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The War on Drugs - and the results of it A war against drugs, or against families?

View Poll Results: people who get drug and or related cases should get sentenced to?
some kind of rehab to overcome addiction 511 94.28%
go straight to jail - "I have no sympathy for DOPERS!" 31 5.72%
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Old 11-30-2017, 02:31 PM
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I did not vote. The option "nothing - its a medical matter" wasn't offered.
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Old 02-05-2018, 08:10 PM
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I think a great deal of addicts use drugs to numb out their real problems, these problems need to be identified and worked on. Therefore I usually suggest getting clean and therapy.
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Old 02-05-2018, 11:28 PM
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a different viewpoint:

stepson does crack, holds up a convience store with box cutter, goes to jail
stepson gets out, paroles to girlfriend's house..she sugar mamas him.
He steals everything, even nailed down, from her home numerous times to finance drug use. she had put up her house for bail! lucky she did not lose that.
His mother has also always bankrolled him and worked double shifts at retirement age and did lose house.
It accelerates, he puts a pair of scissors through his cheek-a really deep wound, and tells different family members that a dealer did it for money owed and would kill him next. and other scams. Family members "rescue" him out to the tune of tens of thousands of dollars.
Dirty UA, he gets his "last" warning.

On the other hand, I have told him that if he steals so much as 25 cents from me, I will prosecute.
He threatens suicide. again. I call 911.

His addiction does irreperable harm to my marriage.

I find out he has forged a check from our account, when we are on disability and barely make it and he takes a month's income. Husband kept it a secret for a long while, until he couldn't because....the effect of the theft. I went ballistic. Husband's account and he would not prosecute.

he leaves girlfriends house and moves into crack house. use increases, "death threats" and injuries become more and more frequent.

Husband and I had talk, he agreed with me but will never admit it. I turned him in to his parole officer regularly until he was remanded back into prison. He was going to wind up dead out loose on the streets.

Final price: divorce.

As the 12 steps say, addiction is a family disease. There are many more victims than just the addict.

I have no remorse over reporting him and his return to prison.

But yes, I find some of the sentences I read about in here insane.

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Old 07-13-2018, 11:09 AM
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Where's the third option? What an awful poll.
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Old 09-25-2018, 03:38 AM
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WOW some of the comments on here blow my mind on how narrow minded people can be. Of curse the rehabs have not worked you do not get repeat business when they work. If you look at the actual data from when Nixion declared this war on drugs in those many many generations all we have done was waste money and take time and lives away from people while making cartels and gangs more powerful as for the drug its self they are easier to get now then they were before we started a war against them. You know why that is because Drug use is an ethics issue at best. Its something one person does that may not be good for them but do it anyway.. sound familiar? how many people we have in the U.S that smoke or drink? that is no good for you but it is legal everyone has a vice weather its food, sunflower seeds, porn or drugs we have that one thing we can not break free from. If you even attempt to say other wise you are lying through your teeth or to stupid top grasp what i am saying. but yet some peoples vises other people made laws over and those people lose their whole life and everything they know because of it. What's the saying "drugs could ruin your life" well thank god the police are catching folks and the courts are ruining their lives for them was worried for a min drug use was actually gonna do it. I say that because how many presidents have we now had that have admitted to doing drugs? they did them and ended up with the best job in the USA while others who might of been caught with the same drug 20 yrs ago are labeled felons cant vote and limits where they can work... The day you can honestly look me in the eye and tell me why three presidents now have formerly been by definition if caught "dope head criminals" but yet were able to lead our country? Drugs are not good i agree but i know people who were going threw a rough patch and went and got drugs and because they are not real criminals they got caught early on in their little moment way to soon to even know if they were going to just be a rec user or a habitual. when caught already in a rough spot in life (reason they had the drugs) now their college diplomas no longer mean squat they lose a hand ful of rights and are branded a criminal... do we really not pay attention to world news these days? every country who went on the war on drugs with the USA has either stopped it completely or are taking steps backwards... Hell mexico that god forsaken dump has decriminalize weed finally in a trail run to see if it is gonna decriminalize all drugs. that piss poor country has figured out they drug war is what has made the cartel powerful and they are tired of getting killed over trying to stop drugs from coming here it wont be long and they will decriminalize all drugs there and there will be no resistance to the drugs coming here Americans will then have to fight and die in place of the Mexican cops who have been fighting and dying... With our country having 70% of the people in it on some form of prescription drug id be willing to bet my life that at least half are being abused maybe more. But we are blinded to that fact because it came from a dr. it cant be wrong.... well dr.s are out to make money also. You answer another question a parent loses one son to prison for illegal drugs and then another son from an od from the pills he got from his DR. which one cuts the worse? its knowledge that will help the drug users but more importantly its knowledge that will open the eyes to the none drug users so they can come up with a calmer better approach on how to deal with this people. check the numbers i beg you the war on drugs has done nothing with preventing drugs being here and people using the only thing it has done was ruin lives that may not of gotten ruined tore families apart and cost us billions of dollars each year... if not for the moral issues do it for the financial issues what i 4 billion a year actually getting us? not a got damn thing
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This poll is as flawed as the (lack of*) justice system in this country. It cannot be funneled down into two choices with the plethora of people, and the myriad reasons someone chooses to use or commit a crime. Without more focus on the individuality of each offender, and their pathway to that first offence, neither path will result in a positive change in the offender's behavior.

Thankfully the once taboo subjects of mental health, and sexual assualt, are being cast in the bright light of public consciousness and conversation. It has been long overdue. Nonetheless, without addressing what pushed the offender to offend, and only rehab and or incarceration is the "corrective" options, you'll be as successful as medicine curing everything with aspirin and antibiotics. It just doesn't always work.


*my "rose colored glasses" opinion, yours may vary, and I'm cool with that too.
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Really I couldn't agree more and have more to add to your comment but I don't have time right now... I'm too busy trying to prepare myself for jail. I'm about to become a prisoner of this ridiculous war on drugs but I will never back down from where I stand on this issue: there never should have been a war on drugs to begin with and people need to stop believing the lies.
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Oh, and how did the people turn out in that movie? No, I seriously doubt dropping acid in someone's eye and "programming" them is going to be the solution. Was a good movie way back when but it was just that.. a movie
Uh, I'm pretty sure they weren't putting acid in the humble narrators glazzies... the scientists were holding his eyes open to force him to watch disturbing film imagery. They were just keeping his eyes moistened with eye drops because he was unable to blink.
(For the purposes of this thread, this doesn't matter at all).
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