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Old 04-20-2018, 05:30 PM
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Thumbs up NY Gov. Cuomo Plans to Restore Voting Rights to Paroled Felons

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ALBANY — Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo announced on Wednesday that he intends to restore voting rights to felons on parole, a move that could open the ballot box to more than 35,000 people.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/18/n...hts-cuomo.html

A brilliant move on Cuomo's part to side-step the Republican-controlled New York Senate that has been blocking criminal justice reforms.

Why do the Republicans keep trying to stop felons from being able to vote??

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Republicans assailed the order as a gross overreach of executive authority. Ed Cox, the chairman of the state Republican Party, in a statement, called it an “outrageous power grab” designed to appeal to “radical primary voters.” A visibly angry Senator John J. Flanagan, the Senate majority leader, said the move “circumvents the law.”
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I'm interested to see what else he does with Nixon primarying against him. She feels he is not progressive enough.
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Yes, that's probably the main reason he finally decided to act, because he was feeling pressure from his primary opponent on his left.

Works for me though. If the debate gets more of these politicians talking and, more importantly, ACTING on criminal justice reform, that's a step in the right direction.
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Voter suppression, especially minorities, felons and any group they feel will vote Democratic is always being pushed by Republicans, in my opinion.
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Voter suppression, especially minorities, felons and any group they feel will vote Democratic is always being pushed by Republicans, in my opinion.
My personal experience is that the reality we face in the Police State Of New York is the exact opposite of your feelings. I have a felony record and when I was released from parole supervision, I contacted the Albany County Board of Elections. For anybody who may not know, Albany County NY is a Democrat-infested hive that’s been under Democrat control for longer than living people can remember. I described my situation to some clerk and asked what procedure I had to follow to register. The clerk talked with his supervisor and then told me that I was required to produce my Certificate of Good Conduct from DOCCS. I asked the League of Women Voters if that was correct. They told me the ONLY requirement was that I no longer be under Parole supervision and they also told me that the Albany County BoE was famous for stunts like the one they pulled on me. After that, I just went to the BoE office, filled out their form and stuck it in their lying, corrupt faces. Nobody dared to question me the way they had been overjoyed to try to drive me away in the first place.

So, long story short = voter suppression is NOWHERE near being a uniquely Republican thing, so don’t hang it on them alone. The Democrats are also very experienced and supremely proficient at it.

As for our Emperor For Life Cuomo Junior wanting to do something positive for parolees for the sake of doing something positive for parolees... IMO, that’s a fantasy. Cuomo Jr is all for Cuomo Jr and never for anybody or anything else. His open borders puffery and making noise about giving the vote back to parolees are just moves to import and create more voters who’ll vote for him and his party. The way he lies about how he’s a so-called “immigrant” tells us everything about how sincere and honest he is. He and his father were both born in NYC, so Junior is actually second generation American (albeit one who includes bald-faced lies in his press conference statements).
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Any change is welcome, regardless of which political party it comes from.

The bottom-line is: we need more felons voting, so their voices can be heard.

IMHO, it shouldn't just be limited to those who are free on the outs. I don't see why incarcerated prisoners shouldn't be allowed to vote as well. After all, they are the ones most directly affected by all those laws the state legislatures keep passing and imposing on them, so they should have a right to have their voices counted as well.

Currently, only Maine and Vermont allow prisoners to vote. Hopefully more states will follow suit.
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And meanwhile a county in CA is trying to keep felons who are in on civil commitment from voting anymore.
http://all4consolaws.org/2018/03/ca-...ranchise-svps/
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Combs has it right. Only if you live in N.Y. would you be aware of the full scope of the Cuomo corruption macbine. I hope for positive changes of course, but he sees felons as just another bloc vote to purchase in his hope for President. Nixon challenge has only made his vote pandering to social groups and sub cultures more grand. He eventually moved on. But more power to him that he should create positive change. But this is his pattern.
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People with certificates of relief can already vote. I was released in January 2012 and voted in the 2012 election. My CoR was automatic, I didn't have to apply for it. If it had been my second felony I believe it would not have come automatically.
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People with certificates of relief can already vote. I was released in January 2012 and voted in the 2012 election. My CoR was automatic, I didn't have to apply for it. If it had been my second felony I believe it would not have come automatically.
Not there is a certificate of good conduct I believe if two or more. This overrides all that.
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