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Pablo Velez Jr. was wrongfully convicted of a murder that occurred in Houston, Texas in 2004. Since that time, he has spent 12 years in prison for a crime he did not commit. While Pablo is currently battling the courts to get home to his daughter, he is also focused right now on trying to build a support network for families of the innocent and wrongfully convicted. His hope is that by uniting these families, we will create a movement that will be too loud to ignore. If you have a family member who is innocent or wrongfully convicted, or just want to help or learn more, please send me a message.
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What sort of " support network for families of the innocent and wrongfully convicted" is he focusing on?

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Pablo wants this organization be both an advocacy organiation as well as a support network for families of the innocent. While your board does an amazing job of providing this networking capability to all inmate families, we wanted to find a way to focus on the innocent and the unique issues they and their families face legally and otherwise. Anyone is free to email me directly at (Removed per policy)

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I have my hopes that maybe he might do some good but generally the wrongly convicted who are proven innocent are very well compensated and will have signed so non-disclosure contract!!!
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I have my hopes that maybe he might do some good but generally the wrongly convicted who are proven innocent are very well compensated and will have signed so non-disclosure contract!!!
Generally very well compensated?

How the wrongfully convicted are compensated for years lost

Imagine serving years, even decades in prison for a crime you didn't commit and then - when you're finally exonerated and released - you're not guaranteed any form of compensation under the law.

In at least 21 states, that's the case.

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Those proven to have been wrongfully convicted through post-conviction DNA testing spend, on average, more than 14 years behind bars. The agony of prison life and the complete loss of freedom are only compounded by the feelings of what might have been, but for the wrongful conviction. Deprived for years of family and friends and the ability to establish oneself professionally, the nightmare does not end upon release. With no money, housing, transportation, health services or insurance, and a criminal record that is rarely cleared despite innocence, the punishment lingers long after innocence has been proven. States have a responsibility to restore the lives of the wrongfully convicted to the best of their abilities.

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https://www.innocenceproject.org/com...gly-convicted/
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I will also say from experience that if someone is trying to prove their innocence and have not exhausted their appeals or they have an attorney they are not going to want (or should they) to talk to anyone because that might jeopardize their case.
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Generally very well compensated?

How the wrongfully convicted are compensated for years lost

Imagine serving years, even decades in prison for a crime you didn't commit and then - when you're finally exonerated and released - you're not guaranteed any form of compensation under the law.

In at least 21 states, that's the case.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-the...e-compensated/


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See state by state compensation laws

https://www.innocenceproject.org/com...gly-convicted/
May are awarded financial compensation and take it!!! I know damned well that money means nothing compared to your freedom. I do know that if wrongfully convicted the state has to pay. Generally the lawyers get most but nothing really helps after serving that much time and being exenorated!!!
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May are awarded financial compensation and take it!!! I know damned well that money means nothing compared to your freedom. I do know that if wrongfully convicted the state has to pay. Generally the lawyers get most but nothing really helps after serving that much time and being exenorated!!!
Not all states pay you if you are wrongly convicted and for the ones that do...it’s harder to get than winning the lottery. I don’t really think you have to sign a non disclosure. I know the details of the ones exonerated in Texas is known. And..you have to be exonerated to get the money. Not just get a new trial and they decide not to retry you. That’s how they get away without paying.
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All I really know is from Florida, sorry! But I did say exonerated!!!
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I will also say from experience that if someone is trying to prove their innocence and have not exhausted their appeals or they have an attorney they are not going to want (or should they) to talk to anyone because that might jeopardize their case.
Yes. Definitely shouldn't.

But their families could talk to other families about the stress of it. They could band together and pressure DAs to create Conviction Integrity Units. They could get their state to do something like Texas's junk science writ. They could push for "confessions" to be videotaped, showing both the defendant and the interviewing officer.

I don't know whether OP meant group advocacy to improve the system but there's lots of room for it and it could help prevent future injustices.
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This happens a lot more than the media (or government?) lets on to the rest of the country, right?
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Hard to tell of course but some Innocence Project organizations have estimated 3-5% of prisoners are innocent.

Then there are the people correctly convicted of things that should not be crimes. The media do pay some attention.

From seattlecriminallawyerhelp.com,

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For years I have had to tell people that they were technically guilty of Conspiracy to Distribute when they told the undercover cop calling them at all hours to buy cocaine that they should call their neighbor, NOT them, if they needed drugs.

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Hard to tell of course but some Innocence Project organizations have estimated 3-5% of prisoners are innocent.

Then there are the people correctly convicted of things that should not be crimes. The media do pay some attention.

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I also heard (via John Oliver) that they still use completely unscientific methods to convict people, like bite marks on a sandwich. Absolutely absurd!
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