took place. Everyone was in the same boat.

Fidel Castro, who has compared his government's preparations for Hurricane Ivan to the island's long-standing preparations for an invasion by the United States, said, "We've been preparing for this for 45 years."

On Thursday, Cuba's National Assembly sent a message of solidarity to the victims of Hurricane Katrina. It says the Cuban people have followed closely the news of the hurricane damage in Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama, and the news has caused pain and sadness. The message notes that the hardest hit are African-Americans, Latino workers, and the poor, who still wait to be rescued and taken to secure places, and who have suffered the most fatalities and homelessness. The message concludes by saying that the entire world must feel this tragedy as its own.

Marjorie Cohn <http://truthout.org/contactmc.php> , a contributing editor to t r u t h o u t, is a professor at Thomas Jefferson School of Law, executive vice president of the National Lawyers Guild, and the US representative to the executive committee of the American Association of Jurists.

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Thanks for sharing this haswtch.... Unfortunately, how true....

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haswtch, thanks, very enlightening.

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soooo sad though. who the he** are we exactly to be out there spreading our brand of "democracy" with assault weapons?
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Indeed..thanks for sharing this.
There are many many aspects of Cuba that the US is in denial over.
In people such denial is called mental illness!
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Great article haswtch, thanks for sharing.

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(1) Our country DOES have the resources, so let's not bring Iraq into it.
(2) Yes, Cuba and other places have a contingency plan and they know how to use it. WHY didn't Louisiana have such a plan?
(3) Yes, the feds, especially FEMA should have a plan and when Bush announced there could be an emergency (before the storm hit), WHY didn't FEMA contact the governors of the southern states and WHY didn't they put National Guard on alert for that weekend - so that they could move in there right away??
(4) WHY didn't the city of New Orleans have a disaster plan? WHY wasn't the mayor aggressive in making a few decisions? He could have mobilized all those buses to get people out of the convention center, couldn't he? Instead, he only cursed at the feds to get in there and help. I've still not heard him say one single word that "possibly" the local government could have done more and acted faster!
(5) Why didn't Bush go there the first day? With very limited police force, they couldn't take those policemen away from their duties to protect the President and his people, that's why. Because of security reasons, the trip had to be planned and that takes time. Had he gone there earlier, with all the thugs shooting guns, what if he'd been assassinated? Then what would people be saying?? I do feel that he might have gone on TV the very first day to say more, but I don't think that he was given enough info to realize just how horrific the situation was. Nobody knew at that point - and all have admitted it. Am not making excuses for any of those in authority - only stating a fact. Truthfully, you and I do not have all the facts so let's see what plays out over the coming weeks. It's too easy to sit here and make assumptions - as much of the media is doing.

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I do feel that he might have gone on TV the very first day to say more, but I don't think that he was given enough info to realize just how horrific the situation was.
You mean the president of the United States didn't have info on what had happened ???? You must be kidding, he probably was the first one to get info !!!! Even in Europe, thousands of miles away, we had info and videos of New Orleans after Katrina hit the city !!

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Not given enough info!!!! Good grief, all he had to do was switch on the television!!!!

