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choclgs 11-16-2019 12:31 PM

'American horror story': The prison voices you don't hear
 
'American horror story': The prison voices you don't hear from have the most to tell us

"Warning: This article includes graphic descriptions.

The men cry.

They speak in hushed tones, fearful they'll be labeled a "snitch" by guards.

Some witnessed so much mind-scarring violence that they fear they will never heal. Like the Alabama prisoner who saw another human being sodomized with a broomstick and assaulted with boiling water poured down his anus. Another man, in drug debt, was made to walk on all fours wearing a collar and leash like a dog.

All too often, the voices of the people directly affected by the Alabama prison system are not heard. Effectively cut off from the outside world, the lucky men have loved ones to advocate for their safety and welfare. Others have no one, can't afford to make phone calls from prison or have difficulty getting stamps to write.

In many ways, the state speaks for them. "

https://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com...382a5-58408851

Born 01-08-2020 04:30 AM

Reading that was quite unbelievable and scary too.

Bikerguy 01-08-2020 08:24 AM

Horrible.

In my opinion it all starts and stops with money.

Alabama is one of our poorer states. Because of this they don't pay their COs very well. On average $13 an hour. And those that do work, don't stay long with an average term of 1-3 years before moving on to something better.

So we have underpaid staff and I'm sure there is a huge retention and recruiting problem. Not enough quality staff to make heads of tails of the problem.

On top of that...I doubt they have the budget for good quality programing. It's clear the inmates are running the prison.

GaReform 01-08-2020 08:59 AM

If we allowed that to happen to any prisoners of war in our custody, the world would be outraged. But let it happen inside our prisons to our own people & all that happens is a news story (maybe) & some head shaking. It says more about the people who are on the outside of the bars than it does about the people inside the bars.
Where are the protests against this dehumanization? There is more sympathy for sad looking animals shown suffering inhumane situations than there is for our own people who sit locked away in similar conditions. When will Sarah McLachlan be on tv raising awareness about them? There will never be a commercial like this for someone incarcerated. https://youtu.be/9X4YGZG1nyM

Bikerguy 01-08-2020 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaReform (Post 7806869)
If we allowed that to happen to any prisoners of war in our custody, the world would be outraged. But let it happen inside our prisons to our own people & all that happens is a news story (maybe) & some head shaking. It says more about the people who are on the outside of the bars than it does about the people inside the bars.
Where are the protests against this dehumanization? There is more sympathy for sad looking animals shown suffering inhumane situations than there is for our own people who sit locked away in similar conditions. When will Sarah McLachlan be on tv raising awareness about them? There will never be a commercial like this for someone incarcerated. https://youtu.be/9X4YGZG1nyM


Well there are only two types of people that really care what happens in prison.

Inmate/former inmates and their families

COs and their families.

Almost Everyone else takes a "tough on crime mentality". Many people feel harsh sentences and harsh living conditions are enough to rehabilitate someone out of a life of crime.

But that has been proven false. Look prison should not be a country club, but it should also not be inhumane ether.

Born 01-09-2020 04:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaReform (Post 7806869)
If we allowed that to happen to any prisoners of war in our custody, the world would be outraged. But let it happen inside our prisons to our own people & all that happens is a news story (maybe) & some head shaking. It says more about the people who are on the outside of the bars than it does about the people inside the bars.
Where are the protests against this dehumanization? There is more sympathy for sad looking animals shown suffering inhumane situations than there is for our own people who sit locked away in similar conditions. When will Sarah McLachlan be on tv raising awareness about them? There will never be a commercial like this for someone incarcerated. https://youtu.be/9X4YGZG1nyM


For anything to happen the prisoners need to obtain world wide recognition, which means that the media needs to expose the inhumane conditions that the inmates are experiencing. Sadly people both inside the united states and outside the united states are oblivious to the goings on. If the media exposed the harsh conditions, the drugs, murders,rapes and so on. You could be sure that all the human rights groups world wide would be on the band wagon to voice their opinions and request for new prison reforms and changes.


But sadly the only people who know whats really going on is the families of those whom are incarcerated.


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