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Old 05-25-2007, 02:32 PM
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I guess I need to be a little bit more open minded because I carry a lot of resentment around with me because of some of the things I have experianced with the CO's at my wife's unit. You are correct that they are all humans and just as unruley inmates can be the one's responsible for giving the prison poulation a bad name so can those bad CO's. When a CO mistreats or abuses my wife I become furios, want to scream. I once told my wife about a friendly CO I encountered in visitaion while waiting for her to come out and come to find out this CO was one of the worst about abusing their power over the offenders. She asked a lot of personal questions that I thought were being asked out of concern and because she cared but it wasn't two weeks later that she was using the information I so stupidly offered to her against my wife. I know there has to be good CO's out there I guess I just haven't met them yet. I use PTO to become wiser to the system, learning from my famaly's experiances. I won't make this the exception and will go out in search of that, "Sorry" those decent CO's!
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Since I have been going to for visits I have only had one minor incident that happended when the CO did not announce Kaye to come for visit. I waited 30 minutes before going and ask if they called her. I was very rudely told they announced it once and there was nothing they could do. After the unit manager called to find out if I was there and not in so politely words told them they had not announced it; I have not had any more rudeness. I have been so much now I am a known face and they acutally joke and cut up with me during sign in and talk to me while I am waiting for my wife. I know there are those who make it their job in life to treat inmates like subhumans but I think for the most part the CO's are and can be nice if given the chance. A lot has to do with the way they are trained; that inmates have no rights and this includes being treated with respect. They are told that if given the chance the inmate will take advantage therefore show them you are not easy and so and so on. So bottom line is not to blame the CO but the system itself.
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You are correct in saying not all are bad, in fact there are some that are pretty decent and when they do something "correct" but a little on the nice side...say thank you....it means a lot to people...

I finally got my contact visits with my husband after almost 2 months and I sat on the same side of the table as he did (did not know I was not supposed to). We had three people visiting at a 4 person table....so someone had to sit next to him. They made the minor (my daughter) sit next to him...apparently they have a rule ....its texas you know...

well the CO let me sit there for a good hour (half the visit) then kindly told me to swich places with my daughter. I said thank you...I would not want to screw it up with the first visit...and he smiled and said...you didn't...go enjoy the rest of your visit.

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I'm no CO expert, but I never had a problem with them, as far as visiting. My husband said that he didn't have a problem with them, either. He said as long as the inmates treated them with respect, the CO's wouldn't bother them. I think it's like any other group of people--of course there are going to be some bad CO's on a power trip, but there are plenty who are just trying to do their job, be professional, and go home.

Also, the CO's do have to take alot of crap from inmates. Sometimes we act like they are all sitting there like choirboys while serving their sentence. Maybe our family members aren't doing anything wrong, but there are plenty of inmates who are. My husband said that some of the inmates used to harrass the guards, say things like, 'If we weren't in here, I would kick your a--.' And some made sexual comments to the female CO's that were uncalled for. So we have to look at both sides of the coin.
As Prison Officers,Or CO's As you call them in the States ,We DO PUT UP WITH AN AWFUL AMOUNT OF SHIT FROM PRISONERS..... No matter what they say..... WE DONT LOOK FOR TROUBLE.... Why the F... would I go to work for trouble??????? It doesn't make sense.....Ireland is amuch smaller place and the relationships between the Staff and prisoners are normally much more relaxed.. we dont carry mace or batons or any of that rubbish that the Jailers over there have... and it creates a less intimidating atmosphere....In my opinion if a prisoner see's a baton on an officer he'll think "fuck it I'll try take that off him and really fuck him up", so it leads to violence...
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There were 3 CO's at our last place that were really nice. One female CO always made a point to come over and talk to us. Another one always talked to Ben about fishing. And one was about our age and visited our hometown often so we would all talk about the places to go, etc. Ben loved hearing about how it had changed so much since he left. As others have said, there are always some that aren't so nice, but that's everywhere you go when you deal with people.
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When I go to visit...there's one CO inparticular that is extremely nice, friendly, & talkative. I appreciate that so much. For the most part...they've all been cordial to me. There's one that can be "hard"...but I think that's just her...her personality. It's hard enough on the loved ones of inmates having to go through the whole process of steppig out of the outside world...to entering into theirs. We did not commit the crime...& don't feel we should be treated indifferently.
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I had a really great experience with the CO's at my fiances Fire Camp. When I went to visit for the first time last weekend the two that were on duty that day knew I had flown in from NY to CA to surprise him. He did not think he would see me until next Oct. Well when they called him to the office for the visit they did not say why they wanted him to come to the office. Then they had me hide in a hall way and one of the CO's stood in front of me so he could not see me as he was walking into the office. When he was finally in the office the one CO standing in front of me moved over so he could see me. Boy was he surprised. He came over to me and just hugged me for like ever. The CO's were great in helping me with my surprise and we it worked out great.
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A C/O will usually give what he gets. I start off talking to all inmates with respect, but if you come up with the attitude, I'm through with you. I do what my job specifies for all inmates, which is security and safety. I am going to do a favor (such as looking up a court date, calling a certain staff member, etc.) for inmates that ask politely and have never given me any trouble. Come up to me and tell me what I need to do, then forget it. I will also shoot the s*** with most inmates, watch football with them when it is on, etc.

