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"The Department of Homeland Security on Wednesday made good on a Trump administration promise by opening a new government agency for victims of crimes committed by illegal immigrants.

The office of Victims of Immigration Crime Engagement, or VOICE, was opened by DHS Secretary John Kelly, who was joined by both Acting U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement Director Tom Homan and House Judiciary Chairman Rep. Bob Goodlatte, R-Va. At the joint press conference, Kelly said the VOICE office will help "shine a light" on victims.

"We are giving people who are victimized by illegal aliens, for the first time, a voice of their own," Kelly said. "They're casualties of crimes that should have never taken place." "


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OMG! How is that freak'n Constitutional Or legal...or...Holy Shit Unbelievable.
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They're so special! Riiiiight. What a nasty way to use victims, just use, us, use.
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I remember pre-election, Trump had mentioned the shootings in San Bernardino and reiterated the terrorists ties and anti-immigration rhetoric. Ironically, several of the SB victims spoke against Trump's use of the event (by legal citizens) as a way to justify his then-proposed policies.

"As the widow of someone who was murdered by terrorists, I can understand that sometimes it is easy to give into your fears and to want to blame someone or something for what is happening. However, regardless of your political leanings, Trump closing our borders to certain countries is a basic human rights issue." source

I realize this was aimed at the immigration ban, but if VOICE is in an effort to give "people who are victimized by illegal aliens, for the first time, a voice of their own", don't you have to be willing to listen to ALL victims, first?

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Cute name!

It sounds like a fertile hunting ground for ICE, that is if any of the victims who are also among the "unwanted" are stupid enough to call the "The office of Victims of Immigration Crime Engagement" (voice). I wonder if the agency will report the number of "victims" who they deport, whose "voices" will be heard saying please don't deport me.
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"Never should have happened." I'm speechless.

It's is implying that if you are the victim of an offender who is a US citizen, well, that should have happened. As if you suffer more or differently because of where the offender was born.

And a voice? What voice? Will they be given a special platform to tell us their stories? Other than the news and talk radio shows that already salivate over high profile crime victims and beg them to come on their shows to cry for their audience?

Having been the victim a violent crime by a US citizen, I resent that I am entitled to less of a "voice", less help, less compassion because the offender was born here.
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It sounds like a fertile hunting ground for ICE, that is if any of the victims who are also among the "unwanted" are stupid enough to call the "The office of Victims of Immigration Crime Engagement" (voice). I wonder if the agency will report the number of "victims" who they deport, whose "voices" will be heard saying please don't deport me.
Very good point. I'd like to ask how many victims are undocumented themselves, but that would require reporting.
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And sometimes I remember why I love human beings so much.

"By Thursday, VOICE’s most prominent feature—a hotline through which people can call to learn, among other things, “additional criminal or immigration history may be available about an alien to victims or their families”—was swamped with prank calls reporting illegal aliens. As in alien aliens. And judging by the enraged email that ICE sent me when I asked for comment, the agency is supremely pissed off about it."

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Wow! Somebody's mad. I clicked on the link twice just to be sure and both times, it said "Forbidden." I've never seen that one before.


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"By Thursday, VOICE’s most prominent feature—a hotline through which people can call to learn, among other things, “additional criminal or immigration history may be available about an alien to victims or their families”—was swamped with prank calls reporting illegal aliens. As in alien aliens. And judging by the enraged email that ICE sent me when I asked for comment, the agency is supremely pissed off about it."

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Many folks are appropriately wary of the new "war on immigrants", legal residents or not, by the US government. People who have been living here lawfully for years on legitimate visas or green cards were immediately (and unlawfully) detained at airports and other ports of entry. "Trust me" is more than risky with these people in power.
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Ha! Someone probably reported it. Try the new link...here
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I read where the database includes the names of infants as perpetrators and names the people who have applied for amnesty, which is supposed to be kept secret. It sounds like the no fly list.

I'm not surprised that the ICE bureaucrats didn't get past the fear mongering purpose of the program.
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