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Old 01-31-2018, 03:51 PM
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My contacts state that there is a state wide inmate protest going on for the GP inmates started from the upper levels.

They refused to eat Brrakfast and Dinner starting today and 30 days of not using the GlobalTel Wallphones because apparently GobalTel is behind backing CDCR to increase stronger punishments for Inmates caught with cellphones which includes loss of Family Visits (Which doesn't have anything to do with Family Visits).

Just an FYI for all of you who may not know why your loved one isn't calling.
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CDCR has already responded to the rumored protest...

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Thanks for bringing this up so we don't wonder why phone calls aren't happening.

CDCR response is off topic. They start by touting how they negotiated reduced phone rates from the outrageous 2007 levels to simply ridiculous post 2013 levels. Classic misdirect. That has nothing to do with the protest per PapaSmurf post. That misdirect in the first half of the memo about phone rates borders on offensive.

CDCR addresses family visit penalty in the last half of the memo implying the protest will affect "programming" and then goes further to try to somehow conflate this with prop 57.

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Much of prison population does not get family visits anyway. I find it commendable that the entire prison population would organize protest supporting that smaller population. In what appears to be a peaceful manner. About the only and likely best mechanism they have for their voices to be heard. Rather than listening, CDCR memo tries to villainize them.
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CDCR response is off topic.
I agree. I have no idea why the response included FV regs except to use a "look over there!" kind of redirect. I could give my two cents on those new regs, but that's a topic for another thread.

I'm curious if folks are willing to list the facilities they know are participating in the phone protest.
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I can tell you that CIM is using phones. I didn't hear anything about a protest there.
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Ironwood is using the phones, too.

I saw in another thread that this would be for the month of Feb. Any word if that's true? It may not have started yet. However, I don't see the inmates on our yard participating, to be honest. I'll report back after Feb 1 if I hear differently.

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I noticed that the OP says that GP inmates are participating. Would this mean that SNY inmates are not part of the protest?
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The protest is happening but only on mainline yards, as this came from above, if you know what I mean. SNY inmates are not participating. There is also a hunger strike, yesterday for sure, they refused to go to breakfast and dinner. I've heard that this will be for 7 days but then I've also heard its for the whole month of February. There are actually many many more inmates receiving family visit now than ever before. This has nothing to do with phone rates. They are saying its because of the new proposed changes to family visiting regulations which add possession of cell phone/cell phone accessory as a reason for being excluded. That's the reason CDCR included the regs. in the memo. This is an extremely hot topic. The folks at Life Support Alliance are pissed about the strike because they are worried it will jeopardize all their hard work. I'm not going to tell you what I think about it..... :/ from what I've heard they think because GTL pays for blockers, extra metal detectors etc, they think that GTL is lobbying for these new regs since cell phones cause them to lose business. Apparently the logic behind this is that they know cell phones are illegal and that won't change, but they feel its unfair that getting caught with a cell phone has much harsher penalty than other RVR's in the same class. I'd be curious to know if the people saying certain prisons are not participating are getting calls from an SNY yard....

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I'd be curious to know if the people saying certain prisons are not participating are getting calls from an SNY yard....
Yes, SNY and yards with folks close to the gate who don't feel it's worth losing good time.
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Groups like LSA are completely against it.
Lets be honest, this has nothing to do with GTL prices. Prison calls have lowered sooo much compared to years past, I mean come on... they're not going to free. SMH
Apparently people are upset with the wording of the regs stating after REPEATED 115's for cell phone use FV will be taken away completely. It doesn't sound to complicated, don't use a cell phone and you don't jeopardize your family visits. Simple enough.
But people are going to do what they're going to do I guess.
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Groups like LSA are completely against it.
Lets be honest, this has nothing to do with GTL prices. Prison calls have lowered sooo much compared to years past, I mean come on... they're not going to free. SMH
Apparently people are upset with the wording of the regs stating after REPEATED 115's for cell phone use FV will be taken away completely. It doesn't sound to complicated, don't use a cell phone and you don't jeopardize your family visits. Simple enough.
But people are going to do what they're going to do I guess.
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Just spoke with my husband-- they posted the same memo (below) a few days ago on the wall in the dayroom. No one on his yard is participating and no one is really talking about it. If they are mentioning it, it's the FV regs in general. He had not heard anything about a planned strike.
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New to all this but seems like Wasco Reception isnt in on it...if they even know about it that is. Hubby called 2day...finally after 4 months.
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No calls since Feb. 1 from Solano and Soledad. Looks like Mexicans and Whites have to participate "or else." My husband is really upset as he is getting ready for board after 22+ years, and we just got our first family visit. He doesn't normally follow any orders, but I told him to choose his battles. What else can we do?

