Marc was charged with murder and plead down to Assault with a Deadly weapon with intent to kill.....major BS...but I suppose they consider him a violent offender....I am just curious to see how many of us are in love with such "violent creatures!!!" LOL...I love my VO!
~Katie

Mine is also considered a VO due to the extent of the Felonious Assult. No matter, he's a teddy bear with me!!!

Two of eight of my penpals are definitely considered "violent"...a third one is iffy. He had a gun present but never threatened to use it and nobody was injured. Go figure, he has the longest sentence.

My adopted son is considered to be a Violent Offender because he used a gun to rob a drug dealer at the age of fifteen. (I didn't meet him until he was 18!) Recently, the parole board didn't want to believe him that he didn't know/ remember, nine years later, what the caliber of the gun was. He was just a kid (albeit a rotten one!) trying to survive on his own on the streets of North Philly. Here, in PA, you are a Violent Offender if you use a squirt water gun to rob a convenience store. I know a kid (young man) who has been inside about five years now, for doing just that.

Wow....bethbupp...that is crazy...I dont like that term Violent Offender.....Most of these men are not violent at all....Thanks for your answers.....
~Katie

Most of these men are not violent at all ~Katie
Hi Katie,
I seem to keep seeing you all over different forums. I think you posted a response to my daughter in the Siblings forum. Anyway, I think that the law's definition of violent is very different from that of the real world. My son is so "violent" that his idea of a really fun day is taking his littlest sister (3 the last time he saw her) down the water slide at the pool. I just hope that he gets to, next summer. We're in week eight of waiting for a decision from the parole board . . .

Beth....LOL...I am EVERYWHERE!!!!!! I try to look at everything here and see if I can relate to the things in different forums!!! I too hope your son will be home soon...Is your daughter Eli's sis...or something like that????
~Katie

Is your daughter Eli's sis...or something like that???? ~Katie
LOL! Between biological sisters and adopted ones, Eli has 7 sisters, but yes, my 11-year-old is "Eli's Sis". Eli has 3 sisters on his bio father's side that he has only met once (the 9-year-old writes to him); two brothers and a sister on his bio mom's side (he hasn't lived with them since he was eight, and they were 7, 6, & 4, but the one boy was locked up with him for years); and I have a total of 5 kids -- Eli (24), an 21-year-old boy at Army boot camp, an 18-year-old girl, Eli's Sis, and a 4-year-old girl. You and Marc look about Eli's age?

I am 22 and Marc is 21.....
Wow...so many kids....so little time!!! :)
~katie

Wow...so many kids....so little time!!! :) ~katie
I only have 2 kids at home -- the two littlest. Eli is a 15-minute phone call every other day, and a 4 page letter every other day, when he was in the hole. I do keep a watchful long-distance (6 hrs away) eye on the sibs on his bio mom's side. The 23-year-old boy is a parole absconder & recently took a 9mm bullet through his chest. The bio mom is a paranoid schizophrenic drug-abusing non-English-speaking bag-lady. Gee, I wonder why the two boys wound up in prison.

My son's first felony is for domestic assault. When my son was 17, his gf's parents let him move in with their 18 yr old daughter in their house. :argh: Everybody in the house had drug addictions and nobody had a job (you figure it out). I tried desperately to get him out of this situation for 2 yrs.
One night the girl stayed out all night and came home stoned out of her mind. My son and the gf had a fight, she said throw me the phone, I will call the person I was with so they can tell you there was no other guy. He threw the cordless (ok, maybe too hard because they were both angry). The phone hit her in the eye and she got a black eye. The parents called the police. It was a mess. He was so upset with himself for hurting his gf that he climbed on top of the house with a knife, threatening to jump with the knife pointing at his chest. He was finally talked down after 2 hours. In court, the gf tried to get the charges dropped. She said she would have caught the phone if she had not been so stoned. The court asked her what she was high on and she told them her mother's pills. But, as I was told, when there is a domestic assault case, it becomes a state case so she couldn't drop it. His biggest regret now is pleading guilty. He was told if he pled guilty, he would get out of jail quicker. That is all he cared about at the time. :banghead:
Another interesting part of this story is that my son was the 2nd to go to prison for assault on this girl. And there was another one after him. It was a merry-go-round. As soon as one got out, she would go back to him until the next one got out. These men were idiots, including my son! :banghead: He was so blinded by love for her that he believed all her lies.
She once told my son she was pregnant by him. My son loved the idea, was in the delivery room and had a big surprise when it turned out the baby was mixed race when my son and the gf were the same race; oops! :hmm:
Still, my son took better care of the baby than the mother. He loved that baby. He drew the line with drug usage when a child came into the picture. That is why he was home and she was out running around all night before the fight. And that is why he was so mad that she was still using.
After prison, his PO let him move back in with her, despite my pleadings and giving him reasons for him not to let that happen. :no: But the PO regarded me as a crazed mother. Well, duh!
I threw it up in his face after my son got in trouble again; for selling out of that house. Imagine that, duh again! But of course the PO got us back. My son was finally on the straight path; good job, college, etc. when he was violated for being in a car with somebody who had pot under her seat that he didn't know about. In fact, it was the first time he had met the girl. She was from another city 3 hours from our house. Here I was, relieved that he was making new friends. Geesh!
The PO told my son and me that no matter what, he was sending him back for being within arm's reach. My son gave up caring about everything and helped the PO send him back. :angry:

WHEW! And that is the condensed version!

So, yes, I have a loved one that is considered a VO.

My husband was an accessory to a robbery. the guy he happened to be with was running from 3 life sentences. My husbsnd met him that night at one of his so called friends home who conveintly forgot to tell him that the guy was a wanted person. Wlll while at his so called friend house he was high he was smoking weed and drinking. They gave him a pill and my husband (dumbself) didnt even ask what it was. he was incoherent, but anyway he was in the store with the guy when he robbed it. And he was caught on tape standing there and then the guy handed him the gun at first he said no that not mine but then he started to argue with the man behind the counter. Well anyway they went back to this hotel room where he left my husband and went swerving around and the police found him and he went back to where my husband was and started a shoot out ... then he told my husband to tell his wife and kids that he shot himself. The police knew that it was him doing the shooting they rushed the guy to the hospital.They told my husband that he was being charged with 3 counts of accesory. and when the guy died they raised it to 3 counts of AGG robbery.So he is considered a violent offender. so we are doing an appeal for when we did the first one they told him that he shouldnt have received this much time. So hopefully we win that and he can come back home to me and our beautiful daughter.

My husband and best friend is considered a vo also and he is the sweetest most caring man I've ever known(believe me I've been with some real winners!) Everyone who meets my man likes him instantly.I've been with him for 9 years and we have 5 kids who miss him terribly :cry:
We have soooo many people that love and miss him but unfortuneatly he was suckered into a plea bargain and now our lives are never going to be the same.
It always seems to happen to the good people who don't deserve it and their families are left to suffer tremendously as well.
We know the truth of what wonderful people our loved ones are.
Unfortuneatly he was never allowed to tell his side of the story like so many others like him and had an extemely lazy public pretender...I mean defender!
So the courts say he's guilty of a violent offense but I know and so do many others that he is special and wonderful!
All of our lives are forever changed but they can never take our memories and our love away from our loved ones that are incarcerated

Thanks for your responses....I like to get the story behind the "Violent critters" that we love so much!!!!
I am going to bed!!!! LOL Its about time...I will check in tomorrow to this thread and keep reading...yall keep posting....Goodnight!
~Katie

Hey Sweetie,,yes Mike Is Considered A V/o ( Agg.battety Causing Great Bodily Harm) But Hes My Baby And I Love Him...hes A Cream Puff To Me

Marc was charged with murder and plead down to Assault with a Deadly weapon with intent to kill.....major BS...but I suppose they consider him a violent offender....I am just curious to see how many of us are in love with such "violent creatures!!!" LOL...I love my VO!
~Katie katie, do you believe that your man did the crime? If so do you ever wonder if you might hurt you when he gets out? Please don't take that the wrong way because I just want some insight to what other women in my situation deal with in there day to day thoughts, feelings, and fears! My man just took a plea deal on a murder charge and swears he didn't do it and I'm feeling a lot of mixed and confused feelings so I want some insight in how to deal with what is going on in my heart & mind!
thanks :confused: C.H.

Raises hand... :)

I have told my story so many hundreds of times on PTO and I am lazy, so I will just copy/paste a previous response in here from when I first arrived on PTO...

My guy was young (22) and screwed up on drugs and alcohol at the time, and got himself into a wrong-place wrong-time situation where he could see no way out than to kill to save himself. Poor judgment due to drugs & booze and a history of being harmed himself led to a rage that left a man who was much bigger than him, and whom had made it clear was going to hurt him or worse, dead after numerous blows to the head. Yep, that's pretty violent. I can't say that if I was in the condition he was in and had, especially, lived in his shoes and through his past that I might not have been capable of the same under such circumstances... other than the fact, of course, that I am a female and much smaller and would have no doubt been the one killed in such a situation rather than being the killer.

He killed, yes, no question about that. The only other thing I can really say is what I know, and have known all the years I've known him; in his heart, he is not a murderer, even though the State says that's what he is.

my-heart-hurts, to answer your question to Katie for myself - no, I have no fear of him at all. I knew him for years before prison, have known him almost 16 years now, I'd put my life and anyone else's I care about in his hands without hesitation. The violent act he committed was borne out of an instinct to save himself from harm or death - he would never harm me, or anyone else except under such extenuating circumstances as what got him there. It was a tragic, terrible situation.

Great conversation starter, Katie! Thanks for starting this thread! :yes:

All I have to say is why does society have to continually label? As if the conviction and the sentence and prison life were not enough of a burden to bear, now we have to give them such a horrible name ... violent offenders.

I'm sure there are genuine VO's ... people that really do harm maliciously, but I'll bet everything that most that HAVE to be labelled a VO by state definition, nowhere near truly deserve that label.

I met my fiance while he has been incarcerated and I trust him with my life more so than anyone else out here in the free world who have no conviction and walk this earth of their own free will. I'm more afraid of my neighbours than the chance of ever being afraid of him. No, he's not perfect, I wouldn't want him to be, but he doesn't deserve such a label either. Doesn't deserve to be "classified" like that at all {shakes head}

I'm just glad he has me, to wrap plenty of love around him to ward off the emotional sting from all these punitive arrows slung around ... *sigh*

yep im loving a "violent offender" too. the charge:armed robbery & assault with a deadly weapon. the story: his little brother got robbed and he went the guys house that did it to get his brothers stuff back...with his brother...i understand the armed part because they had a weapon& the assault because they roughed them up BUT still cant figure out how its robbery when its your stuff though?:confused:

My son was a look out with a guy that took $5 from someone at knifepoint. He wasn't even at the scene and he is a vo. As a result, he can't take college courses, and the guy he was with...he's at home with his family, it was my son's first offense. The system sucks!! :angry:

Marc was charged with murder and plead down to Assault with a Deadly weapon with intent to kill.....major BS...but I suppose they consider him a violent offender....I am just curious to see how many of us are in love with such "violent creatures!!!" LOL...I love my VO!
~Katie

Yes, my man is considered a violent offender. He was convicted of a murder that he did not do. Of course if you say that to anyone outside of PTO they don't beleive it because they don't know him. I met him after he was in prison and I can tell that he couldn't murder anyone. I have people ask me all the time if I am afraid of him. How could I possibly be afraid of someone who shows me the love that he does. And if I were afraid of him why would I be with him? Someday all of these people will see just how much he cares for me and they will see what a good man he is.

matt is a violent offender, and i love him to absolute pieces. he is not "violent" in my opnion. so yes...i love someone "violent" lol makes no difference to me :)

Pooh's in on attempted murder, fighting a case, he's claiming self defense however the police report and eye witness accounts are against that. I know him to not be that person on paper. He suffers schizophrenia and drug addicting. No, he wasnt' taking his meds, and yes, he was high.

If I felt he was capable of hurting me, I would not be with him. He's never raise his voice or hand to me.

My baby is considered to be a violent offender but I don't think he is violent. I can't go into what he did because he doesn't want me telling everyone but what he did was to me self-defense. Anyone in his situation would have done the same thing he did. He was protecting his life.

Brant is considered violent just because he had a gun with him. The stupidest thing he's ever done. *sigh* He's sweet as pie with me. I can't even imagine him ever being considered violent. I guess drugs make people crazy, though, huh?

Well, be sure to add me to "A women in love with a VO", HOWEVER...

I LOVE ME SOME HIM!

my guy is in for a violent crime. seems strange to me - as soon as i heard he got arrested - i was like WHAT? ARE YOU KIDDING - he was always the kind of guy who i would have figured would be "Least likely to ever end up in prison". i don't think he's a voilent PERSON at all (like i would never in a zillion years be afraid of him) but he is considered a violent offender

My husband is considered a vo- armed robbery- it was over a drug beef. The whole thing happened during one of our infamous splits- he used to just flip out when we were apart and he would do anything and everything. At any rate, no I'm not scared of him, but I have seen the scary side of him directed at other people. He has a bad temper and he's a big guy- 6'4" 230 pds. So he looks scary too. I have to say right now I'm glad he looks like that because he is in what they call the "Gladiator Dorm" and he doesn't have any problems. You can imagine what a nightmare that place is, and he's there until March. He and I have gotten into some pretty nasty arguments, but he's never raised a hand to me.

He's signed up for anger management again- he's the one they tossed out the first time because he got mad!?! :( I hope he gets it under control before he comes home.

Kevin is considered a "violent offender" (yeah right...the man wouldn't intentially harm a flea). He was convicted of 3rd degree Robbery. It was all over a "drug deal"...a drug deal gone bad if you will. Dude took off with the money and the drugs...Kevin chased him to get the money (if he didn't...he would have probably been dead when he showed up with no money...or no "product") and he had a pistol...and hit the dude in the head with it a bunch of times. Therefore...he's "violent". I LOVE MY VO, TOO!!!! :D
*doesn't see where the "robbery" came in*
Selena

katie, do you believe that your man did the crime? If so do you ever wonder if you might hurt you when he gets out? Please don't take that the wrong way because I just want some insight to what other women in my situation deal with in there day to day thoughts, feelings, and fears! My man just took a plea deal on a murder charge and swears he didn't do it and I'm feeling a lot of mixed and confused feelings so I want some insight in how to deal with what is going on in my heart & mind!
thanks :confused: C.H.

I know for FACT that Marc did NOT kill anyone....he was at a party with some other guys...someone came out with a gun and Marc punched the guy in the face and started to leave...The guy got beat to death by some others and since Marc was the first one to throw a blow he was charged...there is no self defense law in NC...and Marc was "guilty by association" even though he tried to break it up....I know for a fact he has NEVER intentionally hurt anyone and I am in no way shape or form afraid that he might hurt me.....He doesnt have a hurtful bone in his body.....Just at the wrong place at the wrong time WITH THE WRONG CROWD...as 16 year olds tend to do sometimes....now he is 21, and serving 3 1/2 more years in prison for being a teenager at a party....:(
To answer your question...I will never be afraid of him....he is the most wonderful caring loving person I know....and *no offense taken*
~Katie

Katie,
I feel bad this happened. Despite what others may say, I do believe that some people do get in trouble because they are in the wrong place at the wrong time. How awful for you both. I hope the next 3 1/2 yrs fly by for you. You two make such a sweet couple. I really like that pic!

Thanks Jan7El....I think it happens more than a lot of people really know....being at the wrong place..at the wrong time....just proves that you should choose your friends wisely......I just hate that he will be labeled "violent" forever.....but I know the truth, he knows the truth, and most important God knows the truth....
~Katie

and most important God knows the truth....
~Katie

Well put! (and you are welcome)

My fiance would definetly be called a violent offender, and he is considered public enemy number one over in the county where he was arrested and later railroaded in their good ole boys courthouse. He was on the top ten most wanted fugitives in our state too, if you met him you all would love him to pieces and think he was the sweetest guy in the world. His co-defendant confessed to the shooting of the man in the incident they were involved in but later cut a deal and said my fiance was the triggerman, the fact he had no evidence of gun powder on his hands was said to be inadmissable by his judge too. don't let me get started on the injustice of his trial, but yeah he is considered violent, they tried to give him the death penalty too. He got life

Yep, too violent. I asked him once if people thought of him as "a scary guy". He laughed - said nobody can even believe he is in there. He was 16, and had what he calls a temper problem. I'm sure drugs and beer didn't help that.

Under the armor he keeps his heart hidden under is a very very sweet, soft-spoken man. I get glimpses, he can't take that armor all the way off, not in there. I think that's why he goes through tough times and his letters get impersonal (or currently-nonexistent), then suddenly they will be all sentimental again :) As for the crime: as many of you have said, wrong place, wrong time, wrong CROWD...

I too have a "VO". Yes, he does have a bad temper, but he has NEVER gotten out of hand around our girls and I! When you are pushed until you're gonna burst, it's going to happen every time.

my boyfriend is considered a violent offender as well. I wont lie at one point he was very violent, but he is not now. It isnt like hes in remission or anything hes just a different person when he is doing drugs. I know he would never hurt me or anyone that meant anything to us or is innocent, but part of my attraction to him is the fact that when a violent situation is at hand that we will be the ones who are safe in the end. he would never create this situation for us, but he could defend me if necessary. Its just a matter of life experience really....

My man is one of them... Convicted of murder... Things happen that you can't take back, but he's always going to be the love of my life!!!

My son is considered a VO too. Assault with a deadly weapon (a bat), producing great bodily injury ( a few bruises and 2 small cuts). The bruises were from my son and the cuts were from his friend. My son was defending is little brother from a deranged man with an ax, who attacked my youngest son. The police refused to take a report against the man and he is free. My son is serving a 5 year sentence. Two years for the assault w/deadly weapon and 3 yrs for the great bodily injury. We are appealing it at this time. This was my sons first offense and he was suppose to be leaving for the Army the day after this incident happened. My sons friend was with him and participated as well, he was sentenced to 1 yr county and served 7 1/2 months. My son would do anything to protect me and his brothers and in fact felt that it was his duty since I am a single mom. ( I am so sorry that he felt that way) I wish that he would have called the police but at 19 years old I can't say that I don't understand why he did what he did. He did not go over there to hit the man, he had the bat for protection from the ax. The man was not seriously injured. He had no internal injuries, no broken bones, no life threatening or disabling injuries. In the medical report it showed that the man was under the influence of drugs and alcohol. I love my son with all my heart and pray for his release. Take Care and God Bless!
-Lisa

LisaL,
I pray that your son's appeal brings justice. It is a shame that he would be charged with assault when the man had an ax. I just don't get it but there are a lot of things in the system that don't make sense.

ooohhh me too katie, i love a "vo" even though he isn't "violent" dumb maybe but not violent...lol. matts was similar, agg assualt with a deadly weapon. sigh....what am i going to do with that boy :o

My man is a violent offender :) Not that I'm happy about that, but I love him regardless...

Jan7EL,
Thanks for the support and prayers! I don't know how I would have survived without this site. Again thank you. Take Care and God Bless!

-Lisa

Mine got a DUI w/ a GBI (great bodily injury) upgrade which made him a violent offender which I don't understand! With GBI you can show intent by saying "you drink, you drive, you intend to hurt someone!"

My baby is a Vo, another incident of the wrong place, with the wrong people at the wrong time. He is in for first degree burglary, yet he didn't force entry, didn't have a weapon, didn't take anything! All he did was go and see what was taking his friend so long. He got 12 years on his first offense. But I know he would never hurt a fly. He is sweet as candy!

my man was convicted of murder / attempted murder intent to kill or injure.... i wasnt in his life at the time .

Yes, Larry has had many episodes of battery and always when he's drunk. He's been given 2 1/2 years and comes home November 9th "THIS YEAR" (SO glad to finally be able to say that!) When he's sober (which he's vowed to stay when he comes home) he's as calm as reasonable as anyone.
Larry is at Lawtey CI in Florida.
I can't wait to have him back in my arms!
Write me back if you want..

Carol Ann

HO5 is considered a "habitual offender" within the DOC system.... yes, I'm deeply in love with a labeled man... a violent offender who now has his "papers" in the Supreme Court for illegal sentencing.... 19 years later... there IS an end to this madness!!

My baby is is on a murder 2 charge, for driving drunk and having a wreck in which a woman died. The woman was in the back of a police car going to jail when he hit the police car. She hit the divider screen and she died from the head injuries. Any other drunk driving death that I've ever heard of has been manslaughter, but because his case involved a police car, he got the harshest penalty-murder 2. No, I am not trying to excuse what he did, neither is he, but he did not deliberately decide to take someones life, he made a very bad mistake and chose to drive home intoxicated. What I would like everyone to remember is how many times have we all made mistakes and drove after having a little too much to drink. Fortunately it doesnt always end up with a death, but it could.

Jason is considered a violent offender although i disagree. He is in for armed robbery. Him n his jackass so called friend got an idea one nite n well lets just say that cost him 39yrs of this life.:( This was his first offense n no one was harmed. I agree that yeah he should be punished for his crime but 39yrs??? no one was hurt n the mastermind of the plan only got 10 for diming my hunny out.:angry: I love my man but he is not known for his brains. b4 this, he never had a violent bone in his body n still to this day, 6 yrs being incarcerated he still doesnt. I pray he can get back into court this year and have his time reduced!

My husband is a VO because he got charged with Assault with Great Bodily Injury for defending himself in a bar fight. We are appealing this sentence but I am not sure anything will come of it. They gave him 6 years at 85%.

My baby is a sweetie and would never hurt a fly. He pretends he is some tough guy in prison and snarls at people but I just look at him and say knock it off you dork and of course he does.

So unfortunately I am married to a violent offender

I guess you can say that my husband is a violent , he was covicted of murder

My man is a VO armed robbery, but I love him regardless!!

My husband is a tru thug. He's reformed. I am so proud of him. He is the kindest, most loving man, he treats me 1,000% better than any other guys I've been with. I can count the number of times he has rasied his voice to me, he has never called me a mean name and has never frightened me. I think one reason I fell so much in love with him was because how society saw him compared to the person he really is.
But, he has a reputation. No one messes with him. Ever. Unless they want trouble.

John is considered a VO because when they got raided they also found guns so they consider him a VO dumb I swear but that's how thing's go I guess he has a bad temper but not anything to harm anothers life

Wow...I have really enjoyed reading everyone's responses...
Even though our men are considered Violent Offenders, we know in our hearts that they are good hearted human beings.....
Just wanted to say that I love my Violent Offender!
Hope you all are having a great night
~Katie

My husband is considered as violent offender. Hanging with people he considered his "friends". Attempted murder charge...but in my eyes it was self defense because he was shit at. Either way no one was hurt. Sentence 9-18 yrs...time served so far, 11 yrs. Goes to the parole board in July.

My grandson is considered a VO. At 17 he was with an adult that robbed a store and the adult had a gun. my grandson was outside (lokout) he was high on the adults meds and they went to two different places. He got 20 yrs. The adult got 21. My grandson never had the gun, and never in the buildings. yes he needed time but this is damn rediculous.
so he is labeled a VO

My husband at the "tender" age of 42, was in a car accident and the other guy died. They were never able to prove it was Tony's fault, but since he had beer in his system (.08 - "legal" limit is .10) and prescription valium from the night before, he was considered reckless. This is a man who for 42 years, followed the letter of the law, NEVER being in trouble before, not so much as a speeding ticket, married 21 years, three kids, total provider for us, is now considered a violent offender and was sentenced to 7 years 85% in a medium security prison two hours away. Oh yeah, soiety is sooooo much safer now!
Suzanne

My Husband was charged with agg. robbery at the age of 18(5yrs ago),, :(

My love is i guess you could a violent offender but i dont see him that way at all never have and never will

My son's father is labled as a V.O. and he wasnt even there...It was a conspiracy charge...but they placed him at the scene. With the weapon he didnt hold and made him a V.O. Isnt that some SH*@ !!!

my baby is a VO. before he met me, he served 9yrs for Armed Robbery, he was 18 at the time. he is the most sweetest person i know and hasnt been violent towards me at all! i never saw him as that kind of person, and i would never be afraid of him.

Yes my hunny is where he is because of a violent offense. He liked to fight...i swear since he was in third grade, and NOT ONE PERSON ever said "maybe this kid has some issues that he needs help with". I guess when your poor and amongst a dozen other kids, your labeled as a trouble maker instead of a troubled kid. Anyways...this is his first time ever in prison, but he got such a huge sentence, I know he won't go back. My hunny is made for the streets! So five years gone and two to go...we're almost there!

Mine is in now for a dv assault (bit my hand). When he was moved to yakima they placed him on the 4th floor with other violent offenders, he says it is their version of max security. He is there because "over 20 years ago" he was convicted on a murder 2 when he was 17. He did his time, now let it go. Since he bit me they consider his mouth a weapon & him a vo. :(

My guy was young and stupid he was 16 when convicted from lack any parents in his life not having an structure in his life he was able to do whatever he wanted and started to hang with the wrong people and is now and forever will be known as a v/o but he is the sweetest, caring, lovnig, passionate MAN I have ever known.

I got one of those. battery to a police officer and attempt to disarm a peace officer is what we fighting now. in this case, HE IS innocent. there is no evidence to corroborate the BS police report. it's all good tho. everything happens for a reason.

When Adam was 19 yrs old he got into a fight with a guy. He was charged with "assault w/ deadly weapon (his foot), producing great bodily injury".
Yes, now he is considered a Violent Offender.
Once upon a time he was a boy who got into lots of fights, but by the time I'd met him, two years after this happened, he'd grown up and learned his lessons and had become the sweetest guy ever... so much so in fact, that I fell in love with him and married him. My friends and I just could not believe he had this on-going case for a violent offense...it just seemed so "not him" :eek:
And yet, here we are :confused:

I guess it just goes to show that people grow up and people do change :thumbsup:

Too bad he's gotta face 7-9 yrs in prison now that he's already reformed himself :cool:

p.s. Heck no I'm not afraid of my baby ~ he's a big baby faced angel to me:p

Hi, my son is a violent offeder the victim got stabbed 17 times. He was two other guys they all went down 7yrs (85%) this was my sons first time in juvenile hall. He was 17 and was traid as an adult he just got transfered to Corcoran. He told me when he was in juvenile hall "mom they look at me and treat me like I'm a murder" it broke my heart because he isn't a VO he's my baby :( . . .

My baby is also a VO. (Armed bank robbery), but with me he's as sweet as sweet can be.

My man was convicted of two counts ACA, but prison has made him more of a V.O than he used to be. He can't stay out of the hole! :(

My man is considered a violent offender...although he was in the wrong place at the wrong time with people he thought were his friends..he was charged with manslaughter and got 20 yrs...hes got 9yrs left...I don't consider him violent at all...he is a sweet and caring person...

I try not to think about what he did. I still can't believe he did it, but I only knew him after he was behind the wall. He's never shown a bit of anger, but letters don't normally facilitate that. I don't know, has it ever worried anyone when their person is close to getting out?

