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Old 04-17-2020, 01:56 PM
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I hope Iím posting this in the right forum, but I was wondering if my boyfriend can get in trouble for some of the things he says on the phone? He smokes weed in there and also drinks/makes batches, and heíll mention these things from time to time, and I donít want him to get into trouble for it ó but I never know what to say. I always just laugh it off and move on! I think Iím more bothered that heís partaking in such activities knowing he could get in trouble if heís ever caught! I donít even know if thereís anything I could do to help him? Thank you in advance xo
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He’s being foolish, of course they could be listening!
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Heís being foolish, of course they could be listening!
I know youíre right and considering the amount of time heís done, I feel like he should know better. Is that unfair of me?
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I hope Iím posting this in the right forum, but I was wondering if my boyfriend can get in trouble for some of the things he says on the phone? He smokes weed in there and also drinks/makes batches, and heíll mention these things from time to time, and I donít want him to get into trouble for it ó but I never know what to say. I always just laugh it off and move on! I think Iím more bothered that heís partaking in such activities knowing he could get in trouble if heís ever caught! I donít even know if thereís anything I could do to help him? Thank you in advance xo
Absolutely he can. I swear my husband has caused searches to be done lol. He will complain about contraband inside and how COs don't care or how some let people get away with it and it frustrates him. I tell him to chill out with his "bitching." He wrote me a letter once about it just after there was a huge search done.
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Hell yes! And no, it's not unfair of you. Save yourself first though and let him dig his own grave (not literally of course).
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Hell yes! And no, it's not unfair of you. Save yourself first though and let him dig his own grave (not literally of course).
Wait, could I get in trouble for knowing?
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Wait, could I get in trouble for knowing?

Not necessarily, maybe if he confessed a murder to you and youíre not doing anything about it. All the other info is on him, no trouble for you. Heís getting himself in trouble for his big mouth.
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Each prison/jail has their own phone surveillance system. The one I'm familiar with is the federal bop. Every inmate phone call is recorded and kept forever. They aren't all subjected to live listening, but they are always available for investigations. One newspaper article I read noted that a bop prisoner's trial, on brand new charges, included evidence made up of transcripts of every pertinent phone call he had made for years.
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I believe certain words can trigger someone to listen in as well. I can always hear when they click in and notice its always around certain types of words spoken.
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Yes. I personally don't understand being with a man that obviously isn't going to behave after release. If he can't behave in prison he isn't going to do it when he gets out and will probably go back in. Just seems like a waste of time to me.
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Well let's just say Prisons do not employ enough people to just listen to phone calls all day. However, if an investigation is launched they can always retrieve the recordings and listen to the recordings. Or if there is an active investigation or a reason to listen in on a call they will. There are too many people making calls for them to listen to. but if your significant other is engaging in illegal activity then it could potentially result into them listening to your phone calls.
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Every joint is different. But where I work every call is recorded. Not every call is listened too. That would be impossible. But a certain % is required to be listened to. It's all digital and it's tracked.

Can an inmate get in trouble for what they say over the phone? 100% yes. Can the other party on the outside. Yes, but only if they discuss a particular crime being conducted. Or if like someone said, the inmate confessed to a crime or to ongoing crimes.
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Every joint is different. But where I work every call is recorded. Not every call is listened too. That would be impossible. But a certain % is required to be listened to. It's all digital and it's tracked.

Can an inmate get in trouble for what they say over the phone? 100% yes. Can the other party on the outside. Yes, but only if they discuss a particular crime being conducted. Or if like someone said, the inmate confessed to a crime or to ongoing crimes.
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Not to sidetrack the conversation too much, but what about incoming/outgoing mail?

My husband/family is new to all of this and still trying to figure out what is safe/not safe. He self-reported to a Federal Low security facility in early March, 10 days before visitation shut down, so I haven't seen him since the day he went in. Mail and phone is all we have (not approved for email yet, and under COVID19 chaos we expect it won't happen any time soon).

So, my question is, how much is the mail scrutinized and/or copied for written content (not contraband). Phone calls are recorded & kept forever, but what about mail? He isn't involved in anything he shouldn't be, but he's even leery of actually describing what life is like there & what is going on with the pandemic at the prison. I think he's afraid if he complains or gives out too much info to the outside world about conditions inside there will be repercussions (like denial of email privileges when reviewed etc).

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Not to sidetrack the conversation too much, but what about incoming/outgoing mail?

My husband/family is new to all of this and still trying to figure out what is safe/not safe. He self-reported to a Federal Low security facility in early March, 10 days before visitation shut down, so I haven't seen him since the day he went in. Mail and phone is all we have (not approved for email yet, and under COVID19 chaos we expect it won't happen any time soon).

So, my question is, how much is the mail scrutinized and/or copied for written content (not contraband). Phone calls are recorded & kept forever, but what about mail? He isn't involved in anything he shouldn't be, but he's even leery of actually describing what life is like there & what is going on with the pandemic at the prison. I think he's afraid if he complains or gives out too much info to the outside world about conditions inside there will be repercussions (like denial of email privileges when reviewed etc).

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Welcome to prison talk. Without giving away all of our trade secrets I'll tell you that we worry more on mail coming in, not mail going out.

