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For anybody who's interested, the ACLU has responded to the recent ICE raids by publish a couple of videos that are instructive to people who might find ICE at their door. Harder to find are a couple of cards that people can keep in their back pocket and pull out when there's that knock at the door. If I've attached the jpg files properly, there should be two copies of this advice, one in English and one in Spanish attached to this post. Please share liberally - you never know who's at risk because of these raids.
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Thank you. I've got a lot of pockets to put these in. :/
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This is still important. there are raids going on and immigration status is being checked at roadblocks in some areas. If Trump turns out the national guard (doubtful that it's legal), there may be a lot more of these.

Please, make sure those in danger know their rights!

I am not an immigration lawyer, but the ACLU has a bunch and they are working tirelessly on this new administration's stupid policy about immigration.

Those of you who are citizens, please make sure you contact your elected officials and voice your disproval of these policies! The more people shout, the more we are heard.

Congrats to all who did the Day without Immigrants. It is so important that people are seen and heard, including those who are illegal. It might be dangerous atm to be seen and heard directly, but go anonymous and be heard.

The more we all protect each other, the more our voices are heard, the sooner this nonsense is stopped and the sooner lives are left to their own devices without undue interference.
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My friend and I are printing and dropping these off in public spaces on Sunday.

I saw the National Guard headline, but then saw a follow-up that the White House is denying the report. Way to keep people sleeping in their tennis shoes. :/
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My friend and I are printing and dropping these off in public spaces on Sunday.

I saw the National Guard headline, but then saw a follow-up that the White House is denying the report. Way to keep people sleeping in their tennis shoes. :/
They lie...about everything. Thank you for printing and passing out flyers....that's pretty awesome
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They lie...about everything. Thank you for printing and passing out flyers....that's pretty awesome
I honestly think it was a lie but an intentional lie to keep people nervous and to shake people out. I know the Dreamers in my community are scared. Not because he's said he'll repeal DACA (Obama stated Trump understands what it means to maintain his image), but because of the talk around refusing to renew work permits. 18-20 year-olds under DACA need those work permits, without them...they're high priority for deportation. We have parents in town looking to house their Dreamers with other families in preparation for their own deportation. It's heartbreaking.

And we've seen in the last week that ICE is looking for thin ties to criminal gang activity to press deportation which is legal under DACA. That's scary.
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re National Guard - The white House is denying because somebody finally pointed out to them that calling out the NG for this purpose would be an instant challenge in the courts, with a pretty instant injunction. It would negate any arrests made by NG troops, and create a mess.

The problem there is that it would also make a mess of a lot of lives.

This shit isn't funny, and trump needs to stop. Now. And get competent counsel.
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Last week Border Patrol was spotted in Oklahoma. We are no where near the border. I used to live in south Texas, and used to go shopping in Mexico, so I'm familiar with Border Patrol. But why are they way up here????
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Counsel, as in an attorney....or Counselor, as in a therapist. You don't have to answer that I believe he has issues that neither Counsel or a Counselor can resolve. JMHO


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Last week Border Patrol was spotted in Oklahoma. We are no where near the border. I used to live in south Texas, and used to go shopping in Mexico, so I'm familiar with Border Patrol. But why are they way up here????

nonamesleftlol....we have folks with deportation orders that have checked in with ICE every year yet been allowed to stay for years, raising their families....perhaps Border Patrol now has a list of those folks Not saying they do! And I hope that's not the case. Just a random thought on my part
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That could be! I am Native American and a lot of my Native American friends are saying make sure you are carrying your tribal ID cards with you at all times, just in case.
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Just like with the immigrant ban, even after it was enjoined by the courts, ICE and Border Patrol continued to enforce it anyway. Lawyers were denied access to "detained" travelers, even those who had "green cards", in direct violation of court orders that directed both agencies to allow the lawyers to represent them.

I can understand why the new administration continues to ignore any court orders they disagree with, at least until sanctions are imposed against them, but when the US Department of Justice and two federal law enforcement agencies are willing to flaunt the federal courts, that is especially disheartening.