My, Bobby, is considered a "Violent Offender" because of the extent of his felonious assault charge....I wouldnt consider him violent!!! Sweet as can be...But he got in a fight and the guy did get his but kicked...

My man is considered a VO, but I don't look at him that way. Yes, he had PART in what they said he did, but everything was put on him and the other 2 dudes got a deal and now they are walkin the streets. He wasn't tryin to be no snitch and it got him 30 years.

Please remember that the Feds count me as a violent offender based ONLY on the quanity of drugs I had; I was unarmed and had never been armed. It was my first, last, and only arrest, but I was violent to them none the less.

My hb is considered violent, assault and battery on a sherriff's deputy he did 2 yrs for a while back. But I have never posted in there cuz that is not what he's in for now. It did however get him sent to USP Leavenworth. :(

My hunny is considered a VO, he got 25 for a broken nose. He is the sweetest guy I've ever met in my life

My husband is a vo charge 2nd degree murder he was only 14 though we were teenage sweet hearts he has been locked for 15 years we have been togther all this time and married for three years come july 28th. He is such a softie with me though he would never harm me in any form or fashon.

My daughter's father is considered a violent offender. He's in for aggravated robbery. I won't dispute that what he did was violent and wrong, but they were isolated incidents resulting from too many drugs and bad influences. What bothers me, though, is that when these "violent offenders" are released, the label sticks and it makes it really hard for them to move on with their life and put their mistake behind them. It saddens me to know that when state legislatures do start to consider prison reforms in response to prison overcrowding, sentence reductions for violent offenders are the last options they would consider. :(

Almost a year to the day, June 23, 2004 my husband lost it and well did a pretty good number on me, this was before I even knew about what was going on with my daughters.

My husband joined the P.A.R.S program and only spent one night in a holding cell and was granted bail.

Now with the 18 charges against him and the fact that less then a year ago he assaulted me he is having a hard time getting bail. Actually I have found out that he has been charged backwards. Usually it's Sex Assault charges first then followed by domestic violence that most people commit due to very ill people.

Do I feel safe around him? Yes because of the anger management course that he took, he has learned to control his anger.



Cheers,



Lynne

My husband, is a V/O, this guy jumped on him first, pulled my husbands hair and would not let go, my husband hit him a few times, the guy was drunk and on oxicotin, we couldn't afford an attorny, so he got 2 years in prision, and was charged with agg. assult, causing great bodily injury My huband is not a violant person, as far as I know he was protecting himself, so now I sit her with 3 boys, 16,13, and 2 trying to raise them by myself, and keep a roof over their heads.

My man is considered a violent offender and also a lifer with possible parole. He will tell you that he is guilty and takes responsiblity for his actions but he got sentences that would be for a murderer. I didn't meet him until after he was incarcerated but it is hard for me to imagine him some other way than his loving, humble, sensitive self. Drug additiction and alcohol played a big part in his crimes (armed robbery). He probably won't be released in my life time but I will still enjoy his love and give him mine for as long he chooses. Loving him has made my life brighter and I know my love helps him tolerate the chaos he lives with every day.

my husband has a drug charge from 1996 that he did his time for...he ended up violating parole and is in one of the worst prisons in New York for it ??????????? parole violator.......

My boo, Nathan is considered a violent offender :( Bank Robberies. By the way do any of you know hoe this will effect employment options after his release date???

My boyfriend is in for aggravated murder. serving 20-life, in an ohio prison.

My hubby is a violent offender serving life for the first degree murder of two people in a drug deal that went bad after a break-in. He was 15 at the time. Hope that answers your question. Shiningdrum

My husband is considered a VO, but yet I've never met a more loving and tender man in my life. Today marks the 4th yr "anniversary" of the first time our eyes met...and he actually remembered!! We've been married 3 yrs!:heart: :love:

Charlie is considered a VO, even though he didn't actually do the crime he was there. I think it;s so messed up and his new attorney is helping out a ton! :D Anyway, Charlie and this guy Chuck were at a bar where Chuck started a fight with a guy over a pool game! :rolleyes: There was a witness that said in court that when the argument started Charlie went out to the car, there he passed out. He didn't wake up until hours later to find himself out on a country road where Chuck had murdered the guy from the bar. Chuck threatened Charlie then Chuck fled to New York, Charlie went to the police. But since he was there he was charged as well, the arguement of the state is he didn't try to stop him :shake:, How could he have stopped it when he was out cold! It was proven he was directed involved. Anyway, I get so heated over this! :angry: I love my VO too! Nothing I wouldn't do for him!

My husband is considered a violent offender. :rolleyes:

mine's a vo but he's such a sweet person..if you knew him you wouldn't think he 's a violent person..such a cuddly bear !!! i love him to death !

my man is a VO charged w/ 2nd degree murder.....yet is the most sweet, loving, gentle man...

My boyfriend committed a 1st degree burglary (of a residence, no one was home at the time) and for that he got an 8 year sentence and the label of "violent offender".

My husband did not commit the heinous murder he is accused of,to be a DR inmate. But, according to the courts he was violent enough to aggrivate his case to make it a capital crime. There were alot of felony assaults, but only a one actually got him any time. The others were dropped. He was not anyone I would have wanted to rip off in a deal 15 years ago, but my violent offender is my big Lakota Teddy, now.

mine oh i fell in love when i was 13 yrs old, he was older wouldn't touch me. but was alway nice to me. funyhow age catches up. now married. i love him to death

My Husband Is Considered A Violent Offender. But He Has The Biggest Heart In The World. His Smile Can Brighten Up The Entire Room. He Will Give You The Shoes Off His Feet If He Had To. And This Is What They Call A Violent Offender Who They Sentence To Over 35 Years.

*whew* this is gonna be long....

my df was 13 yrs old when he and 3 other boys (16, 17) were tried for attempted murder. DF was raised by his grandma (who lived next door to me) until she died when he was 11. DF went back to live with his crack addicted prostitute mother who would perform tricks in the back seat of the car while he was in the front. DF and his two friends were simply trying to steal a pizza. They were hungry and were going to take it from the delivery guy. The pizza guy fought back and the three boys battered him very very badly. They almost killed the pizza guy. All 3 boys were tried as adults and sentenced to 25 yrs. DF is now 28 and there is no way that he is the same little kid who beat up that pizza guy. DF has been raised by the prison system and has maintained good behavior since being moved into the adult prison system. In the juvenile detention centers he got into a lot of fights so that definitely set him back. I will never make excuses for what he did but do I think he is a VO? No, he was simply a kid who was trying to survive the only way he knew how.

First of all, I just want to thank all of you for sharing these tear-jerker stories.



I’m madly in love with a “VO”. My heathen, as I like to call him, was 15 when he committed his crimes. He came from a broken home and lacked parental support. A “friend” of the family had sexually abused him as a young child, which his parents chose to ignore. His parents had been divorced by the time he was 3, both of them have kidnapped him from one another taking him across the world into foreign countries (he was any army brat). He developed severe anger management issues into his teenage years. Living briefly in Colorado, he fell into the wrong crowd. He got into a fight with a man, beat him to a pulp, shot him in the head (thank God the guy lived). Well, the state of Colorado charged him with 10+ felonies including attempted murder, aggravated assault, and assault with a deadly weapon, etc. At this time there was a new DA was campaigning for “tough on juvenile crime”. My heathen was screwed. They even decided to tag a burglary charge on him (a crime he didn’t commit). He did get what he deserved, but has changed his life around and is a better man today for it.



He served 5+ years, was let out on his 21st birthday. He was also able to receive an education at Denver University. He even served as a corrections officer at the same prison where he served.



I met him 10 years later. He is one of the kindest, big-hearted people have ever met. He is wonderful with my family; my two year old niece absolutely adores and loves him. He is so gentle, loving, and affectionate with me to no end. He respects me and everyone he comes into contact with. He is well mannered, intelligent, personable, and educated. Not to mention he is absolutely handsome. I love him completely and hoping to be his Mrs one day.

My fiance is a VO. He was 17, just shy of 18(2 weeks). Wrong people, wrong time and sentenced to 28 years and 4 months. He has served 11.

This thread has been so heart breaking. I really admire everyone for speaking up. PTO is awesome. I learn more every day....mainly the injustices in the "system"

The law calls him a VO, I call him the love of my life. Never would I ever be afraid of him. He is so kind and caring and the best thing that could have ever happened to me. He was already in when I met him....and I am still not afraid of him. I look forward to the day we become husband and wife....in my heart I am his wife and he is my husband....And boy howdy do I love him!!!!

:eek: Violent?? My husband!?? Who would label him in such a way!! LMAO Just Kidding yeah they call him a VO..not only that but "habitual". Whatever. He's a wonderful guy... with a BIG heart and a good soul. All he ever wanted was to make it in the free world and start a family. Well i wonder what went wrong :confused: . Who knows. He got a manslaughter 2 charge for his second offense while doing 5 years paper.. but before that he had assault with a deadly weapon, UUMV, and robbery with a firearm. This older man was hitting on my husbands younger MALE friend at the time (This was 15 years ago) and my husband (being a smart-ass teenage boy) carried a gun everywhere :cool: (How cool huh) ::note the sarcasim::
So him and his other little buddy tried to kick the old man out of his car and just take off... but the old man put up a fight and tried to take Lee's gun and it went off and got him in the leg. The most recent one.. well i guess everyone says "It was an accident" but i know this one was... he has a beautiful daughter that he wouldn't have left for the world!!

:heart: Ronnie is the love of my life. He was involved in an armed robbery. He was there and he did attempt the crime , but he had been up for 21 days on meth and bothced the whole thing and he was arrested; he was the only one who was hurt
by the police department. Since he had been convicted on drug charges in another state he had afterformers which greatly enhanced his sentence. Yes, I believe him and yes he is a completely different man from the man I first met 10 years ago. Together we are an unbeatable team and and together we will finish his time and build a life together. I am not the least bit afraid that he will hurt me or anyone else, but I fear everyday that he might not be able to handle the pressure of being in the free world. We practice the philosophy of one day at a time and today is all we have. Good luck and happines to all of us. Ronnies Girl:)

Marc was charged with murder and plead down to Assault with a Deadly weapon with intent to kill.....major BS...but I suppose they consider him a violent offender....I am just curious to see how many of us are in love with such "violent creatures!!!" LOL...I love my VO!
~Katie

Yeah they calling ma man a vialent future thrat for society but it´s all ****. He´s kinda big wild guy but he ain´t no vialent person, I know him since we was kidz.Alu i éi le ufa, he´s my to´alua and I know how he is. **** system the can olu e i le polo a lou tama..all of um:angry:

I got a call that my bf went to jail due to a bar fight. He got charged with a felony and is now in Prison. His prior was beating up his aunts bf, because he sexually molested his niece. Well this bar fight happened when he and i separated and he was dating another fem. She was drunk and he had to leave from work to pick her up. SHe started arguing and hitting him so he got her in a head lock. Her friends got wind of everything and told the police that he was beating on her. I found out that he got into a fist fight with two of her guy friends. I have been with him for 2 years and havent seen any form of violence with him. He's a teddy bear. Big Lug!!!!!!!:p

I am in love with a violent offender. He is my everything. He is charged with shooting w/intent. He made a choice it was either his life or there's. He was put in a bad position and had been out of trouble for years when this incident occurred..I know that he would never hurt me in anyway..He is gentle and loving..And he most definately regrets what he did..My question is this HOW HARD WILL IT BE FOR US WHEN HE IS FREE? PEOPLE AUTOMATICALLY JUDGE AND THEY WILL ALWAYS USE IT AGAINST HIM ESPECIALLY SINCE HE HAS TO REGISTER AS A VIOLENT OFFENDER..SO WHAT ARE YOUR VIEWS ON THIS???

It has been my experience that Marc is judged a lot by his charges...people see violent crimes on his record and assume that he is a violent person. I believe that we may struggle with that our entire lives, but what I always remind myself is that I know the truth, and even though it will take some time, others will see past the charges and see the true person he is...if they can't get past the charges, they are not worthy of his friendship or company anyway....Just my thoughts on it!
~katie

My brother in law is serving 6 years for corporal punishment of a co-habitant - violent offense at 85% - 2 strikes

ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

My man is a VO so they say he's doing LWOP for first degree murder but they got him all twisted he's the nicest lovable sweetest man in the world. Watch one day he'll beat his appeal. One day

I am very much in love with my violent offender. Theres a pending case their trying to put off on him, the brutal death of a close friend. Not easy to deal with. I know he didnt do it. I met Rich when he was 17 & I was 28, he was my paper boy. We kissed for the first time in January, that was 8yrs ago we met. My 2 daughters chose him as their daddy. We will stand beside him no matter what. Society has gotten so twisted, they dont see that stero typing can ruin a person. I hope when hes released he'll see our love is true, and realize , whats hes been through can be forgiven and he has a family that adore him!

Did you get married in prison? How did you post hes remain time to your post like that?

Did you get married in prison? How did you post hes remain time to your post like that?


Hi...I am sending you a PM to answer your questions ;)
~Katie

My finace was 17 when he was tried and convicted as an adult for agg.murder. He is serving 20-life for a crime that he didn't commit. He has so far served 12yrs. I have known him for 18yrs, and he is a very warm, kind person. If he wouldn't have maintained his innocence and took the plea bargain I think he would be out now! He said that he didn't take the plea because he didn't do it! He trusted that the truth would set him free! He has his first parole hearing in 2007. I pray the parole board will do the right thing and release him!The people that really did the crime have offered to testify for him if it can ever get back to court...but I don't think that is very likely. They are inmates also. I pray for him every day. He's lost half of his life for something he didn't do. The night of the crime he was at his sister's house, but the detectives didn't belive that, they said that because she is family that she was just lying for him. He was convicted as an accomplice, not a principle offender. How does one show remorse at a parole hearing for something they didn't have any part of?? Where is the justice? There are so many innocent human beings locked-up and treated less than human..while there are many real criminals out on the streets.

All of your stories have put a better insight on my VO. We have know each other for the last 15years and up until the time we were 17 he was the sweetest kindest man I had ever met but, shortly there after he became very involved with gangs and heroine. He says he was just "young and dumb" but tell this day I will vouch and say that he was/is the dearest sweetest man I know. With the road he took it landed him in prison for 17 years for attempt of murder in the 2nd degree. It drives me crazy to know that our judicial system is punishing these "kids" with no remorse. Their lives will never be the same. I look forward to every visit, phone call and letter that I get from him. He is by far my "Prince Charming". Violent Offender is what he was labeled but what he is, is the love of my life.

I am with a vo , mine was convicted of murder when he was only 16, he's 28 now. he got 40 do 20. so it's been along road and still some to go. but he's my soulmate and i love him....:p

Phil is considered a V.O and a repeat offender...but he has a heart of gold and only does things that he believes are right even if others dont.

chris was first considered a violent offender because of resisting arrest and assaulting the police while they were trying to arrest him. he also got into a gang related fight and was charged with weapons possession (a bat i believe). he's considered a violent offender, i love him to death, however, if the charges were any more serious than fighting the police and getting into group fights (some were gang related, some were not)...i am not sure if i would have gotten into a relationship with him. he was also caught doing an insurance job on an abandoned gasoline station, conspiring to do an insurance job on an old apartment building (they tapped his family member...go figure), and he was caught in credit card fraud. for these charges, he's also considered a felon and arsonist. one of the the only things he hasn't been accused of is a sexual crime. one of his saving graces was that 10 of his arrests were before the age of 23, and about 8-10 of the charges on his jacket were caught inside of the prison (he's gang affiliated, and they had plenty of fights in jail), so i am able to accept him and love him unconditionally. this last arrest happened at age 32...and it's for the only crime he did not commit, eluding the police. this time the system caught him simply because they like the fact that he's a money maker for them. so by the age of 23, he was already labeled a felon/violent offender, arsonist, and gang member. on his jacket he is also marked as multi-lingual and a martial arts expert...so he's especially "watched". i know in my heart i'm able to love and be with him because none of his crimes were heinously violent, nor was anyone ever seriously wounded (hospitalized) or killed. and i'm proud of that fact. it could have been worse, and many times, he was fighting for his life. most of his offenses were done for money, he did insurance jobs, i believe the most expensive one topping 18,000.00, and he was involved in bankcard/check/credit card fraud. the rest were for fighting the police, being accused of fighting the police, or being caught in a fight, either in jail or on the streets. there are certain limits that i can't go beyond...and i'm thankful that he doesn't step over my boundaries, because he is one beautiful person, inside and out.

and go figure...he's gotten the most time (respectively) for the one crime he didn't commit. that's why we're fighting this either until we get time lowered to something more reasonable or we max out. ;)

WHAT???? You are with a man charged with murder, who worked it down to assault with a deadly weapon??!! That means he is saying he was carrying the weapon. Are you that comfortable with that?? You call it BS, but he did what he did, and you don't seem affected by the fact that he did not deny carrying the weapon in the scenario in which he was charged. You're ok with this?????

Hi I am new to this whole PTO and I wish I would have found it months ago. I met my fiancee when I was at work, he told his friend thats my future wife watch his friend just laughed! anyway, when I met him he was bald (No offense to anyone) and he looked about 15 yrs old I was 32, his friend (girl) came over to me and said my friend wants to meet you I went over and said Hi, we talked for a minute and I asked him how old he was he was 25. I politely said nice to meet you and walked away, long story short haha he came back about 3 months later and the rest is history, when I met him he was in the process of going to court for Domestic Violence (2nd offense) he didn't tell me until a while after we started dating, anyway, he told me the story him and his x gf lived together and she told him she was preg. and then started staying out all night while he was watching her son, one night she came home stoned and drunk and he had been drinking also and it started she told him she was going to get "rid" of the bb no matter what and any way she wanted to, so they started fighting and her son was there, he tried to run out of the house and my bf stopped him, she ran out and saw a police officer they came and got him and charged him with DV, kidnapping (because he kept the kid IN the house- he was 6) and child abuse and neglect becauise her son was in the house. she didn't get anything and they both hit, he got 3 yrs probation, he was almost DONE with it and decided it would be a good idea to go out drinking and driving DUMB!! they tried to pull him over and he got scared and took off, when it finally ended he jumped out of the car laid on the ground w/ hands up and they hand cuffed him and picked him up, they asked him why he ran he said he wante dto get home to see his NEW baby (9mths) one of the cops started laughing and said yea well now you arent gonna and I think I will go see your wife is she HOT?? so he was upset ok mad, he told the cop to shut up and 5 cops jumped on him and beat his A** then charged him w/ assault on a police officer. Amazing how this system works!!! anyway he got 1 to 4 for attempted failure to stop at the request of Police. he got DUI,reckless driving,assault on PO, because of his past Violence he got denied Parole in July, so now we wait to see in June what will happen, he has a long record and he takes responsibility for what he has done, but I don't understand how they can just charge you with whatever they want just to see what will stick and what they can negotiate with??? I think if you are a women that is going to beat up on a guy and then get upset and call the police when he does it back, its not fair we (women) always want to be treated equal but not when it doesn't benefit us. Just my thought, I am sure I will hear an ear full for that :) anyway, just wanted to vent and tell you I have never seen the Violent side of him, I think it also depends on the person they ("violent one") are with, if there isn't a reason for it, it won't happen, Love can be scary but with the right person its a blessing!!! Thanks for listening

let me clear up a couple things, he was with me when he got the probation, and the 9 month old is ours. Also my whole family is in law enforcement, so Christmas is really fun--- a house full of cops and my "bad guy" amazingly enough they love him and they support my decision to wait for him, but I cant talk to them about him because I get the "YOU MADE THAT CHOICE LECTURE"

I could definatley relate "theonlyoneforme "Family in law enforcement and all." Only they can't stand my man. My baby is guilty of attempted murder and he does not deny it. He also has had a terrible upbringing and I wish I could change the past for him. He is angry and I know he deserves to be in prison for the next decade or more, and maybe that won't change him. But he is my sons father and this angry man is capable of love as well as deserving of it. I know him on a level book writers and movie producers can only dream of knowing a violent offender. Not only the Bad but the Good,Sad,loving Man. The man that doesn't cry or show affection unless he's in my arms. By the way I work with inmates everyday and I treat each one with respect. Becouse each one is a child of God. No matter what the crime. You would be amazed some of the awful inhumane ways these men and women went through childhood. Some of their parents ought to being doing their time. While they get some kind of treatment.

My Old man is considered a violent offender with armed robberies hostage situations the works. Yet to our children and me he is the most sensative, caring, loving, gentle man I have come across. How could I not love him. The only scary aspect is that society may some day say he can never come come home.:cry: Now that would be a crime! I Don't know if I could survive that blow. I pray that day never comes.:shake:

Yep, mine is definately considered a VO, but i don't judge anyone by the same BS rules that our criminal system does-it's all about the person, or it should be anyways. Besides, i know being with him means i'll always be safe, i love my "thug"! lol!

I have a best friend who has been out only 10 months after a 8 year sentence; and my man who is still in serving the last 8 months of his 12 year term. Both of them are considered VO. The one on parole now is considered a extreme high risk parolee because he has 2 strikes on violent offenses. (CA) Both of them are teddy bears and neither has ever given me cause to concern! In fact if Im mad they're more wary of me than I am of them! *haha* Ive seen my friend lose his temper and even then I can put him in his place and then I might be labeled a VO too! Violent Offenses in most cases are individual events that certainly do not define the person. Everyone has the potential to be dubbed Violent! But I love both of my VO's just the same!!

My hubby was charged with and found guilty of 2 counts of aggravated murder. He could have been executed but the jury voted 7 to 5 for life without the possibility of parole. I nearly fainted when I heard that news that it was so close.
I've been thru it all with my man, I've had death threats against me for staying with my guy, ppl vandelizing my car, half of my reletives won't speak to me and some of them will even leave the room when I enter! then we have the "oh, don't leave your purse next to her crowd"...that's almost laughable because I'd rather cut off my own arm than steal from anyone!!!
Despite all of what I've gone thru i would do it all over again with my guy....yeah sure i'd rather none of this happened, I'd liked to have lived a normal life, but if a normal life means living it without my hubby, forget it!! As my siggy says, I'd rather live in his world than live without him in mine!

penwife

...Violent Offenses in most cases are individual events that certainly do not define the person. Everyone has the potential to be dubbed Violent! ...

That describes R.'s crime in a nutshell -- and from reading "you guys's" posts probably your's, too.

Hell, it wasn't like he went out and committed the crime because he was bored and nothin' good on TV. If THAT was the provocation, well, yes, he could be considered a "violent offender."

In answer to the thread, yes, he's considered a VO.

iM IN LOVE WITH A VIOLENT FELONY OFFENDER TOO!hE'S BEING CHARGED WITH 4 COUNTS OF ROBBERY IN DA FIRST!i JUST HAPPENED TO BE THE DRIVER OF THE CAR AND THEY CHARGED ME WITH THE SAME CHARGES AS HIM!iM NOW CONSIDERED A VIOLENT OFFENDER i ONLY DROVE!

My hubby steve is most certainly considered a VO....But what sucks is he is charged with attempted murder, but he did it out of self defense!!! I watched him be torn right out of my own arms, and now the father of my son has waited almost a year to just find out whether he will be charged or not! Life sucks without him, he can be a grouch but I remember sunday school when i was littel and it said nothing about GOD creating prisons. I was going to school for law, now i hate the law...how could you just tear someones life apart so quickly!!!

My Fiancee Is A Violent Offender And Is Serving 20 Years For The Murder Of Someone Who Repeatedly Robbed Him. Get This , My Boo Boo Is 5'7 And The Guy Was 6'4. Am I Condoning What He Did , No But I Think That When Your Faced With Certain Choices Where Your Back Is Against The Wall, Shouldn't That Be Taken Into Consideration? We Have A 2 Yr Old Who Will Only Know His Dad Through Visits And Letters. That's A Punishment In Itself.

Brat, welcome to PTO.
You'll find a ton of women here in your same position.

my hubby to be is considered a VO and he was in a situation of self defense, he was at the yound age of only 3 months past his 17th birthday, :( i miss him soo, much i feel, alone :(, for the next 7 1/2 at least at most 2020 :( :( :(

Sarah Moats
Robs_angel

Sarah! Wow he was so young......I hope that PTO can help you with some of the lonliness....we are here for you!

penwife

i'm loving my baby who is locked up for 2 cts armed robbery and was sentenced 30. sad, but i love him deeply

My friend is considered a Violent offender.. but i love him anyways.. no kidding there!

My fiance is considered a violent offender too. When the cops came to our house to arrest him they talked about how violent he was and asked me how I could let my child be around a such a violent man and BLAH BLAH BLAH. But he is the kindest man I have ever known. We've dated on and off since I was 16, so for 6 years now. And when he was released last year we got back together and have been together since. He got arrested again in may and sentenced to three years :(

My best friend's boyfriend is a violent offender. We both knew him before, so it's easier on us...we can remember the good times. He has served 1 year of a 9 year stretch so far.

Welcome to PTO, BNDMAMMA!

well my man is considered one as well sad but true he committed many burglaries and also got a kidnapping charge but no the kidnapping charge was because he got in to a fight with someone and put em in the trunk of his caddy and he did some other stuff but is list is alot to type but i see this as people make mistakes and he sure did but i will love him forever and ever no matter what :)

is considered a violent offender. He moved out of the house just before his 18th birthday to live on the streets in Portland, Oregon, against all of my objections. I knew that if I reported him as a runaway no one would go out and look for him, if they did run across him they would just return him home and he would run away again, anyway.
While he was on the street he joined a street family. The street "father" had just finished serving an 11 year sentence for three murders he committed at the age of fifteen. This man told the kids that he had been down for murder, but explained that he had murdered someone who raped his sister. This was not the truth, but the kids were completely duped that he was a good guy looking to help them get on their feet.
The culmination of the story is that he ordered the beating and death of another female family member. The girl was beaten by the girls in the gang, then my son and two others took her to another location where she was beaten again, stabbed, and then her body was doused in lighter fluid and lit on fire. My son was considered to be the most culpable person in the murder other than the family father.
I found out about the incident first when the police were looking for him on the local news. He was missing for three months...this has been the worst thing that I have ever had to live through in my life. I look at my son and I see my son, not a monster. I see this intelligent, talented, funny kid and I can't reconcile the two. I think the toughest part was the sentencing, the family of the victim was obviously very angry and said a ton of hurtful things. I was glad that my son pled guilty, and he broke down crying, apologizing to the family. I think its doubly difficult because I was a a law enforcement officer. I spent my whole life trying to help people, and then my own son makes such a tragic choice. Now I spend every day trying to figure out what I did wrong, what I could have done different, feeling responsible, being scared for my son, it has devastated my life. I really don't know how to move on with my own life. Its so hard, I love him and miss him very much. He is currently serving 40 years to life. He was 17 at the time of the murder, he's now 20.:(

Snowhite, that is a very sad story, and a heartbreak any mother could understand. It is a shame this man's influence was not taken into account. I wish you and your son the very best. We are here for you, you will get a lot of support and understanding here. Blessings, Catherine

well my baby is diffently consider a violent offender he stabbed someone six times, domestic violence case. but the person had him jumped that why this is his first time ever having any problems at all. he never been to jail but i am mad that he let his anger get the best of him and that he was drinking also was a bad combo expecially when you already have alot of pain that the person caused you by using you like adog .but it no excuse what he did was horrible and what so crazy that everyone how knows him cant bellieve that he in jail for this type of crime he is the most friendliest and mannerful and he never fights with people he has so many friends. it a shocked to everyone but what done is done. women isnt pressing charges and she wants to write a letter but of course the state is in charge now. so he is charged with assault in first degree class b felony which i know is probably 10-15 yrs everyone is like oh stop being so negative be optimistic but he did a horrible crime and he going to get the most time , i being nice by saying 10-15 he might get 20 because he cut someone else to get to his ex. i cant believe this is the same guy who got worried i was walking a few blocks in the rain.

