View Full Version : News about Martha @ Alderson Federal Prison


stillmommysgirl
10-17-2004, 10:30 PM
Hi I havent posted in a while and just thought that I would give ya some info about Martha. Before I say anything what so ever I want any reporters to know I will not give names of ANYONE to you nor will I say where my info came from. I was told that a inmate was sent to jail for talking to the media. There is signs posted everwhere if you talk to the media, youll be sent to Beckley jail. I was told by a friend of mine that shes very very cool and a sweet and nice person. She walks the tracks with them and spends much of her time in the library typing in her journal. She offered to bring in 1500 cupcakes for all the ladies and was told NO WAY. She offered every woman in there MS sheets and was told absolutly not. There was one inmate that had her pic taken with Martha and the guards will not give the inmate her photo because Martha is in it. I was told Martha eats in the chow hall just like the rest and complains just like the rest lol. There are helicopters flying over constantly so the ladies help her stay out of the spotlight. She has made friends and does share a room in the cottage shes in. Everyone loves her there and follows her around.

14utoconsider
10-18-2004, 12:39 AM
This may be a dumb question, but what does "LOL" mean?

titantoo
10-18-2004, 05:41 AM
LOL=Lots Of Laughs
This may be a dumb question, but what does "LOL" mean?

proud grannie
10-18-2004, 09:53 AM
This may be a dumb question, but what does "LOL" mean?
LOL=laughing out loud
are at least that is what is on my list of computer terms.
Proud grannie

betrayed_4_life
10-18-2004, 05:36 PM
Moving this thread to the Federal Forum

kintml2u
10-18-2004, 06:17 PM
Thanks for sharing this with us...

I am glad Martha is doing well! You gotta love a woman who wants to give some sweets to everyone, and even some decent sheets! Go martha! To bad they will not allow it, but then if they would...I'm sure many others would have some new sheets!

We have many visitors lately looking for information on Alderson, and I am sure the majority are interested due to Martha. Actually..I hope that is the case, and not that they will be serving time as well! But I do want to say if there are any questions...please feel free to ask! We will do our best to help out with understanding the federal prison system, and what all prisoners face while serving time! No matter who you are, how well you are known...prison is prison! It's a hard thing for all involved!

point of light
10-18-2004, 08:09 PM
I'm hoping that the attention the Federal Prison System is getting now may help all of us. Maybe the media can be our conduit to bringing the truth out in the open. It's also an election year, perfect timing for the truth to be revealed so that positive change can begin.

stillmommysgirl
10-18-2004, 10:12 PM
I think it is wonderful that she offered so much to the ladies there. Shes a very nice lady. I did something bad today I bought a ENQUIRER magazine. The front cover had a big LIE about Martha and about Alderson fpc. They had pics of a prison with barbed wire around it and cells with bars. They also had a former inmate that "shared" her view of Alderson saying she was raped by the guards and was mistreated badly. Not that I dont want to believe a woman when she says she was raped but her story was so far fetched. She said she was told to rake the leaves and when she told the guard that there was no more to rake he was supposed to have said "stand there and wait for one to fall"!! can you believe this stuff the papers print? Im never buying one again, I only got the one because mom just got out of Alderson and she was interested as to what was being said about Alderson. Even she laughed at some of the stuff they had in it. Mom said she loved Alderson and the people that was in it. Never was she approached by the same sex being threatened or raped by a guard which this paper says happens all the time at Alderson.

cjjack
10-18-2004, 11:02 PM
I know the girl that gave that interview and I was there the night this supposed rape happend. I hate to call her a liar, but thats pretty much what she is. What she said happend was impossible the way she said it happend.

No way would the CO tell her to wait for a leaf to fall. I was there in the fall raking leaves, and when we were done the CO's let us go back inside for the day.

Alderson was in no way a hard place to do time. People like the woman who gave that interview to that rag are just looking for attention.

justvicki
10-19-2004, 12:01 AM
I still haven't seem the National Enquirer article, but ummmmmm, Chrisa, is the person being interviewed who I think is being interviewed about what I think she is being interviewed about? :) If it is, I repeat what I said in another post....what a load of horse hockey!

I agree 100% with what you said about the leaves, but I can also hear some of the CO's telling the new commits to go pick up all the matches around the smoke shacks! :)

Oops! Now i really seem to be repeating myself!

cjjack
10-19-2004, 12:03 AM
Vicki, does the name "Frame" ring a bell?????

justvicki
10-19-2004, 12:04 AM
Chrisa!

Ding dong! Knew this one at state.......she was my bunky! Gotta read the article now!

ROFLMAO

cjjack
10-19-2004, 12:06 AM
LOL!!