It is a lesson we all learned under Bush/Cheyney, wars based on fabricated evidence and torture after one government lawyer writes a memo saying torture is not torture, an earlier example of "alternative facts". If the president wants it, it will be nearly impossible to stop him.
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I can’t believe this post.

You have several people posting here, One who’s states they are an Attorney, then three Site Moderators and a couple of regular users.

Four of them should be ashamed of themselves.

The attorney is held to a higher standard because of their job title and they are supposed to know the laws and guide their clients accordingly.

The three Site Moderators are held to a higher standard because they are here to enforce the rules of this site.

We are ALL here because someone we know, someone we love or even ourselves have broken the laws and are being punished for them.

Yet you are congratulating each other for encouraging and even helping to some degree, others to continue to break the law.

Think about that.
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"Four of them should be ashamed of themselves."

I have no idea what you are talking about. What "law" or PTO policy are we being accused of violating? It isn't illegal (yet) to disagree with the president, especially when we are in agreement with the federal courts who also say he has overstepped his authority.
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I can’t believe this post.

You have several people posting here, One who’s states they are an Attorney, then three Site Moderators and a couple of regular users.

Four of them should be ashamed of themselves.

The attorney is held to a higher standard because of their job title and they are supposed to know the laws and guide their clients accordingly.

The three Site Moderators are held to a higher standard because they are here to enforce the rules of this site.

We are ALL here because someone we know, someone we love or even ourselves have broken the laws and are being punished for them.

Yet you are congratulating each other for encouraging and even helping to some degree, others to continue to break the law.

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No one is encouraging anyone to break the law. How is letting others know what their rights are in this political climate anything to be ashamed of? I'm confused by your post
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shadow kisses, it's pretty clear that what really bothers you is that those you listed are not in favor of one of trump's policies. There are lots more of us who aren't. In particular, though, creating an illegal order to catch unpapered immigrants doesn't seem quite, um, kosher.
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What really upset me was arresting/detaining folks with visas and green cards (some of which required them to apply for over 15 years), and then denying them the free assistance offered by a large number of lawyers.

I'm fairly sure that the overreaching wasn't micromanaged by the White House, but it happened when ICE and Homeland Security (after the acting Attorney General was fired for refusing to arrest legal permanent residents of the US who were returning home) decided to please the administration rather than to obey the federal courts.

It won't happen, but refusing to follow the orders of the court should result in "show cause" contempt of court orders against whoever issued the instructions to defy the judge. That's the best way to get their attention, and also to affect their future actions.
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I'm sorry this is how you interpreted the information shared, but as Patchouli pointed out, we want people to know what their rights are should ICE attempt to detain them. Telling someone their legal rights when interacting with enforcement agencies is the law. But we know that's not always the way it's done. We all understand how important Miranda warnings are, this is no different.

Something that I'd like to point out is that the young people here under DACA do have legal protection and the right to be here. But in a sweep, they are at risk as well. Trying to figure out what to do when you're watching your loved ones questioned and detained is too late. I want them to have the information before it happens.
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Know your rights. It doesn't matter if you were born here or are an illegal alien, you have rights because you are in the US. This includes Constitutional protections listed by the ACLU - a bunch of lawyers who put out videos on your rights as a person in the US, as well as the downloadable and printable slides listed above in both English and Spanish.

As an attorney, I'm well aware that everybody has Constitutional protections when their feet are on US soil. If you know the law, you know this. I am not encouraging people to break the law - I am encouraging them to embrace their rights as people in the US.

This is especially important for those people of color who may be deported without benefit of counsel when ICE comes along with a shoddy "warrant" not issued by a judge.

Look, my ex and his family are refugees from the former USSR. They are now full blown citizens, and have been for decades. Unfortunately, they have internalized the laws of the USSR for when you are detained and questioned. As a result, they don't even think about asking for an attorney, or saying "no" to a search of their house or their car. In their upbringing, the best thing they could do is allow LE to do anything and everything they want, whether they were breaking the law or not. It is reflex. Retraining that reflex, especially when you're scared that your spouse or your parents may be arrested and deported without due process and without the help of an attorney is very difficult. Having the ability to say, "no, you do not have my permission to enter my house or question the folks inside" is a big thing.