My hubby is in for probation violation currently. But we met 6 years ago when he was serving his last 8 months of his original sentence. He was sentenced to 20 years for manslaughter and served 10.5 with good time and earning days working at the prisons. He is considered a violent offender. He was in a drug/alcohol induced rage when he got into a fight with the other person. The other person obviously ended up passing away. It is so sad what one night of bad decisions can do to a person. Or just being in the wrong place at the wrong time, both of which it seems to have happened with my hubby. He is the greatest guy too. He is so gentle with me and our two daughters who are 3.5 and 2. He is a fantastic father, son, brother, husband and person altogether. I don't think anyone that met him on the street could ever guess what he has done and where he has been. He had made a complete turnaround in his life. It is sad that he is back there again for BS. :angry: But he should be home soon. :D It is weird how this whole "justice system" works. I am in awe of what everyone has had to endure on this site and sad by all of the injustice going on. I hope everyone has a Happy Thanksgiving.

Kate

My baby is in for SWIK. He is the most sweet gentle man that I have ever met. All those who know him say that he doesn't have it in him to ever hurt anyone. He was hanging out with the wrong person at the wrong time at the wrong place and now he's paying the hard price of 25 years. And even though he will be gone for a while I will be by his side forever and always.

I considered a VO. He committed 2 very violent murders at the age of 18 and is now 40. He offers no excuses other than being a lost youth full of rage. It's hard for me to see him as that person. I met him about a year ago through my parents who were visiting him through a prison ministry program. They have visited him for over a decade. He's a sweet gentle man now because of his life changing decision to accept Christ into his life. I don't know that he will ever be released, but if he were I have often wondered how difficult it would be for us due to the perceptions of the outside world related to what he did. BUT I love him dearly and we will deal with that bridge when we come to it. For now, I'm just enjoying what he brings to my life and am hopeful that I bring something positive to his. He was so young . . . it just seems so unfair that we can't be together, but then it is what it is, right? :) I never would have thought that I would find myself in this type of relationship. There must be a purpose.

MK

MK! Welcome to PTO and to the VO forum. We are here to support you!!


penwife

MK, welcome to the forum, you will get a lot of support here.

My husband is considered a VO, although he has been in trouble with the law several times prior, he never was considered violent. I have been with him almost 20 years, married almost 17. He is the type of person who would give the shirt off his back to help someone. He was high on drugs and we just found out while in jail that he is bipolar. He was also on antidepressants, which shouldn't be taken without bipolar meds. He was on antidepressants because he was finally able to mourn the loss of our daughter. His mom says he was diagnosed as being bipolar when he was 16 yet when he refused to take the meds after feeling better, she never told anyone, or even him for that matter that he was bipolar and should continue taking his meds. He was told he was hyplogycemic, or something like that. Anyway sorry getting off the track here, just so pissed. But he was dared to do a car jacking, by his drug dealer, and stupid as he is , he does it. He didn't even need the car since he had his own car. But he took the car and drove it near my house and left it. Went back to get his car which was missing a plate so a cop tried to stop him, but being high on drugs he took off, so he basically took cops and state troopers on a 50 mile chase. When they finally stopped him they gave him a beating. He confessed to the car jacking, which they never knew about until he said he did. Anyway he received a flat 7 and has to do 6 of that. This has devasted my family. I just went through radiation and chemo for cervical cancer. I am now a single mom in a sense, and it hurts to have to try to raise our four children on our own, try to hold on to our house and support us with no help. I now have to work nights since I don't trust my little guys with anyone, and my older daughter stays home with my other three children. I feel this has effected her the most , since she has to stay home with them. Anyway I feel they didn't look at the whole picture, they just gave him prison time. I know he didn't deserve a slap on the wrist but I feel he would benefit more from a drug rehab and some mental help also. Prison is not going to take away the fact that he has an addiction problem and is bipolar. He was just granted an appeal and I a am hoping they can help him get the help he needs, so he can come home and be the type of person he really is .

Angel, thanks for sharing. It is amazing how many circumstances there are in why and how a crime is committed. The public, or the judge for that matter, never even hear about these things. I hope things go well for his appeal. And good luck to you and your children, I'm sure it is very hard for you all.

My son is labled a vo.From reading all the posts here it seems like alot of these guys had exstenuating curcumstances.My son left our home town with a construction crew that was working at our local mall. I worked in the mall office so I had met and dealt with these guys for several months. Some of the guys even dated close friends of lil'J. He decided to go with them when they left town thinking if he worked hard he could save up money and start a business of his own.For the first 3yrs everything was great, then in Jan.of 98 things went crazy!! He hadn't been able to come home for Christmas that yr (97) said the guy he worked for was having a rough time and hadn't been able to pay the crew for several weeks and everyone else had up and quit but he was stayin till he got his money. He was staying at the bosses house so he could(the boss) save money. I talked to him several times and he promised he was taking care of lil'J not to worry.Then the phone calls stopped and when we called the house the phone was disconected.The next call I got was from the sherrif's dept. in Mississippi (I'm in Wva) saying they were looking for my son in connection to a murder!Talk about flippin out!!!
Anyway there was another guy involved that his boss owed money to. He had threatened my son,told him if he didn't do what he wanted then he would come after me,his little brothers, and the girls! He kept after him for over 3 weeks and finally broke him down.He rented a car and picked up my son and his boss to"show them a site to build a new casino on" When his boss said he'd be right there, the other guy handed lil'j a knife and said he had to do it today. After he got in the car and they drove out to this cotton field he told my son do it do it know and he tried to slice his throat. Boss man was able to scream and get out of the car and try to run then the other guy told lil'j go finish it or your next then I'll make your mom what me do your family then I'll do her. So he got out and finished the job. They got back in the car and drove to another hotel and he checked them in under another name. He went to a store and bought bandages cause lil'j's hand was cut.and clothes for them both to change into. The other guy then went out and got food for them but Lil'j said he couldn't eat. They then took the car and drove it into the levey, drove another car(the guys) to another area to dump the knife and their clothes,then he gave my son money to get home on,bought him a bus ticket home and told him if he ever opened his mouth he and his family would be next! He'd gotten away with murder before and his family would make sure he got away again! Then he showed him a picture of me and his girl-friends and letters all of us had written him and told him just so you know-I know where they are and I can and will get to them!!! My son was petrified! After he got on the bus someone??? called the sheriff's dept. and said a murder suspect was on a bus headed for WVa. they gave my sons name gee wonder who that was!!:angry: Anyway my son was taken off the bus in Memphis,Tn. He ended up in jail from 1/98 to4/2000 before his trial started.They picked a jury and started the trialApril 5,2000 and it ended and he was sentanced to life April 7,2000. 3 days for a capital murder trial!!!! His public defender was a joke all the info I gave you^ was brought out in court .The other guy involved was arrested and I recieved threatening phone calls at home, there were threats on the shower wall directed to my son. There were threats written on a cell wall towards my son and yes this guy had been charged with murder before and got off just like he got off this time. His trial was later and he got found not guilty!! I didn't expect my baby boy to get off he needed to bare some of the responsiblity but did he deserve it all?? Can you really get a fair trial in that length of time? I know I've taken up alot of space, but thanks for letting me talk.
chickletone

Chickletone, what a sad story. It is a real shame that other man got off. I wonder how many people he has killed since then? It sounds like your son just got mixed up with some bad people. My prayers are with you and him. I know what has happened to him just breaks your heart. How old is your son?

merry christmas to all the members and our forum leaders.
peace be with you!

Atalie,
Thanks for the kind words and your prayers! Lil'j is my oldest he turned 29 last July,28 th. My middle son turned 21 last July31st and my baby boy turned 18 last march 12th. This whole thing has torn the whole family apart. Its just amazing how much some people can get away with and others none. A girl here in Wheeling just got sentenced to 6yrs.flat for making a drug purchase on a payphone!! I just don't get it!
chickletone

Chicklet, ride that bike over here :ha:so I can give you a great big hug. :grouphug:

The so called justice system makes me sad. It should be called Injustice.

my husband is considered a vo, cuz he has 3 felonys against him and one is carrying a gun while robbing a bank
but he is the most kindest, lovable, sweetest person i have ever met

Waitin-just read your post-thanks just like everyone else I could use one! Now is it a left or a right at the light? Can toto and Atalie come too?(smile)
Sorry to hear that MISSINRICH-put it doesn't surprise me! What does surprise me is how the states can get away with some of the stuff they pull!
chickletone

Chickletone....what a sad story.

Thank you for sharing with us.

hugs,
Ann

Of course chicklet bring them both, and turn right and go two blocks, its the house with striped legs sticking out from underneath it! :hehe:

You two are seriously demented! Don't look so shocked, you know who I'm talking to! Oh, do you think there will be a lot of really short guys who sing in very high squeeky voices? I have this fantasy about seven of them! Oh never mind those were the dwarfs!:o :o
Never mind!

:ha::ha::ha::ha::ha::ha::ha::ha::ha::ha:
Good one Atalie!

You guys are gonna haveta forgive me on these posts!! I kept forgettin where I've been and then get lost in this *#*# computer!!!! Besides that Ican't find my other red shoe!! I think one of those lollypop boys had them last!!!! Atalie thats not very nice calling our friends demented:D I'm sure they all mean well!!!:D Besides who has fantasy's about the not one not two but seven dwarfs?? Things that make ya go huuuummmmmm????:thumbsup: chickletone

Chicklet girl u make me :ha: :ha: :ha: :ha: :ha: :ha: :ha:

aaaahhhha!!!! those little buggers did have my shoes!!!!
chickletone

I think that calls for some strict punishment. What oh what will you do?

I'll get them my pretty!!! But not the dogThis ol witch loves animals! I even married 2 doggs course also divorced them too! anyway no lollypops for the boys for several days!!!
chickletone

My bf has a lot of drug/alcohol charges. He got charged with his second domestic last summer bc of a fight we got into. He served 3 mo's got out and was given a reporting sentence that left him out for Christmas but in for that New Years. Stupid me didn't realize why he was still out when he came to see me later that day after he tracked me down. He later told me the real reason why he didn't go in. Bc he couldn't leave me. We've had a lot of fighting issues in our relationship. He was very violent for a long time. I used to get slammed into walls and slapped around a lot. That doesn't mean he can't change.

When he got done serving the 3 mo's on the Domestic for me he never laid a hand on me after that. After that charge he was out for two months, then went on run for 3. And he's been in since March of this year. We've been together since March '03. He still has another year to serve after being in there for 9 mo's so far. I can't wait to move to KY and get away from here. I move to KY for a year for him to finish his sentence then he paroles out of there instead of coming back here and we move to Florida. Let's hope to live Happily Ever After.

Welcome to the forum bonnienclyde05, in spite of some of the past posts not all of us are completely crazy!!! Those of you who are , know who I'm talking about!!!!!!
I really hope things work out for you both, it concerns me he was violent with you, but if you say he has changed maybe he has. I do hope you can live happily ever after. PTO is a great place for support and this thread is a great place to get away from it all.

Uh....ladies....remember this is not the 'freedom cafe' here!! We have to stay on topic!!!
Thanks for understanding!!!


penwife

Sorry, when I posted that, I thought I was in the cafe. I guess I hit the wrong space. I will watch that in the future, thanks for bringing it to my attention.

I've done it before too...and I wasn't pointing fingers!!!!!!

Ann

just because someone is in prison for a violent crime doesn't mean that they are a horrible person.

johnsheart, no it doesn't. I am behind that statement 110%

Steve is considered a violent offender, attempted murder!!! He got 4 years which is great! But the way they made him seem was just outragous! He isn't this malicious person they made him out to be!!! But he is the father of my child, and the man i pray God wants me to spend the rest of my life with!!! !

Ashley, they always portray them as vicious and unredeemable, that is how they get conviction's and long prison terms. The police, the DA., and the judge do not know them like we do. My brother committed a vicious murder, but he is not the crime he committed, and there were circumstances that led up to the crime, as there almost always is.

Your very right atalie, i guess i just get very disturbed when the "legal" system does not acknowledge that obviously someone provoked these people to do these things! In some cases! I just pray that God will place in the hearts of our american leaders that situations arise and sometimes people must take action to defend themselves! Thank you for your reply! God bless you and be encouraged!
Ashley

Ashley, they always portray them as vicious and unredeemable, that is how they get conviction's and long prison terms. The police, the DA., and the judge do not know them like we do. My brother committed a vicious murder, but he is not the crime he committed, and there were circumstances that led up to the crime, as there almost always is.

My son was convicted of Capital Murder.Even though he was forced into the crime by another (who got off again for the 3rd time!) cooperated with the Detectives,he got life instead of the death penalty. Not because of the authorites that promised to help him if he helped them but by the jury who thoutht he deserved to live.People including family members say that I raised a murderer.As soon as people find out what he's in jail for the write him off as a monster.I have another friend who when she got a divorce she and her husband decided it was in the best interest of their 2 boys that he retain custody in the home they were raised in because her job required alot of travel and he worked out of the home.These two still love each other but aren't in love,they wanted things as easy on the boys as possible. Yet she is considered a monter because she"threw away her children.There must be something really wrong with her for a Judge to let him have the kids.He spends half his time defending her and the looks,snide remarks and attitude she gets at school functions is unreal! Because they love the boys and want the best for them she's a monster. People are quick to judge until they are put in a sittuation.

chickletone;
that is sooooo true!!! when people here that my fiance is in prison for atempted murder they don't ask anything they just assume that i run around dating quote on quote "thugs" which isn't the case, he is a loving person, he was in college! And he made an honest mistake that honestly i am glad he made, if he didn't he would not be alive and our son would never know him! I am so sorry to hear about your son! But very thankful he got life instead of death! Thats the one thing i never understand if killing someone is a crime how can the government kill someone with no remorse??? I am a firm believer in stopping the death penalty all together! I just wanted to share with you that i do understand your position; and people are always going to have something to say! Just keep holding your head high because at the end of the day alot of those people couldn't walk 1/2 a mile in your shoes!
Take care and God Bless!
Ashley
My son was convicted of Capital Murder.Even though he was forced into the crime by another (who got off again for the 3rd time!) cooperated with the Detectives,he got life instead of the death penalty. Not because of the authorites that promised to help him if he helped them but by the jury who thoutht he deserved to live.People including family members say that I raised a murderer.As soon as people find out what he's in jail for the write him off as a monster.I have another friend who when she got a divorce she and her husband decided it was in the best interest of their 2 boys that he retain custody in the home they were raised in because her job required alot of travel and he worked out of the home.These two still love each other but aren't in love,they wanted things as easy on the boys as possible. Yet she is considered a monter because she"threw away her children.There must be something really wrong with her for a Judge to let him have the kids.He spends half his time defending her and the looks,snide remarks and attitude she gets at school functions is unreal! Because they love the boys and want the best for them she's a monster. People are quick to judge until they are put in a sittuation.

Chickletone, you are so right about people judging other people. I am still scared to death my sister will find out I am in touch with our brother, I just don't know how she will react. She is a good person, but she is very judgmental and does not forgive easily. It has been nearly ten years, time to let it go as far as I am concerned. He is being punished every day and he is alone. Some people might consider that a justified punishment, but I don't think anyone should be completely alone. It broke my heart when I was doing the christmas card project to hear how many inmates have no one who writes to them, it is so sad. I still feel guilty about not contacting my brother for so long, and I wanted to do it much sooner but was scared. I only pray he understands why it was so hard for me, and forgives me for leaving him alone for so long. I think those who have no one on the outside have a much harder time in prison. Sorry this became so long.

atalie; your soooo right! I can't always write steve as much as i'd like and sometimes i am filled with anger but he told me even if i write him a letter cussing him out just write! And i know why! He is scared just like anyone else would be! He is alone and its sad to see people go away for years or even life and have NOBODY! People in prison aren't your friends! I am sorry to say that, but no one is in there to be friends they are tryin to do there time and call it a day! continue to be blessed!!! Ashley

Atalie you don't have to feel so bad!! The important thing is your bro has you now!! Look how happy your visit made him!! He now knows he has you in his life,and I'm sure that has made his time in prison alittle easier. The fact that he knows you come to PTO also lets him know you're tring everything you can do to understand,love and be there for him! His circle of understanding and support without judgement as gooten alot bigger! Besides without you he'd never have gotten mail from me!(hahaha!) Look at our own lives,with everything we have to do,all the people we inneract with daily,the love of others even our furry family members(my personal favorites!) we still get down and depressed.How can those locked up with no-one help not getting down?If one lousy letter about what my cat did can make someone smile its worth the 20 min. I spent writing it. If I re-enforce to my son that no matter what Momma loves him and is here for him and he has a better day then I don't give a rats patooty what others think!! I have to tell him all the time "God knows the who,what and why"and you two talk it out and deal with it! Its done its over and you can't change what you did but you can use it to grow from,and become a better man because of it.

My son was high on crystal meth and with some other stupid people who decided to rob a pizza delivery guy. The PDG tried to fight one of the other people and my son hit him over the head with a shovel handle. The victim,yes he was a victim,had stitches and 3 days off work.
My son had done STUPID things before but this was the first time he hurt somone.
He earned his prison time by committing his crime, a crime that injured another person. If it takes prison time for him to never do that again then it is time well spent. Heartbreaking yes. It took prison for him to really see what he was doing with his life and to the lives of others.

My heart goes out to you Felixpm!!!
I know what you're going through. My son is in prison also. It's the hardest thing I ever did when I left him behind those bars. As a mother from the moment of conception we start protecting them,nurturing them, and keeping them from harm.Once they start growing we continue to protect and fix their problems and kiss their booboos away.As they get older we still want to do that and when we can't it's an automatic guilt trip!! Its so hard to realize they have to take responsibility and accept the punishment.
you and yours are in my prayers

My man is considered a VO, but... he's really not. He got charged with aggravated armed robbery. And 3-degree burglary. I still love him. I think all of us women in here have learned that we can't look down on these men like most of society does. They're people and they have hearts and they need loving too!

Welcome to the Violent Offender forum forever! I don't believe my man is violent either, although he did commit a violent crime. You'll find yourself in good company here.

Welcome to the forum Forever, you will find a lot of support here from people who understand. My brother committed a violent crime, but I understand that is not who he is and I remain committed to him. Good luck to you both in the future.

Forever.....welcome to the VO forum. We are here to help support you while you support your loved one. I am sure you will find alot of ppl here with the same attitude and understanding as you have.

Again, welcome to the VO forum!!!!

penwife

Welcome to the violent offender forum. My sweetie is a violent offender but he is not voilent in my eyes. Yes they are people too and deserve love just as any human does. Glad you found your way to such an awesome source of support! HUGSSS

My boyfriend is considered a VO but I see through all the titles hes been given by the law. He was initially accused of Attempted murder, first degree robbery, first degree conspiracy, criminal facilitation, and criminal possession of a weapon. Thanks to the Lord, his charges were dropped down to 2nd degree Robbery. He's got a little under 2 yrs left...and my support the whole way.

My boyfriend is considered a VO but I see through all the titles hes been given by the law. He was initially accused of Attempted murder, first degree robbery, first degree conspiracy, criminal facilitation, and criminal possession of a weapon. Thanks to the Lord, his charges were dropped down to 2nd degree Robbery. He's got a little under 2 yrs left...and my support the whole way.

Welcome to the VO forum!!!!! Let us support you while you support your guy!!!!


penwife

My soon to be husband is also considered a vo. He was just 17 years old when he got locked up for stabbing somone in a drunken fight. He was my boyfriend (I was only 15) he went to prison just before my 16 th birthday. We have been in contact through letters all theese years (16 & 1/2) I sent him a new phone number to call me at a few months ago and I got to here his voice for the first time in 16 & 1/2 years just a few weeks ago!! I cried tears of joy!!! it was a beautiful day. We want to get married when he gets out but he was denighed a parole in jan. So we are hopeing to see a more posstive out come next year. He is a very soft hearted person also I love him very much. My biggest (?) is why must a person be only knowen for the worst thing they have ever done in their life for the rest of their lives? I mean cant people change for the better? I strongly belive they can, what he did was wrong and he regrets it but he is also greatfull that he dident have to live with the guilt of takeing someones life because he knows that it could have happend. He knows that if he had not been drinking and using drugs at the time it probley would have never happend. The other man in the fight had a knife as well and tried to stabb him to but that man was never charged with anything. My man got suckered into a plea that has kept him locked up for a very long time for what I strongly believe should have been self defence. He also had a very lazy public defender. All we can do now is love them and prey for the best. and let others know theese are people to and everyone deserves a seconed chance.

Mpalmateer!! Welcome and thankyou so much for sharing your story with us!! Yes you're right,no one cares about what a person has done to change their life for the better,they only focus on the negative. I hope it will change,but it will take time I'm sure.

chickletone Thank you so much for your support and understanding I am glad someone replied to our story because I was starting to feel alone. I am pretty new to all of this computer stuff and to this web sight I was truley blessed to have found it.

chickletone Thank you so much for your support and understanding I am glad someone replied to our story because I was starting to feel alone. I am pretty new to all of this computer stuff and to this web sight I was truley blessed to have found it.
Girl you just don't know how right you are!!! I have no clue how I managed for the first 8yrs. without PTO!! Since I found this place last Nov. (yeah I'm a newbie too) I have found so much support and understanding!! And over in the Freedom Cafe thread,I've learned to laugh again~and that its okay to do that!! Do you get to visit this weekend? If so be safe and enjoy!!!

My boyfriend is considered a VO but I see through all the titles hes been given by the law. He was initially accused of Attempted murder, first degree robbery, first degree conspiracy, criminal facilitation, and criminal possession of a weapon. Thanks to the Lord, his charges were dropped down to 2nd degree Robbery. He's got a little under 2 yrs left...and my support the whole way.
Hello and welcome!!! Love your screen name!! My son's nickname is Lilj!!!! Hope you come back soon!!!:cool:

My soon to be husband is also considered a vo. He was just 17 years old when he got locked up for stabbing somone in a drunken fight. He was my boyfriend (I was only 15) he went to prison just before my 16 th birthday. We have been in contact through letters all theese years (16 & 1/2) I sent him a new phone number to call me at a few months ago and I got to here his voice for the first time in 16 & 1/2 years just a few weeks ago!! I cried tears of joy!!! it was a beautiful day. We want to get married when he gets out but he was denighed a parole in jan. So we are hopeing to see a more posstive out come next year. He is a very soft hearted person also I love him very much. My biggest (?) is why must a person be only knowen for the worst thing they have ever done in their life for the rest of their lives? I mean cant people change for the better? I strongly belive they can, what he did was wrong and he regrets it but he is also greatfull that he dident have to live with the guilt of takeing someones life because he knows that it could have happend. He knows that if he had not been drinking and using drugs at the time it probley would have never happend. The other man in the fight had a knife as well and tried to stabb him to but that man was never charged with anything. My man got suckered into a plea that has kept him locked up for a very long time for what I strongly believe should have been self defence. He also had a very lazy public defender. All we can do now is love them and prey for the best. and let others know theese are people to and everyone deserves a seconed chance.

Welcome to PTO and to the VO forum!!! You'll never have to feel alone again! We are all in the same situation as you are(more or less) and we understand what you are going thru! We are here to support and for friendship....like chicklet said....our Freedom Cafe thread is a wonderful place to get to know the VO members....Im sure you'll find out very quickly that we like to laugh and to be silly!

hugs,
penwife
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chickletone Yes this is a very great place I dont get to visit I have not seen him in person in almost 17 years. he is 10 hours away. we have wrote each other back and forth and exchanged pic all theese years. I had finally got my first phone call from him a few weeks ago, the first time I even got to hear his voice in almost 17 years!!!! I cryed trears of joy. I am going to plan a trip this summer to go visit!!!! Hopefully he will get his parole in jan 2007 then the wedding is on!! How are you holding up hopefully great because we will one day have them back in our lives. keep them close to our hearts for now and that way they are never really that far away!! and do the best we can to give them the love they deserve in the best way that we can with them being away. thanks again for taking the time out of your day to give and recieve support!! This is really a great idea.

Mpalmateer!! So gald you found us and shared your True Love Story!! I don't get to see my son much,since he's in Ms. and I'm in WVa.He's only allowed visits on the 1st and 3rd Fridays of the month for 3hrs. Doesn't matter to them that I have to get a ride to the airport(45min-1hr away) fly down there,get a hotel,and make arrangments to drive another 45min-1hr to the Prison for a 3hr visit. I love my son dearly but I can't afford the travel expenses for too many trips! Plus I have 2 more in College.Even though they have full scholarships,they still need my help. He understands though.Anyway it must have been wonderful to hear your guys voice!!!! When I read that part I got goosebumps!! If you scroll down to the Freedom Cafe thread you'll get a good laugh in there!! This is one if not the best group of friends in here!!! They truely care about each other!! And when you're having a bad day~as we all do:) these ladies will reach out and I swear you can feel the hugs they send you!!! Hope you have a good weekend!! chickletone!:thumbsup:

mpaleteer, welcome to PTO and the VO forum. You are so right about people just looking at the neg side of our loved one's. it can be a lonely road, and that is why PTO is so important to all of us. It sounds like your boyfriend got a raw deal, it sure sounds like self defense to me. Hope you stick around, and if you want check out Freedom cafe, a sub-forum of the violent offender thread. It is a place to have fun and relax ( though we do our share of bi$%^ing too. ) again welcome.

MY MAN IS A VIOLANT OFFENDER GOT 8 TO 25 HAS SERVED 14 YRS WE JUST HAD PAROLE HEARING IN jAN REFUSED PAROLE,wE ARE TRYING TO HAVE HIS CASE REOPENED FOUND A PARALEGAL BUT HES SHOWED US NOTHING AS OF YET THAT HES DONE AND HAS COST US MONEY WE DONT HAVE,,KEEP US IN YOPUR PRAYERS AS WE DO ALL IN PRISON,ITS A ROUGH LIFE,,aLICE

Hi Alice, welcome to PTO and the VO Forum.

