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Old 11-16-2017, 05:33 PM
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My daughter's father is making money in prison and tells me to hold it for him for when he need it, but he will not contribute to his daughter well being. Anything that I use of the money I must put it back. Which I don't agree with and he seem to think it is ok....i need help ...any advice will help... should i just closed the door for good or what
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Why would you agree to do that?
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He send the money thru western union and I just hold it for him. The thing is he won't contribute to well being of his child. Anything I take from the money he wants me to put it back
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If he is makin the money illegally I would tell him to send his money somewhere else. If it is being made legally why does he assume you will help when he is being an ass and a dead beat dad??? If he won't even help his own child why do you want to help him? That makes no sense, he is not going to help your child why do you help him? You and your baby deserve better than that. There are good men out there go find one and let him have his money.
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I would file with the courts for child support. Also, make sure the money is being obtained legally or this could bite you.
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He send the money thru western union and I just hold it for him. The thing is he won't contribute to well being of his child. Anything I take from the money he wants me to put it back
Anything you take from him is considered illegal gains. As in you-could-be-charged-and-prosecuted over. So again, why would you agree to do that?
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You are putting yourself in legal trouble as miamac said. You have no idea where the money is coming from but that won't matter, if he is busted you will be considered an accomplice. I'd take that money, give it to his family or put it on his books. Then definitely put him on child support. I can imagine they could garnish his books.
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The problem with giving the money to his family or adding it to his books is that this still involves knowing about the money and touching it. It contributes to the creation of a paper trail (not that it wouldn't otherwise exist, since it was paid by Western Union). If his relatives are involved, they become new witnesses that perhaps wouldn't have been part of the picture.

Technically, some crimes may already have been committed just by knowingly receiving and keeping the money and perhaps depositing or spending some. It's not as if the money has recently appeared into a bank account of an individual who has no idea yet. It may be too late to be someone who cannot be accused of anything whatsoever or who never touched any money, but in the OP's situation, the last thing I would want to do is involve more people, if they were not already involved.
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Turn him in....he's continuing his criminal lifestyle in jail. You have proof. He's not paying you anyway. And his putting the I'll gotten money in your hands morally outrages me for 2_reasons:
1. He be!ieves his control over you is so strong, you will let your child "go without", while protecting his money. Disgusting human.
2. He is creating situation where potentially YOU found find yourself in legal trouble, and lose custody of your child.

You need to act now, before he gets caught and rats you out.
You child's safety and needs are priority, not some useless, ugly hearted, controlling man who is probably laughing because he manipulates E ERYTHING..
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I eouldnt turn him in but I wouldn't take any more money. He's not making money he's gambling or selling drugs and both are illegal. Stop taking the money.
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He might be in work release or something, my husband was and every month they would western union $250. And he would get a weekly cash allowance of $30 so u never know it might be legally.
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Prisons have work release??? Here jail has work release I never knew prisons release you to work. Seems odd but ok. Maybe other states are different.
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Prisons have work release??? Here jail has work release I never knew prisons release you to work. Seems odd but ok. Maybe other states are different.
Well she said prison but some people dont differentiate the two, so we will never know unless she says.
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Well she said prison but some people dont differentiate the two, so we will never know unless she says.
In florida they have work release from prison's and jails.
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Wow that's crazy. Well then I guess she should ask him where the money is coming from. If some random person is sending it she should stop accepting it. If it's coming from work release then I dont see a problem with it except for the fact he's being a dead beat father and not providing for his child when there is money coming in.
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Wow that's crazy. Well then I guess she should ask him where the money is coming from. If some random person is sending it she should stop accepting it. It's it's coming from work release then I dont see a problem with it except for the fact he's being a dead beat father and not providing for his child when there is money coming in.
Yea, well i would spend it and say to hell with him if its legal. My husband would know better than to even send me some money and say u have to replace it. Then dont send it to me. That just goes to show that most men are stupid. Id say ok and spend it anyway. Lol
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He might be in work release or something, my husband was and every month they would western union $250. And he would get a weekly cash allowance of $30 so u never know it might be legally.
If it is from legal work, I would think she would be able to pursue child support, no? And if it's through legal work, then he can hold his own money and send her only what is for the child.
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Most likely it's illegally gotten and she can't get any support because of his illegal activities!! But that said she is now party to his illegal funds, so either she stops her contact with him or she might be in a bad situation over this.
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It’s all speculation whether he is getting the money legally or illegally. It would be a cold day before the father of my child, who I need money to raise, would tell me what to do with money he sent me. However if it was obtained illegally who knows what he’d do if she spent it. I would just not accept any more money and tell him to find someone else to send it to.
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Most likely it's illegally gotten and she can't get any support because of his illegal activities!! But that said she is now party to his illegal funds, so either she stops her contact with him or she might be in a bad situation over this.
How is she any more a party to it than someone sending money legitimately? How is she to know whether it’s legal or illegal money? Money sent from Western Union doesn’t state “this is legally made money”. So anyone who accepts money from an inmate is at risk of being party to it? Unless they can prove through calls or letters that she did know I think that would be hard to prove.
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If it's being sent Western Union, and not from a prison cut check out of the inmate's account...it's illegal. The prison isn't allowing inmates to send money via Western Union! Furthermore...she should know WHO the money is coming from. Since it's obviously NOT coming directly from the inmate I have to assume it's coming from the family of someone he's dealing with on the inside. Been there...done that..seen numerous mom's and grandma's lives threatened over not being able to produce this money on demand after having it sent by Western Union. Or...them being told to send it to the next person in line and if it's not done their loved one is in risk. Not a game I would play at all.

