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Old 10-13-2011, 02:22 PM
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Default How long can they hold you for murder as a juvenile offender?

If you are young, I don't think that they can hold you for that long.

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Old 01-12-2012, 02:07 PM
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They can hold you for life. Many states dont have a minimum age for life sentences. My husband is a juvenile life. Go to the Human Rights Watch and find the section on THE REST OF THEIR LIVES.... it will tell you alot.
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Indeed, exactly as Shawnee said, it depends on the state where they are charged. Many states don't have a minimum age and will charge a juvenile as an adult in murder cases.

FYI - The USA is the only country in the world that does this. In the entire world, there are less than a dozen inmates serving juvenile LWOP...in America, about 3000 have been sentenced to spend their entire lives behind bars for crimes committed before they were 18.
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Yes,this is true.
Being a youth offender does not mean they will not charge you as an adult,try you as an adult and them sentence you as if you were an adult.
What it does mean is that they will hold you as a juvenile and your access to people other than direct family will be sadly lacking.
This is until you go to prison.
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Forever if they want to. My husband has been in prison 21 years; since he was 15 years old... sentenced to 25-50 years. The judge may as well said " Mr. Jones..... I hereby sentence you to.. FOREVER and a day"
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wow thank you very much for the info
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I don't know how they expect anyone to re-integrate into society after basically growing up in prison!
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Exactly! They aren't thinking of re-entry. They aren't thinking of all the facts that pertain to a youth. Something that happened to my man, is that when he was 15, they manipulated him to waiving his rights to juvenile court and directly put him to adult. They scared him and he was already feeling terrible for what he had done so he was "punishing himself" instead of trying to fight for "better" sentence.
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Exactly! They aren't thinking of re-entry. They aren't thinking of all the facts that pertain to a youth. Something that happened to my man, is that when he was 15, they manipulated him to waiving his rights to juvenile court and directly put him to adult. They scared him and he was already feeling terrible for what he had done so he was "punishing himself" instead of trying to fight for "better" sentence.

How does a juvenile waive his own rights, don't the parents have any jurisdiction over a child? Manipulate him, again where are the parents? I didn't think they interrogate children, even a 15 yo alone. I say this not knowing anything, just an assumption of what I thought.
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Life without parole is the maximum for first degree murder. It's heartbreaking that the US put their children and juveniles behind bars for the rest of their lives. Actually, only the USA and Somalia have LWOP for juveniles.
I keep my fingers crossed that they won't give him such a harsh punishment!

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They can try u as an adult
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We are doing 17 years of a LWOP sentece ( He's 33)
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As the parent of a juvenile offender I had the right to be with him at every hearing, probation meeting, everything involved legally with him. I went to them all and he got put in jail for 8 months that first time.
If the parents do not want to be involved, don't care or aren't alive then the juvenile can ask for another relative to be there. The attorneys consulted me every step of the way because I was THERE to make sure whatever could be done was done.
After meeting many young men in the juvenile justice system it was sobering to see boys as young as 14 and 15 who seemed to have no regrets for the henious crimes they did so.....not all juveniles are sweet kids and a very few are bona fide sociopaths.
I feel for the poster above who did not have parents show up and help him. Sad.
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In Ohio, they decide whether to charge the juvenile as a adult if that happens they stay in juvenile detention until they are 18, then jail then to prison to complete their sentence. If they are not tried as an adult they go to the Ohio Department of Youth Services and are held until they are 21.
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Exactly...What a waste of our youth. This is not a solution, but more of the problem with the juvenile justice system. In Ohio we fought the legislature to have an age limit where a child can be tried as an adult and they have to have extensive forensic testing before trying them as an adult is an option. It's not the best solution, but Ohio at least addressed the issue and set laws that guide the judicial system when dealing with our youth. The trouble with the juvenile system is that kids can't vote, so when funding is cut from the government, this system is always hit hard. Politicians deal with lobbiest and believe me juveniles are not on their list of concerns.
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my son was a juvenile when the crime was commited.he was charged as an adult ...spent 5 years in an adult prision. awaiting release.So in some states age means anything.

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Kyles momma what's state was you son tried as and adult and what was the offense if you don't mind me asking
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Kyles momma what's state was you son tried as and adult and what was the offense if you don't mind me asking
This thread is from 2012. You're not going to get much of an answer.

Most states allow for the removal of juveniles to adult court at age 14-15. States like WI mandate that certain crimes - murder and attempted murder among them - start in adult court at age 12. They can be removed to juvenile court, but they start in adult court.

While JLWOP is a thing of the past, SCOTUS mandating that juveniles have some chance of getting out in the future, it doesn't mean that they are ever getting out. The ruling essentially turns JLWOP into a standard life sentence, with the possibility of parole decades later. And, as we all know, the chance of parole decades later does not mean that the person will ever parole.
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