I explained to him that I don't think it's even possible for GTL to lower calls anymore. I mean how much lower than .13 a minute can you go? Unless I am misunderstanding. It appears that calls to Mexico may be quite expensive, but as others have stated this may not be an effective plan.
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I can confirm that Calipatria is participating and I have heard it is supposed to last until the 14th
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[quote=nvr.alone;7698895I explained to him that I don't think it's even possible for GTL to lower calls anymore. I mean how much lower than .13 a minute can you go? Unless I am misunderstanding. It appears that calls to Mexico may be quite expensive, but as others have stated this may not be an effective plan.[/quote]

If it's about phone rates, I agree, not an effective plan and not sure this is worth it. If it's about taking away FV for cell phone violation I think it is an effective plan and reasonable approach. Not whether inmates should or should not use cell phones, we all know the answer. But is the penalty commensurate with the crime?

They want to have their opinion heard. We're talking about it. CDCR heard about it, apparently talking about it, and posted their response. Seems to be working, they're getting heard.
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With almost all telephony systems being digital in todays world, phones are all ran over VOIP (Voice Over Internet Protocol).
Phone calls are almost virtually free between all states and some countries, Canada, US, Mexico have been all VOIP for a long time now.

You can download TextNow (A free app on the google play store) and they give you a free phone # and text messaging that proves the point.

To All 3 countries, calls should be a maximum of $10 a month for unlimited minutes.

I cant argue the cellphone logic in favor of inmates BUT CDCR is behind the times.

Check Out Mesh Detect at prisoncellphones.com

That is what will fix the problem.

CDCR is paranoid of giving technology that other states have embraced.

They are letting GlobalTel fool them into thinking they have the situation under control or that increased punishment will work.
If you dangle a carrot in front of a rabbit it is gonna try to get that carrot.
The problem is far deeper with such an easy solution.

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With almost all telephony systems being digital in todays world, phones are all ran over VOIP (Voice Over Internet Protocol).
Phone calls are almost virtually free between all states and some countries, Canada, US, Mexico have been all VOIP for a long time now.

You can download TextNow (A free app on the google play store) and they give you a free phone # and text messaging that proves the point.

To All 3 countries, calls should be a maximum of $10 a month for unlimited minut
But you're not adding in the additional services GTL provides for monitoring and maintenance. And I think the point of the protest is the punitive measure for possessing a cell phone as it pertains to Family Visits, not the rate of our calls.
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But you're not adding in the additional services GTL provides for monitoring and maintenance. And I think the point of the protest is the punitive measure for possessing a cell phone as it pertains to Family Visits, not the rate of our calls.

First, GlobalTel is a Scam period. I am not gonna argue why. I would need to write a book on it and then it would be volumes.

Second, I do agree that the point of the protest is "supposedly" dudes are mad they are gonna lose their family visits if the get caught with a cellphone. Well guys, hate to break it to ya, DONT GET CAUGHT WITH A CELL PHONE.

Third: It is a stupid reason to protest. These guys are showing they are not the brightest. There are way better things to protest... This is a dumb one.

Put this into perspective.

What? There are consequences for breaking rules? How dare they take away a privilege for my actions! What do you mean I have to find someone else to hold my phone for me, don't they know I am a lifer! How dare they give a privilege that incentive's inmates to stay away from contraband!

But CDCR AGAIN, to flip this around... Should be using technology to combat the bigger problem... The Black Market from staff corruption ... in the first place.
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I agree. I have no idea why the response included FV regs except to use a "look over there!" kind of redirect. I could give my two cents on those new regs, but that's a topic for another thread.

I'm curious if folks are willing to list the facilities they know are participating in the phone protest.
I think CMC is participating in the phone strike. Unsure about the food strike.
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The inmates in B-Yard at Pelican Bay State Prison are participating in the protest as far as not using the phones.I am unsure about the food strike portion of it. Havent heard from my husband in 15 days.just in case there are any people with loved ones in the bay i thought id share what i knew.
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The inmates in B-Yard at Pelican Bay State Prison are participating in the protest as far as not using the phones.I am unsure about the food strike portion of it. Havent heard from my husband in 15 days.just in case there are any people with loved ones in the bay i thought id share what i knew.
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Got confirmation that at Sierra Conservation Camp that the hispanics are participating in the strike. Didn't get to much other info from my SO's friend who called for a minute just to let me know why I wasn't going to hear from him. The friend mentioned it was a state wide thing from what he knew, and it was a strike on GTL. Didn't get much more info than that.
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