Not having your papers on you at all times - this is not rape and murder. Being illegal and working migrant farm work is not rape and murder. Illegals are not taking jobs away from citizens. Most pay taxes to the US. Most have legal families including young children. This is such a common occurrence that many Presidents have declared or thought of declaring an amnesty for those in the US illegally so that they could get papers and become legal. This is the whole point of the DREAMERS program Obama put into place. Some who could very easily become DREAMERS do not because of fear that registering anything about themselves would put their entire family and community in the crosshairs of a trump driven ICE.

Why the hell do you think there are immigration lawyers specializing in those who are undocumented? Do you really think that they are acting unethically?

Why do you think the ACLU made a call for any and all attorneys who were available to go, pro bono, to the airports to assist those trying to gain entry to the US whether on a resident visa or a non-resident visa (including but not limited to those seeking to vacation in the US, to do business with US businesses, and to attend school)?

Somebody needs to learn a bit more about the law and about attorney ethics before asserting that I'm encouraging people to break the law. No, I'm encouraging anybody and everybody to know and assert their rights under the US Constitution.

And should you run into me in the courts and tell me that representing an immigrant, resident, non-resident, or undocumented, expect me to use language that would get the moderators upset.

There's a big (obscenity) YOU attached to this.

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downloadable and printable slides listed above in both English and Spanish.


They've included more languages for the Muslim population:

What to do when faced with anti-Muslim discrimination

With discrimination against American Muslims on the rise, we have put together printable cards that highlight your rights. Print and share them in your communities.

English | (Arabic) العَرَبِيَّة‎‎ | فارسی (Farsi)
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They've included more languages for the Muslim population:

What to do when faced with anti-Muslim discrimination

With discrimination against American Muslims on the rise, we have put together printable cards that highlight your rights. Print and share them in your communities.

English | (Arabic) العَرَبِيَّة‎‎ | فارسی (Farsi)
Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) | (Urdu) اُردُو‎


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I was waiting for these to come out. Thanks for posting them. Hopefully those near these population centers or a part of these populations will get the information into the hands of those most vulnerable.
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Here is another link to pocket guides that include Arabic, Chinese, and Korean.

That site also has a current news feed regarding immigration.
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The head of homeland security announced today that they are hiring 10,000 new immigration agents (so much for the federal hiring freeze) and that all restrictions about who can or can not be deported have been eliminated. His announcement is based on the presidential orders that initiated the freeze on immigrants/visitors/green card holders etc. from 7 predominantly Muslim countries. No predominantly Muslim country that has a Trump hotel was included in the orders, but I'm sure that was merely an oversight.
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I thought green card holders and Dreamers were going to be exempt If they're not, expect many more, and larger, demonstrations
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"The officials [...] made clear that nothing in the directives would change the program known as Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, which provides work permits and deportation protection for the young people commonly referred to as Dreamers."

The bulk of the expansion is aimed at people who have had brushes with the law. Under Obama, "serious crimes" were prioritized for deportation, but current administration has expanded to "anyone convicted of any criminal offense". Additionally, "Under the Obama administration, expedited removal was used only within 100 miles of the border for people who had been in the country no more than 14 days. Now it will include those who have been in the country for up to two years, and located anywhere in the nation."

They're also expanding the use of local law enforcement as de facto ICE agents in order to reach more communities.

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Oh, this makes so much sense. NOT!

I'm wagering that there will be a number of fights, especially from communities that don't want to see 3 year olds deported because they haven't been here for more than 2 years. Especially when people are subject to blackmail and increased brutalization from "citizens" because they can no longer report crimes, seek domestic violence help, or report unsafe conditions for fear that they are charged with a "brush with the law".

I'm also sure that taxpayers really want to see their LEO working to deport instead of working to protect and serve their communities.

The idea seems to be aimed at eliminating the biggest threats to the US. The idea that undocumented and documented immigrants and visitors are the biggest threats is absurd. Way to break up families in the name of making America "white" again, (obscenity standing in for the word "trump")
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