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Old 10-12-2017, 07:18 PM
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Default There's a petition to abolish Federal minimum security camps

This is an idea that FCI McKean's warden Dennis Luther had decades ago. If someone is low-risk enough to live in a facility without a fence, why not put them under community supervision instead?

The petition points out the cost-saving angle.

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Having spent time in a minimum (in Canada), I had exactly the same thought. Why spend $100,000 plus per year instead of $35,000 a year to keep someone in the community? It's a gigantic waste for most prisoners. Minimum should exist only for long-term offenders on their way to release/parole - anyone who has merited a placement in minimum should automatically become parole eligible. There might be a few exceptions for people who simply cannot be released but aren't dangerous inside, but most people in minimum should be out very quickly.
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well, hell...let's just do away with consequence for all non-violent crimes.

Part of prison, fence or not, is the punitive impact of a removal from the community. It is part and parcel of committing a felony. And if one were to adopt an approach of 'well, let them pay to be on a monitor instead of being locked up,' then you get into the disparate treatment for the haves and the have nots...
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well, hell...let's just do away with consequence for all non-violent crimes.

Part of prison, fence or not, is the punitive impact of a removal from the community. It is part and parcel of committing a felony. And if one were to adopt an approach of 'well, let them pay to be on a monitor instead of being locked up,' then you get into the disparate treatment for the haves and the have nots...
I agree a 100% and this is in fact a part of why federal money crimes are now punished with prison time. Years ago stealing wasn't punished with jail time very often even though victims suffered - why should somebody that steals via a con not have to pay the same price as other crimes?

A felony is a felony; if one merits prison time so does the next one. That is why the amount of a sentence can vary so, but being able to pay your fine or restitution to skip prison makes those without resources pay a higher price for doing the same wrong thing.
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