Someone said it before, we just want to do our job and go home. I don't come to work with the thought "who am I gonna tear into today?" It is more like "I hope it's a quiet night." Sometimes we gotta do things that inmates don't like, like shakedowns. It is nothing personal, they need to just suck it up, be quiet, and let us do our job and we will be out of their area. If they are clean, then they have nothing to worry about. Sometimes everyone gets to rowdy and we have to lockdown. Again, suck it up and go to your house. The ones who want to mouth off, show some attitude and make a show out of it are the ones who we are not gonna be very nice to and might end up having a bad day themselves.
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I only had 3 co's that have treated my husband well! Overall 95% of them in my experience are cruel people. They have done alot of crap to my husband and I really can't stand most of them. And the co's almost costed my husband his life. I don't have any feeling nor compassion for any of them. My husband was been constantly harrassed by them for 4 years! They have caused more problems than help my husband. I am happy that the rest of you had great experiences with them, but I can't stand most of them! When I hear about a co getting beating up by an inmate. I laugh and say to myself they probaly deserved it! I know how I sound and I know I am usually very positive on my postings, but I have alot of hurt and anger for the way my husband has been treated, and I can hardly wait when he comes home because I have kept notes with dates and times and how they have violated my husbands rights in prison. Once he's out I'll sue them! I feel alot better getting this off my chest.
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The Co's at the prison we visit have ALL been great. We all joke around every time & they are very nice to my kids. All the staff has been wonderful! Thanks go out to them!
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My visit this past month included encounters with several guards who worked so hard at being friendly that it was almost humorous. One said "we've got everything set up so it'll be a bit more intimate for y'all"--this for a non-contact visit with a guard with very sharp ears sitting about ten feet away the whole time. Another recommended several area restaurants and hoped I'd found a nice place to stay. As I was leaving, the required escort asked how my visit had gone and hoped everything had been "real nice" (wasn't quite sure how to answer that one--"oh yes....love the razor wire?"). There was a certain surreality to it all.

Not sure if any of this seems at all humorous to anyone else, but to me, nervous as all get out at the prospect of visiting a maximum security prison, it almost had me giggling more than once. I didn't realize how tensed up I'd been until I was buzzed through the last gate and halfway back to my car. But once that gate closed behind me, I could feel the tension draining out of me. Mind, at the same moment, I started missing my friend so badly....

Somehow I suspect that visitors see a very different face on these folks than the inmates do. They were nice to me at least and I have to credit them for that. Particularly the one who had to sit nearby and "observe" for four hours with no one else present and to all appearances nothing else to do. That would be a dreary job, though at least she appeared to have a comfortable chair.
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You know, very few Co's have ever been rude in the years that I visited my son in federal and state and while visiting my husband. I am polite , was raised to be. I don't act hard and foolish. I don't try to break the rules. I just go and visit and leave. You always have a few but that's the whole human race, no matter what job they have.
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At my last visit with my man the co I dealt with was really nice and I commited to my man about him and he said yeah most of there gaurds are cool there just here to do a job. He said if you treat them with respect they usually treat you with respect.
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At my last visit with my man the co I dealt with was really nice and I commited to my man about him and he said yeah most of there gaurds are cool there just here to do a job. He said if you treat them with respect they usually treat you with respect.
That is the best way to put it. Treat C/O's like garbage, guess what?