Alice welcome to PTO, good luck with the paralegal.

thank you its great we can give support to each other,knowing we all know the way we are feeling,,

My husband is considered a violent offender. These are his two violent crimes:
First, he walked into an unlocked house without any weapons or burglary tools. The owner came home and my husband was still empty handed. It happened to be a police officers home!!! What luck. The police officer had my honey on the ground with a gun to his head telling him that he was debating on whether or not to kill him or not. He was charged with burglary 2, a violent offense. The "victim" was the one who was violent.
His second violent offense was that once he was in the DNA database they connected him with some blood on a broken window. He never entered the residence. He just cut his hand on the broken storm window. This charge was attempted burglary 2 which is another violent offense. It seems to me that what is considered "violent" ought to be redefined. Doesn't it seem pretty obvious that while my husband may have been trying to rob people for some dope money for us, which is definately a crime, he is not a violent person and should not have 2 violent offenses on his record. Trust me, heroin addicts tend not to be the most violent people.

ghostmama, I have to agree with you there. My brother was a long time heroin user and his crimes were bank robbery w/o a weapon. But, after serving time in some of the most notorious maximum security prisons in the federal system he ended up committing 2nd degree murder. He wasn't violent before he went to prison for five years.

Welcome Ghostmama, Yes those are some wack labels for your hubby. Theres some people serving long sentences for alot less. Once given the label it follows you for the rest of your life. I hope your husband is atleast in a facility that gives him treatment for his heroin addiction/withdrawl.One person I know is labeled a V/O and was charged assault with a deadly weapon(car) and attempted vehilcular manslaughter.This person is a diabetic who was trying to get to the hospital to be with their dying Mother, the stress elevated their sugar level and they started to black out.They tried to stop their car and cut to the right too sharply,the other driver ran a stop sign and was hit.Try and figure those charges out!!They're planning to appeal but as it stands they are labeled a V/O.

ghostmama! They sound more like property crimes to me, but we all know how the prosecutors like to get things twisted!
Like Chicklet said, i hope you and your guy have gotten help for your addiction.....not judging you, just know that's it hard to beat that kind of thing alone.

hugs,
pw

Ghostmama, I have to agree with the others. If you have not gotten help for your drug addiction please do so, I pray he gets the help he needs also. I know all to well how hard it is to stay off drugs, especially Heroin. Blessings to you both.

Hubby is considered a violent offender by the Ga DOC. Personally knowing him, he is one to walk away from issues rather than fight...but to the prison system he is considered violent. :(

Hi Eternal hope!! Glad to see you posting in the VO forum!!!


pw

My soon to be husband is also considered a vo. He was just 17 years old when he got locked up for stabbing somone in a drunken fight. He was my boyfriend (I was only 15) he went to prison just before my 16 th birthday. We have been in contact through letters all theese years (16 & 1/2) I sent him a new phone number to call me at a few months ago and I got to here his voice for the first time in 16 & 1/2 years just a few weeks ago!! I cried tears of joy!!! it was a beautiful day. We want to get married when he gets out but he was denighed a parole in jan. So we are hopeing to see a more posstive out come next year. He is a very soft hearted person also I love him very much. My biggest (?) is why must a person be only knowen for the worst thing they have ever done in their life for the rest of their lives? I mean cant people change for the better? I strongly belive they can, what he did was wrong and he regrets it but he is also greatfull that he dident have to live with the guilt of takeing someones life because he knows that it could have happend. He knows that if he had not been drinking and using drugs at the time it probley would have never happend. The other man in the fight had a knife as well and tried to stabb him to but that man was never charged with anything. My man got suckered into a plea that has kept him locked up for a very long time for what I strongly believe should have been self defence. He also had a very lazy public defender. All we can do now is love them and prey for the best. and let others know theese are people to and everyone deserves a seconed chance.

Our stories are very similar. I also was 16 when he went in. We went 27 years before I contacted him. That first phone call, I was so excited my hands were shaking when I answered the phone. It has been quite a ride since then.
He is also the kindest, gentlest man I've ever met. He is guilty of a terrible crime, but it was an anomaly for him, and yes, drugs and alcohol were behind it. He has been denied parole several times, we can't seem to get that second chance that so many others get time and time again. It makes absolutely no sense. It seems to me that the system refuses to recognize that these men can and do change, just like all of us do. None of us are the same people we were in our youth.
Maybe some day, some kind of sense will come over those who hold the power over our lives. Some times I wonder, how many more people can they lock up before they realize the corrections system as it stands, does not work. Ok, getting off my soapbox now. :rolleyes:

My son is also considered a violent offender which is ridiculous. He is an 18 year old paraplegic in a wheelchair. His crime was speeding and hit another car and someone died.

Media became involved and said that he intentionally hit the other car because he must of been depressed because he was in a wheelchair. No alchol or drugs were involved. Its all stupid. How can serving 21 years in prison help bring back the other person. Why not keep him on house arrest that way we pay for his medical expenses not the prison. Why not let him get a job, he was in college when all this happened (for criminal justice) then he could give half his wages to the victims family. The system is screwed up.

This was the first time he has ever been in trouble. I still get mad thinking about everything. There should be laws for first time offenders.

SweetNSassy welcome to the VO Forum. It sounds like your son got railroaded! How can they take care of his needs in prison? Why would he smash into a car because he was in a wheelchair, even if he was depressed? Why wouldn't he smash into a wall or something? I don't get it.

EternalHope, welcome to the VO Forum.

I do. My boyfriend is currently in prison for battery. I hope he can get some kind of help there. It's very scarey and so hard living with somone that is like he is, at times.

mamaSheila, it must be really hard living with someone you are afraid of at times. I hope he does get some help.

my husband has currently been convicted of 6 serious felony charges in which this is his first conviction and dispite that the victim stated that he had nothing to do with it nor did he lay a hand the jury still managed to convict him of all 6 charges with no evidence based upon hersay. he is only 21 and doesnt have a criminal history at all and was until this happened going to college and and playing instruments he is a very smart and loving spirit. its a shame that he might get a life system and dont even have a criminal mind at all. his father is a retired pastor so he comes from a really good back ground. it just so happends that sometime you can love a person who has been convicted of things that dont even have nothing to do with you and just like that your life is gone. instead of helping society and being able to finish college now he is stuck being taught how to be a criminal that wasnt even in his dimenor......

My guy is in for attempted murder, 2 counts. Didn't happen like all the others stories I have read. Lazy public defender. Did absolutly nothing.

Diamond, sorry to hear of your circumstances. He is so young and it sounds like he had a bright future ahead of him. Best of luck to you both.

Longtime, sorry your BF was convicted if he was innocent, I think a lot of us have had to deal with lazy PD.

thank you so much Atlie....:-)

Such sad stories! When are we going to find alteritive sentencing for first time offenders? Why do we insist that they be locked away with carreer criminals to learn their way of life?
Diamond & Longtime..I am truly sorry for what has happened to your loved ones. we are here for you for support if you need it.


hugs,
penwife

Welcome to all of you that are new! I am sorry about each of your sittuations.

Sweet ans Sassy, I know exactly how you feel. My husband too is branded as a violent offender. He was driving a car and wrecked with another car. My husband had life threatning injuries and the other person very minor ones. The day my husband was released from the hospital they arrested him for homicide. The other person involved developed a blood clot whime in the hospital and died. The crazy thing is that the family of the person who died sued the hospital fro malpractice and won yet the DA still pressed charges against my husband. He was only 20 when this happened. His choices where either plead out or risk a 25 year sentence. We decided together that the plea was the lesser of 2 evils. He ended up get a 8yr sentence for invoulntary vehicular homicide. That was 5years ago and as of right now if he keeps his good time he will be home in 22 months. All in all he will have done 7 years on a 8 year sentence and he will be 27 years old. Scary huh. Thank you all for reading my story.

Joe4Ever,

That's sad, branded a VO for a car accident? Having to spend 8 years in prison? I am so sorry.




pw

Joe4ever,I don't know why your story surprised and shocked me.I'm so sorry you and your man had to go through this. It doesn't make sense and it definately isn't fair. How can they hold him responsible if the hospital was charged? What a nightmare for you all to go through.My thoughts and prayers go out to you all!!

joe4ever, that is indeed very scary, it could happen to any of us. I am so sorry he has given so many years of his life for an accident.
A friend of mine has a daughter who was 18 at the time, she was driving and leaned over to get a lighter out of her purse and ran a stop sign, another car hit her broadside and her passenger was killed. She was in college and it was a sorority sister who died. they gave her probation, community service and she lost her license for 5 years. There seems to be no fairness in these situations.

mine is definitelt considered a VO. barely 21 yrs old by a few days and was high on meth and tried to rob a store. clerk tried to get the gun away from him , he panicked, gun went off, store owner died. my guy was so stoned he didnt even know he did it until they picked him up 6 days later.

mine is definitelt considered a VO. barely 21 yrs old by a few days and was high on meth and tried to rob a store. clerk tried to get the gun away from him , he panicked, gun went off, store owner died. my guy was so stoned he didnt even know he did it until they picked him up 6 days later.

Welcome to the VO forum! Im glad you have found us!


Ann

My husand is considered a violent offender, he's been down for years.

yeah, my guy is a VO. and he did what he did. strong armed robbery. and he was a little buzzed, but he knew what he was doing. no matter how extenuating the circumstances. he did it. after 12 years (and a boat load of change) and hitting 40!!- he knows better. it think love and understanding, talking about childhood fears and all that goes a long way. trust and a confidante makes a diff, too.

my guy said he thinks he is the only guilty one in his facility because everyone else is in denial. lol.

Welcome all of the new members to the VO Forum. Glad you stopped in and certainly hope you will stay with us. On the days that you are having a not so good day.....come and join in the Freedom Cafe. We want everyone to come and have a good laugh. Some of the girls are somewhat crazy. Not me though. :D :D :D
Once again....Welcome to the VO Forum!!!

Patti

OsHoney! Hello and welcome to the VO forum!! I hope you come back and visit us often!!

mrs.battsiii!!! I hear ya on the hitting 40 and taking a good hard look at yourself. My guy did the same thing.....he's got a lot to live down but he's the man to do it....he too admits his guilt, has from the very start.


pw

My Fiance robbed a man in a park and a conveinet store....no weapon....no injury...just wanted $$$ for drugs....If Insurance would have paid for rehab longer than 2 weeks...this all would not have happened. Was it worth the $$$$???Absoultly not!!!

So now my so called VIOLENT fiance is serving 3 1/2 in a max . Go figure!!

Im sorry about your situation, Julie, We're here for you when you need support!


pw

Welcome to the VO Forum. There is a lot of wonderful people in here that are very supportive!

Welcome Julie

hi everyone my boyfriend is a violent offender as well but heres the kicker he was coked out and stole a purse. no injury she got her purse back, sentenced to 12 years with parole after 85%. so that 10yrs for a purse that he didnt even get to keep.

welcome tnt2006, and they wonder why the prisons are full !

hiya...

OsHoney! Hello and welcome to the VO forum!! I hope you come back and visit us often!!

mrs.battsiii!!! I hear ya on the hitting 40 and taking a good hard look at yourself. My guy did the same thing.....he's got a lot to live down but he's the man to do it....he too admits his guilt, has from the very start.pw

i think that is an important step, you know? just like when we were all kids (teens, 20s) we used "i was drunk" as an excuse. nah- doesn't fly. you have to look at the behavior, if not, and people keep making excuses, it is still there, buried and may re-surface later. after all they got away with the "excuse" the last time, eh?:thumbsup:

nice to meet u. take care, then.

mrs.b

hi my husband is concidered voilent also, his violence comes froma long line of stupid stuff he commited while younger and even now. none of his involved weapons other then his fists and words. recently he put in for work release and was denied (i saw that comming) the terminology the board used was Caution: repeat offender. trouble with autority,assautive/sex/intoxians. And he claims none of it was even his fault (no excuse me while i repeatedly run into your fist i enjoy it) I recently for the first time in 9 months went to visit (5-26-06) and he came out very upset because my son and I had arrived late. needless to say I told him we would just leave if he was going to pull that crap and be glad that we hadn't gone home when they told me at the desk we needed my sons birth certificate to be allowed visits. instead i drove an extra 56 miles to the nearest county seat and back to visit his a** and i was in no mood to take his bs. He has a way of pulling the that fine line and i recently started cutting him to the quick and he does not like it (no more being submissive and niave to his manipulations it is my turn to hold that key)

Concrete angel welcome to the VO forum. Your man sounds like he really does have anger issues, it is good you are standing up to him but if he wasn't in prison would that be dangerous for you? It doesn't sound like he has done anything to address the matter of his temper, fists are weapons and they can hurt people badly. I don't know your whole situation but I think I would be scared of him.

Hi Gang,
My guy is a VIOLENT offender, hes doing 30 years for killing what was his one time girlfriend. He had been drinking all day and decided to go to their trailer and they got in an arguement, that esculated to the point that they were fighting over a gun and the gun went off in her face killing her. He admits what he did and if he could take it back he would. He knows now that if it werent for him going to prison that more than likely he would be dead. He has been down so far for about 9 years with another 16 to go if he doesnt get his PCR. Its a long story with me and my guy. My guy is actually my ex husband. we divorced kinda early in our marriage because he was very abusive and had a very bad anger problem. we found each other again last april after being apart for 16 years. We are still getting to know each other again and fill eachother in on the past 16 years. so thats our story. Oh and i have been in prison too and also considered somewhat of a violent offender. even though i wasnt there when the alleged crime happened.

:( My husband is also considered a VO. He assaulted a corrections officer while in our county jail for assault. He is a really sweet man and can keep his temper under control most of the time. The assault charge accured when we went to a local bar and as we walked in a man called me a "n*gger lover" because my husband is black. One thing that he can not handle is people disrespecting me! :(

Welcome to the VO Forum The Jacksons, you'll find a lot of support here! Feel free to join us in the Freedom Cafe, which is our monthly chitchat thread

Thank you for welcoming me. I feel so lost without him and I think I need people/friends to relate to. I really don't know how to use alot of the features on here. Like how do I get a countdown at the end of my post?:confused:

Thank you for welcoming me. I feel so lost without him and I think I need people/friends to relate to. I really don't know how to use alot of the features on here. Like how do I get a countdown at the end of my post?:confused:

you've come to the right place for support and understanding!
You can go to the siggy forum and request a counter for your siggy...

here's the kink to the siggy forum and here is a link to the rules regarding siggys,counters..ect...

PTO Policy
http://www.prisontalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23755

Siggy forum

http://www.prisontalk.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=205



penwife

:confused: Thank you for that. It says that my account can't have that feature I guess. Anyway thank you for being so nice between my husband being in prison and the fact that I am white and my man is black I don't get alot of support.:broken:

Honey, none of that matters here. We are all the same on the inside. We accept you for who you are and will always show you respect and compassion. that is what the VO forum is all about support without judgement.

hugs,
pw

Ann, you are such a sweet person and so good with words! I find a lot of support here no matter what my situation is!!!!!

The jackson's I cannot believe that kind of thing still happens! I can certainly understand your husband getting angry about that. Welcome to PTO and the VO forum. You will find we welcome all new people with open arms because we understand what you are going through having a loved one locked up. I know for a fact no one cares if your husband is black!

Cass, thank you for sharing your story with us. It sounds very romantic, or at least has the potential to be!

I don't really have that much time left before he gets out. I wish I would have found this sight at the beginning of the sentence. Im glad that I did now because I really needed someone to tell me that they care. Thanks!

Even though all ya'll may not have much time left there are a ton of resources here and forums for when he comes home :)

And I know where you're coming from, I would have been lost without this site!

I'm sorry you've had to deal with that ingnorant behavior. Unfortunately racism is still around.Its hard NOT to re-act to their stupidity.To be honest I'm surprised I still have a tongue since I've bitten it quite often! Welcome to PTO and the V/O forum.I too wish I'd found this site along time ago. I hope you continue to visit us even after your honey comes home,as I'm sure you will still be able to offer us valueable info!

I get to go to visitations on the 11th so I'm getting pretty excited. I go and see him every 2 weeks for four hours. Last week he was in the hole so they reschduled me for Memorial Day and after I drove 3 hours there they told me they made a mistake and I couldn't see him on holidays either while in the hole. So I didn't have a very good weekend. Very disapointing infact.:( :angry: :argh:

Hi (http://Hi), it's the new girl. After a few more posts I won't consider myself the new girl any more. I am insanely in love with a "VO". He's been down for 18 years now and still has about 7 more to go. I have lost count with the time, but not with him. Unfortunately, he has been in and out of the system since his early teens and we are in our mid 30's now. He is in for murder, but as someone else said, he is a teddy bear to me. If you would meet him on the street, or most of the "VO's" for any matter, they are not usually violent people. It saddens me to know what some people think about these men who we love so dearly. We have a daughter who is the apple of his eye and he would never put a hand on her. Whenever I would tell him that I had to dicipline her, he would feel so bad for her. I'm sure most of you could relate to that!

knab, welcome to our forum! My fiancé is in for murder too. I agree with you that the majority of violent offenders are not dangerous violent criminals, they just made a bad decision like the rest of people in prison.

I heard a CO say on a prison documentary the other day: "the people in prison aren't bad people, they just have bad habits". I felt that he was talking about the drug offenders and what not, but I think that our violent offenders aren't bad people, they just made a bad choice.

And, btw, nobody is the new girl around here ;)

I guess society considers him to be VO. He's in for Man 1. But He would never ever hurt me. He is just a big ole teddy bear, passionate about telling me how much he loves me constantly. I got a letter yesterday where he was describing his feelings he said he was trying to choke back the tears and I balled my eyes out. I LOVE HIM SO MUCH

My friend is in for Murder in the 2nd. He was 18 at the time and got caught up in the street life. Its amazing how your life can change with a split second wrong choice you make. We've been friends for years and he has never acted angry or controlling with me and I would never feel intimidated by him.

KnabChris welcome to our forum,

WesButtercup, welcome to the Violent offender forum.

Hi (http://hi/), it's the new girl. After a few more posts I won't consider myself the new girl any more. I am insanely in love with a "VO". He's been down for 18 years now and still has about 7 more to go. I have lost count with the time, but not with him. Unfortunately, he has been in and out of the system since his early teens and we are in our mid 30's now. He is in for murder, but as someone else said, he is a teddy bear to me. If you would meet him on the street, or most of the "VO's" for any matter, they are not usually violent people. It saddens me to know what some people think about these men who we love so dearly. We have a daughter who is the apple of his eye and he would never put a hand on her. Whenever I would tell him that I had to dicipline her, he would feel so bad for her. I'm sure most of you could relate to that!






Hello and welcome home!!!!

It doesn't matter how many posts you have, if

you walk in our door you are one of us!

And yes, I can relate to your story! My hubby, whose been down for 23

years, and I have a 10 year old daughter...she couldn't be more loved!!!!

As far as what others think of your VO....honey that doesn't even matter.

We know the truth and there's just no point in trying to explain it to those

who can't understand. That is why we got our own forum!!!!! So we can

talk about our guys and not care that others feel we aren't humble

enough or sorry enough for what they did!

I hope you come by often!


Ann

I guess society considers him to be VO. He's in for Man 1. But He would never ever hurt me. He is just a big ole teddy bear, passionate about telling me how much he loves me constantly. I got a letter yesterday where he was describing his feelings he said he was trying to choke back the tears and I balled my eyes out. I LOVE HIM SO MUCH

Welcome to our forum!!!! i am glad you found us!!



Ann

Welcome!!!! I hope you come back often!! My son's serving LWOP for Capital Murder,so I understand where you're coming from!! Everyone in here are some very caring and loving people whom I'm very proud to call family!! We _itch ,moan, groan, cry, brag, rejoice, laugh,and love our Vo's!!! In our eyes and relationships they are kind loving souls!

Chicklet is right, if you want to be a part of something wonderful, come

join us in the Freedom Cafe and for our chats that Altalie will be starting

soon. It doesn't matter how new you are to this forum, you are still just

as welcome as anyone who has been around for a long time!

Heck, we might even treat you better , just cause we're so darned happy

to have new members coming in!!!!!

hugs to all!

Ann

My husband was sentenced to 3 years for assault with intent to create great bodiy injury and is serving his time in New Folsom in California. He had a terrible public defender that literally told the jury that he was guilty without questioning any of our witnesses or doing any background research on the person my husband struck. He does have a bad temper and needs help with recognizing and controlling his anger I know. But at New Folsom although he has only 11 points and classified level 1 and this is his first time in prison he is being housed in a level 4 dorm which does not offer anger management courses (or any self help programs for that matter) because of a misdemeanor arson on his record almost 20 years ago. He was ordered by the judge sentencing him to take an alcohol treatment program as well and will not be able to get that in the level 4 dorm either. Can anyone tell me what will happen if he isn't able to take these courses when it comes time for him to be paroled? Will he have to stay until he does? Will Folsom Prison have to accomodate him since the alcohol diversion program was ordered by the judge? Are there correspondence courses I can order for him to take that would meet the course requirements? We can't get any answers from the CDC and his counselor is the person that recommended he be placed in the Level 4 dorm so she is of no help either. He wants me to write but I'm not sure who to contact. Please help.

Thanks,

Terri

MeandRandy, first off let me welcome you to the violent offender forum. We are a great group of people who offer a lot of support for each other. I am going to suggest you check out the CA forum and specifically the Folsum thread, they can answer some of your questions better than we can.
I am sorry your husband is in a level 4 and he is only sentenced to 3 years, I don't have a clue why. CA has its own way of doing things. Maybe someone else here can answer your questions.

Hi meandrandy!!!! It's good to have you in our forum!! I think altalie is right about going to the Cali forum to find some answers to your questions! But don't forget to come back to the VO forum for some great support and friendship!!!

hugs,
Ann

My man is imprisoned for an aggravated assault charge back in 1995. I think it is major bullsh*t because he was actually defending himself against another but of course he got the stick. I have never seen a mean bone in his body and it takes a lot to provoke him. We don't know how far we will go sometimes when they keep pushing all the wrong buttons.

My man is imprisoned for an aggravated assault charge back in 1995. I think it is major bullsh*t because he was actually defending himself against another but of course he got the stick. I have never seen a mean bone in his body and it takes a lot to provoke him. We don't know how far we will go sometimes when they keep pushing all the wrong buttons.
I just wanted to welcome you to our forum!!! I hope you visit us often!!

pw

impressions welcome to the violent offender forum.

WELL - HERE I GO..........................

I GUESS YOU COULD SAY THAT SOCIETY HAS LABELED MY HUSBAND A VO. HOWEVER THAT IS NOT THE HUSBAND I SEE IN MY EYES SO THAT IS VERY HARD FOR ME TO ACCEPT. MY HUSBAND HAS NEVER EVEN RAISED HIS VOICE TO ME. I THINK ITS BECAUSE OF HIS SIZE THAT PEOPLE GET INTIMIDATED AND ASSUME HE MUST HAVE BEEN IN THE WRONG.


THE FINE LADIES HERE HAVE BEEN VERY SUPPORTIVE OF ME AS OF LATELY. SO PLEASE HAVE PATIENCE WITH ME ON THIS.

THANKS
MRSSUNNYB

welcome to the VO Forum Mrssunnyb :) you'll find nothing but support here. Many of us do not consider our loved ones violent even though society has labelled them as such.

Welcome all of the new faces to "Loving a Violent Offender". We do hope that you will come and par-take in the love and support that we all have to offer here. What one considers a violent offender by law standards we all know that our loved ones have made mistakes, maybe was in the wrong place at the wrong time or what ever the case may be.
Welcome and please enjoy the company of others that are in the same boat. We would love to see you all back here again. We offer a laugh when needed, a hug when needed or broad shoulders for those days when you just want to tear the world apart. We are here for you!!!

Patti

Welcome all of the new faces to "Loving a Violent Offender". We do hope that you will come and par-take in the love and support that we all have to offer here. What one considers a violent offender by law standards we all know that our loved ones have made mistakes, maybe was in the wrong place at the wrong time or what ever the case may be.
Welcome and please enjoy the company of others that are in the same boat. We would love to see you all back here again. We offer a laugh when needed, a hug when needed or broad shoulders for those days when you just want to tear the world apart. We are here for you!!!

Patti
Well said!!! Lotta love in this group!!

Hi Everyone, I just got here and am so glad to find this forum, my boyfriend is considered a VO in the eyes of Texas. So not him, we all make mistakes and there are always circumstances. I don't know what is going to happen on his next review date, he has already recieved a 2yr set off. Whatever happens I will stick by him as long as it takes.

Howardsgirl, welcome to the Loving a Violent Offender forum. Glad to see that you could join us!!!

Welcome all of the new faces to "Loving a Violent Offender". We do hope that you will come and par-take in the love and support that we all have to offer here. What one considers a violent offender by law standards we all know that our loved ones have made mistakes, maybe was in the wrong place at the wrong time or what ever the case may be.
Welcome and please enjoy the company of others that are in the same boat. We would love to see you all back here again. We offer a laugh when needed, a hug when needed or broad shoulders for those days when you just want to tear the world apart. We are here for you!!!

Patti

Love understanding and support ! You said it all Patti!:)

Yeah mine is and has ...he's on 10 years for strong armed robbery..it sucks he's soooo sweet

Welcome to all of the newcomers to our forum!!!

We'd love to get to know all of you and let you know that we'd love for you to call the VO forum home!


hugs,
Ann

:o Hi Ann and everyone. It is late, but this is frequently when I am on the computer. I can seldom sleep, because I have nightmares about Ronnies safety at LCF. We are in PC at the Lawton Correctional Facility in Oklahoma. I visit today so I better try and catch a couple of hours before I start driving. I am glad to have found friends to talk with. Maybe it will help me grow less fearful. Later. HUGS!!:grouphug:

Maybe my Jimmy is different he is a violent person :( He loves kids we have 3 together and he never has even had to spank them once they just listen to him (not to me thought :blah: ) and he has never hit me, but he used to fight ALL the time out here. He hasn't said if he's fought with anyone in there yet (he's only been in a year) but he wouldn't tell me even if he did. He was raised by his mom who had 5 kids him being the youngest so she worked 2 sometimes 3 jobs to support them, so she was never home. Jimmy and his 2 brothers ran the streets all day and night from a very young age. He's got mad respect out here in the neighborhood and some of his fight stories still are talked about. He's been in and out of jail for fights more times than I want to say :o.

RonniesGirl, enjoy your visit!

My husband is a VO with an armed robbery conviction. He confessed within an hour of the incident, and the records show that he was trying to get diapers for our son, three weeks after he returned from a year in Iraq. Before I bailed him out, he called and I asked what he was thinking. He said he missed out on providing for us for the past year and couldn't handle asking family for money to buy diapers, but he didn't want to rob the place for money, he only wanted diapers. The records also state the conversation between him and the clerk, which describes his pleasant talk, he never cussed at her, never behaved remotely close to violent. But, inside the prison, no one sees the records, they see the crime, armed robbery. My husband was a soldier, very trained, but he has always been very honorable and protective of me and our son. He's also always been very gentle and loving with us. We think it's a joke that the state labeled him violent, when the only violence he's ever displayed was fighting the war in Iraq.

My man is considered a VO! He is in for his 3rd gun case, AB with a deadly weapoon. For the shooting at the police (the gun went off in the struggle). He was searving a 7-10 but in his appeal it was reduced to 5-7

Ronniesgirl!!!!! I am glad that you found us too. I hope we can help you thru your fears. I know talking about them helps alot.