Well, the Enquirer pays for interviews. I guess they had to scrape the bottom of the barrel to find someone who would give an interview like that!!

titantoo
10-19-2004, 12:39 AM
LOL=laughing out loud
are at least that is what is on my list of computer terms.
Proud grannie
You were right and I was wrong...checked it on google!

Lysbeth
10-19-2004, 01:26 AM
People like the woman who gave that interview to that rag are just looking for attention.

Yeah... and money!!! ;)

Bet it wasn't all that much tho...

justvicki
10-19-2004, 01:45 AM
I know the girl personally. It wouldn't have taken much! :)

haswtch
10-19-2004, 08:46 AM
That article is a howl, although the exploitation is nasty...whoever was hanging out with her in those last couple days talking about her being upset, as if there were something wierd about that! I bought one too, sending it to my guy so he can have a giggle.

meowmachine
10-19-2004, 09:43 AM
I think it is wonderful that she offered so much to the ladies there. Shes a very nice lady. I did something bad today I bought a ENQUIRER magazine. The front cover had a big LIE about Martha and about Alderson fpc. They had pics of a prison with barbed wire around it and cells with bars. They also had a former inmate that "shared" her view of Alderson saying she was raped by the guards and was mistreated badly....
My dad told me that he had seen that ENQUIRER... and I said immediately, "that's fiction." He asked how I knew. He had seen the publication on October 10. "How long has she been there?" I asked. "Um. Two days." I said that the ENQUIRER is printed just once a week and their deadline came up before Martha Stewart even arrived at Alderson. The pictures were not of Alderson... and the whole story was very obviously bogus.

I would doubt the voracity of the rest of the story.

alice, star reporter!!!:thumbsup:

seekur
10-20-2004, 08:44 PM
At around 4:25 pst, CNN's Lou Dobbs Show reported on how Martha was doing at Alderson. It quoted word-for-word from select parts of the OP on this thread, and put in type on the screen the sentence about how people "follow Martha around." PTO was identified as "Prison Talk Online, an Internet site where ex-federal inmates (can) keep in touch with those (still) on the inside." Indicating that the producer had looked beyond this thread, the OP was attributed to "an Internet user identifying herself as 'stillmommysgirl' whose mother was in federal prison."

I myself have had no direct involvement with the federal system. However, as someone once part of the media (NOT NOW), I can tell you that scooping up quotes from a support board is borderline reporting on many fronts, accuracy and ethics among them. Out of the same respect that normally keeps me quiet here, I wanted to offer some suppositions and suggestions:

1) Safely assume that media is lurking. If you don't want what you say here or anywhere else to be quoted or flashed on the big screen, say so in the same post. (For the record, lurking reporters/producers/editors/writers, I do not want to be sourced or quoted on any of my post here.) See, like that. There are no guarantees, but at least you, too, will have been on the record.

2) If you do want what you say to be used in the media, also say so and indicate willingness to be PM'ed, etc. for more information. Be willing to disclose yourself and your sources. Be prepared to see them/you as "Jane Doe, the daughter of a convicted federal embezzler/drug dealer/whatever it was..." or "John Doe, convicted in 19XX for fraud in an Internet scam/for killing two people in a drunk driving accident/whatever else."

3) If you talk at all, talk to journalists who are there not for some celebrity case but for your/ your loved one's case or issue. How big or prestiguous the journalist's employer is has jack shit to do with the quality of its own reporting, particularly on complex issues. Smaller newspapers/magazines/TV stations all get picked up by the megaloths. As you're more likely to have gotten more time and consideration from them, you're a step ahead.

Micki2004
10-21-2004, 08:09 AM
Hi, I just joined the site. Looking forward to the chat. A regular online user here.
LOL= laughing out loud. Just computer lingo. Other's are:
ROFLMAO= rolling on floor, laughing my a** off.
SSDD= we all know what this means.
GMTA=great minds think alike

Just throwing a few out there.

Well, I read alot and am active in the world of knowledge and what is going on. I in no way, allow the media to sidetrack my thoughts or opinions on anything. I base them on facts. Fro example, this site itself. I do not judge others, as it is not my place to do so. Right or wrong, I look at logic, and allow others to be human.

Martha, I'm with you all the way. I am an avid fan of yours, and support you 100%. Don't let the media or what you are going through get you down. We love you. I would love to correspond with you. I may be a peon compared to you, but I do understand the who's and why's. Keep your head up. And for the women around her, get to know her. You can write me anytime....

Later gals... Mic

sweetpea
10-21-2004, 08:16 AM
Micki it is good to have you here - anyone that wants to come to PTO and give support along with providing whatever knowledge they have regarding the system and life in general is more than welcome to join us!! :p

Phil in Paris
10-21-2004, 08:18 AM
Martha, I'm with you all the way. I am an avid fan of yours, and support you 100%. Don't let the media or what you are going through get you down. We love you. I would love to correspond with you. I may be a peon compared to you, but I do understand the who's and why's. Keep your head up. And for the women around her, get to know her. You can write me anytime....

