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Old 10-18-2007, 01:34 AM
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Should society forgive a young man for killing 10 people? Is there such a thing as corrections or rehabilitation for murderers or other inmates and convicts doing time in jail or prison? What about the families of inmates? What about the families of the victims? Can we ever forgive?

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I kind of feel sorry for this boy in a way only because his whole life is gone now because of choices he made or was forced to make by someone else. He has a lot of time to think about what he did and not it is catching up to him and he regrets it deeply. For him to call a national news station to get a hold of one of the families and broke down to the daughter of one of the victims that should remorse in my eyes. I am not saying what he did was right but in some way I feel sorry for him. And I as well feel deeply for the families of these victims.
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God is an example of forgiveness for He sent His son Jesus Christ to forgive each and every one of us for ALL of our sins......if we but humbly ask for forgiveness through His Son Jesus, who knew no sin to die for OUR sins.

So yes, we have to forgive others if they are truly repentent. As God did for us we must do for others.
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If God Can Forgive Us Of Our Sins Then We Can Forgive Him For His Sins He Is A Young Boy He Deserves A Chance He Prob Had A Bad Child Hood And He Had All This Anger In Him For Him To Do Somthing Like This But I Would Forgive Him
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I feel that anyone can be forgiven as long as they see what they did was wrong and show remorse for their actions.for those inmates that will be released i think that these men need help and support not made to be felt that they are no good.how's that going to help anyone to want to change and do the right thing if everyone keeps pointing out they're mistakes.i also feel tht the prison system should try to seek more ways of helping these people to become better people before release they're kinda treated like caged up animals sometimes and i think that that's wrong. if you want them to become better people help them don't treat them as if they don't matter cause no matter the crime they're is always someone on the outside you cares deeply for these people. and for the one's who will never be released, i think they can be forgiven as long as they realize what they did was wrong.anyone who would commit these kind of actions though obviously need some help,there's deep issues at the heart of the crime. I however do not feel that they should be released into society again then there's too much chance that another innocent life could be lost or victimized.but forgiven yes.god forgives his sinners!that includes you and i. we are all guilty of something.
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I feel that he is a deranged man. The little boy that he had as his accomplice was just scared of him and did what he said just to stay on his good books
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It's easy for us to "judge" or force our opinions on others, but none of us are perfect. What he did truly was wrong and he is being punished for it. Those of us in positons to help with the change process of these individuals, such as Malvo, should stand firm in our places and help these people in their change process. Malvo was and still is a CHILD and children have been, are and will be heavily influenced, brainwashed and what have you by those in positions of authority (mothers, fathers, leaders, etc.) and unfortunately, he was in the hands of the wrong person; this is one reason why it is so important for us the know the word of God. This CHILD had and has some serious internal issues that should have been, are being and will be addressed, that is where the "change process" begins and remorse, guilt and shame are a part of it. The enemy is busy and the devil truly is a liar!

All of us haven fallen, are falling now and will fall short of the glory of God and He will judge us; none of us can judge. If Jesus can put up with us and all of our foolishness and mess and forgive us not just once, but repeatedly, as followers of Christ, children of The Father, so should we to our fellow man. As babies when our children are learning to walk and as they grow and experience life, they fall down and make mistakes and we as parents do we hold them down and not forgive them and constantly remind them and penalize them throughout their lives of their wrong doing? No of course not, but we pick them up, teach them the right thing to do, allowing them to learn and grow from their mistakes, and we do this repeatedly throughout their lives as children and adults, they are still our children, just as The Almighty does and will continue to do for us. God is The Father and he picks us up each and everytime we fall. God is moved my compassion and my heart is truly filled with compassion for this CHILD.
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Having lived through the terror they inflicted on this area, as hard as it is I don't forgive or forget. Only those who lived here being afraid to pump gas or go out to the store or send their chilldren to school can know what how those two made us feel out here. It was horrible.

Maybe now, Lee is remorseful, but at the time he was picked up and being held for trial, he did not act that way, and in fact was a displinary problem and was even making threats against a CO where he was being held. Only now, after 5 years LWOP actually being reality for the young man is he sorry.

