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Old 03-11-2013, 01:12 PM
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can someone help me out with this sentence chart..i find it a bit too confusing...
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I have trouble with the sentence chart too. The most accurate way to figure out how much good time an inmate can earn off of their sentence is to multiply 47 days times each year of the sentence. A sentence of 66 months is 5 1/2 years, times 47 means they will earn 259 days (8 1/2 months) of good time, so they would have a release date after serving about 4 years 9 1/2 months.

It is also possible (not definite, just possible) to earn up to one additional year off for successful completion of the residential drug abuse program and to leave prison early to serve the end of your sentence in a half way house close to home.
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I have trouble with the sentence chart too. The most accurate way to figure out how much good time an inmate can earn off of their sentence is to multiply 47 days times each year of the sentence. A sentence of 66 months is 5 1/2 years, times 47 means they will earn 259 days (8 1/2 months) of good time, so they would have a release date after serving about 4 years 9 1/2 months.

It is also possible (not definite, just possible) to earn up to one additional year off for successful completion of the residential drug abuse program and to leave prison early to serve the end of your sentence in a half way house close to home.

so for a 9yr sentence? how will that be caculated including what year will he be able to go to the hwh? he has completed 2yrs so far...
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He will earn a total of 423 days of regular good time (not including RDAP) or one year and almost 2 months off. He will serve approximately 7 years and 10 months from when he first went into prison. That would leave about 5 years and 10 months left to serve (minus the 2 years he already served) until his bop release date. The good time is automatic, but it is possible to lose earned good time for bad behavior after a DHO hearing.

The second chance act says that the bop can send him to a half way house up to one year before release, but the amount of HWH time he gets is not guaranteed and will be completely up to his unit team. If he does get a full year HWH, he would leave prison in 4 years and 10 months, but would remain in bop community custody until his release date one year later. Once he arrives at the HWH, it is possible to qualify to leave there and live at home on home confinement. Still in bop community custody, but living at home with you. That is decided by the HWH counselor and the bop community corrections manager.
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very helpful... thanks for clrearing it out for me.
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so does this mean that a 24 month sentence will be 21 months? How much of that will be at a half way house? I won't be able to do the rdap.
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so does this mean that a 24 month sentence will be 21 months? How much of that will be at a half way house? I won't be able to do the rdap.
Alderson gives white collar crime 3 months halfway house time.
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In our 16 months at Alderson I have not heard of anyone getting anymore than that unless they did RDAP. Good luck you are in our prayers. There is a lady there from North Carolina that just SS about 2 1/2 weeks ago her name is Leslie McGready. She is in A3. Maybe you will meet her. I talked to her a lot before she went there. I got a letter from her a few days ago and she said she was doing okay. All that I had told her had really helped and made the transition better. God bless and keep you and your family.
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When you say "I do not agree that the calculation is legally correct", what do you mean?
Federal defendant sentenced to 162 months...pretrial detention beginning 12/17/04, sentenced 4/18/08, BOP calculates release date 09-15-2018......I think that's wrong...can you help with the numbers calculation?
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I think it's wrong too, as long as the pretrial detention was for the same case as the 13.5 year sentence. 162 full months from 12/17/04 would end on 6/17/2018. He would earn 634 days of good time, or 1year 8.6 months, so his release date should be in 9/2016 if he hasn't lost any good time for bad behavior.

For some reason, the calculation doesn't include credit for all of his pretrial detention if, in fact, he was locked up for the entire time in US Marshal custody awaiting trial and sentencing for the federal case. The marshals should still have records.

I think the first step would be to file an in-house appeal of his release date calculation and hope that is all it takes to have it corrected.
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I think it's wrong too, as long as the pretrial detention was for the same case as the 13.5 year sentence. 162 full months from 12/17/04 would end on 6/17/2018. He would earn 634 days of good time, or 1year 8.6 months, so his release date should be in 9/2016 if he hasn't lost any good time for bad behavior.