Jimmy'sonlygirl! I can relate to the fight stories still being talked about. My guy has been in some pretty good/bad ones that the guards still like to bring up! My guys calmed down alot since his younger days, thank God!!!

CJ!! I know what you are talking about. My guy served in the Army in the late 1970's. The Army found he had a talent for sharp shooting and so they gave him extra training in that area.
When my guy went to trial for his crime they used that against him as much as they could.

pristock!!! Welcome to our forum!!! Glad that you found us!!

Ann

Welcome Ladies!!!! We are more than happy to have you join us!! We hope that you will stop by Freedom Cafe and have a laugh or two with us, cry if it's needed or what ever. Just jump right in and join the family!!!

Patti

cj and pristock welcome to the VO forum. cj what a sad story.
pristock i am happy your man got his sentence reduced.

Thanks! He goes up for parole this month but I'm sure nothing will come out of it, he got a "major" ticket last year, and he hasn't completed the CRA program for VO's. He has 2 years to wrap up so we will be ok. Thanks again ladies!!!

:o Thanks for the good thoughts and wishes. It was a good visit and maybe we have action on his medical treatment. We will see. I get a holiday visit on Wednesday so I am excited to go and be with him again.:p I will sleep tonight. I just hope I do not have a nightmanre. :o HUGS:grouphug: :o

Hello everyone, my son is considered a vo. He was in a car wreck and one of the other passengers in the other car died. No drugs or alcohol involved. He received 21 years. Please keep him in your prayers he is an 18 year old paraplegic.

Sweet, I'm sorry to hear of your son's misfortune, he will be in my thoughts and prayers.

sweetnsassy, welcome to the vo forum. That sounds like an awful lot of time for a car accident. I am sorry he got so much and that he is a paraplegic. Was he injured in the accident?

Welcome to all the new peeps in here!!!
We have some lively discussions in here!
We also have alot of fun in the Freedom cafe!
Again welcome all!!

sweetnsassy, Welcome!!!! Look forward to getting to know you. Please feel free to jump right in and have coffee or your favorite beverage while we all vent, laugh, cry, listen and share a common bond or two.....our "violent" offenders. Although we all know that our loved one has been labeled by society, we know the real person that is incarcerated.
We love to laugh and have a good time in here. Laughter has been a great cure-all for us. It doesn't change the fact that we have a loved one that is unable to live with us, but it does make us feel that our opinions really do matter and that there are others that accept us for who we are.

Patti

:yes: Welcome Boots and Sassy. Glad you are here. I haven't been here long, but I am already feeling better and at least now I have people to talk with and share with. Boots I agree with whiskeylullabye that the domestic abuse crowd should be able to give you lots of info. I never worry that Ronnie will hurt me or our children and families. He is doing time for armed robbery, but he has never killed anyone and he really doens't believe in violence either. I do worry for when he comes home because I know he has anger management issues; they were being addressed at one time. This facility where we are now doesn't address anything except punishment and retaliation on inmates by staff. That's another day. Any way Boots I hope yu can get your answers and that we can give you come comfort and peace. Sassy youand your son will be in my prayers. Leep us posted OK? Later. HUGS:) :grouphug: :)

Great to see all the new faces here!!! I am glad Ronnies Girl is already beginning to feel at home with us! Please all drop by in the Freedom Cafe, and have a few laughs with us- it really helps!!!! Prayers being sent for all of you, and welcome again to the VO forum!!!!!!!

My ex husband is a vo , that will never change with him. I left because of that and he loved to be with other women. Hes been in and out of prison most of his life. Theres a fine line between love and hate. I will always be grateful to him because ai have my son but thats the only reason. Im glad that all of you that have men considered to be a vo isnt a vo to you guys.

Sheila welcome to the vo forum.

thanks Atalie

Hey ya all it's been awhile I just wanted to stop in and say hi and see how everyone is doing.:D

Hey Mrs Jackson, how have you been. Check in more often why don't ya?

Things have been crazy... I got a car and two weeks later it broke down. I got the block off my phone and a week later they put it back on. My house got broke into and I had to move(husband said). It has been one thing after another but I only have 67 days until Clete comes home and at least I won't be by myself then.

Things have been crazy... I got a car and two weeks later it broke down. I got the block off my phone and a week later they put it back on. My house got broke into and I had to move(husband said). It has been one thing after another but I only have 67 days until Clete comes home and at least I won't be by myself then.

Girl!! You need to come on over to the Freedom Cafe and dish it with the rest of us!! I know we got members in there who can relate!!!!

hugs,
Ann

Mine is considered a VO he was convicted of Murder 2nd degree trying to protect a 15 year old boy.

Welcome to the Loving a Violent Offender forum, sweet-heart. I am sorry to hear what happened....

I'll be sure to do that thanks:thumbsup:

Sweet heart, welcome to PTO

Mine is considered a VO he was convicted of Murder 2nd degree trying to protect a 15 year old boy.


Welcome to the VO forum!! I am glad you found us!


Ann

Hey everyone I got a call from my husband today:drool:

Don't you just love those phone calls?

it was great I missed him so much. Can't beleive it's almost here:D

Mrs. Jackson -- I'm real excited for ya! I'll be praying for a great and safe return! Probably gonna go spring-cleaning crazy to make it "just right" for when he comes home. I know I'll do the same whenever our time comes!

Ya I made a list of everything that I need to do before he gets out.LOL I know he doesn't care but I want it to be just right ya know?

LOL!! This isn't the FC!!!! Please make a new thread or post in the Freedom cafe if you want to chat!!! This way everyone can know the good stuff!!!

hugs,
Ann

Sorry:)

LOL now I have to jump over to FC to hear "the rest of the story" :D

My father is a 1st time violent offender. It pains me to even reveal this. His incident happened suddenly and tragically, and we are all left wondering "what happened"? While my father literally lost his mind for this tragedy to occur, so many others commit violent offenses because of exposure in the home to anger, violence, and a failure to be taught to control their emotions. Whatever the circumstances, it all leaves us as family members in the same boat, doesn't it? One positive outcome, is that I am learning not to judge. I simply ponder what our society can do to prevent or reduce such offences. To all of you who are experiencing this in your lives, good luck to you. As I see it, it's not what happens to you in this life, it's about how you handle what you're faced with. xoxo

welcome to the Loving a Violent Offender forum MissUDad. I'm sure you will find that we are a great bunch of people who aren't hear to judge but to accept and help you through your plight with dealing with all the issues that come with loving someone who is convicted of a violent crime.

The reasons people commit violent offenses are numerous and hard to explain. They are as variable as people's faces. Some are taught to lash out with violence because they have been brutalized themselves, some see no alternative, some are blinded by their anger, some as you said: lose their minds, some just made a bad choice, the list goes on and on.

You are right we are all in the same boat regardless of why or the circumstances around the crime that was committed, no matter what, there was a victim, and now our loved ones are paying the consequences of their choice.

I'm glad that you're learning how to not judge, it's so easy to do until you find yourself in those people's shoes. I know it's opened my eyes to many things I would have never known or experienced before and I am a better, more accepting person because of it.

What our society can do to prevent violent offenses? Very little. Unfortunately humans are animals and animals hurt each other. We can try to be more peaceful and teach others how to be peaceful, but other than that there would have to be massive changes in our society as a whole and in the way people work and think on a global scale, which I do not see happening in our lifetime, or the next, which is really unfortunate.

Anyway, I hope you'll join us in our Freedom Cafe, where we all come to relax and talk about our days, it's really a fun place!

whiskey, very well said! I also welcome you MissUDad. I really can't add anything Whiskey didn't already say.

welcome to the Loving a Violent Offender forum MissUDad. I'm sure you will find that we are a great bunch of people who aren't hear to judge but to accept and help you through your plight with dealing with all the issues that come with loving someone who is convicted of a violent crime.

The reasons people commit violent offenses are numerous and hard to explain. They are as variable as people's faces. Some are taught to lash out with violence because they have been brutalized themselves, some see no alternative, some are blinded by their anger, some as you said: lose their minds, some just made a bad choice, the list goes on and on.

You are right we are all in the same boat regardless of why or the circumstances around the crime that was committed, no matter what, there was a victim, and now our loved ones are paying the consequences of their choice.

I'm glad that you're learning how to not judge, it's so easy to do until you find yourself in those people's shoes. I know it's opened my eyes to many things I would have never known or experienced before and I am a better, more accepting person because of it.

What our society can do to prevent violent offenses? Very little. Unfortunately humans are animals and animals hurt each other. We can try to be more peaceful and teach others how to be peaceful, but other than that there would have to be massive changes in our society as a whole and in the way people work and think on a global scale, which I do not see happening in our lifetime, or the next, which is really unfortunate.

Anyway, I hope you'll join us in our Freedom Cafe, where we all come to relax and talk about our days, it's really a fun place!
Well spoken Love!!! I agree!

:yes: Good job whiskey. Nothing to add. Just want MissUDad to know how good it is to have her and let her know that we are here for her. Nothing about doing time is easy, but being able to talk with those who do understand is a real help. Later. HUGS:) :grouphug: :)

HEY ALL...

Welcome MissUDad, and thank you for sharing your story. I am sorry you had to go through this. :( Whiskey said it all above, I believe..... Hugs and welcome to the VO forum!!!!

MissUDad!!! Welcome to the VO forum! I am glad you found us!!!!


penwife

my bf is considered a violent offender b/c during the crime he was involved in (armed robbery) his friend held a gun up to the guy they were robbing. i feel bad that because of this one mistake his friend made when they were 19, he will forever be labeled a violent offender. plus sentences are SOOO much stricter just b/c of the presence of a weapon!!! it's annoying, but what can you do?

i'm pretty new to this thread b/c i hadn't even previously realized he is labeled a violent offender.

Welcome neworleans!! Glad to have you here and sorry about your b/f's case. The mistakes that are made in life change so many lives. We invite you to hop on over to Freedom Cafe also....we have a great time and always welcome others to join our family!!

Patti

Hi my brother is considered violent. the situation was about 15 guys in his driveway busting out his car windows approaching the porch, while his 9 month old daughter and 5 yr. old sister cry inside his home, he shot a gun into a crowd , injuring 2 killing one. what would you do? he was trying to protect his familly, but the self defense law is that , a person has to be inside your home with intent to harm. go figure. now he's serving 18-40 years, he's been in for 11.

meximoniplayer.....I am so sorry about the incident with your brother. If you need a laugh, vent or what ever hop on over to Freedom cafe and join us there. Would love to have another face in the family!!

Patti

meximoniplayer.....I am so sorry about the incident with your brother. If you need a laugh, vent or what ever hop on over to Freedom cafe and join us there. Would love to have another face in the family!!

PattiHi, thanks for the welcome. I am glad I found this site. its great. And I've learned a lot from it.More than what the people working at the prisons tell us.And I can keep informed about things going on.

Hi, thanks for the welcome. I am glad I found this site. its great. And I've learned a lot from it.More than what the people working at the prisons tell us.And I can keep informed about things going on.

Yes, PTO is great for finding out info, but we are here to support you as well! I am sure you are going to find some good friends and have a few laughs along the way too!!!


Ann

Did anyone miss me:D

Of course we missed you!

Hi everyone. Glad to see new folks joining us. This a great site and it has been a life saver for me. Good thoughts and HUGS for everyone

WELL - IM CHECKING IN WITH MY FELLOW VO SUPPORTERS.

HAD A GREAT 3 DAY VISIT THIS PAST WEEKEND.

EVEN THOUGH WE COULDN'T CELEBRATE OUR FIRST ANNIVERSARY THE WAY WE WANTED - THE BEST PRESENT WAS JUST BEING WITH HIM.

THEY TOLD HIM HE WOULD START HIS CLASS IN JUNE - :mad: - AS OF THIS DATE - HE HASN'T STARTED YET.

EVERYONE HAVE A GREAT DAY.

MrsSunny, I am glad that you had a great visit!! Yes, just being able to be with a loved one is very important. Quality time talking is important! HAPPY FIRST ANNIVERSARY (a little late)!!

Patti

Just wanted to pop in and say hey to all my ladies. I hope everyone has a great weekend coming up.

hey there everyone, yeah i hear you all and it is sad that things happen the way they do. what ever happened to innocent until proven guilty? my husband is one of the sweetest men you will ever meet in your life. hes such a sweetie pie to everyone he meets. you look at him and seriously, you would think, why the hell are you here? he was convicted of robbery and took the rap for everyone. he dont believe in hitting anyone, kids, women noone. he doesnt even raise his voice for that matter. but because of what happened and the testimony of the so called "friend" he was given an extreme sentence. luckily he had a good attorney cause he got dropped from 55 years to 15. with gods wonderful grace he was given paperwork showing only 8yrs and hes been down now for 2+ already. still its not fair. even the officers and the parole people tell him he doesnt belong there. well god knows him and where his heart is and why he did what he did and we know we will get a blessing and miracle that will bring him home sooner than we both expect. god blesses those who serve him. :) well thanks for listening and god bless you all as he has us.

hello everyone, hope you all are doing well. hope you all are with your loved ones soon.

I have been on PTO for a while and never really looked at this VO posting before. My fiance is considered a violent offender, even though he is the biggest teddy bear. We were driving in my car and some crazy guy tried to run me off the road and was throwing stuff at my car because i threw a cigarette out the window. My man carried a gun because he lived in a rough neighborhood, and shot the guys tires out so he would stop chasing me. He was just trying to keep me safe. Little di we know that this crazy guy had his 3 year daughter in the back seat of the car. no one was hurt, but i guess the idea of the little girl in the car got to the DA and they sent him to prison, even though hes never had so much as a speeding ticket before. Well, using a gun is considered a violent offense, so my mans gotta do 85% of 3 years...:(

Maggie---welcome to the VO forum. Glad to have you with us. Please stop by often as you will get lots of support and love here!! If you ever have any questions please don't be afraid to holler. We will help in any way that we can.

Patti

Hi, Maggie! Welcome to this VO site. The gals here are really great. You will have all kinds of support.

My babys in jail for csc first degree and has a violent temper. I am the only one who can control his temper!!!

Hi mybabys! Welcome to the Loving a Violent Offender Forum! He comes home in 8 days? Your lucky! Has he taken anger management classes?

My boyfriend is still in county, has been for over a year now. He is being charged with Murder I. His trial keeps getting put off. The things I hear them say about him, on the news...in the newspapers...breaks my heart. I love him regardless and nothing will ever change that.

Hi Lucky1, welcome to the loving a Violent Offender forum! Unfortunately murder charges come with a price and that price is usually the media...they tend to make our loved ones out to be monsters when they aren't. Try not to pay mind to what they say about you boyfriend, you know who he really is...

Luck1 Hello my boyfriend got the same charge. Listen to your heart not to the news or even people in your neighborhood. You know you man!! For some reason people like to really kick you when your down, even your so called "friends". I'm really sorry your going through this, if you ever need to talk IM me any time. Good Luck

Lucky, do not stress on what others say. No ones knows the circumstnces except him and perhaps you if he chooses to share it. My husband is doing time for armed robbery. He was caught only once and he doing lots of time because of afterformers. The point is he WAS a violent offender. NOW he is paying a debt to society and the only way he lives through the nightmare life he is living now is to know that I and his children are out here and waiting with open arms. His crimes do not change the love he has for me or for his children. You know your man and he needs you to be at his side and be strong for him. We are here and we know what does not get said. We understand what society does not understand or want to know. Keep talking to us. These women are the best. They have seen me through some crazy days these last few months and they will be here for you. Later. HUGS:) :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :)

My husband is doing 2 15 to life concurrently for murder should have been manslaughter and he should have been out be now. Was in instant offense Do I love him? Without a doubt! He is an amazing man and I've found nothing on the outside to compare (not that I've been looking). The fact that it was a violent offense is what is keeping him in prison. Gotta love NY NOT. He is good to me, good to my children (who are not his) and I know that he has other female friends, but I am the one he loves and chose to marry. Yes, I married him while he's been incarcerated and it was the best thing I've ever done in my life. I have no regrets other than the fact he's not here with me to help me the daily trails and tribulations. I do get tiredof being the sole decision maker, but that is the way it has to be for now. I agrre with Ronnies Girl...His crimes do not change the love he has for me...

Hello and welcome to all of the new members!! I hope you come to our forum often to get to know us!


Ann

man is considered violent offender he shot into a carlot business that sold him a car motor went out 3 days lata went back 2 make a deal and klansmen attacked him he fired 3 times noone was hurt but still got 3 years parole hearing in 6 days completed sap,and 5 other calsses,1 displinary gettin fired fron job,home/job plan approved but has eos of april07,prayin 4 parole although eos is not far off!

Hi everyone. Glad to hear form you Ro . Ronnie called twice today and we are doing great. We will move to a new building on the site grounds next week. We are all praying that we wwill get weekend visits once the guys are moved and settled. Ronnie and I are hoping and praying that thsi unit manager is going to move Ronnnie off of seg. He 6 months clear conduct and makes level 3 the first of Sept. There are only 4 levels. Just keep us in your thougths and prayers and maybe some of this nightmare will end. HUGS and More HUGS to everyone. Later

Anytime a gun is used for any reason is usually considered a violent offense and that would tag a loved one as being a violent offender. My son had no guns but he knew their were guns and they were loaded which makes him just a guilty as the guy who held him. He is not a violent person, but committed a violent crime. so, I guess I love my son who is considered a violent offender!!

As far as freaking out at drivers and pulling out a gun because of their behavior is nonsense especially in your case where a child happened to be in the car. When people are angry they can say and do crazy things but being angry and holding a gun could have cost someone their lives.

Is a SO considered a Vo automatically??? Sorry for my non knowledge of this one. BLU

What is an SO? sorry for my lack of knowledge also.

My husband is considered a "violent offender". All he did was defend himself, but he is black and the "victim" appears to be white and his brother is a LT for the local police department where this occurred. The truth is the "victim" pulled out a butcher knife on my husband and he defended himself. For that he got 15 years, and I might as well have got it too, we can't have children while he is in prison!

What is an SO? sorry for my lack of knowledge also.

A SO is a sex offender by definition of the law.

The system has labled my fiance as a VO. He is not. He is just the type of person that does not liked to be backed against a corner and has to do what he has to do to see that we survive.

Is this in response to me? I have never once said what my fiance did was appropriate, it was a horrible decision and your right, it could have been much worse. my point isnt justifying his behavior, i am frustrated that someone can threaten and assault us, put his child in jeapordy first and foremost, and have no consequences. Now my fiance and I, who were put on the defensive by his actions, are paying a horrible price. I accept what has happened to my man, and he does too. but sometimes the justice system is so one sided. and as far as the child, there was no sign that anyone else was in the car. another fact of this case that is up for debate. i hate guns, i hate violence and i most of all hate how the united states "deals" with people that make mistakes.
Anytime a gun is used for any reason is usually considered a violent offense and that would tag a loved one as being a violent offender. My son had no guns but he knew their were guns and they were loaded which makes him just a guilty as the guy who held him. He is not a violent person, but committed a violent crime. so, I guess I love my son who is considered a violent offender!!

As far as freaking out at drivers and pulling out a gun because of their behavior is nonsense especially in your case where a child happened to be in the car. When people are angry they can say and do crazy things but being angry and holding a gun could have cost someone their lives.

Is a SO considered a Vo automatically??? Sorry for my non knowledge of this one. BLU

Depending on what type of sex offense it was, a SO can be considered a VO.

:love:My man is considered a violent offender. He is on Death Row. I love him to bits and feel no fear when I am with him.
Sometimes people get caught up in a moment and they lose control. It only takes a split second and then your life changes.
Remember, this can happen to any one of us.
I love my man dearly and to me he is the sweetest person in the world. :heart::)

My husband is considered a VO. He got caught up in the wrong thing and made some bad decisions along the way, but he is no where near violent. My man is like a big sweet teddy bear full of love and compassion. I love him to death. You are so right lovemyboo ppl can get caught up in a moment and lose control and your life changes forevever.

My man is considered a violent offender, and I can understand when lovemyboo says she feels no fear with her man. I love my man, and as afraid of him as some people are .. I feel nothing but safe and secure with him. Other people sometimes do not understand that whatever it is that they have done, that is not ALL that defines who these men are as people.

Yes, my man is considered a violent offender. He was convicted of a murder that he did not do. Of course if you say that to anyone outside of PTO they don't beleive it because they don't know him. I met him after he was in prison and I can tell that he couldn't murder anyone. I have people ask me all the time if I am afraid of him. How could I possibly be afraid of someone who shows me the love that he does. And if I were afraid of him why would I be with him? Someday all of these people will see just how much he cares for me and they will see what a good man he is.

HELLO, I GUESS MY MAN IS CONSIDERED A VIOLENT OFFENDER. MISSISSIPPI HAS HAD HIM SINCE 1984 AND SAY HE WANT COME UP FOR PAROL UNTIL 2015. WHAT WAS TO BE A BUGLARY WITH HIS BUDDY TURNED INTO A HOMICIDE WHEN HIS BUDDY STABBED THE WOMAN TO DEATH. THEY WERE DRUNK AND ALL DRUGGED OUT, BUT HE PLEADED "SIMPLE MURDER" SO HIS BUDDY (ON DEATH'S ROW) WOULD NOT GET THE ELECTRIC CHAIR IN MISSISSIPPI. EVEN THOUGH HE IS ON DEATH'S ROW, THE APPEALS WILL KEEP HIM ALIVE FOR YEARS. MY FAMILY THINKS I HAVE LOST MY MIND, BUT HEY! HE MAKES ME SO HAPPY AND ONE DAY HE WILL COME HOME TO ME. I'M GONNA STAND BY HIM AS LONG AS IT TAKES!

Hello and welcome to all of the new members!!!! It's good to have you in our forum!


Ann

i guess my man would be considered a VO he was charged with strong arm robbery but i really dont think he did it i know he has a temper but i just cant see him hurting anyone

i guess my man would be considered a VO he was charged with strong arm robbery but i really dont think he did it i know he has a temper but i just cant see him hurting anyone
mine is considered a violent offender. He has 2 strikes now one for home invasion and now one for assault with a deadly weapon. I love him with all my heart and he would never hurt me, but unfortunately when he drinks he has a violent side that has messed him up! however this time he was protecting a friend and got caught up in a huge mess with our county being so small and having nothing better to do.. I can say cuz I used to work for them.. it's politics sometimes, and completely ridiculous. he does not deserve prison at all... but what can i do but stand by him no matter what!!!

My son is considered a vo but he should have never been found guilty under what is called the "castle doctrine Law" here in fl but a jury found him guilty because of the hype and media attention it got. I hear now it is better not to have a jury also the public defender did not have my son testify and my son read that most jury hearing a case want to hear the defendant testify otherwise they think he/she is guilty.

hi the man that i love is considered to be a "MONSTER" and has been called that several times through the media i know what he did was awful but i also believe that people make mistakes and can be rehibilitated

hi the man that i love is considered to be a "MONSTER" and has been called that several times through the media i know what he did was awful but i also believe that people make mistakes and can be rehibilitated
I agree with you...no one in my opinion is beyond redemption.....

I guess u would say my man as a voilet offender but I dont think he is. He is a very good man.

my man is considered a violent offender. but to me he is the love of my life and i have no fear in being with him!! he will be home in 18 days!!! december 15th!

my man is considered a violent offender. but to me he is the love of my life and i have no fear in being with him!! he will be home in 18 days!!! december 15th!

that is awesome!!! I wish you both the best of luck!!!!



Ann

* violent offender bc he had a "gun" a plastic gun that is...................................and still got 5 1/2.

my bf got a felony dui with great bodily injury, is that considered a violent crime?

Waiting23, in the eyes of the law yes it is a violent offense. It's so difficult facing that "label" but we all know our loved ones and society is going to say what they want. Yes some did some pretty violent crimes, but it was all in the past and life goes on. It's very difficult at times but we keep going.
Welcome to PTO!! If you have any questions or anyway I can help please feel free to give me a holler!!!

Patti

yes he's "labeled" a violent offender, but hes the most kind hearted person i know. I dont understand the prison system. I thought they were correctional centers not label centers.. It jsut makes me so mad, they label them as convicts, bad people, a threat to the society (parole told him that), and anything else they can think of. What happend to CORRECTION.. they arent correcting the problem they just make it worse. Bryans in a drug treatment program that they call "The turning point" now that's what he needed 7 years ago and he prob. wouldnt have gone back...

my husband is also considered a v/o but i dont
care his my kids father and i love him.

my husband is also considered a v/o. he used is fists, so that got him 10 years with 85%.

My husband is also considered a violent offender (armed robbery). From how he explains the whole situation it wasn't exactly armed robbery. But by a gun being present, not even used, that 's what he was charged with.

Mine is also considered a VO, but to me he is very sweet, just got involved in a bad accident

I met my best friend through correspondence and he is a violent offender. One of the sweetest people I've ever had the pleasure of knowing and, yes, I love him with all of my heart.

My son is considered one, he overdosed and when they were trying to tie him down in the emergency room he spit on A cop. He ended up in ICU and now has heart damage. But it is on his record and will follow him.

My man is serving a 20 year sentence; on the brand new 10-20-life law in Florida. He is a first time offerender; he was high on drugs, his wife lured him to her house so they could serve papers on him, an argument insued and he fired a shot inside the residence, not even in her dirrection. She tried to leave in his truck and after throwing him off the side of the truck he fired three shots at the tires of the truck. He was charged with 1st degree Attempted Murder and covicted of the lesser charge of 2nd degree Attempted murder along with attempting to shoot within a dwelling (how does one attempt to shoot) the only bullet casing they found was the one in the kitchen sink. She testified against him at trial, and then at his sentenceing she told the judge she was never afraid of him, that he was not violent and she knew he would not hurt her.... Go figure.... Was it a violent crime ? yes, this is why he is considered a V.O... Here if there is ANY violence involved you are considered a VO, but I still love him, but then again I am a VO, I was charged with Aggravated Assault with a deadly weapon (knife) only difference is my victum refused to say he was in fear for his life. 2 seperate incidences, we met at the courthouse while we where both in custody. My charges where dropped, he's doing his time; and in 12 years we will begin a new life together..

:angry: CJ9600
Only in the great old United State of America can a man go off to a foreign country to fight in a war to defend his country and come back and not be able to afford to buy his son diapers. As far as I am concerned they should have given them to him and Thanked him for helping "US" retain our freedom. For me you can tall him I said "Thank You, for putting your life on the line for my freedom" :thumbsup:

DOC says he is a violent offender because he got jumped because he was messing around with some guys wife and they jumped him and someone got cut and they said he did it so he got a 4 flat his max is April something of 2008. I am tired of all this I tell him if he wasnt in the streets messing with all kind of women and not worry about me he would not be there. but my life was too boring because I work, go to school, and take care of my kids and my home....all that is boring..well it was boring now he is really bored! I been doing this for two years I am tired and I feel like his ways are causing me to be punished. so many times i thought about go my separate way but my heart is with his dumb *&^ and wont let me let go. so hopefully he learned his lesson because if not i wont do another bid..I wont..because if he loves me then he should not want to leave me and the kids behind no bs...sorry i had to vent i am really stressin these days.

mine too is a VO but has had no violance in 14 yrs:)

If the person being robbed thinks the gun is real, it is just as real in the charges as if it had been a real gun, robbery is always considered a violent crime. I was robbed with a toy gun but I did not know it was a toy at the begining of the robbery, only after the cops found the gun and told me. He was charged with armed robbery.

