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Old 12-02-2017, 07:15 PM
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Hi, My daughter is in prison in Vandalia, Missouri. There is a girl outside of prison who has called the warden 3 times telling lies that my daughter is harassing her. My daughter has done everything she can think of to get her to stop.caseworker will not help her. She says she is a civilian so they can't do anything. But my daughter is threatens to get locked down each time.my daughters boyfriend of 3 years started see this girl after she went to prison. He has since tried to break up with her. He is in jail now and writing my daughter, this girl found out and is mad. My daughter has had the prison monitor her mail to prove she is not write or calling this girl. Caseworker asked her if she has any letters for proof and girl said she got mad and tore them up. She called last week and told the warden she is married to ex boyfriend (which is a lie) and put a cease and desist order on my daughter to stop writing ex boyfriend. Can anyone help me figure out what to do before she gets locked down for 10 days.
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The prison can & will investigate if they think there is any truth or actionable violations. Mail and phones are already monitored. And somehow I doubt if they'll take this girl too seriously if she has a different "tattletale" story every time she calls.

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The 'girl' can't ask for a protection order/cease and desist order filed if she's not the target. He would have to file that.

And, as patch said, her calls and letters are monitored, so she has an affirmative defense that all her communications are known.

The only other question is if your daughter and he have permission to write each other.
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She did have permission to write him. Some how this girl who said she is married to him but isn't got a cease and dissist order put on my daughter not to write him. She went to open door to speak with counselor. And resieved a letter from ex boyfriend ten minutes before going in. She let the counselor read the letter and asked if it sounded like he didnt want her to write him. The couselor said no, but there was nothing she could do about it. The girl has called 4 times and said different stuff but cant prove any of it. But my daughter was put under investigation and even locked down for 3 days while they investigated. She had a block put on all mail from this girl but still recieved to letters since. Was told they must have slipped through! Also he did not do it because she got a letter same day as the order!
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Personally, I think your daughter should cut off all communication herself just for peace of mind. If everything is being watched and she has done nothing wrong, there shouldn't be an issue.

Can you get a lawyer for harassment issues on your daughter for this person?
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Not uncommon thing in jail. Your daughter needs to let the investigation go where it must. If we can see what's going on in your brief description, then the warden can see.
But they must do their do dilligence, and follow the investigation through.
I'm sure this girl will continue to send mail with false return addresses, so your daughter should save any.
As long as your daughter is doing he'd part, time will clear it up.
BTW that boyfriend needs to be out of pic, he's toxic.
There is nothing anybody can do to control that kind of female drama, but just remember to carry on as normal, give her no attention, and they ALWAYS dig their own ho!es and fall it. Its not easy, Mom, but she will get past this.
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This is apparently not a stable relationship. Sounds like daughter would do best to cut bait and find a new fishing hole...

As to the unit, there is nothing to do to prevent calls from an outside entity. The unit absolutely can screen the incoming AND outgoing mail. If there is nothing to the claims, then the matter goes away. The concern comes in the 'has done everything to get her to stop' which suggests there is some manner of communication between the two women...

And quit tearing up potential evidence of wrong-doing...
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I'd agree maybe its time to dump the *boyfriend*
And I'd read the op's post to mean the other girl said she torn up the letters, not the daughter.
Man, that girl sounds like a nut case.

I hope things settle down for your daughter soon. Enough drama as it is without adding some nutjob into the mix.
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I think your daughter needs to grow up and stop communicating with the boyfriend and I'm sure it's not ok to be writing other facilities at all!!!
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My daughter is not the one who tore anything up. The case worker talked to the girl on the outside who said my daughter was sending her letters , and asked ger if she had the letter to prove it. The other girl said she got mad and tore iit up. Because sge never got a letter from my daughter in the first place. She is just trying to keep getting her in trouble. Has never had proof of anything, but my daught gets put under investigation everytime.
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This is apparently not a stable relationship. Sounds like daughter would do best to cut bait and find a new fishing hole...

As to the unit, there is nothing to do to prevent calls from an outside entity. The unit absolutely can screen the incoming AND outgoing mail. If there is nothing to the claims, then the matter goes away. The concern comes in the 'has done everything to get her to stop' which suggests there is some manner of communication between the two women...

And quit tearing up potential evidence of wrong-doing...
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My daughter is not the one who tore anything up. The case worker talked to the girl on the outside who said my daughter was sending her letters , and asked ger if she had the letter to prove it. The other girl said she got mad and tore iit up. Because sge never got a letter from my daughter in the first place. She is just trying to keep getting her in trouble. Has never had proof of anything, but my daught gets put under investigation everytime.
There is nothing just about any of this. If I were you, I would counter with a call to the wardens office. Explain your side of the story. I would also file a complaint with the local police department. Maybe after them speaking to her, if they do, she will stop. Something on official record can only help. Get a POA from your daughter. That will help with any outside dealings you may have to conduct on her behalf, possibly including filing charges on her behalf.
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You can basically do nothing because it is prison, don't expect to be treated fairly, even with or without a complaint system in your jurisdiction, you are an outsider, he is the one doing the time, you can't help much even if you want to. When I was in jail I was also treated unfairly but I learned to let it go and cope with the system, you should him talk to him, give him support and ask him to stay strong, it may help since you are his relative, it is always better for you to say this than the prison officer as he may listen to your advice.
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