And by mutual respect, that means consistant, not just when they want something. I see inmates act like a**es most of the time and then when they want something, they turn on the "charm". If an inmate is consistantly respectful, I am more inclined to go out of my way to help him/her out. Inmates will say "he didn't help me and I was nice. I asked politely and everything!" Yeah, well maybe he remembers the 95% of the time that he/she acted like an a** and decided that their sincerity was lacking.
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I want to say thank you for writting this i was a co and i know that some of them are not as nice as others. I always tried to be nice to the inmates because i was not there to judge and i do not walk on water so there for i can not be mean to them becuase they are human too. I guess that is why i found the love of my life and the man of my dreams. We were not all bad.
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well the behavior of the CO"s here is consistent. The one's who are rude, are consistently rude, the one's who are nice are consistently nice. I had a run in with one of the rude one's yesterday, it was involving a valentines card my son forgot was in his pocket. All Mr. Rude had to do was talk to me about it. Instead, he was rude about it and kinda shook my son up.I understand CO's are human and have bad days too. My son thinks he did something dreadfully wrong. I love my man to death but I will stop visiting if that guy says something wrong to my son. My son comes first. Honestly, I will probably get my visits terminated if he says something to my son. It's one thing to do your job, its another to be NASTY!
I thought of filing a complaint, but hunny just got out of the hole, I dont want to stir up any trouble.
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It was a strange situation for me to visit the Polunsky Unit in Texas for the first time - the prison where my man is waiting for the lethal injection...
How would it be? How would they treat me? Me, the loved one of one of these "monsters" they have locked up in there? I was scared, excited, I felt uncomfortable. I saw young guys arriving in officers uniforms, they looked like school boys. I saw officers joking and fooling around in front of these doors, which seperate my man from the society. I saw normal life and normal people. Everybody was nice to me, helped me, I got compliments for having such wonderful blue eyes...as a loved one of a Death Row inmate. I was visiting my man behind glass, talking through a phone, for sixteen hours in three days and finally they esorted him back to his cell. Handcuffed. They wasn`t smiling at him.
When I left the Unit to fly back to Europe, the officers smiled at me and they said: Bye. Have a nice day.
The door was closed behind me, the sun was shining, joking officers around me...everything normal.
I met friendly officers. Normal people. Like you and me. And since then I asked myself again and again:
How could that be? These nice people will escorte my man one day to the execution chamber. Whats wrong in this world?
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It's a job and most of us try to make the best of it. I always try to be nice by saying "good morning", "thank you', "your welcome", etc. because I believe that courtesy is contagious with a lot of people. Sometimes I might say good morning to an inmate and they may say "What the **** is so good about it? I'm in jail!" I just shrug it off and continue on.
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Courtesy CAN be contagious, and role-modeling it is, to my mind, adding extra value to the time you spend on the job.
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I did a year and a half in ICIW and I would have to say 90 percent of the co's were great people to know and were there to offer advice. I know who Loretta, Wolffe, Godwin,and quite a few others are and am greatful for their advice and support while I was incarcerated. A few of the other employees also,like Tim Mike And Dan who were awesome!!! So yeah they are human and are trying to do their jobs,and some go the extra mile to help!!
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In my experience, it's like they've said... Once in a while, you run across a CO who thinks his/her mission in life is to go to work and punish the inmates who are in "his/her" prison. Most of them are there to do their job, and they understand that their job is not to punish the inmates - their punishment is being there in the first place, away from society and their loved ones - but to watch over them and make sure that things are kept orderly and safe. Most of the CO's where I was would treat everyone with whatever respect they were given. They knew that they'd get the same pay to come in and have an easy shift where they could sit and b.s., watch tv, etc. as they would if they always had to be on guard for retaliation for pissing off the wrong guy! They're mostly just normal people that have chosen a very difficult and dangerous profession and, like most people, will give back whatever respect and courtesy they are given.
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No not all co'sare bad!! In fact some are on the awesome side!!! It's just like very thing else in life!!There are good and bad apples everywhere!!I havent persoaly had a problem with any except the time when they werent going to let me in because i have a pacemaker in and set the bells to ringing lol...now the one co and i joke about my needing a special pat down ,,shes been great! my son did tho but already talked about..lol..just a bad apple...but to all the good apples THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!
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Where i visit for the most part the C/O's are nice but there are a couple of them that are my favorites. They always go out of their way to be nice and when i'm upset, crying or just need to be close to my husband they just let me be close and don't ever say a word and just look the other way.
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A C/O will usually give what he gets. I start off talking to all inmates with respect, but if you come up with the attitude, I'm through with you. I do what my job specifies for all inmates, which is security and safety. I am going to do a favor (such as looking up a court date, calling a certain staff member, etc.) for inmates that ask politely and have never given me any trouble. Come up to me and tell me what I need to do, then forget it. I will also shoot the s*** with most inmates, watch football with them when it is on, etc.

Someone said it before, we just want to do our job and go home. I don't come to work with the thought "who am I gonna tear into today?" It is more like "I hope it's a quiet night." Sometimes we gotta do things that inmates don't like, like shakedowns. It is nothing personal, they need to just suck it up, be quiet, and let us do our job and we will be out of their area. If they are clean, then they have nothing to worry about. Sometimes everyone gets to rowdy and we have to lockdown. Again, suck it up and go to your house. The ones who want to mouth off, show some attitude and make a show out of it are the ones who we are not gonna be very nice to and might end up having a bad day themselves.

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