DOC says he is a violent offender because he got jumped because he was messing around with some guys wife and they jumped him and someone got cut and they said he did it so he got a 4 flat his max is April something of 2008. I am tired of all this I tell him if he wasnt in the streets messing with all kind of women and not worry about me he would not be there. but my life was too boring because I work, go to school, and take care of my kids and my home....all that is boring..well it was boring now he is really bored! I been doing this for two years I am tired and I feel like his ways are causing me to be punished. so many times i thought about go my separate way but my heart is with his dumb *&^ and wont let me let go. so hopefully he learned his lesson because if not i wont do another bid..I wont..because if he loves me then he should not want to leave me and the kids behind no bs...sorry i had to vent i am really stressin these days.

Its always a good thing to vents cause if you dont you hold things inside and you may snap at the wrong person .. I understand what you are saying my husband and i had this discussion already and he knows i wont do another bid cause i will never put my child thru this ordeal again this is hard on children

i am frustrated because i have to drive close to 6 hrs cost about $100 for expences turn around after visits and drive right home,and he don't understand the price of things now hes been away for 14 yrs,i try to tell him but its like talking to a wall,.i can only go 1 a month he ask how come grrrrr:mad: but says hun i do understand,.i'm disabled and on a very fixed income,no bus for me to take,.,

My boyfriend was charged with 1st degree assault, and got 6 years....he in the past year we have been talking, he never once disrespected me, or showed me any signs of any kind of violence, and i think they shouldn't label some people as violent, i know a couple LIFERS who killed, but still love their family and friends.

My husband is now registered as a violent offender. 1-10 ass/batt/gbh/less then murder. he was not only protecting his self but the friend who put him in the situation, he has M.S pretty bad and happen to have (from work) a box cutter in his back pocket, and when the bad guy with a know record of knifing people, pulled a weapon my husband was quicker. he was a golden glove boxer! it was either prison or be dead.

He went in on drug charges but since he's been in he's had numerous assault charges. The every day same thing life is starting to get to him, he just wanted to get out and do something different. :o

He told me he is a violent offender. He is in for Att. murder.

Same. A friend of mine is in for murder. He killed a family member.

If the person being robbed thinks the gun is real, it is just as real in the charges as if it had been a real gun, robbery is always considered a violent crime. I was robbed with a toy gun but I did not know it was a toy at the begining of the robbery, only after the cops found the gun and told me. He was charged with armed robbery.

this is my first time posting in this forum - it took me a long time to even be able to come in here ... i still have a hard time associating the word violent with my boyfriend. we've known eachother since we were 13 (24 now) and he's always been a strong stabilizing influence on me. three years ago i had moved to new york for work, and while i was gone he started hanging out with some new "friends". fast-forward a couple months and he's outta his mind on meth, standing in the parking lot of a gas station with one of his new buddies, holding a gun to this woman's head. the gun was fake, but he was charged with armed robbery which was pled down to assault w/ intent to commit armed robbery and he's currently serving 2-5. he's been clean the entire time since then, and i've never been scared of him, but lately i find myself trying to reconcile (sp?!) the man i know he is with the man that woman sees when she thinks about him. does anyone else do this??

this is my first time posting in this forum - it took me a long time to even be able to come in here ... i still have a hard time associating the word violent with my boyfriend. we've known eachother since we were 13 (24 now) and he's always been a strong stabilizing influence on me. three years ago i had moved to new york for work, and while i was gone he started hanging out with some new "friends". fast-forward a couple months and he's outta his mind on meth, standing in the parking lot of a gas station with one of his new buddies, holding a gun to this woman's head. the gun was fake, but he was charged with armed robbery which was pled down to assault w/ intent to commit armed robbery and he's currently serving 2-5. he's been clean the entire time since then, and i've never been scared of him, but lately i find myself trying to reconcile (sp?!) the man i know he is with the man that woman sees when she thinks about him. does anyone else do this??
I'm glad you have joined us! And honey I completely understand how you're feeling!:grouphug: I've done and still do the same thing even after almost 10 yrs. My son is doin LWOP for capital Murder and I know the child I raised wasn't the monster they talked about during his trial.It's very hard for me to understand why or how it came to this.In your case I think you have to understand that the man you care about and know isn't the meth addict the women came in contact with.Meth is a demon by itself. It takes control and turns the best of people into something worse then any nightmare you can dream of.Many hugs and prayers to you and your loved ones. I hope you join us more again welcome and thank you for sharing.

My boyfriend followed what became the "snitch" in this ordeal. He caught 10 years mandatory for strong armed robbery. He had a gun. Here in FL we have a 10 20 life and it sucks. my cousin is in for 25-life..Luckly my baby only has 4 years and 9 months left of it!!!!!

this is my first time posting in this forum - it took me a long time to even be able to come in here ... i still have a hard time associating the word violent with my boyfriend. we've known eachother since we were 13 (24 now) and he's always been a strong stabilizing influence on me. three years ago i had moved to new york for work, and while i was gone he started hanging out with some new "friends". fast-forward a couple months and he's outta his mind on meth, standing in the parking lot of a gas station with one of his new buddies, holding a gun to this woman's head. the gun was fake, but he was charged with armed robbery which was pled down to assault w/ intent to commit armed robbery and he's currently serving 2-5. he's been clean the entire time since then, and i've never been scared of him, but lately i find myself trying to reconcile (sp?!) the man i know he is with the man that woman sees when she thinks about him. does anyone else do this??

I don't think you can reconcile the person you know with the person he is on drugs.

They are like two different people.:(

My fiance is considered a violent offender. His best friend got into a fight and my fiance was at the wrong place at the wrong time. The guy's brother came looking for my fiance's friend and pulled a gun on my fiance and my fiance shot him and killed him. He truly regrets what happened, but it happened all the same. He was 21 at the time and was sentenced to 52 to life. He got his appeal and should be coming home very soon!

Wow Heavy's that's great!! How long has he been in? There had to be some awesome evidence to get a sentence like that turned around. How long have you been together? do we hear wedding bells in the near future when he gets out? :)

my man just informed me hes considered a violent offender. i laughed, because to me he is no where near. he was in a car accident where the driver of the other car was killed. now hes considered violent..for an accident. huh.. interesting. =)

i LOVE MY VO!

my husband was driving car with a passenger who had a gun on him a cop went to pull them over bc he claimed his lights were pointed the wrong way and my man didnt have a DL and knew this kid had a gun n didnt want him to drop it in the car n him eat the charge for it so he took off the kid dismantled it n threw out da window piece by piece them my man pulled over let him out the car n too k of again just to crash n get caught anyway.....long story short they gave the other kid a ticket for weed released him n started looking for the gun and then charged my husband with it...........not fair at all

I completely understand how you're feeling!:grouphug: I've done and still do the same thing even after almost 10 yrs. My son is doin LWOP for capital Murder and I know the child I raised wasn't the monster they talked about during his trial.It's very hard for me to understand why or how it came to this.In your case I think you have to understand that the man you care about and know isn't the meth addict the women came in contact with.Meth is a demon by itself. It takes control and turns the best of people into something worse then any nightmare you can dream of.Many hugs and prayers to you and your loved ones. I hope you join us more again welcome and thank you for sharing.

I'm new posting here, but I just had to comment on this. I completely understand how you feel. My son is a violent offender. He is in for 50 years for agg assualt w/a deadly weapon. This is the little compassionate boy that I raised for 18 years. I just couldn't understand what would make him go out there a hurt someone like he did. This was not the little boy that I raised, and hard drugs was not even involved with his crime. He just got rebellious as alot of 18 year olds do and somehow got mixed up the an older, experienced criminal and is paying dearly for 8 days of rebellion. He has been in prison for 13 years now and the way it goes here in Texas he may have to serve 1/2 of his sentence. That means he will be 43 years old when he gets out of prison. He's missed his whole life. It makes me so sad. Thanks for letting me share this. I never talk about this with anyone.

welcome Fishinana!! I'm glad you found us and can share with us. I used to think I was alone in what I was dealing with,but it's wonderful to come here and talk freely about everything good, bad, and sometimes unbearably. as a parent we are so used to fixing everything and holding ourselves accountable for any and every action our children do. All we can do is raise them the best we can and try to instill good. I refuse to believe that anyone would know how to handle the situations or loved ones were in and understand the ending results. Until you yourself walk in their shoes on the same path you have no idea what you would do. Sure you can believe you'd handle it differently,but until you are there???? All we can do is love and be there for our loved ones. Love and support the person not the actions that put them there.In Ms. where my son is they do 85% of their sentences,so I'll most likely be gone and he'll be up there in age if and when he goes before the board in hopes of being released.

My fiancee is considered a violent offender because of a manslaughter charge and att.aggravated assault but I am so in love with him. He is the sweetest man I have known on Earth.

Welcome miss murrill! Welcome fishiniana! It's great to see new faces! Just an update; call me CJ. My "inmate" is in for armed robbery, in MS. There's actually a few of us that deal with MS.
While I'm not happy that you and everyone here faces so many struggles because of prisons, I am grateful that you guys found PTO. Please join us anytime in the Freedom Cafe!

God Bless!!

I would like to welcome all the new faces to the Violent Offender forum. Society has a way of living by "labels". Society in general does not know our loved ones and placing such a horrible label on someone is their way of stereo-typing offenders. Circumstances happen and from one incident our loved ones will forever be labeled. We all know the real person and will continue loving them through the good, the bad and the ugly (the system).
Please feel free to holler if there is anything that I can do to help you with your transitions. My PM door is always open!!

PattiD1157
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Welcome miss murrill! Welcome fishiniana! It's great to see new faces! Just an update; call me CJ. My "inmate" is in for armed robbery, in MS. There's actually a few of us that deal with MS.
While I'm not happy that you and everyone here faces so many struggles because of prisons, I am grateful that you guys found PTO. Please join us anytime in the Freedom Cafe!

God Bless!!


Thank you CJ! Gosh! I love it here! Everyone is so sweet. It really helps to be here because all of you guys are just so helpful..WHATEVER I need to know..or if I have a question I can always come here!:thumbsup:

My baby is a "Violent" offender. I call him my Beast (he refers to himself as my lion:) ) I am the only person who can make him go to wanting to hurt someone to calm and relaxed in 3 seconds flat. His ex-cellie used to tell me that all the time!! ( Says' i can tame the lion) But now that he's so close to coming home, he has become a more accepting person. The only thing that gets him hot now is when someone talks crap to me or talks crap about me (cause im a very kind person and some people see kindness as weakness) But i still can calm him down.....hehehehe got him whooped :drool:

Bubbasgirl!

I know what you mean about taming the beast! Hubby used to get into fights alot, he never bullied anyone, but he refused to be disrespected. I would get calls from his various cellies letting me know that hubby was in the hole and that he was fine.
Now when hubby wants to fight he calls me first to see if I am cool with it! I just let him know that I support him in whatever he does and if he feels he has to fight then he has my blessing. Of course I would never tell him to fight....I just don't want that kind of power over anyone!

Ann

Bubbasgirl!

I know what you mean about taming the beast! Hubby used to get into fights alot, he never bullied anyone, but he refused to be disrespected. I would get calls from his various cellies letting me know that hubby was in the hole and that he was fine.
Now when hubby wants to fight he calls me first to see if I am cool with it! I just let him know that I support him in whatever he does and if he feels he has to fight then he has my blessing. Of course I would never tell him to fight....I just don't want that kind of power over anyone!

Ann
Back in the day my baby used to bully people. Claimed he never "robbed" just "strait up took their stuff" he was soooooo bad. But i made him good again :) yeah i get calls from other people too if hes not able to call me, be it from him in trouble (not here lately--knock on wood) or from the stupid phones being messed up! I like having that kind of power over him, like i said.............got him whooped :drool:

My hubby is geting too old for fighting anyway, he's been down for 24 years now and has earned his respect...thankfully he doen't have to fight for it any longer.
Hubby never stole from anyone. He plays it straight from the old code of the convict....respect and be respected. But I always say each person has to serve their own time n their own way....no judgements here!

My guy is considered a violent offender also (40 counts alleged attempted murder and the rest) He is the most sweetest gorgeous guy ive ever known,and will always be my special guy :)

The love of my life is classified as a VO. He's serving Life for murder. He's been incarcerated since age 18. But he's definately not violent! I know some may think I've lost my mind with that statement...but i would've NEVER believed it after I got to know him! He's the most gentle, sweet, compassionate man I've ever encountered (& I've encountered a few). When I first met him (through a PP site) I knew he was in for murder...but never asked him anything about it. I figured that would come in his own time. I wanted to give him a chance for the person he is...not run away because of something he may have done in the past. I've often said..."A split second decision can change your life...& it's final". One bad (horrible)decision doesn't mean you're a monster. I have people ask me all the time if I'm scared or think he could ever hurt me (or anyone else). ABSOLUTELY NOT! It's a shame that with sentencing & parole considerations...they can't see past the crime...to see the true person.

My fiance is doing two to three years for AWDW. The charge was dropped from AWDW with intent to kill to just AWDW. Otherwise, he would have been facing 40. I hate that he has to be gone but oh my god, it could be so much worse.

Hello Yasha!! (love your username) Welcome to the VO forum! You are so right! It could of been alot worse!!


hugs,
Ann

The love of my life is classified as a VO. He's serving Life for murder. He's been incarcerated since age 18. But he's definately not violent! I know some may think I've lost my mind with that statement...but i would've NEVER believed it after I got to know him! He's the most gentle, sweet, compassionate man I've ever encountered (& I've encountered a few). When I first met him (through a PP site) I knew he was in for murder...but never asked him anything about it. I figured that would come in his own time. I wanted to give him a chance for the person he is...not run away because of something he may have done in the past. I've often said..."A split second decision can change your life...& it's final". One bad (horrible)decision doesn't mean you're a monster. I have people ask me all the time if I'm scared or think he could ever hurt me (or anyone else). ABSOLUTELY NOT! It's a shame that with sentencing & parole considerations...they can't see past the crime...to see the true person.

You are so right that split second can change your life forever, and define who you are in the eyes of others. You may have led a life of being quiet and calm but once something like this happens ppl begin to talk without even knowing what was going on in that person head at the time of it happening.

It's been almost a year since I checked in. Hope all is good with everyone. My husband will be going to the board (2nd appearance) next May 08.
I agree with Suthrndreamgirl and e_wife a split decision can change your life cause it sure changed ours. However, he's doing so many positive things to help improve himself and get ready when he comes home. But I often wonder if that's enough for the board to set him free.
This can and is so overwhelming at times. I've been doing this so many years and I'm not saying that if they don't give him the chance at freedom that I'm going to abandon him, all I'm saying is that I sometimes get tired of him being over there, while I'm over here.

Hello Yasha!! (love your username) Welcome to the VO forum! You are so right! It could of been alot worse!!


hugs,
Ann
Thanks! :D

It's been almost a year since I checked in. Hope all is good with everyone. My husband will be going to the board (2nd appearance) next May 08.
I agree with Suthrndreamgirl and e_wife a split decision can change your life cause it sure changed ours. However, he's doing so many positive things to help improve himself and get ready when he comes home. But I often wonder if that's enough for the board to set him free.
This can and is so overwhelming at times. I've been doing this so many years and I'm not saying that if they don't give him the chance at freedom that I'm going to abandon him, all I'm saying is that I sometimes get tired of him being over there, while I'm over here.


Sweetie that is normal to feel this way. What it is, is that we see the exceptional person our loved ones are and cant understand how others (board) cant see how much they are doing to better themselves. I do think that saying hope for the best but expect the worst was created for situations like ours.

Yep, I am madly inl ove with a man that is considered a Vo. (Charged with attempted murder, robbery, ordering murders, organized crime activity) all that aside he is such a muffin with me.

Yep, I am madly inl ove with a man that is considered a Vo. (Charged with attempted murder, robbery, ordering murders, organized crime activity) all that aside he is such a muffin with me.

Welcome to the Forum

My husband is considered a VO under Oregon Measure 11 (BS) Law. Robbery in the 1st degree. Robbing a drug house, LOL.
I guess that what these corporations are doing (robbing money from hardworking employees) isnt a big deal. Or how about the offender who has spent 20 years off and on in prison for various crimes. Who is to say he is any less violent than some of the inmates listed as violent. How about these sexual predators who are meeting our being caught by Dateline NBC, "To catch a predator".

Let me quit! I could go on and on.

The love of my life is under the category of VO because he robbed a bank armed!!

My man committed 1st degree murder when he was 18, so he's obviously considered a VO.

Hello to all of the newcomers!

You are all welcome in the VO forum!

Ann

I guess my honey is considered a VO after having read the guideline of a VO. I guess I was just being so blindsided that I didn't want to admit to myself that he actually fell under that category. My honey is in for Robbery in the 1st degree, has served a min of 14 years of a 14 to 29 yr sentence, he will be seeing his first board soon and hopefully will be home in time for his first Christmas in ages.

laflor....isn't it amazing how society "labels" people? Someone that we know as kind, loving and compasionate is seen as a monster in other's eyes. It's good seeing you here.....hope to see you all over the boards. :)

Patti

Yes I'm in Love with a violent Affender. My hubby was arrested under Aggravated Assualt and Aggravated Battery. But plead to a less charge of Domestic Battery.

Yes, I too was in love with a violent offender. Why, who knows! I still haven't been able to figure it out. When I do though, I'll let everybody know!!

My dear friend (and childhood sweetheart) is serving 17 more of 20 years for a third strike. I visited him for the first time last month, and we talked about the specifics of his crimes, and I was a little taken aback, honestly - he has been violent to men and women alike (robbery & assault)- it is hard for me to believe he's done the things he's done. His behavior was inexcusable and completely criminal, and society should be protected from behavior like that: I can't/don't make any excuses for him. But 20 years?!
Putting things in context, he was using when he committed his crimes, and not in his right mind. Further, this is a very troubled man, whose father killed his mother when he was an early teen, which is what led him, I believe, to wanting to detach and escape from reality via drugs and alcohol; although he came from a relatively stable and middle class family (with resources) he never really did get any help for the trauma he experienced upon discovering his mother's body: his care was kept within the family, and therapy wasn't mandated.
To this day, he has very mixed feelings about his father, who he strongly resembles and identifies with, though he doesn't come visit him because he hated his own 18 month prison sentence (for 'manslaughter' in the killing of his mother) and can't bring himself to return to under any circumstance.
I think it is important to remember that violent offenders were often victims first, like this man. Also, since we've gotten 'tough on crime,' charges are often escalated to the worst, so that resisting arrest becomes assault, etc.
On top of that, his story has underscored the fundamental racism of the system for me:
His father (Black) served 18 months for killing his mother (also Black) ~ Black men typically serve less time for killing Black women than White women, and this case is no exception - check the stats, the justice system(shamefully so) places a higher value on the loss of the lives of White women, not so much so Black women.
Additionally, my friend has received long sentences for his crimes of robbery, burglary, and assault - since age 15 he has received no psychological help, and since age 19 he has spent only 7 months at the most out of prison/jail. I find it a bit ironic that his father served 18 months for killing his mother, and he is serving 20 years for beating up a convenience store clerk and assaulting a woman in an attempt to obtain her car, due to the 3-strikes law in WA state.
According to WA state DOC, he's a violent offender; and on paper, I have to admit, he looks like a really dangerous person~ but if you know his story, you know he needs help more than anything, though he's done wrong, to be sure.
Unfortunately, the prison system doesn't provide help- lately, they aren't about rehabilitation - they're about punishment and incarceration for the crimes committed, not about rehabilitation or healing for why the crimes are committed, the source of the problematic behavior...
Our society has become detached from the reasons for psychopathic behavior; we just blame people for doing bad things, end of story, and don't take context into account, and lock them up, end of story.
I think that is all I have to say on this, thanks for listening,
Shann

Shannster! Hello and welcome to the violent offender forum. I know you will find support and understanding within this forum.


Ann

Shann, that is a truley touching story. I too, love a very violent offender, he did some truely unspeakable things. Some of which scare the hell (sorry) out of me, seriously. Like, he got accused of something so horrible (before i met him), which i will not say, but i will say it was NOT anything against a child. Which he was found not-guilty. He admitted doing it to me before i found out the specifics, and I was like, thats horrible. Then when i picked up his legal box i found out the details of the crime, and it scared me to the core. He said it was an accident. Even so, it horrified me. I know it was like a long time ago, but the family of that victim got no justice. I mean he is serving 30 years for his original crime, but not for that one. He wasn't the only one involved in that crime, but still!

I love a VO as a friend, and we've just begun seeing each other, though he has been released. I knew from the get-go the details of why he was in, and I'm okay with it, since he was up-front and didn't instigate the event.
I'm new to the forums, and will discuss this more elsewhere

One of my best friends since high school is in for murder and my ex-husband is in for capital murder. He's a lifer. We grew up together, though, and not one time did I ever see his temper flare in the world. Go figure.
Both of these men have learned a lot in prison, though. I wish there were more programs teaching kids the kind of coping and working mechanisms out in the real world before they get into this kind of trouble to begin with.

I wish there were more programs teaching kids the kind of coping and working mechanisms out in the real world before they get into this kind of trouble to begin with.

I have to agree with you 100% on this. I would love to start a program for troubled kids to help them find resources that will improve their lives and help them through the stumbling blocks. It seems that things with kids have gotten so much worse as time goes on. I don't ever remember "way back" when I was in junior high and high school the anger issues being what they are today, but then the drug usage wasn't what it is today either. I don't know I guess I just wish that there was an easy fix to the kids of today. It is so sad. Who knows, maybe with my senior research project for college I could maybe see what kind of options might be there to offer the younger ones.

Hi all, my friend that I write to now is a man that I dated before I married. He is considered a VO, charged with first degree murder and plead to manslaughter with the beating death of another man. I don't know details except what I read in the paper at the time of the trial and don't care to know right now. He'll tell me when he is ready.

So, it's funny I've been all over PTO with my ex husband and now find myself writing another inmate. He is my friend and in the future who knows what else. Too fresh out of my marriage for that discussion.

my son is a vo---that's what he is charged with anyway..a few years back, he was with a couple of other boys..doing drugs, and one of the boys pulled a pellet gun on an attorney !!!!! the judge charged them all with a 10yr. sentence--serving 85%---he was arrested at 17 yrs. old, a month before his 18th birthday. he is 22 now. he still has 2 yrs. to go !! one of the boys got out a couple of years ago---go figure !!!

my son is a vo---that's what he is charged with anyway..a few years back, he was with a couple of other boys..doing drugs, and one of the boys pulled a pellet gun on an attorney !!!!! the judge charged them all with a 10yr. sentence--serving 85%---he was arrested at 17 yrs. old, a month before his 18th birthday. he is 22 now. he still has 2 yrs. to go !! one of the boys got out a couple of years ago---go figure !!!

welcome to the VO forum....glad to have you here!!!

Ann

My fiance Jason is considered a Violent Offender. They gave him attempted murder.

Welcome to our forum, Jessica! You will find alot of understanding and support here!


Ann

I stumbled across this form, I never actually thought about it but....yes my husband is considered a violent offender! Thinking about him in that way leaves me kinda speechless because he is in no way violent. He won't even kill a bug, maybe a fly but nothing else. He does not raise his voice and doesnt like swearing (well from me or the kids). He is a lifer and he is respected but I never question him about that.
His charges do not make sense to me or anyone else who knows of them. Kidnapp for ransom, charged with having a gun, no one saw a gun, never had one, victim stated she packed for her kidnapping, vodka, kula, makeup bag, walked around outside by the co-defendants car waiting for him to come out so they could go to her kidnapped place.....??? OK.... boy said he was beat in the face to a pulp and hit in the forehead with a car club he never saw before ???? No trama to face.... police officer who spoke with him the next day said "he was tweaking" Go figure..... For this he has LIFE :mad:
Only in California can a criminal put someone in prison for life.....

Marc was charged with murder and plead down to Assault with a Deadly weapon with intent to kill.....major BS...but I suppose they consider him a violent offender....I am just curious to see how many of us are in love with such "violent creatures!!!" LOL...I love my VO!
~Katie
I am a violent offender. Before I went to prison, I was an eye doctor here in OK. A person with a record of hurting children was hurting my 5 year old child and I could not find anyone to make it stop. I went to EVERYONE and no one would do a damn thing. I did it myself. I received a 45 year sentence and I did it in 15. It cost me my license, freedon, my home, and life itself. what was I do to? Let them kill him? But that is ok. I took care of the problem by throwing a microscope on the situation. No one was hurt but it still made the abuse stop. I paid dearly for trying to save my child when no one would do a thing about it. They damn sure did something about the contract I put out with a shooter. Before that, I had never even had so much as a parking ticket. Anyone and everyone can be a violent person if the right button is pushed. Mine is hurting helpless people and those unable to protect themselves. Even mother Theresa would be violent given the right circumstances. It all depends on that those are.
Tony

syzygy
welcome to the vo form...I'm very sorry to hear you were put in the position you were in with no help. I know that is in its self must have been nightmare.
You will find so many wonderful, supportive people on this form...

I am a violent offender. Before I went to prison, I was an eye doctor here in OK. A person with a record of hurting children was hurting my 5 year old child and I could not find anyone to make it stop. I went to EVERYONE and no one would do a damn thing. I did it myself. I received a 45 year sentence and I did it in 15. It cost me my license, freedon, my home, and life itself. what was I do to? Let them kill him? But that is ok. I took care of the problem by throwing a microscope on the situation. No one was hurt but it still made the abuse stop. I paid dearly for trying to save my child when no one would do a thing about it. They damn sure did something about the contract I put out with a shooter. Before that, I had never even had so much as a parking ticket. Anyone and everyone can be a violent person if the right button is pushed. Mine is hurting helpless people and those unable to protect themselves. Even mother Theresa would be violent given the right circumstances. It all depends on that those are.
Tony

Man I completely understand where you are coming from! If someone was hurting my child, i would instantly become a violent offender. Nobody will mess with my kids and get away with it.

Welcome to PTO! :grouphug:

I am a violent offender. Before I went to prison, I was an eye doctor here in OK. A person with a record of hurting children was hurting my 5 year old child and I could not find anyone to make it stop. I went to EVERYONE and no one would do a damn thing. I did it myself. I received a 45 year sentence and I did it in 15. It cost me my license, freedon, my home, and life itself. what was I do to? Let them kill him? But that is ok. I took care of the problem by throwing a microscope on the situation. No one was hurt but it still made the abuse stop. I paid dearly for trying to save my child when no one would do a thing about it. They damn sure did something about the contract I put out with a shooter. Before that, I had never even had so much as a parking ticket. Anyone and everyone can be a violent person if the right button is pushed. Mine is hurting helpless people and those unable to protect themselves. Even mother Theresa would be violent given the right circumstances. It all depends on that those are.
Tony


I too agree with this, if someone was causing any kind of harm to my child and no one was willing to help, then i would have to protect my child by myself.

