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Old 07-17-2017, 08:23 AM
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What happens if parole rejects a home plan but parolee maxes out sentence? Can probation reject a home?

my friend is an SVP and parole rejected his homeplan because a minor lived in the apartment above. He has now maxed out, can he then move into the residence that parole had rejected? When landlord said that upstaris tenants were moving out at end of month parole agent said that it is fine for him to move in then. Well what does that mean if the next tenant that moves in has a minor child? Is he supposed to break lease and go homeless?
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I'm guessing that he'll be on Lifetime Supervision....his PO can reject his homeplan even though he's maxed out due to his being on supervision. If a new tenant with minor children moves in upstairs, he'll have to report that and if his PO says "move," he'll have to move - to a pre-approved address. Some states allow sex offenders to parole homeless, others do not....I'm not sure about PA.

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it is life-time registration, but his parole is ended and now on probation so his obligation to the State is over. Philadelphia does not offer pre-approved housing and the many of the stipulations have been rescinded such as distance from schools, playgrounds ect. There is at least one registered sex offender living on every street in his area, and he can not Live with a minor but living around them is an unavoidable fact of life. Now that parole is over with, instead of being homeless can he not simply move into the place and just inform the police and then his probation officer of where he is. I cant believe that the intent of the law is to have homelessness metastasize
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Unless PA is really different than KY, as long as he has a PO he'll still need his PO's approval and permission to move.

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He's SVP, they can move him to a secure treatment facility if he cannot parole homeless because of his status. At least this is what they do the last I checked with SVPs in another jurisdiction
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he was paroled to a CCC (thank you bobble60 for all your hard work in getting that to happen) but now that parole is over he is being released from the CCC to a transient status
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Okay so the only difference between parole and special probation, in philadelphia, is in where they incarcerate you: parole= state prison, probation= county, otherwise all the conditions of parole remain. Which I dont understand, according to all the paperwork that he signed the authority of the parole board was supposed to end with his sentence and authority returned to the judge regardless if it's state supervised, county, whatever the po is beholden to the conditions of probation set forth by the judge. But this is not so.

So probation still requires a home plan, untill then he is a lease holding, bill paying, legitimized homeless person. If any one has questions regarding CEC's, or the OSH (office of homeless services) please feel free to direct my way and I will answer the best I can as to what to expect or how to go about it.
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I will try to help you through some of this. Everything hinges on whether or not his probation is state-supervised.

First, if he has state-supervised probation, then the home plan requirements will be the same as if he was on state parole. The PBPP doesn't split hairs. In fact, his probation officer would have been the same as his parole agent.

You're correct in saying that a person who violates probation must appear before the sentencing court for their hearings, as opposed to parolees whose hearings are before the PBPP. That's really the only difference.

If he wants to challenge a home plan rejection while on probation, he can do that in court, but usually it won't happen until he's been locked up on a violation.

Now, OSH can get him into a shelter. Their requirement is that he has to have a face-to-face interview in order to be placed, which he can do on probation or if he's walking off his parole. There are plenty of places in Philadelphia which will accept him, including Our Brother's Place in Center City.

We do not have "secure treatment facilities", nor do we have civil commitment in Pennsylvania.

So, it all comes down to three things: 1) Does the person with whom he proposes to live actually want him there? 2) Does the landlord approve and put him on the lease? 3) Does the Probation Officer (and actually his or her supervisor) approve?
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OHS got him into a shelter and his landlord is going to transfer his lease to a different property and give that a try. As for his previous apartment there was no violation of Megan's law or parole/probation conditions just the choice of his new p.o. to reject it. His previous parole agent felt it was an invalid reason to reject homeplan but he is a parole agent solely for the CEC, it was still a nice sentiment.

And interestingly enough the homeless shelter is far more aggressive than the CEC in providing people with access to resources.

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