I am sure he was influenced by Muhammad, and I am sure that he did have a deplorable childhood, but that still doesnt mean I have to forgive him for taking part in 10 murders including shooting at school children and making people terrified to even go out of their homes.
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Having lived through the terror they inflicted on this area, as hard as it is I don't forgive or forget. Only those who lived here being afraid to pump gas or go out to the store or send their chilldren to school can know what how those two made us feel out here. It was horrible.

Maybe now, Lee is remorseful, but at the time he was picked up and being held for trial, he did not act that way, and in fact was a displinary problem and was even making threats against a CO where he was being held. Only now, after 5 years LWOP actually being reality for the young man is he sorry.

I am sure he was influenced by Muhammad, and I am sure that he did have a deplorable childhood, but that still doesnt mean I have to forgive him for taking part in 10 murders including shooting at school children and making people terrified to even go out of their homes.
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I agree w/ you. I don't even live there, but I can just imagine the terror. Thousands of kids grow up w/ bad childhoods, that doesn't make it ok to murder 10 people just for fun? It doesn't make sense to me. It doesn't matter if we forgive it matters if God forgives.
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You are very correct. If God chooses to forgive Malvo then its between he and God. Whether I choose to forgive him really doesnt matter, and its also my perogative. I just wonder if others who say they would forgive Lee would have a different opinion if they lived in this area and experienced the terror first hand, or if one of their loved ones had been one of those killed by Lee.
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I lived there at the time and I remember it quite well! I lived in DC on Capitol Hill and worked in Northern Virgnia, Tysons Corner. It was a horrible and terrible time and I too was so afraid for my son when he was going back and forth to school, for myself, my family, co-workers, freinds and as well as my enemies. It's instances like that that remind me or how important it is to know His word and to live accordingly and forgive. I could have been any of us, it's unfortunate for those victims and their families.
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Having lived through the terror they inflicted on this area, as hard as it is I don't forgive or forget. Only those who lived here being afraid to pump gas or go out to the store or send their chilldren to school can know what how those two made us feel out here. It was horrible.

Maybe now, Lee is remorseful, but at the time he was picked up and being held for trial, he did not act that way, and in fact was a displinary problem and was even making threats against a CO where he was being held. Only now, after 5 years LWOP actually being reality for the young man is he sorry.

I am sure he was influenced by Muhammad, and I am sure that he did have a deplorable childhood, but that still doesnt mean I have to forgive him for taking part in 10 murders including shooting at school children and making people terrified to even go out of their homes.
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Does it really matter when someone is remorseful? Why are people never satisfied with what a person comes up with. If he shows remorse straight away it is said he is lieing, not honest or is just trying to get away with his crime. If he doesn't show remorse he is cold blooded and deserves what ever he gets but it is hoped that he shows remorse later and that prison will teach him a lesson. Then maybe prison does teach a lesson and it is still not good enough and not believed. How could anyone win in this situation?
I am sure he brought a lot of pain to people, but please if he is showing remorse now and understood what he did, isn't that what prison is therefor? Isn't that what prison is ment to achieve, what the system wants? Does it really matter when you begin to understand what you have done as long as you do understand and won't do it again?
How can anyone win in this situation, how has anyone got a chance... no matter what side you are on.
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i agree with the other ladies, BUT i think it is wrong for someone to take someones life and they get to live theirs. while teh victims family is in suffering the person who committed teh crime still has thier child.
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I feel for all those who feel he shouldnt be forgivin just remember that when you do something wrong and you want forgiveness. Alot of people are so quick to judge, but be so deep in sin themselves. Maybe its just to take the attention and guilt off of themselves. Its easier to talk about others sins than to take the time and acknowlege your own. I say yes forgive.

Also in there they talked about rehabilitation. I dont see where that is being done. I know of people who go to jail just to get three meals and a roof over there head, so it must not be too bad. I feel education and preporation for society should be the focus while in there, they have the money to keep building prisons so why not take that money and build factories, wharehouses, or something made just for men and women who get out and caint find jobs.