Later gals... Mic

Hi Mic and welcome to PTO. :)

Martha can not read your post, and nor any of the "women around her". Inmates don't have internet access. We're a support group for incarcerated people. All kinds of incarcerated people, the famous ones, as well as the unknown whom the medias never talk about....

Welcome again.
Phil

MiamiChica22
10-21-2004, 08:35 AM
You know--any one of us could get on here and spew lies about Martha Stewart prison stories and the major media outlets would probably pick it up and report it on the news...that is horrible. :blah:

That's why this country is going downhill. If any of these reporters had a speck of intelligence, they could/would/should be reporting on budget shortfall issues, minimum mandatory sentencing etc...but no....we get regurgitated fluff on sheets and cupcakes. :(

Makes me proud to be an American. :eek:

For goodness sake, please get out and VOTE on November 2. :thumbsup:

prisontalk
10-21-2004, 08:39 AM
wow......for 9 years i thought lol meant "laugh out loud".

cjjack
10-21-2004, 08:51 AM
Amen, Miami!!!

Micki2004
10-21-2004, 09:44 AM
Hi Mic and welcome to PTO. :)

Martha can not read your post, and nor any of the "women around her". Inmates don't have internet access. We're a support group for incarcerated people. All kinds of incarcerated people, the famous ones, as well as the unknown whom the medias never talk about....

Welcome again.
Phil
Hi Phil--

My response in writing was simply that. Not written directly to M.S. or anyone else. It was more just a statement of support or jesture. But I thank you for the welcome, never the less.

Mic

kintml2u
10-21-2004, 05:05 PM
You know--any one of us could get on here and spew lies about Martha Stewart prison stories and the major media outlets would probably pick it up and report it on the news...that is horrible. :blah:

That's why this country is going downhill. If any of these reporters had a speck of intelligence, they could/would/should be reporting on budget shortfall issues, minimum mandatory sentencing etc...but no....we get regurgitated fluff on sheets and cupcakes. :(

Makes me proud to be an American. :eek:

For goodness sake, please get out and VOTE on November 2. :thumbsup:

I second that "AMEN"!

justvicki
10-21-2004, 08:57 PM
Let me third that Amen!

titantoo
10-21-2004, 10:33 PM
It does...I got it wrong!
wow......for 9 years i thought lol meant "laugh out loud".

Rider4Life
10-22-2004, 02:30 AM
Hey ya'll... I can't believe the news picked up on a post here, what a trip. That is true what Miami wrote... anyone could write fluff about Martha S. and get put on the news. That's so sad. I wonder if the government has flagged this site and searches it for info on illegal acts in our prisons? Just a thought.

kintml2u
10-22-2004, 05:55 AM
Actually Rider, PTO has a policy intact concerning that, PTO does not allow it! I'll quote part of the Rules and Policies...

http://www.prisontalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23755

• Illegal Activities:
Threads/replies encouraging illegal/unethical action (like “The best way to kill the neighbor’s dog”), or more importantly, anything relating to compromising the security of prisons and institutions (ETC) will not be allowed. Posts such as these will be deleted and may lead to you losing your posting privileges.

haswtch
10-22-2004, 08:33 AM
yeah to Miamichica!

stillmommysgirl
10-22-2004, 02:24 PM
I just got news about my post being on the news. It is so low as to what the media will do to get a buck. I hope my post hasnt or wont cost anyone any shame or harm. IT WAS MEANT ONLY FOR GOOD NOT BAD. I cannot believe it. What you said is true anyone could post anything about her and the news would probably print it. I wish they wouldnt allow anyone connected with the media in these boards. That would be inpossible to do tho I guess. As with any inmate (all humans) I hope they all do well in or out of prison. I just hated the fake garb that was getting said and printed about Alderson. I guess I should have thought before writing anything. I like Martha Stewart and hope shes coping well. This has totally freaked me out. THE MEDIA SUCKS!

stillmommysgirl
10-22-2004, 02:50 PM
I just wanted to add, I Have no idea what "OP" stands for but I have not and will not talk to any reporters and I will NOT. If they said I did please someone let me know. I post on here and only here.

babycow
10-22-2004, 03:58 PM
I found the CNN Report:

Martha's adjusting to the big house
10/21/2004 8:10 PM
By: Deborah Feyerick | CNN



Inside the college-like campus of Alderson prison, inmate 55170-054 is getting along.

Martha Stewart is writing on her Web site, “The best news, everyone is nice” and that “the camp is like an old-fashioned college – without the freedom of course.”

In fact, it seems Stewart is quite popular.

On another Web site, prison talk online, an Internet user who goes by the name “Stillmommysgirl” said her mother recently got out of Alderson and that a friend told her Stewart is “very, very cool and a sweet and nice person.”