Originally Posted by syzygy
I am a violent offender. Before I went to prison, I was an eye doctor here in OK. A person with a record of hurting children was hurting my 5 year old child and I could not find anyone to make it stop. I went to EVERYONE and no one would do a damn thing. I did it myself. I received a 45 year sentence and I did it in 15. It cost me my license, freedon, my home, and life itself. what was I do to? Let them kill him? But that is ok. I took care of the problem by throwing a microscope on the situation. No one was hurt but it still made the abuse stop. I paid dearly for trying to save my child when no one would do a thing about it. They damn sure did something about the contract I put out with a shooter. Before that, I had never even had so much as a parking ticket. Anyone and everyone can be a violent person if the right button is pushed. Mine is hurting helpless people and those unable to protect themselves. Even mother Theresa would be violent given the right circumstances. It all depends on that those are.
Tony


thank you for your post, Tony. What a horribly sad story. Please know that we are here to support you if you need us.


hugs,
Ann

My man was convicted of 3 counts of first-degree murder, 27 years ago, when he was a practicing alcoholic. Yet he is the most gentle, loving, respectful, and spiritual man I have ever known! I am truly blessed to know him and I love him deeply!

My man was convicted of 3 counts of first-degree murder, 27 years ago, when he was a practicing alcoholic. Yet he is the most gentle, loving, respectful, and spiritual man I have ever known! I am truly blessed to know him and I love him deeply!

Hello and welcome to the VO forum!!



Ann

My mother is being charged with attempt first degree murder and aggravated assault. She has been sick for a while. I love her with every bit of me. I just want her to get better, but jail is only making it worse. It hurts so much.

My mother is being charged with attempt first degree murder and aggravated assault. She has been sick for a while. I love her with every bit of me. I just want her to get better, but jail is only making it worse. It hurts so much.

I am so sorry you and your mom are going thru this. Is she taking
medication while in jail? If not is she supposed to be taking medication?
I would have her atty check into her condition and take the appropriate steps to getting her the medical attention she needs.
If you want to talk i am here for you.


Hugs,
Ann

We were told that if she were to be put on medicine, that the family would have to pay for it. Is this incorrect? She is still in county jail. And the doctors there don't seem to help much. I don't know what else we can do.

What is atty?

She was diagnosed with type 2 bi polar and PTS years ago and has not been on medication for years.

atty is my lazy way of typing attorney!

I am not sure what the laws are in each state but it would seem to me that since she is a ward of the county she should be taken care of by that county. I would definately take this up with her lawyer!


Ann

chris is a v/o second degree murder

Salem, welcome to the VO forum. Please know that if there is anything that we can help with, even if it's just a shoulder on the lonely nights....we are here. It's nice to have you here but I am sorry that it's under the circumstances that are in front of all of us.

Patti

hes considered a vo whos serving a 14 month sentence for assault 2. Its a weird situation because I know that if I were him and being charged at with a knife I would have done the same thing.

My Man Committed His Violent Offenses Back In 87 Then In 93 He Has Spent His Entire Adult Life In Prison Except For When He Was Paroled In 93 For 4mths. He Has Gotten 4 Flops His Erd Was 2003 And He Just Recieved Another Flop Friday.

D

I agree most are not violant offenders,.but the system is not concidered violant when they beat them down with night sticks when they are shackled or cuffed because they harrassed them so much they lose control finely,,plus needless to say the mental abuse they hand out.,:angry:

My Man Committed His Violent Offenses Back In 87 Then In 93 He Has Spent His Entire Adult Life In Prison Except For When He Was Paroled In 93 For 4mths. He Has Gotten 4 Flops His Erd Was 2003 And He Just Recieved Another Flop Friday.

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what are flops?

My husband is considered a violent offender
he was convicted of 2nd degree murder by his hands
his hands are also regester as a lethal wepon

Bernadette!

Welcome to the VO forum!! I've seen your posts in the lifer forum but it's good to have you here as well!!

Why are your husbands hands registered as lethal weapons? Does he know Karate?

hugs,
Ann

what are flops?

I believe that "flops" are parole denials with a certain amount of time attached until he can be reconsiderd for parole again.

Hope that's right!!

Ann

My husband is a violent offender. He is doing 4 years for "assault 2nd on L/E, apprehension". It says in the deputies statement "no bruise, no redness, no medical treatment". So he's going to be locked up and forever labeled a v/o because while handcuffed he kicked at a deputy. (I was there so I know he isnt making it sound better than it was) It was wrong, he broke the law and thats where we are.
Interesting that he has no other charge for that night, not even the one he was originally being arrested for when he kicked at the deputy.
Unfortuanely he was on probation for Assault 2nd and had 1 year to go when arrested so the probation is for now suspended..I guess we will see what happens with that.
I cant say like the others that he isnt violent..his record says he is but I have never felt safer in my life than when I am with him.
We met when I was 19, married when I was almost 23...we have 4 great kids (13, 12, 9, 8).

My husband will be considered a violent offender if he gets convicted, aggravated battery causing great bodily harm! His trial is in October. But the guy that got beat up is a drug dealer, and he fled the hospital, so knowone knows where he is. So his charges could be dropped. My husband is ppretty young, and hes been in jail for four months. He has definitly had a change of heart since all this has happened. Once he get's out I have no worries of him going back to this type of thing.

Tiffany! Welcome to the VO forum!



hugs,
Ann

yes mines is too !!

How to deal with the reality of a loved one as a violent offender:
It's really hard for me, I know the newspaper version of what happened via the internet. My boyfriend and I live on opposite coasts, so I knew something was up when I couldn't get his cell and no im's. Three weeks later I email a friend of his on myspace and he says yeah it's hard to get a hold of him right now cause he's in jail. I try to stay calm and then I ask are we talking months or years and he still doesn't tell me beyond we don't know yet. So I let my fingers do the walking and find the article. I cringe trying to figure out ok so how is it that I am this invested with someone who could do what the article says. Over the past couple of months he has been the strong one helping me stay grounded with family issues. So I'm trying not to lose my mind everyday by trying to find information that might make it seem less dire than it is. By being long distance, I already am adapted to not seeing him; once every six months or so, but I have always been able to contact him. I am well aware of his opinions and beliefs on murder; not necessarily a religious stance but definitely a spiritual stance. And so because he's still awaiting trial I can't get all the info I need like WTF were you thinking and I'm trying to be as supportive as I can. We've had many discussions on guns, I'm against they're use unless direly warranted, but I know in my heart that for him to use one it had to be necessassary. The problem is I know him, 12 strangers won't and no matter how noble he is I also know that life just isn't that cut and dry. So for the few family/friends I had to tell cause I was loosing it they are like what is wrong with you, but I have all the memories of the honest, chiviralous man in my head. He also would not have been able to handle the situation with his hands because he has a black belt and it would have been considered attempted murder or murder if it went too far. That kind of justifies in my head why he shot the person instead of using his hands, and the location was due to him not wanting to kill them but get his point across without permanently disabling the person. So I have all that in my head without any verification on his part as of now, but I'm still hanging. Knowing that I can't live without him or with him in my life, but also knowing without any real info as far as how much time we're talking about if I'm willing to give up any chance for myself to live my life. So I'm just in limbo right now trying to dream and wish he had called me before walking out his door.

I do...:(

Hey all. This is my first post, I am brand new to this site! My friend Luis whom I love very much is a violent offender. He just got sentenced today to 10 years, not sure what prison yet. He was convicted of his 5th felony against another person, so they got tired of giving him chances.

My man lost his appeal and has been convicted of a felony of domestic battery in the 3rd degree. :(

MY husband is considered a vo and I love him with all my heart . He not so violent he just don't take bull from noone and he a big man and not scared to say what he feel but with me he is all heart I love my Husband and will always love him 89 more days left and he out again YESSSSSSSSSSSSS

My boyfriend is considered a violent sex offender in the state of Virginia. However, all he did was visit a girl he met on the Net who said she was 19 and happened to be 13. They never even had sex.

My man is also considered VO ( Intent to cause Grevious bodily harm) love him ta bits

Ye, my dear is considered a VO.

Yes, mine is listed as VO. But we're trying to get it off his record. Not going to be easy, but keeping the faith!

My husband is a VO this is his second conviction

My dear childhood friend is a violent offender serving 10+ years, due out in 2023. He's spent the majority of his adult life in prison...now he is doing a 3rd strike term, there's no pleading, no good time...just time...and its hard. I just try to be there for him, don't know what else I can do.

Usually when someone ask what my husband did, I say He broke the law, lol. But, he was charged with 2nd degree murder. Yes, he did it. It was a bar fight that went too far and he got 16 yrs and today was his 9th year in. No need to go into details... it really doesnt matter either way he has to do the time. Even though the man didnt die till later after he was jumped AFTER the fight he had with my husband. The victim was white, my husband is black and the guy that robbed him and stomped his head into the ground was white.... of course the white guy got off with PROBATION!!!!!

welcome to the VO forum ladies!!! I am sure you will find support and understanding here!

Ann

My baby is regd as a vo but to me he is nothing but a sweet caring man towards me and his son an i love him to bits

A BIG HELLOOOOO from Chicago!

When my husband is released, he will have to register as an SO..(Transp of a minor) The judge slapped him with many after release restrictions and limitations...one of them....is registering as a VO as well as an SO. No gun, no physical harm...nothing to indicate violence, no force. (Minor did not present in court, nor was there ever a Victim Impact Letter or statement, and victim stated in a deposition that it was consensual with no fear or threat of any bodily harm...But the judge does not read the discovery) No evaluation...nothing! No reason... Public Defender said, "The judge is airing on the side of caution, because of a previous case where another SO on moved to their state and brutally killed a kid" (And the Public Defender did not object to this enhancement.) This came out of left field...my husband had no knowledge that the judge can set limitations, let alone this type of limitation. Not part of the plea agreement.

Is there something we can do about this? Defender said he will have to work with the Probation Officer to remove it once after he is released. I think that's too late.

Any advice is appreciated.

yea my bf is just recently named a "violent offneder." its a scary title, i m not gonna lie! but i have been with him abuot 5 yrs... itss too bad one BIG mess up can screw you so bad! this will follow him forever... it makes me sooo angry!

My husband is a considered a VO and procecuted with the violent crimes task force. So he got max time no deals. He really wasnt "violent," but anytime you do a bank robbery it is considered violent strong arming.

My BF was accused of murder and it was plead down to assault with a deadly weapon. i met him after he got out and he is a real nice guy but boy has a bad temper.

:angry: mine has been in for 15 yrs no violance few tickets for weed but thats it and keeps getting refused parole,.,

my guy is considered a vo. very young at incarceration.....life circumstances
lead him where he is Alot of anger. People who do not know how to deal with anger in a positive way will vent it some way!! I Love him deeply and he has grown alot!

My husband is a violent offender he did his crime when he was 14 he didnt get caught until he was 19 well hes still in prison for that I met him in prison I didnt know people were so hard on teenage violent offenders well in N.Y but not in N.C

Hello and welcome to all of the new VO members!!!

I hope you come around often for support and understanding!


Ann

I joined a while back, may have posted months ago, but then disappeared for a while. My mother is a VO. Somedays it is very hard to swallow that fact. But I love her and will stand by her side. She was just sentenced on the 4th. 18 years for attempt murder first degree and aggravated assualt.

my man is considered a VO
who woulda thought...

My husband, Jody, is supposdely really volient. One count of assualt on a police office, one assult and battery and armed robbery.

But this man rubs (well rubbed) my feet everynight after work, cooked cleaned worshipped me..Seriously I'm a spoiled woman :P b/c of him. Never a hint of temper around me, I've known him most of my life to.

My boyfriend and his best friend have not been sentenced yet, they are still in county but the biggest charges they have are robbery in th 1st. They are not violent at all, they just made a stupid choice.

My son is considered a VO because he had a loaded gun hidden in his perfect place in his car. He never used the gun for any crime, but because it was a loaded gun he got 5 years. Has to do 80% of it.

My Baby is considered a violent offender. But to me he's my big teddy bear :)

My man is considered a VO, but he is teddy bear with me, he even goes out of his way to not even get upset or frusterated around me (like when someone else does or says something that upsets him) he just says "babe, im kind of in a bad mood and i dont want you to see me like this, ever, your too great to ever have any type of negitiveness in your life". he is so good to me!

To the DOCS my hubby is a VO but to me he is my husband, the man I was with before this crime, and after... he hasn't disassociated himself with the crime however he doesn't talk about it that often. Actually at all. We discussed it early into the sentence but since then it has dwelled off. He tells me that he has dreams though....

My man is considered a v.o. to the courts but to me and everyone he is my husband. Like a few of the other men I read about on here my man Cooked everynigt, Vacummed everyday, cleaned the restroom, mopped the floor, took care of our youngest son every single day didn't let just mom do it, and did so much more grocery shopped pushed the cart and handed over his paycheck to for the rent. That is why I <3 MY HUSBAND and I stand by him....

Yeah, my boyfriends considered a VO. His on remand at the mo, his final charge depends on whether the man pulls through or not. It's not really sunk in with me yet, his never raised a hand to me and is fantastic with my son. I can and will only judge him by the person i know, not his convictions. I love him.

My husband is a VO (1st degree attempted murder, down to first degree assault). He was sentenced to 12 and a half. Gets out in 8. He has only been in for a month. He also spoiled me rotten. Back/foot rubs almost daily. Cleaned, remodeled our house, worked his ass off. He lost his mind one night in a chemical induced state and hurt me really bad. I am better now because I finally have gotten to talk to him and tell him I forgive him and will support his recovery every step of the way. Can't say I can count down days yet, still years, but thank God everyday for him. I still love him as much as I did on our wedding day.:D :blush:

I commend each and every one of you. My hubby isn't a VO, however he has Life... I work Criminal Appeals and sometimes I judge the defendants, especially the Vo's... I pray to ask God to help me, but when my hands get to a case, it's at the very end and I'm seeing what took place (whether the defendant did it or no). I... just... know that all of you love your loved ones... and it cannot be easy... but please (and I don't use that term loosely, at all) know that I am in your corners and you are all in my prayers... I give you all mad props! I could NEVER do what ya'll do everyday and I'm not just saying that for show. I have so much respect for you all, please... I just wish things were different for ALL OF US HERE ON PTO...
Love ALL YA'LL!
-Delphine :o

My man is considered a VO. But with me he is such a softy.

My fiance is servfing life for stealing a walkman, he never killed anybody. He on the other hand was a robber. Never ever hurt anybody in any of his crimes. Hey maybe he killed the walkman, since you can't buy them anymore.......:p Yeah thats a violent crime alright! Wow!!! It was 3 strikes for stealing a walkman - and that was the end of the walkman I guess!!!! Maybe somebody will steal the IPOD next and kill it.....hehehehehe!

This is crazy and really not funny but it is such a ridiculous sentence that it makes me crazy!!!!!:angry: So ya gotta laugh don't you??????

Crying in California 3 strikes land!!!!! Were the sun is suppose to always shine!!!! Yeah right!

My (ex) boyfriend is a VO, he did a stretch of 10 years for attempted murder, during a fight he stabbed somebody. When he got out we met thru a friend. We were together about 3 years and he was out with friends and got into a fight (again) it was on 4th of July, there were people all over, so there were like 18 witnesses that saw him kicking this guy when he was already unconsious. He left that scene and went across the street to the apartments where he friends were at and got into another fight with a guy mouthing off about the way he parked in the alley. The mouthy guy was a wrestler and pinned my boyfriend down till the police arrived. When the cops got there and told the guy to let him up, he went after the guy.
They cops got him into the cop car then he kicked the window out of the cop car. He had a charge of Assult with intent to do great bodily harm, (for the first guy) He got a charge of battery (the second guy) obstruction of justice (for getting glass on the cops and resisting the arrest) He had three strikes going into court already, but the attorney got one of them stricken, so he maybe had a chance..
The jury found him guilty on all three charges and gave him 25 to life on each charge, he suspended one of them, so he had a base term of 50 to life. Then he gave him 16 years in enhancments for prison priors. 64 to life.
I guess when you have that much time, the reality is you will never get out, without a miracle of some sort.

Recently he killed his celly and was so violent and extreem they were going to give him the death penality. He is now in the SHU AD-Seg at Tahachipi.

I remember one night he had come home from work and had gone to bed. I had to leave out of town and had not finished my packing. He wanted the light off so he could sleep, I needed it on so I could pack. He kept turning the light off, I kept turning it on. I became so frustrated I grabbed a spray bottle of furniture wax that was sitting on the night stand and sprayed it at him. He grabbed a coffee cup from the night stand and walked outside, threw that cup as hard as he could at the building next door and let out an angry yell. Came back into the house, into the bedroom, turned off the light and layed back down.

lol. Wow. I would have done alot more then that had that happened to me. He also helped bury my mother. I miss him very much.

:(

My husband is also considered a VO. He and his ex-wfe were having a New years Eve party in 2004. They were hammered and Tim went to go lay down because he felt sick. Well, he passed out and when he came to he heard someone beating his wife. It was his supposed best friend. Well, he tried to save her but she was already a mess an incoherent of what was happening. Anywho, Tim was arrested after calling an ambulance for his ex. Went to jail, originally charged with Domestic Violence. Then it turned into Ass. w/intent to do great bodily harm less than murder. They gave him a plea deal of 1 year in county and 4 years prob if he would plea guilty. The judge would accept no other plea agreement, and if he plead anything else would just put him away for 10 years. So Tim, not wanting to go to prison for so long plead guilty despite knowing in his heart that he didn't do it. Now, two years later someone confirmed what Tim believed. The guy who beat his wife bragged to a lot of people who will never talk that he gets off on beating women, he beat Tim's wife, and he wound up going to jail for it. I hate that he has this label because he is NOT a monster. He also is not able to see his two beautiful daughters because his ex truly thinks Tim did it, and refuses to allow him to see his kids even though HE always worked full-time and came home to get no sleep and take care of them and was very good to them. He has now been out for almost three years now, and we have two children. Braeden is 1 and Kailyn is eight weeks old. He did go back though in Oct. 2007 for two days, getting out on work forlough child support because an employer failed to pay him anything. God, you think everything's ok and then WHAM you get hit with a curve ball.

My son is the good kid who got mixed up with the wrong people at the wost time, and he's the only one who got real time. assualt with intent to kill, yes v/O. None of our lifes will ever be normal again.
I have a new saying..... Money walks and the truth sinks under their feet! But no matter what my son is a good kid and someday when this is all over he will be A GREAT PERSON

I ask M if he was considered a violent offender and he said yes, anything to do with murder is. (In my opinion) it was self defense, I don't understand how that's a violent offense. If we had the $$ I'd hire some good attorneys and fight this to the ground knowing some of the blocks that are going to stand in his way. I guess it's not to early to start thinking about what he is going to do when he gets out.

Hi all, this is my first post in this forum. I post in numerous other forums on PTO...'cuz...well, they all apply to me in one way or another. LOL

Damian is a VO (he's also a "long-termer" and we're MWI, and he's in Cali's PVSP...so I post in all those forums...lol). He's got 10 years left on this bid. It was his second VO. His first was Robbery and att. murder. He did 7 1/2 years on that. Then this was assault with great bodily injury. He was originally sentenced to 26-life, but some of the charges got overturned/dropped and the judge changed the sentence to 15 years. This time around, he's learning a lot from his mistakes; gaining a lot of insight; taking responsibility for his actions; trying to better himself (educationally, spiritually, and emotionally/mentally); and I think he'll do much better this time around when he gets out. Right now, we're in the process of trying to get a few more years knocked off his sentence, so keeping fingers crossed.

Girlie, I'm not sure if my husband would be considered a violent offender, but I know where you are coming from. My husband is a federal prisoner without hope for parole. I love him so much despite his crimes. I'm working so hard to get federal parole reinstated. There is a petition at november.org. It includes ALL federal prisoners. If you would like to sign it or download it to get signatures yourself, feel free. Feel free to contact me via PM (email removed as per PTO policy)Thanks,
Alexis

My brother is considered a voilent offender indeed. Him and a buddy got stupidly drunk, my brother's blood alcohol level was 5 times the legal driving limit from what I hear. But they got drunk, and roudy and in the end someone died. They wanted a fight and they took it way to far. They beat a man extremely bad and left him to die, by morning he passed and was found where the beating took place. They bragged about being in a fight not realizing exactly what they had done.
They found out the next day that the man died needless to say Donovan panicked, but his "best friends" who were there and walked away but didn't call the police either (should be right there along with him if you ask me) set him up and got him arrested. Which yes, I realize he should be in jail, so he is where he belongs but they shouldn't have gotten off like that either.
He was charged with 2nd degree murder at 18 years old. This year he was offered a deal if they plead guilty to Manslaughter then they'd get a 12 year sentence minus 4 years dead time. So 8 years. Which is a very fitting sentence because he is not the person who commited the crime, he was just reckless and didn't care about life anymore, he needed help... It's sad it took someone to lose their life for him to realize he was being such an idiot.

But the family of the man is happy, we're happy and life goes on now.

We still love him and are going to be there to get him back on his feet and make sure he keeps on track from now on.

Hi every one my son was said to be a viloent offender becuz of agg robbery he is only 18 and I dont get a night of sleep since my baby been gone please if anyone no the set up at lorain he been there since May7,2008 and has not called I am worried????????????????

Mine is a "vo". He was charged with murder, did his time and has moved on with life. Things happenned before we met, but I don't hold it against him. Who am I to judge? But I just know not to get on his nerves but so much!:p Just kidding!

wow ladies here it goes, i know that my husband is considered a VO, he was convicted of 4 charges, the most serious was a a1 felony murder. So yeah you can say that society will call him a VO. Is he? Well not in my eyes. He was young, when this was commited, he was only 14 yrs old when some so called friends wanted him to hang out what turned to be the end of his childhood and the beginning of a living nightmare. Is he remorsful, repentive, sorry SURE he is. If he could turn back some 20 yrs ago he would! For the almost 8 yrs that i've known he is has grown up alot and he hopes to show society that he has changed into a better person. He is not the same 14 yr old kid who walked into the Juvi jail, he is now a man who has hopes and dreams for himself and his family that we will work to make all of our dreams come true.

flynena....I wish the best for you and your man!! How much longer does he have?

flynena....I wish the best for you and your man!! How much longer does he have?



well he is up for the board this upcoming June 2008. Lets JUST HOPE and PRAY that the board does see that he is truly remorsful and he is READY for society. They still havent givin him a date so we dont know, but his earliest release date is the end of June. So please keep him in your prayers, thank you for your support.


Ps- how are you, hows your little princess! I also pray for you!

My honey is considered a VO but he is actually the sweetest father to my children I could ask for. We just had alot of problems when he was dealing with a drinking problem but he is doing so much better. Unfortunately he is serving ten yrs though.

well he is up for the board this upcoming June 2008. Lets JUST HOPE and PRAY that the board does see that he is truly remorsful and he is READY for society. They still havent givin him a date so we dont know, but his earliest release date is the end of June. So please keep him in your prayers, thank you for your support.


Ps- how are you, hows your little princess! I also pray for you!

Keeping ya'll in my thoughts as he has the upcoming board.

I'm ok...and she's doing ok...I get to see her on Friday. So, I look forward to my visith with her, as always. :) Thank you! :)

my hubby is in jail right now for assault and battery and hes a so called sex offender....... he was innocent of what they accused him of when he was 14 but the stigma still follows him. he hit me a couple of weeks ago and now hes in jail for assault and battery and child cruelty cuz he hit me in front of the kids and failure to register........ dont know if he will end up in prison for a long time or not.... he still hasnt seen his attorney or gone to court yet

This is the first time I've posted in this forum, my ex b/f was in for child support, he broke up with me and now I have been communicating with someone else from the same prison. He is considered a VO.

I too am in love with a vo he is the sweetest man I have ever known. I have been married twice , one an abuser and unfaithful the other unfaithful. My vo only cares about me and my feelings. He makes me feel like a queen in his letters. He is giving up his past life to move away from it and be with me. So he can stay out of trouble. I love him to death.

I too am in love with a vo he is the sweetest man I have ever known. I have been married twice , one an abuser and unfaithful the other unfaithful. My vo only cares about me and my feelings. He makes me feel like a queen in his letters. He is giving up his past life to move away from it and be with me. So he can stay out of trouble. I love him to death.


Welcome to the VO forum and pto, its good that you have found love. I know he is happy to have someone like you who is willing to look past his past and to love him for him.

mmm yah but they dropped the attempted murder to an assault 2 .... i dont know how a cue ball is a 'deadly weapon' but what isnt these days huh?

Marc was charged with murder and plead down to Assault with a Deadly weapon with intent to kill.....major BS...but I suppose they consider him a violent offender....I am just curious to see how many of us are in love with such "violent creatures!!!" LOL...I love my VO!
~Katie
I absolutely adore my VO....He is my big teddy bear!.....

my fiance is an armed bank robber. I think it's stupid he's considered a VO but hey, we play the cards we're dealt right?

mmm yah but they dropped the attempted murder to an assault 2 .... i dont know how a cue ball is a 'deadly weapon' but what isnt these days huh?

I know someone who threw a partially full can of Coke at a wall and was charged with assult with a deadly weapon...

Hello, I am new to this forum and I am married to a violent offender... I have a while to go and I am here for support!! Thanks!

My husband is in for Second Degree Assult with a weapon..... He got violated on parole in november and his ex placed a harrasment charge on him...which he never touched her..... so now due to the fact that he is considered a Violent Offender.... I might have to wait until he is off parole to even be able to live with my husband! I love him for who he is not anything else.... So i guess im just one of us violent offender lovers!
Annie

gosh... all this time ive been on pto, i never actually thought of coming into this forum here... i never considered/thought of my man as a "violent offender"...
even now, i feel like im in the wrong place????
i dont/cant see him as violent...& am kinda refusing to think of him like that... even though i know he wasent/isnt an angel... but it was so many many years ago, when he was a juvenile.. its not the man he is today...
being a mwi relationship...i guess i only know him as the man he is today...
and cant help but love him whatever he is 'labeled' to be...

Hello I'm new to this. I'm here for support. My boyfriend who just got sent to prison as of today to the Miami Reception Center has 16 felons since the age of 17. this is his third time going to prison. I miss him a whole lot and hopes he wins his appeal cuz they had no physical evidence.

My fiance is a considered a VO. I grew up with him. He was a little shy around adults but more comfortable with people his age. When we were together then I thought I was a Queen. Life happened. He experienced the street of DC. His life was fast and getting out of control. He had a buddy he hung with and was loyal to. His buddy dated one of his cousins. Said buddy committed a crime. The 2 (buddy and my fiance) having been known to be into trouble together all the time is what got my fiance where he is now. The buddy committed a felony. Fiance questioned and would not cooperate with authorities against the buddy. The buddy is free and my fiance is serving a LONG sentence.