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Pay Grade. There are three daily rates of pay for all incentive wage assignments unless the Secretary determines that the work assignment requires special skills or training. Upon approval of the Secretary, inmates working in job assignments requiring special skills or training may be paid up to $3.00 per day. The three rates are: $.40, $.70, and $1.00. All jobs within Prisons are classified by the Chief of Program Services at a pay grade consistent with skills required to perform job assignments. All inmates assigned to the Department of Transportation inmate labor contract and to the Community Work Program are compensated at a fixed rate of $.70 per day.
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That’s for clarifying. Makes sense now.
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Turn him in....he's continuing his criminal lifestyle in jail. You have proof. He's not paying you anyway. And his putting the I'll gotten money in your hands morally outrages me for 2_reasons:
1. He be!ieves his control over you is so strong, you will let your child "go without", while protecting his money. Disgusting human.
2. He is creating situation where potentially YOU found find yourself in legal trouble, and lose custody of your child.

You need to act now, before he gets caught and rats you out.
You child's safety and needs are priority, not some useless, ugly hearted, controlling man who is probably laughing because he manipulates E ERYTHING..
(sorry angry, the children hurting upsets me)
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FYI this is how it works...family sends her western Union for a multitude of reasons, no e of which is legal, and monies going into his commissary account can be end encumbered for fees, surcharges, restitution .
Also, large amounts going to one person from families is easy to spot. Red flags.?
So you have your family Send western union to this guy's wife. Whether its drugs, legal he!p, protection, makes no difference. If he was sending money home it would be facility chscky.
She, as the person receiving, can easily be discovered by investigation, conspiring to extort. All it takes is one snitch note, and it sounds like he's doing well, so someone will definitely want to piss all over that.
You can bet they can watch mail going out, monitor calls, and put it together. She probably doesn't have PO box.
Bottom line, she is involved in a conspiracy which is probably involved in his hiding money IN CASE SHE GOES AFTER HIM FOR CHILD SUPPORT.
Once again, apologies for anger, I fell like the Lorax, I speak for the children.
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My daughter's father is making money in prison and tells me to hold it for him for when he need it, but he will not contribute to his daughter well being. Anything that I use of the money I must put it back. Which I don't agree with and he seem to think it is ok....i need help ...any advice will help... should i just closed the door for good or what
Yes I would close the door for good with him don't accept no more money from him. Even if it legal or not he's being a ASS telling you don't spend it when you have his child and he's not there to help support her. That is so inconsiderate of him.I wouldn't accept no more money.
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