For some reason, the calculation doesn't include credit for all of his pretrial detention if, in fact, he was locked up for the entire time in US Marshal custody awaiting trial and sentencing for the federal case. The marshals should still have records.

I think the first step would be to file an in-house appeal of his release date calculation and hope that is all it takes to have it corrected.
Thanks for the review. Your calculation matches mine. I'll encourage him to follow up with US marshal.....any other thoughts
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If he files a bp8 to the sentence computation group in Prairie View TX, they should look at it themselves. If that doesn't work, then he will probably need to get documentation from the court (they ordered him to be pretrial detained) or the marshals. It's a fairly common occurrence, sometimes it is cleared up easily, sometimes not so easily. Good luck
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If he files a bp8 to the sentence computation group in Prairie View TX, they should look at it themselves. If that doesn't work, then he will probably need to get documentation from the court (they ordered him to be pretrial detained) or the marshals. It's a fairly common occurrence, sometimes it is cleared up easily, sometimes not so easily. Good luck
Thanks for the information I plan to contact US marshal and start there while he works the inside system.
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Can you give me a calculation for 33 years please, federal prison. thank you. and is the release date shown on the FBOP page correct?
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What will be the calculations for 12years. I thought it was like 2017. How many days of good time can be earned.

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KC, 12 years will earn 564 days of good time, or 18 1/2 months off of his sentence. That leaves about 10 1/2 years from when he was first locked up until his bop release date.

The bop awards 47 days good time for each year of a sentence. The law says 54 days. There have been bills started in congress to force the bop to award the other week, so it's possible that may actually happen. If so, he would be released about 3 months sooner. Any time in a half way house will happen before his release date.
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hey ladies caculation for 20 yrs sentance please a
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20 years would earn 2 years plus 6.8 months good time under the current law, or the time to serve would be 17 years 5 + months from when he was first locked up.

If the good time awarded by the bop is changed from 47 days to 54 days a year in the future, he would earn an additional 20 weeks of good time.
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My son will be sent from state custody to federal custody soon. when will he receive his time in accounting sheet to see if they credited his concurrent state time to the federal accounting? How do they calculate it before his sentence, during or when?
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It will be computed shortly after he arrives in bop custody. He will be scheduled for a unit team meeting (counselor, case manager, unit or camp manager), usually within a month. After it has been computed, he can request a copy of his sentence computation sheet, and his security classification sheet from his case manager, and file an appeal if either one contains errors.

You will know when the paperwork has been completed by checking his proposed release date on the bop inmate locator. It may well be a work in progress, so if it initially show a date that does not take good time into account, wait until it is updated to reflect the correct date of release. It will include his original sentence, minus the maximum amount of good time he can earn. It will not show any possible time in a half way house, which will happen before his release from bop custody.
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It seems unfair that people who doesnt have a drug problem can't partake in the rdap program to get additional time off their sentence. I will self surrender on june 18 to serve 44 months and getting an additional year off my sentence would be awesome. What would happen if I happpen to fail my upcoming urine test just to get a documented drug abuse on my file?
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if you have a dirty urine, you could be immediately taken into custody or lose the ability to self surrender. as for people lying about drug or alcohol problems to try and get a year shaved off of their sentences...i've seen guys rat on there best friends or wives to save some time. trying to screw the system that most people feel screwed them seems like part of the game
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The RDAP program can be a double edged sword too, so it is up to the individual to either take the bad (the pettiness of the program itself, plus a seemingly never ending course of substance abuse treatment while on supervised release) with the possibility of earning extra time off if they are able to complete it, which is definitely not guaranteed.

A former PTO member who is presently in RDAP is blogging about it here.
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How much good time on a 40 mth sentence? I hear some say 54 days per year and others say 47?
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The law says 54 days a year good time. The bop decided that 54 actually means 47, and the courts agreed that they could get away with only awarding 47. You will earn 157 days of good time on a 40 month sentence. (3 1/3 times 47)
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