We are primarily concerned with introduction of drugs through the mail followed by pornography.

We don't screen most of the mail going out, at least that I am aware of. I don't work in the mail room. (who is mailing drugs out of prison?) Yes there are certain inmates who have 100% of their mail read and reviewed. But that is usually about only 5% of inmates. They are special cases for various reasons, usually related to their crimes.

In the end there is a line between complaining about your situation and outright threats against other inmates and staff. Those get you in trouble.
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Not to sidetrack the conversation too much, but what about incoming/outgoing mail?

My husband/family is new to all of this and still trying to figure out what is safe/not safe. He self-reported to a Federal Low security facility in early March, 10 days before visitation shut down, so I haven't seen him since the day he went in. Mail and phone is all we have (not approved for email yet, and under COVID19 chaos we expect it won't happen any time soon).

So, my question is, how much is the mail scrutinized and/or copied for written content (not contraband). Phone calls are recorded & kept forever, but what about mail? He isn't involved in anything he shouldn't be, but he's even leery of actually describing what life is like there & what is going on with the pandemic at the prison. I think he's afraid if he complains or gives out too much info to the outside world about conditions inside there will be repercussions (like denial of email privileges when reviewed etc).

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In a Federal Low he will likely be allowed to seal his own letters going out, so nothing he writes will be read. Thereís not much you can say in a letter to him that will get you in trouble unless itís something you already know you shouldnít be sending. Donít try to write anything coded or encrypted, donít talk about escape or illegal activities and youíll be fine.
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They listen & record & when they bust him they're gonna go back to the beginning
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I gotta echo that if someone can't behave in prison and follow the rules, they won't change on the outside either.
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Thank you everyone for all the info and opinion! I appreciate it . I get what you guys are saying about him not behaving himself in there not being a good indicator of how he’s going to be on the outside, but he’s serving LWOP so that isn’t something I think about too much. If I didn’t feel the way I did about him, I probably would bounce, and I know that if I had a friend or sister or anyone with whom I was close to who was in my situation, I’d be giving the same advice as well. I’m just going to ride this situation out and see what happens though! Thanks again xo
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Welcome to Prison Talk. Normal correspondence isn't usually copied and kept by the prison staff. If an inmate is targeted, all letters to and from them are photocopied and retained by the bop's SIS Special Agents.

Some bop prisons have begun copying letters, so all the prisoner gets handed are the photocopies. I don't know if the original letter is retained by the mailroom staff, but it's certainly possible.
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Welcome to Prison Talk. Normal correspondence isn't usually copied and kept by the prison staff. If an inmate is targeted, all letters to and from them are photocopied and retained by the bop's SIS Special Agents.

Some bop prisons have begun copying letters, so all the prisoner gets handed are the photocopies. I don't know if the original letter is retained by the mailroom staff, but it's certainly possible.
My prison does not do photocopying. But from my understanding all copied mail is done off site of the prison and stored by a 3rd party company in their warehouse, or mailed back. Not sure which.

Unfortunately the few (bringing in contraband through the mail) ruin things for the many.
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My son was drawing on the envelopes and several of his outgoing letters to us disappeared, never did arrive. My other son sent my son in prison several letters with drawings, one never made it to him. He has not even been sentenced yet and is in a CORE CIVIC prison awaiting sentencing next month. I think they read all of his incoming and outgoing mail. He thought they did not as he seals his letters. I believe they are reading and actually confiscating some of his due to his drawings on the envelopes. Since this happened he stopped drawing on envelopes.
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It's extremely common for companies to have software that screens employees' email for certain words and phrases. Remember that the same technology that allows you to speak a memo into your phone, or to read your voicemail, allows them to convert a voice conversation to text, and to potentially focus on conversations with pertinent content. I have no familiarity with the software that does such things, but I'm guessing that the phrase "Happy Mother's Day" will get less scrutiny, that "Happy Mother's Day, did you apply the weed killer to the lawn?" Or "Honey I tried to keep junior's birthday balloons but all the helium escaped."
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lol. See I just say random shit in general because people are going to lie about you all day ...its a for profit system. Nothing good is coming out of it. Your words and thoughts are not yours anymore. They are the thieves!
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It's extremely common for companies to have software that screens employees' email for certain words and phrases. Remember that the same technology that allows you to speak a memo into your phone, or to read your voicemail, allows them to convert a voice conversation to text, and to potentially focus on conversations with pertinent content. I have no familiarity with the software that does such things, but I'm guessing that the phrase "Happy Mother's Day" will get less scrutiny, that "Happy Mother's Day, did you apply the weed killer to the lawn?" Or "Honey I tried to keep junior's birthday balloons but all the helium escaped."
I write to my girlfriend through corrlinks. We had
Issues not receiving txts. We a very careful what we
Say but some time we forget and it's stupid. She told me at the beginning not to write the word "something" because the word meth is in the word. So I just separate the word into 2 words. They are looking for words that are drug related or violent words like hit. One time the word "trip" got it taken. We still eventually get our txt it shows up a day or 2 later.
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I think they do when my man calls we flirt alot and the play that stupid recording twice letting us know they are recording and monitoring. I always laugh and say something mean to the recording or joking that they love hearing us flirt. I just have fun with it
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