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NJR102000
11-01-2004, 06:32 PM
Governor turns his focus to propositions
By Margaret Talev -- Bee Capitol Bureau
Published 2:15 am PST Monday, November 1, 2004

REDDING - With time running out before Tuesday's election and the fate of several ballot measures too close to call, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger kept his pitches for President Bush and Republican legislative candidates to a minimum in two campaign stops Sunday, focusing on the nonpartisan propositions in which he has a stake.

Touching down by plane about noon at the municipal airport in Redding, 160 miles north of Sacramento, the governor told a crowd of more than 1,000 fans, most of whom favor Bush, "We're not only electing a president. We also have a lot of initiatives on the ballot, this is the important thing."

He later flew to a rally in Pleasanton, in the Bay Area. He was expected to hit several more cities today, campaigning for legislative candidates.

Leaving Redding, Schwarzenegger said he gets the sense that voters are overwhelmed by the 16 measures on the ballot.

"People are really confused about how to vote. Even people that don't necessarily think the way I do, they just want to have some guide to know how to vote," he said. "Everyone is confused, the smartest people, not just people that don't know about politics. Smart people are confused."

In Redding, Schwarzenegger suggested to the crowd he had staked out his positions on ballot measures as protector of the ordinary citizen against moneyed interests.

"It is very important for you to know, the special interests are at it again," he said, waving placards as he highlighted his recommendations on several ballot initiatives. "The special interests are fighting us."

Indian tribes and card-room and racetrack operators bankrolled two gambling measures the governor opposes, Propositions 68 and 70. And a wealthy man with a son in prison fueled the Proposition 66 campaign to weaken the state's "three-strikes" sentencing law, a measure the governor has come out against in the final week of the race.

But advocates of the "three-strikes" measure appeared at the campaign stop in Redding to defend their proposal and said the governor is spreading misinformation and using scare tactics. They also called his special-interest criticism hypocritical, saying the governor failed to tell the crowd the unionized correctional officers who oppose loosening the sentencing laws have a financial stake in keeping less violent felons in prison longer.

Schwarzenegger also did not acknowledge the tobacco, oil, automobile and retail corporations or venture capitalists to whose ballot campaigns he has signed on to limit consumer lawsuits, invest taxpayer money in private stem cell research and block mandates that medium-and large-size employers provide health care for workers.

"The ultimate power comes from the people, from you," he said. "This is why I'm counting on you when you go to the polls."

Schwarzenegger said backers of the Proposition 66 campaign are pushing it "so they can release the murderers, they can release the rapists and they can release the child molesters. That's what they want to do, take them out of jail and send them into your neighborhoods and make your neighborhoods unsafe." :angry:

In the audience, the governor's message and manner resonated with Redding auto body shop owner Mel McKenney and his wife, Cathy. They said Schwarzenegger had influenced their thinking on which way to vote on some ballot measures, including the "three-strikes" measure. :angry:

"It just enlightened me," Mel McKenney said. "He's one of us, and not so much a politician." :blah:

impoohbearsgirl
11-01-2004, 06:44 PM
He's sending mixed messages to those incarcarated by saying this stuff and then paroling murderers..he's let out alot more than Davis ever did!

NJR102000
11-01-2004, 06:50 PM
YES INDEED HE IS!!!! :angry: HE NEEDS TO GET HIS STORIES STRAIGHT AND STOP CONFUSING PEOPLE!!! :eek:

:thumbsup: I HOPE & PRAY WE DEMOLISH HIM AT THE POLLS!!! :thumbsup:

:thumbsup: PLEASE VOTE "YES on PROP 66"!!!! :thumbsup:

qwerty
11-01-2004, 07:37 PM
Release the murderers????? SInce when did murder become a nonviolent offense????

I wish we could sue politicians for flat-out lying!!!! That reporter should have called him on it too!!!! AAAARRRGGGHHHH! :angry:

SGT Anonymous
11-01-2004, 08:16 PM
Some of the inmates to be released have been previously convicted of murder of some degree. It isn't a lie.

Just because the 3rd strike crime isn't a violent one doesn't mean they are not violent offenders.

qwerty
11-01-2004, 11:57 PM
I get that part... but they were already tried and convicted and did their time for the violent offense.

I don't think a nonviolent offense should get 25 to life, no matter who does it. My humble opinion... :)

SGT Anonymous
11-02-2004, 12:13 AM
I wasn't trying to start another debate on that. My only point is that he isn't really lying about murderers and rapists being let out. Maybe not telling the whole truth, but he isn't lying. Gotta love politics.

TC'sGirl
11-02-2004, 12:25 AM
The prop says that only "non-violent offenders" will be re sentenced according to the amended 3 strikes law, I hardly think Ca is going to let a bunch of murderers and rapists out because the bill is amended.. they are talking about "non-violent offenders".

VOTE YES ON 66... YOUR MANS "LIFE" MAY DEPEND ON IT!!!!!

SGT Anonymous
11-02-2004, 01:01 AM
Actually they are. It doesn't matter what their first or second strike was. Prop 66 is only concerned with the 3rd strike. So they will be releasing people who have previously been convicted of murder and rape.

TC'sGirl
11-02-2004, 12:43 PM
People who already served their time for those crimes, you cannot keep a person incarcerated for something they did years ago and served their time.. that's like a backwards double jeporday!!

qwerty
11-02-2004, 02:13 PM
SGT oops maybe I did go off on a tangent.:rolleyes: I agree he may be saying something that is technically true, but as you say "maybe not the whole truth." And a partial truth ain't the truth in my book. ;)

Politics, no kidding! Sheesh...