There is so much they could do with all the money they waste that could help keep them on the right track, but they are so negative all they think about is the negitive. Just a few of my thoughts. lol.
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i agree with the other ladies, BUT i think it is wrong for someone to take someones life and they get to live theirs. while teh victims family is in suffering the person who committed teh crime still has thier child.
Why do you want people who had nothing to do with the crime to suffer? Yes the victims families suffer.. no doubt about that but why on earth should any other family should suffer the same loss? They didn't do anything wrong. It would make more sense to help the victims family with their grive rather than looking for revenge.
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Having lived through the terror they inflicted on this area, as hard as it is I don't forgive or forget. Only those who lived here being afraid to pump gas or go out to the store or send their chilldren to school can know what how those two made us feel out here. It was horrible.

Maybe now, Lee is remorseful, but at the time he was picked up and being held for trial, he did not act that way, and in fact was a displinary problem and was even making threats against a CO where he was being held. Only now, after 5 years LWOP actually being reality for the young man is he sorry.

I am sure he was influenced by Muhammad, and I am sure that he did have a deplorable childhood, but that still doesnt mean I have to forgive him for taking part in 10 murders including shooting at school children and making people terrified to even go out of their homes.
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i did not live there but my bother and his wife does and i was afraid for them everyday..It really is a hard to forgive but i know you have too or it will eat you up..
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Well, he should feel bad.
You make an excellent point. If I was involved in such a horrible string of senseless murders I do not know how I would be able to live with myself. I do not think that I really could. Malvo's remorse simply demonstrates that he is human.

While I believe in rehabilitation and forgiveness, there are certain crimes that demand keeping people locked up for a very long time. Perhaps in 20 or 30 years it may be possible to look at this case in a different way. Right now though, this person is where they need to be.
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I dont know that I could be so forgiving if it were my mom, dad, brother of child he killed. Im not God Im human...Its easy to say Id forgive him because it wasnt my family he killed.
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You are so right and thats the point.
Human beings, and of course juveniles, always failure in life, some more, some less but nobody is free of mistakes.
Only the outcome is different of course. But revenge doesnt change the outcome, it only makes it more bad for more people.
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Should society forgive a young man for killing 10 people?
Should we? Are we the ones that should forgive? Yeah he offended us. He scared us. But he didn't hurt us. And only those he hurt can truly forgive, because for the rest of us to it is worthless. It's not our place to forgive. May make him feel better, but it's not our place nor right.

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Is there such a thing as corrections or rehabilitation for murderers or other inmates and convicts doing time in jail or prison?
In some cases yes. For him, I don't know.

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I'm sorry for them they are going through this and they are in my prayers. Other than that it is the least of my concerns.

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Can I? No.

If they did that to a friend or family of mine, yes I could forgive them. I may forgive them but I could not forgive what they do. But as I have said already, it's not my place nor is it my right to forgive.
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I'm from the d.c. metro area.It affected our lives at everyday.He was still a child being shown a terrible example.He thought that man would know what is best for him since hes older.I'm happy that after 5 yrs.he is remorseful. It is hell in itself to be behind bars.Your cut off from a womans touch.Cut off from everything.I have faith God could allow his heart to change.I pray he truly begins to follow His path. None of us are exempt from Gods law.Could you say you follow all of his commands?Or do all of us even know them?Number four says if you don't follow sabbath its just as bad as murder in His eyes.They even stoned people in the old testament for not observing the sabbath.So whatever bad decisions we make I pray God forgives us all.Not to make a bad decision knowing God will still love us.But to think about his commandments always so we don't trip.I thank him for giving us an instruction booklet to life.
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This is a really tough question. Yes he should be forgiven but as DOC says the Lord is the only 1 qualified to judge. While incarcerated I hope he is treated with dignity. What this man/child did was unforgetable.
I lived not only in the area but within 2 miles of at least 3 of the murders. I'll never forget the terror of trying to reach my grandfather and beg him not to leave the house 1 shooting was less than a mile form his house. My children had some of the innocense of their child hood stolen when they were told they could not play outside. Then, when I remember seeing helicopters over my house because a bus driver had been murdered, or driving through intersections and seeing police officers with shot guns acroos their chests, handguns holstered on their legs I realize I still hold very strong emotions about this.
To me killing a child is unforgivable, and though they did not kill him a child in Bowie was hit and his life forever changed. Although my family was affected we were blessed not to have lost a loved one.
I pray for Malvo but I don't know that he should ever get out of prison. It's hard for me to say that because I am waiting for my fiance to come home.
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