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(1) Our country DOES have the resources, so let's not bring Iraq into it.
(2) Yes, Cuba and other places have a contingency plan and they know how to use it. WHY didn't Louisiana have such a plan?
(3) Yes, the feds, especially FEMA should have a plan and when Bush announced there could be an emergency (before the storm hit), WHY didn't FEMA contact the governors of the southern states and WHY didn't they put National Guard on alert for that weekend - so that they could move in there right away??
(4) WHY didn't the city of New Orleans have a disaster plan? WHY wasn't the mayor aggressive in making a few decisions? He could have mobilized all those buses to get people out of the convention center, couldn't he? Instead, he only cursed at the feds to get in there and help. I've still not heard him say one single word that "possibly" the local government could have done more and acted faster!
(5) Why didn't Bush go there the first day? With very limited police force, they couldn't take those policemen away from their duties to protect the President and his people, that's why. Because of security reasons, the trip had to be planned and that takes time. Had he gone there earlier, with all the thugs shooting guns, what if he'd been assassinated? Then what would people be saying?? I do feel that he might have gone on TV the very first day to say more, but I don't think that he was given enough info to realize just how horrific the situation was. Nobody knew at that point - and all have admitted it. Am not making excuses for any of those in authority - only stating a fact. Truthfully, you and I do not have all the facts so let's see what plays out over the coming weeks. It's too easy to sit here and make assumptions - as much of the media is doing.
With all the security he has in Washington, couldn't he take his own security with him? Besides, the city is supposed to be virtually empty now and he still isn't going on his visit to LA this week.
As for not having enough information, I think Phil and Rose have said it all. Unless it is that those of us in Europe were given more information at the beginning than the TV stations in the US were showing. Perhaps they were slow in going too?
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Peace...thanks, haswtch....Cuba, via Fidel's leadership...was able to have over 1 million people "saved" during it last huricane...not one life was lost.....how does a "back yard" country like Cuba, do that...perchance the city, state and federal gov't need to take some lessons from the people of Cuba....much respect!!! Blessings...
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I think what Cuba has retained that the US has lost is a sense of true community.
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True Community? You mean captive community, don't you? I guess the citizens of the U.S.S.R. were also a true community, however they are fleeing in great numbers now that the communist regime has fallen. Maybe you should visit Miami and ask the Cubans that have escaped Fidel's Cuba what they think about the true community they experienced over there. I was in prison with plenty of Cubans and they said they would rather do time in America's worst prisons than live in Cuba right now. They love their homeland but not under this dictators rule and the poverty that comes with it.
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Peace...thanks, haswtch....Cuba, via Fidel's leadership...was able to have over 1 million people "saved" during it last huricane...not one life was lost.....how does a "back yard" country like Cuba, do that...perchance the city, state and federal gov't need to take some lessons from the people of Cuba....much respect!!! Blessings...
Those are the figures that the Cuba free press reported, right? Then it must be fact.
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You mean the president of the United States didn't have info on what had happened ???? You must be kidding, he probably was the first one to get info !!!! Even in Europe, thousands of miles away, we had info and videos of New Orleans after Katrina hit the city !!
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My good friend, I dare say that nobody understood the full ramifications of what took place until at least a day or two after it happened. No aircraft with video (that we all saw) got in there until right before dark after the storm had finally cleared and aircraft could launch. If you will recall, the reports from the French Quarter (Imagine that - hehe) were misleading. (yes, Fox News reports, even! ) People thought New Orleans dodged the hurricane and the fall-out and the only people able to get reports were those on the ground in there. Unfortunately, we found out later that was wrong.
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My good friend, I dare say that nobody understood the full ramifications of what took place until at least a day or two after it happened. No aircraft with video (that we all saw) got in there until right before dark after the storm had finally cleared and aircraft could launch. If you will recall, the reports from the French Quarter (Imagine that - hehe) were misleading. (yes, Fox News reports, even! ) People thought New Orleans dodged the hurricane and the fall-out and the only people able to get reports were those on the ground in there. Unfortunately, we found out later that was wrong.
...and with that we are expected to be prepared to fight terrorism. Maybe our money (billions) would be better spent by wiser men and less pork!
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It takes something as big as Hurricane Katrina and the misery we saw among the poor black people of New Orleans to get America to focus on race and poverty. It happens about once every 30 or 40 years.

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I do not believe communism as it has been practiced solves any more problems than an unbridled free market. I think it is too easy for greed and lust for power to take over in either system and win out. But do I think there is something inherently evil about co-operation and something inherently righteous about competition- no I do not. With TRUE co-operation, freedom could coexist. I know, I am naive, right? But I like my dream better than Karl Rove's
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Has - check out communalism as explicated by Amitai Etzioni.

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I am extreme and crazy in my protest re the current situation in my country listen to the latest Ira Glass program on NPR

After the Flood
Surprising stories from survivors in New Orleans. Broadcast the weekend of September 9-11 in most places, or available via RealAudio next week. One of the teenagers interviewed in "After the Flood," Ashley Nelson, is the author of an amazing book called The Combination, about her neighborhood in New Orleans. All the copies that were available are now underwater. But The Neighborhood Stories Project, which collaborated with Ashley and several other New Orleans teenagers on books about their neighborhoods, plans to print another run as soon as possible.


See http://www.thislife.org/


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"I didn't know poverty was a crime and the punishment was death!"
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Titantoo - Cornell West does testify, doesn't he?
Nimuay, I don't understand your message, sorry (testify...to or in what?) but that makes it impossible for me to reply. PM me and I will so my best.
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Golfing.....sorry to say I think Kanye West was right.
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Those are the figures that the Cuba free press reported, right? Then it must be fact.
Fed-X...I think you would be surprised at the Cuba facts...not that it is a great country for me (I wouldn't chose to live there)...but Castro is and was a much better human being than Batista! I often think we live much more in a Fantasy land than Cuba does. I once saw an American Airlines map that just airbrushed Cuba off the world! B*H and his cohorts still live in the dark ages (and thats being charitable!)
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Fed-X...I think you would be surprised at the Cuba facts...not that it is a great country for me (I wouldn't chose to live there)...but Castro is and was a much better human being than Batista! I often think we live much more in a Fantasy land than Cuba does. I once saw an American Airlines map that just airbrushed Cuba off the world! B*H and his cohorts still live in the dark ages (and thats being charitable!)
I know a number of people who lived through Batista and a good part of Castro's tenure who would strongly disagree. Even the worst tyrants often make some things better. Hitler got Germany out a horrible economic turmoil. Mussolini got the trains to run on time. Stalin moved the Soviet Union into being a major industrial and military power.

Batista was mostly a puppet for organized crime. Although Castro did improve the lot of many poor Cubans, he did so at a very unacceptable price.
 

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