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Zelda50 01-31-2007 04:13 PM

Federal Judge Orders Medical Care for federal inmates
Federal judge orders care for 2 inmates MICHAEL P. MAYKO

A federal judge, frustrated by the medical attention given to two
inmates, ordered one released on $1 million bond so he could seek
private care, while the other must be taken by prison officials to an
orthopedic surgeon.

not_unrealistic 02-06-2007 11:24 AM

Sounds familiar. A few years ago my b/f tore his ACL and they gave him a bandage, crutches and advil. It wasn't until I had my senator call the prison that they had a change of heart and got him his MRI and transfer for surgery.

JoyceRooni 02-07-2007 10:18 AM

The BOP website shows 2 Gary John's, both of whom have been released. Bruce Forrest is at Devens though.

ttom 02-13-2007 07:39 PM

My wife is currently going through the same situation at Marianna, she injured her arm and was unable to move it due to the severe swelling, but they gave her an aspirin and told her to go back to work in the kitchen, she is now unable to lift more than 20 pounds with her left arm and all they will tell her is to quit complaining. The injury occured last September, you would think that they would wise up sooner or later.

ctmom 02-14-2007 05:51 AM

Thanks for bringing that to our attention. The lack of quality medical care is one of the scariest things about incarceration, and one of the most inhumane. What a system!

TxRhino 02-24-2007 01:52 PM

The poor quality of Medical Care our Inmates receive has long been a major concern of mine. As a practioneer of the Ancient Art of Medicine, I was suspect and had heard many horror stories of the BOP's inadequate care long before my wife ever became a guest of the FBOP. As a medical provider, I found some of the stories to be almost beyond belief. In my mind, I could not imagine any one getting into medicine whom did not have a compassionate heart.

What I have learned since my wife's incarceration has literally set me back on my heels. It was therefore with this thought in mind that we decided to secretely document several medical cases (including her own care) at my wife's facility. I have had several of the other inmates share their experiences with my wife and have (behind the scenes) coached family members with their inquires into treatment rendered.

What my wife and I have witnessed during this endeavor is not only shocking... it is down right neglectful. I do not know where this will end, but as soon as my wife is out of harms way... we intend to bring all we have learned to the fore front.

Our loved ones may have been outside the boundaries of the law, but I sincerly believe they deserve far better treatment than they are currently receiving. I am also not on a witch hunt... I truely want to see the overall quality of care rendered stepped up a notch.

In fairness I have seen some good things come from some good folks in the system, but unfortunately this is the exception and not the rule.
For those of you in favor of Socialized Medicine, as some of our more liberal politicians seem to be... I would simple ask that you look at BOP's current system and ask yourself... is this what I want.

I will try and keep everyone abreast of where this goes and would simply ask that you wish me luck and keep us in your prayers.

Keep the Faith

Michael :thumbsup:

Valentina 02-24-2007 02:05 PM

I couldn't access the article. Does anyone have it? This is what we are going through right now. Thanks for your help!

boflipflops36 02-24-2007 08:57 PM

That is so interesting.I am interested in your Ancient Art of Medicine.
What do you do? Is it the old fashion way of herbs and teas, roots,? I wish I knew more about it. The old way of life is a good way.
I am going to keep up with my brother treatment also. They give them what they want them to have in prison. He took all his med and a letter from his DR. Didn't do anygood. Good Luck to you both.

krummy 02-27-2007 11:02 AM

Very interesting; my wife comments constantly on the lack of medical care in her facility. The way she puts it; if you have something seriously wrong with you; you will probably be dead before you can see a doctor. It takes weeks and sometimes even months before you can see a real doctor depending on what your ailment it is. Now I realize this is prison; but we as society take care of our dogs and animals better than that. What has society come to when a living breathing human being is treated less than a beast? SORRY; I guess I got carried away. Just really compassionate about some things.

Zelda50 02-28-2007 07:45 PM

With my husband serving more years in prison and with him getting older, this is the one real concern that I have nagging in my mind - that he will have problems with his health and still be in BOP custody. Z.

Zelda50 03-01-2007 06:35 PM

I just found out the original link for this article no longer exists. So here is the whole article.

Federal judge orders care for 2 inmates
— A federal judge, frustrated by the medical attention given to two
inmates, ordered one released on $1 million bond so he could seek
private care, while the other must be taken by prison officials to an
orthopedic surgeon.
U.S. District Judge Janet C. Hall issued the orders after hearing
lawyers in two separate hearings just hours apart complain that their
clients did not receive adequate treatment.

"It is my view that the United States of America, through its Bureau of
Prisons, should take care of the medical conditions of its prisoners in
custody," Hall said Monday.

The inmates are Bruce Forest, 50, the reputed Porta-Potty bomber from
Weston, and Gary John, the 58-year-old retired FBI agent from Stratford
recently convicted of assaulting a federal marshal.

Both are in the custody of the U.S. Bureau of Prisons at the private
Donald C. Wyatt detention center in Central Falls, R.I.

"Lawyers have an incredible sense of frustration with the medical care
at Wyatt," said Robert Mann, John's lawyer. "Our clients are just not
getting the medical attention needed at Wyatt."

Wyatt officials did not return telephone calls Monday.

However, Felicia Ponce, a spokeswoman for the prisons bureau, said her
agency takes "any medical concerns of our inmates very seriously & we
make it our utmost priority."

Ponce could not comment directly on the two cases.

But Hall pointed out that there is no evidence that Forest received a CT
scan for an abnormality in his lymph nodes, or that John received an MRI
for a knee injury he suffered in October at the facility.

She described the medical reports given her as "inadequate.

"At some point, I am going to find out why we got the report we got,
which makes no sense," the judge said after reviewing the records in
Forest's case. Last year, U.S. Magistrate Judge Holly B. Fitzsimmons
ordered that Forest have a medical evaluation for the lymph node

Forest was taken to the federal medical facility at Fort Devens, Mass.,
and stayed there for several weeks without any determination that he has

Assistant U.S. Attorney David Ring agreed that what was "contemplated by
the court was not done" at Devens.

As a result, Hall granted a request from Bernard Grossberg, Forest's
lawyer, to release him on $1 million bond until Feb. 12. In addition to
the lymph node problem, Grossberg said Forest suffers from a heart
condition, high cholesterol and a deteriorating jaw bone condition.

On Feb. 12 Forest is to return to court to plead guilty to a federal
charge carrying a mandatory five-year prison term because of the
bombings. Neither Grossberg nor Ring would disclose the actual charge.

Until then Forest must stay at home, wear an electronic monitoring
device and leave only for doctors' appointments in the company of a
Weston police officer. The judge also gave Weston police and the U.S.
Probation Department permission to search Forest's car and Weston home
for weapons, explosives and drugs at any time. "We will give him a lot
of attention," Weston Police Chief Anthony Land said. "This was a long
investigation and the acts scared a lot of people," Land said. "The
pattern of violence escalated as time went on."

Besides blowing up portable toilets, Forest is also accused of
detonating homemade bombs last year near a vacant gas station in Weston
and a former school in Norwalk. No one was injured in any of the

Meanwhile, John is facing a possible eight-year prison term after being
convicted of assaulting deputy U.S. Marshal John Masterson.

He has been on crutches since October for a knee injury received while
playing basketball at Wyatt.

Assistant U.S. Attorney Anthony Kaplan told the judge that John was
taken to a doctor who recommended physical therapy.

Hall ordered Mann to set up an appointment for his client with an
orthopedic surgeon who will report on John's injury as well as
treatment, including whether surgery is necessary.

Valentina 03-01-2007 07:39 PM

A million thanks! I can really use this. Thanks again.

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