I commend him because I would be extremely bitter towards the buddy, the system and life in general, but he is always in high spirits. He has missed a lot of life and could be out now if he would cooperate. The thing I am most proud of him for even though he REALLY is serving time for something he did not do, he says he feels he needed prison because he had done so many wrong things and taken so much from the community that he feels he owed a debt to society. Had he beaten this case ('97) he said he had already planned to head right back to the streets. He grew up in prison and became a man. He has now learned what being a man is. He has participated in any and every self-help group offered and is still working on improving himself. Through letters, he talks to my nephews (10 and 8) about how important school is and making the right decisions. You all know they don't make much in prison AT ALL. But he has a deal with them and he pays them for their good grades. $20 for all A's and $10 for A's and B's. This motivates them to do well in school. I dunno, for such a violent person, I am so in love with his big heart.

My Vato is doing 18 years for murder and it dont bother me at all because i know he would never hurt me and we all make stupid decisions sometimes.

My fiance is considered a violent offender. He has two assault charges... the first one occured 5 years ago and it's a second degree assault. Major BS on how all that went down and the one he just got is First Degree Assault... Still BS (to an extent... long story) but he did do the crime so he must do the time.

My man is considered a VO. He is in for involuntary manslaughter. In his time being incarcerated he has really changed his life...for the better...and I am very proud of all that he has accomplished. I guess sometimes it takes drastic measures to realize things. So I am very proud of him :)

Mine is most deff. considered a violent offender... I guess he was kinda a real hostile guy. Not to me of course, but i do think that maybe it was good that he got caught, who knows what he'd be doing now... scary thought. :) He has calmed down quite a bit and now knows that you can't just go around commiting violent acts on people no matter what they did to provoke it. (Not untill after catching 2 more cases while being locked up..) He now thinks before he acts and realizes that hes worth so much more on the outs where theres soooo many people who love and miss him dearly. Also the whole being gang related has really not helped.. hopefully hes out grown that too... I know not all the way but enough that i don't have to worry about it.... silly boys... i do miss him so much though....:(

My man is considered a violent offender. He didn't commit the murder but got 15 years for: the shooter using a deadly weapon (12g shotgun), them all using drugs, and for not trying to stop the shooter from killing the victim.

My daughters father is a "violent" man, but his looks and words could fool nearly anyone... he's been down 9 years has 2 more to go. I met Santino (my lifer) while in jail myself... Santino was convicted of 2nd degree murder yet he is not a "violent" man.. yes he committed a murder with his bare hands, but obviously not intentionally (2nd degree murder) that just sounded so lame, lol... ok, my man thought he was messing with a female and turned out she was a he... a fight got out of hand (no hits to the head it was a neck choke in hopes of a black out not a death) he had another girlfriend at the time (damn cheater) and he called her to come see the mess he got himself into... if it wasnt for that call to his girlfriend and family he would have gotten a hate crime (1st degree murder)... wow, these are the first words of his case I have ever allowed out on here... that wasn't so bad, but I know it sits awful in the mind for some and I believe he is classified under a "violent offender".. his points have been dropping like frozen grapes and will soon be on a level II, he's come a long way from a level 4, but I'm not sure if his classification changes ???

Loving my lifer for life!

wel my husbands considered a violen offender cuz hes in for "attempted murder" even tho he never planned it....SELF DEFENSE FOOL!

I love my b/f to death but he beats up on me all the time when he's not hitting me he is the most wonderful person u would ever meet but I don't know how to get him to quit being so violent any suggestions

In 1996 my Fiance got Agg Robbery and sentenced 40 years. He comes up for first parole in 2016 after serving 20 years...He didnt hurt anyone, but had a gun that didnt even work, he didnt even point it at anyone. They also tagged him with Att. Capital Murder of a PO because they guy was chasing him on his motorcycle and crashed...not fair

hi iv been reading all the posts and didnt really no where to post it but here goes i have a mwi that iv been writeing to about 6 months a really nice careing man well i no his in for murder but just wasnt sure what he done i have found out via the internet that he was 23 at the time went out on a date with his gf and stabbed her more then 30 times i really would like to no what people think about this as im unsure myself i do belive in second chances

I love my b/f to death but he beats up on me all the time when he's not hitting me he is the most wonderful person u would ever meet but I don't know how to get him to quit being so violent any suggestions

Leave him! You should NEVER let anyone hit you. If he truly loved you, he would not hit you. period.

hi iv been reading all the posts and didnt really no where to post it but here goes i have a mwi that iv been writeing to about 6 months a really nice careing man well i no his in for murder but just wasnt sure what he done i have found out via the internet that he was 23 at the time went out on a date with his gf and stabbed her more then 30 times i really would like to no what people think about this as im unsure myself i do belive in second chances

If i am reading this correctly you found out about the crime cause you were doing research. The fact that he did this to his girlfriend could show that he has a rage problem, or a jealousy problem. This is something that you need to be careful of . If he didn't tell you of his crime then that is a red flag. You need to do what is best for you. I can't tell you to leave him because i don't know the whole story. all i can say is to be careful.

I agree. If he is not being completely honest now, then you'l have to wonder later. There are many women on this forum that have a loved one in for murder. Everyone does deserve a chance, but you have to be careful. I dont know that I could be with someone who stabbed his girlfriend 30 times! That shows rage and I would be scared.

Leave him! You should NEVER let anyone hit you. If he truly loved you, he would not hit you. period.

I have to agree with this, there is nothing that is defined as loved if someone is putting their hands on you. I have been thru a physical relationship and I kept saying he has alot on his mind, and i always forgave him after he said he wouldn't do it agian. He of course went a while without it and then he did it again. One day while he was hitting me I snapped, he didn't realize that i had my gun on me and we were fighting and for the first part i was fist fighting him back. Put it like this if it wasn't for his family member he would have been dead and i would have been in jail. Its crazy cause while i allowed it to happen i kept saying that i know he love me but while he may love me he didn't love me enough to stop the abuse.

I believe in second chances too, but to find out he stabbed his g/f 30 times is a little too much for me. I think I would run and not look back. But you have to do what is right for you, and I don't know the whole story either. Just be careful. Has he told you why he did it, or even told you about it. Not telling you is also a red flag to me to move on. Good luck

Welcome everyone to the VO forum. Glad you found us.

Been looking around PTL...kinda thinking this is the place for me to be....TN forums where my fiance is....good, but all of them seem to know WHEN their men are coming home...me not sure. 1st Degree murder, in the event of a kidnapping. Drug dealer selling Meth to his daughter....got into a fight....and so on and so on....Funny...My EX husband in Navy for 22 years...participated in DRUG X operations on a regular basis....blew drug smugglers right out of the water...HE GOT A MEDAL, MERITORIOUS UNIT COMMENDATION....my fiance...25 to LIFE....GOT some big questions about that one. We fell in love in 1968....got lost some how in 1979...found him, a year ago, broken and bleeding MCCX, wartburg TN. He's been through hell....fighting all alone. Been hard to convince him, I'll never leave him, because EVERYONE ELSE HAS. We've had some bumps...trying to handle all this. HE NEVER THOUGHT he'd find this kind of love again. Neither did I. But so glad we did. I don't have to fight my family....they all seem to understand...my daughters are very supportive...tell me they've never seen me this happy...crazy isn't it ? THe BEST kind of crazy I've ever known....I'll keep checking in....I've been posting alot in all areas....I like to write....my guy is very grateful for that.

PS...I am so lucky...my fiance not only writes every day...mails them about every 3 days...AND he paints me beautiful pictures on the envelopes....my heart skips a beat every time I get one. Going to get a scanner for Christmas so I can put all of my beautiful gifts on my web page....show him off to the world. Thanks for listening - Pamela

So sorry to hear of your struggles...this is not someone you've known forever...a stranger, who violently murdered someone...all YOU KNOW IS What HE tells you....and believe me...inside wire, they learn to lie...to stay alive....just to breath some days takes selling out their souls....not sure I'm the one to give advice....I would be so scared for you....I was with a man who beat me and psycologically tortured me for 22 years....it never changed....finally HE left me...I no self esteem left....and that's where this could lead you...I was lucky...the last beating didn't kill me...please think long and hard before you put yourself in that position. If all you do is write....that's one thing....putting yourself into a long term, commited relationship with this guy...probably not in your best interest....loneliness can do weird things to the thought process....do you pray....if so get on your knees, ask GOD....he'll give you the only direction you need....second chances...hell ya....just think, think think, before you put yourself in a permanent position with this guy....been there, done that, got T SHIRT....now, I use that T shirt for a rag...wipe crap up off the floor with it....Pamela





hi iv been reading all the posts and didnt really no where to post it but here goes i have a mwi that iv been writeing to about 6 months a really nice careing man well i no his in for murder but just wasnt sure what he done i have found out via the internet that he was 23 at the time went out on a date with his gf and stabbed her more then 30 times i really would like to no what people think about this as im unsure myself i do belive in second chances

Been looking around PTL...kinda thinking this is the place for me to be....TN forums where my fiance is....good, but all of them seem to know WHEN their men are coming home...me not sure. 1st Degree murder, in the event of a kidnapping. Drug dealer selling Meth to his daughter....got into a fight....and so on and so on....Funny...My EX husband in Navy for 22 years...participated in DRUG X operations on a regular basis....blew drug smugglers right out of the water...HE GOT A MEDAL, MERITORIOUS UNIT COMMENDATION....my fiance...25 to LIFE....GOT some big questions about that one. We fell in love in 1968....got lost some how in 1979...found him, a year ago, broken and bleeding MCCX, wartburg TN. He's been through hell....fighting all alone. Been hard to convince him, I'll never leave him, because EVERYONE ELSE HAS. We've had some bumps...trying to handle all this. HE NEVER THOUGHT he'd find this kind of love again. Neither did I. But so glad we did. I don't have to fight my family....they all seem to understand...my daughters are very supportive...tell me they've never seen me this happy...crazy isn't it ? THe BEST kind of crazy I've ever known....I'll keep checking in....I've been posting alot in all areas....I like to write....my guy is very grateful for that.

PS...I am so lucky...my fiance not only writes every day...mails them about every 3 days...AND he paints me beautiful pictures on the envelopes....my heart skips a beat every time I get one. Going to get a scanner for Christmas so I can put all of my beautiful gifts on my web page....show him off to the world. Thanks for listening - Pamela

Welcome to the vo forum, its good that not only you have a great love but the support of the family as well.

He's not been charged with anything to make him a VO, but he did join a gang in prison so to me he is a VO.

My man is vo, and everyone from the streets who isnt raised with a silver spoon is lol coming from where we were both raised you had to protect yourself if it means viloence then yes thats what needed to be done they call it ilegal we call it survival..... Either way we have both learned from each other and we want the best in life and people make mistakes as long as it dont involve making the mistakes on me i will love him tell death...... All that matters is there good to us take care girley

Yeah my husband's considered a Violent offender....He's in for armed criminal action a D class felony..they got him locked down 23hrs a day...so i have to get to him every weekend..he's such a sweet and thoughtful person..and each visit's like a " Love Energy Charge.." I can't live without him..I know what he done..and i also know why he did it..He's no monster..but if they want to call him one then call him My Loving Monster:)

The fact that the love of my life has been in 20 years already and he has a life sentence on top of that. As far as I know it was attempted kidnapping with no harm. I hope he still has a chance to get out. I LOVE him ever since I was 15. Does anyone know of anyone getting out with this kind of thing?? Thanks to all!!

I loved my VO too. That was back in the 80's. He went to prison for holding me hostage in a 6 hour standoff with a machine gun to my head. I was 4 months pregnant with our son. He is now a wonderful 24 year old man and I'm so proud of him.

I got my son out of New Haven when I was on my way to work one day and heard on the radio there was a drive by shooting in front of Ryans daycare. We moved to Branford and then to NH.

Sadly my VO died when Ry was 4 years old. He was thrown off the North Branford bridge by a bussiness associate.

They say, "If your going to live by the sword your going to die by the sword" and that is what he did. You can't go around killing forever without being killed as a result.

He will always be my first love but definately not my last! Rest in Peace, Chick Mason...
2/7/51-Fathers Day 1989

hello all!:) my man is also considerd a VO as he was charged with Assult with intent great bodly harm less than murder, but a big ol teddy bear is all i have seen out of him!! he is truely the sweetest man i have ever meet !!

my man is VO cause he had a weapon on his and he was arrested before so it just was a carry over. but hes the sweetest guy ive ever known and i miss him... its funny how they can say just cause he had a weapon makes him a VO but i guess they do what they got to.. thats why people think they are so bad cause of the term of it

Count me in. Mine was charged with assault with a deadly weapon. The assault? Was on a guy who was putting his hands on a female (at least that's what he had been told). The deadly weapon? A Freaking beer bottle. Nuff said. At least I know that if any man was to ever threaten me or hurt me...it would most likely be the last thing he did.

Lovin my VO!!!

Mine is a VO. When he was 17, him and a couple "friends" were out drinking and ran into some older guys (also drunk) and one made a racist comment to my man. Something having to do with him acting like a "N-word". A fight ensued, his "friends" ran off, the other guys friends helped instigate it some more, fight goes too far and dude ends up dead. My man didn't testify so it pretty much all went off of what the guys friends said since they were the only witnesses left. They lied and said that the whole thing was unprovoked. Manslaughter. 20 years with the option for a second look after 10 years. Got at least 5 more to go. Definitely praying for 2014.

VO...robbery with dangerous weapon and 2nd degree kidnapping. He was at a card game, guys were cheating...he tied them up and shot one in the leg to get his $2000 back...the guy that he shot did not press charges, but the state did. He is a very proud man and will go to any length to protect his honor and will not let anyone take advantage of him (or think they can)...I have to work on him with the pride and honor thing...he has taken several anger management classes...he is so sweet and loving with me, but any man try to disrespect him he will flip.

Assult w/ intent. Verbally fighting with best friend of 13 years turned to walk to car heard someone running up on him and shot (friend) twice. SC don't have self defense law and he had priors so that didn't help. My husband is no saint but he is a WONDERFUL man and person and he doesn't bother anyone but if you F*%k with him or his family, you get what you get.:)

Yea my man is considered a vo. But he's the best thing that ever happened to me. He's the sweetest man you would ever want to meet. he would do anything for anybody. And does even locked up.....

the love of my life is doing 24 - life for murder in the second degree.

my man is considered a violent offender....this is what he did....went to his wife's house where he had been staying too...she said he was drunk(he was) and told him to leave...he climbed in the window and got in bed with his son and went to sleep...the charged him with....burglary of an occupied dwelling with stealful entry....where is the violence???

My husband is in for Agg Assault on a police officer- how he can kick the cop while hogtied is beyond me, but whatever the cop says is the truth, right? *eye roll*
Also in for two other counts of Agg Assault on two other occasions, these were not cops, just bar fights he got into. My husband should not drink, simple as that, he likes to pick fights when he's had one too many.

Hi! Yes, Im in luv with a violent offender! My baby is serving 2 sentences and they werent ran concurrent! He has completed 1, 26yrs! Although he is considered violent, he is the sweetest and most loving man I have ever known! He knows me like the back of his hand, and treats me like a queen even from the inside! I faithfully go to Solano weekly and will continue until he comes home to me! Sometimes we forget that when we wake up each morning, God has forgiven us for the sins of the day before, we are blessed and can go on! If God forgives them, who do we think that we are?? Selah!!

SAY IT LOUD, I LUV MY VO AND I'M PROUD!!!!!

Yeps my man is a VO

My husband made one bad decision when he was a teenager and is labeled by society as a violent offender. Let me tell you that my husband is the sweetest human being I have ever met; I even refer to him as “my sweet baby” cause that’s exactly what he is :angel:. That one bad decision is something he’s going to have deal with his whole life but I am along for the ride without a doubt. :love2:

I guess since he hasn't been convicted yet its not totally official but my husband would be. He is charged with Attempt and Murder... But there was a lot leading up to whatever but I guess his lawyer don't care and neither does the ADA... My husband just wants to hurry up and go to prison so he can start serving his time and not worry about court every couple of weeks... :0(

My baby is the sweetest kindest man I have ever met in my life. The thought of him being violent in anyway other than protection of self and family would never cross anyones head who has ever met him... Its a sad story, but I got his back... I have little faith in the "justice" system...

So my man is considered a violent offender as well. I'm not buying it. Anyhow Luke as a dumb 17 year old kid happened to be in a vehicle that committed a drive-by shooting...he did not actually shoot a gun...now he is 10 years down and has at least 5 more to go.

mines crime was white collar -forgery

Mine is as well, that was his first time in prison. I met him when he got out after 7 1/2 years in and never gave it a second thought. He told me about it the very first night I met him. I fell head over heals. This time, no violence issues, but issues just the same. The violence is gone, now we just need to work on the rest. I love him unconditionally, and think all his tattoos are sexy as hell. In fact, the tatts were what drew me to him at first. I love the bad boys. Can't help it. I can say this though, I have never loved a man in my life they way I love my husband and it gets stronger each and every day.

My friend is in for a ex girlfriend that pressed charges on him and now he is considered a sex offender. The girl tried to back the charges off in the last sentencing court but the judge said it was too late, sentence had been made. But he is considered a VO but there is no way I could ever consider him as that.

I took my friends with me one night to hang out with boy (who at the time was just my best friend) when he was out on bail. after we left on the way home my friend said "he is probably the nicest person i have ever met. we should hang out with him again!" ..... his trial was a week later, and he was sentenced to 8 years... he didnt have a mean bone in his body going in, but if he does now, prison did it to him.

My husband got charged with aggravated assault January 2009. Basic story is that him & his now ex got drunk and he doesnt remember anything. He woke up the next morning & her face was all messed up & she wouldnt let him leave the house. He didnt understand what was going on & he didnt even have any marks or scratches or anything on him (& shes a psycho like would fight back in an instant) & deep down in my heart I really dont think that he did it. They didn't even do an investigation or anything & shes all into drugs & owes a lot of ppl money. He is now at Treasure State Correctional Facility in Deerlodge, MT. I know its way less than what a lot of your husbands are serving. His is only 90-120 days which still feels like forever... But he is now registered as a violent offender so we can't even rent a nice apartment because they dont allow any kind of offenders... which is bullshit:angry: He is so laid back. If anyone knows him they know there is no way he would ever do anything like that. Now I'm not sure how hard it's going to be to do this but I am trying to look at buying us a house so I hope thats not so hard to do. But he is the most amazing man I have ever met in my life! He treats me like a princess & no matter what title the court systems may put on him he will always still be the amazing man that I know and love:heart:

Yes I am a domestic violence victim..and I didnt have a phone thrown at me..he just cut my face wih a dbl edge razor between his knuckles in a drugged out frenzy....i dont use drugs but i am an alcoholic...I think if your son chose to stay there rather than at home its not because of the girl but of something thy are doing there that they dont do at your house...if the drugs bothered him he wouldve brought the girl to your house rather than the other way around. Your son has issues too..is what Im trying to say.....by all means love him.He needs that and will in the future butplease give him guidence,too.This girl is also a victim..a victim of upbringing. If he still wants to be with her dont fight it encourage them to go to rehab and get their lives together...if you do this you save 2 lives not just one...I kind of dont believe your son didnt know the girl had pot..2 girfriends with drug problems?too coincidental.Go on with your life hun,and help your son grow up. He will be better for it.I hope my story helps you and your son. My husband is in jail..and I left the state and when Im ready I will file fordivorce. He is a repeat offender.... and until he realizes he hasa drug problem he will be the same.Anyway hes already married..to Mrs cocaine and Mrs heroin..His drug of choice is speedball .....IV drug user since 15.My son's first felony is for domestic assault. When my son was 17, his gf's parents let him move in with their 18 yr old daughter in their house. :argh: Everybody in the house had drug addictions and nobody had a job (you figure it out). I tried desperately to get him out of this situation for 2 yrs.
One night the girl stayed out all night and came home stoned out of her mind. My son and the gf had a fight, she said throw me the phone, I will call the person I was with so they can tell you there was no other guy. He threw the cordless (ok, maybe too hard because they were both angry). The phone hit her in the eye and she got a black eye. The parents called the police. It was a mess. He was so upset with himself for hurting his gf that he climbed on top of the house with a knife, threatening to jump with the knife pointing at his chest. He was finally talked down after 2 hours. In court, the gf tried to get the charges dropped. She said she would have caught the phone if she had not been so stoned. The court asked her what she was high on and she told them her mother's pills. But, as I was told, when there is a domestic assault case, it becomes a state case so she couldn't drop it. His biggest regret now is pleading guilty. He was told if he pled guilty, he would get out of jail quicker. That is all he cared about at the time. :banghead:
Another interesting part of this story is that my son was the 2nd to go to prison for assault on this girl. And there was another one after him. It was a merry-go-round. As soon as one got out, she would go back to him until the next one got out. These men were idiots, including my son! :banghead: He was so blinded by love for her that he believed all her lies.
She once told my son she was pregnant by him. My son loved the idea, was in the delivery room and had a big surprise when it turned out the baby was mixed race when my son and the gf were the same race; oops! :hmm:
Still, my son took better care of the baby than the mother. He loved that baby. He drew the line with drug usage when a child came into the picture. That is why he was home and she was out running around all night before the fight. And that is why he was so mad that she was still using.
After prison, his PO let him move back in with her, despite my pleadings and giving him reasons for him not to let that happen. :no: But the PO regarded me as a crazed mother. Well, duh!
I threw it up in his face after my son got in trouble again; for selling out of that house. Imagine that, duh again! But of course the PO got us back. My son was finally on the straight path; good job, college, etc. when he was violated for being in a car with somebody who had pot under her seat that he didn't know about. In fact, it was the first time he had met the girl. She was from another city 3 hours from our house. Here I was, relieved that he was making new friends. Geesh!
The PO told my son and me that no matter what, he was sending him back for being within arm's reach. My son gave up caring about everything and helped the PO send him back. :angry:

WHEW! And that is the condensed version!

So, yes, I have a loved one that is considered a VO.

Loving a VO...assault w/ a deadly weapon (firearm). Only two people know what went on the night in question. Of course I am going to believe my man over some other guy. Going through the appeal process right now and praying someone some where will look at his case and see it doesn't add up. :(

My fiance is considered a VO, but after his addictions classes and seeing counsellors he has been approved for parole without needing a violence program. I always knew he wasn't violent =)
He's in for 3 counts of armed robbery... *sigh*

Yes.
Convicted of Murder and Manslaughter.

Geezz, I just found out what VO stood for.... my man hurt someone to death :( yes he's labeled as a VO, but he's not a violent man ~ he's a left handed man.... statistics show that only 10% of population is left handed so when a right handed man gets hit by a left handed hook.... he's thrown off and the leftie has the upper hand, but in my mans case the hand went too far :(

I will admit ~ I've had a few fears of how my man would react in other moments of extreme anger... so I've studied him, I've paid close attention to his words and actions, I've tested him / pissed him off to see how he would react and his behavior in prison has been a massive reflection of who he truly is. He's not a violent man... He's physically strong and use to have to push his weight around growing up in foster homes, but thats all passed him now.

:rolleyes: duh! yeah...my man is a VO. are you kidding me? he's working on it. :)

Mine is a violent offender...but he is more like a big teddy bear :D.

Yes, mine too!! He did 8 years and is finally out!! I met him in prison( i worked there) and knew the minute i met him that he was a loving and caring man. He found his girlfriend in bed with his friend. He had been drinking and had a knife(he didn't use it) and was mad as hell. He is not the man that "they" said he was. He is a very gentle man but the system now treats him like a horrible person. He has to take classes and is on probation for another 4 years! By the way the woman dropped the charges but the courts said it was too late!! Anyway, i won becuase we never would have met and he is the best thing that ever happened to me.

My husband is a VO and I call him my "MUSHY GANGSTA"...Cause he's so sweet on me...and respected/feard by others

I am madly in love with a "violent offender". I was there when he did it, backing him up. I was going to testify for him as his witness (the victim lied about several things), but we never went to trial. The charges dropped from attempted murder to ADW to terrorist threats. He took the plea bargain for terrorist threats.. level 8 felony, 1st strike.

I am... He got 26 years.. Gotta love BAD boys!

My husband is a violent offender...Gotta agree with LovingLifeInMas, Gotta love the BAD boys!!

My baby is vo, many years ago armed robery with a plastic toy gun, now another armed robbery this time a box that he claimed to have a bomb in it...no bomb was in it!!! He didn't yell or anything but with the plastic toy gun years ago, and a box with a suposed bomb in it...makes them considred violent. He's such a sweet loving caring man! I love him so much!!!!

Yes he is VO I love him none the less he has truely been rehabilitated this time around.

Yes my man is considered a Violent Offender Felony murder, Robbery, Kidnapping , also labeled as a STG in the prison hes in...He did thoes stupid things when he was 16 yrs old hes now 25 so he has grown up Alot since then!

Yes my man is considered a Violent Offender Felony murder, Robbery, Kidnapping , also labeled as a STG in the prison hes in...He did thoes stupid things when he was 16 yrs old hes now 25 so he has grown up Alot since then!


I know your story all too well. My husband accidentally killed his friend in a fight. He was 17. Next December he will be coming home after 20 years! I have been with him since 2004. We married in '08. When he gets out he will have been in seg for 18 years! He's been solo since 1997. Change is very possible. I know God put us together. We both are truly blessed. I wish you two the best!

My love is a VO, murder2. They charged him at 17, was sentenced by 19, been in 15 years. I love him still with all my heart.

my babys a violent offender my man put 24 staples in his lil sis babys dad with a bat and robbed him after breakin into the hotel room he was in(home invasion inhancement) her babys dad is a total lame who put hands on her slings sacks left and right but can barely spare a dime or anytime for his own son!!anyways yeah he deserved it i just wish it wasnt my baby who had to do it!!

yes my husband is considered a violent offender... but its been since he has been locked up in the last 8 years hes been sent to 4 different prisons... hopefully this is the last one... he has calmed himself down because he is older and we are in the home stretch,..

My fiance' is considered a VO. He was 17 and had stupid friends. One night he was hanging out at "K's" house when K's step dad came home. This guy was a drunk and loved to beat K and K's mom. Well he found a reason to start in on K (they had been smoking cigarettes) and started to beat and choke him. Justin jumped in, punched the step dad ONE TIME and got his attention away from K. When the step dad started to come at Justin, K hit him on the head. He died instantly. Justin was there so he was arrested and could have told his side, but his defender was a joke and told him to not testify and everything would be OK. At the same time, the DA went to K and made him a deal. K testified that Justin was the one who killed him and that his mother was in on it too. His mother got a life sentence, Justin got 15 years, and K got 13 years even though he's the only one convicted of murder. He was 17 years old, stuck in a situation where all he tried to do was protect a friend, and that very same friend turned around and lied about him to save his own skin. He still gets hate mail from the guy's family from time to time, K's mom tried to kill herself twice since she's been in prison, and K gets the lesser sentence to save his own butt. I guess you never really know the quality of a person until they're in a situation to save their own hide. I'm proud to be with Justin, even though his actions were stupid all he thought about at the time was to keep K from getting the crap beat out of him again. But most people don't hear the story, they see 'attempted murder' and end it there. Their loss.