The writer also says Stewart “walks the track” with other inmates, spends time “in the library typing in her journal,” eats in the “chow hall” and complains about the food “just like the rest.”

The writer says Stewart has “made friends. Everyone loves her there and follows her around.” Her fellow inmates also help her stay out of the spotlight, by protecting her from picture takers.

Alderson inmates do not have access to the Internet. But the prison Web site is used by former inmates who stay in touch with women on the inside.

Prison officials would not confirm reports on the Web site that Stewart offered to provide name brand sheets to her Alderson pals.

Stewart will finish up orientation this week and be assigned a job, which could include gardening, cooking or baking like the other inmates.

She can walk around the grounds when the work-day ends at 3:30 p.m.

A prison official said it’s a rumor that Stewart picked crab apples to cook. Stewart, who nabbed a choice bottom bunk has been living in a two-story cottage with 80 women.

Stewart was busy last week meeting with her appeals lawyer.

He believes there are at least five major issues that could be grounds for reversing Stewart's conviction.

But by the time a judge decides Stewart could already be out of prison.




In my opinion, it is shamefull, how themedia can go, do, or quote whatever they want without permission. This reporter should have in the least, pm'd you and asked if they could use your post.

dazzler
10-22-2004, 04:34 PM
Babycow and Stillmommysgirl - this reporter, although morally questionnable, did nothing wrong. PTO is now the most popular web address that pops up on a search. Everything written on these forums is public information... As long as the source, PTO, and the author, Stillmommysgirl, are named, it is a legitimate news story. It doesn't matter if the information is true or not - if the source is quoted that's good enough for a story. It lays the burden of proof or error upon YOU or whoever else posts.....
These "journalists" will use whatever sources they can dig up to keep Martha Stewart stories in the limelight. They have no valid contacts on the inside so they grasp at straws for whatever tidbits they might find...

Although you would have preferred being asked your permission to broadcast or reprint your story by a PM or otherwise, they are not obligated, nor would they, do that. You were quoted and given credit for the information and that's all that's necessary.

Sorry you were caught up in this - so being informed is being warned that they are lurking here and will be for a long time. They will publish/air whatever information is obtained in these forums and they have every right to - remember, everytime one of us makes a post it is being PUBLISHED to the public.

Hopefully Martha will serve her sentence and get on with her life and the friends and families of inmates at Alderson will be left alone. We can only hope....

dazzler
10-22-2004, 04:37 PM
Oh, and by the way, I am a journalist also and I know several others on these forums that could have taken these posts and sold them to various news organizations...but WE wouldn't do that - we have respect for Martha, her family and everyone else who is suffering the loss of an inmate in prison...

kintml2u
10-22-2004, 04:44 PM
dazzler...and we totally respect you!

If anything comes from this, I hope those who find us in the media frenzy will become educated over the federal justice system and where reform could be done! Besides here...another good place to look is www.fedcure.org !

Martha...is a prime example! And there are thousands more like in her federal prisons today that do not need to be there! There are over 180,000 prisoners most of who have atleast 1 person on the outside who struggles daily with having a loved one inside!

titantoo
10-22-2004, 05:01 PM
I agree --well said!

dazzler...and we totally respect you!

If anything comes from this, I hope those who find us in the media frenzy will become educated over the federal justice system and where reform could be done! Besides here...another good place to look is www.fedcure.org (http://www.fedcure.org) !

Martha...is a prime example! And there are thousands more like in her federal prisons today that do not need to be there! There are over 180,000 prisoners most of who have atleast 1 person on the outside who struggles daily with having a loved one inside!

dazzler
10-22-2004, 05:02 PM
Thank you Kin - and ya know what? Maybe those trolling these forums for Martha stories should take a good, hard look at the suffering that goes on in our state and federal prisons and do constructive stories of the hardships faced by the inmates and the loved ones left behind. Incarceration IS the punishment - not being punished while being incarcerated. What fries me - Alderson being labeled Camp Cupcake - and why shouldn't it be?.... Prison is for the purpose of removing offenders from society - would they rather it be called Camp Torture? Our society is reaching a new level of smug morality - it would do well to remember - "There but for the grace of God go I.."

cjjack
10-22-2004, 07:52 PM
Very well said Dazzler!!

I was hoping beyond hope that the media would take this opportunity to shed light on the real issues facing federal inmates. So far they have been very disappointing. Who cares what Martha is eating for breakfast? The lady deserves her privacy, after all, prison is difficult no matter how long or how short their sentence is. I still have several friends in Alderson and what they tell me about Martha will not get posted here, at least not in the public forums.

I challenge any reporter to contact me or another federal member about what is really going on, about long and harsh mandotory minimum sentences, about the lack of federal parole and how we are trying to bring it back, about first time non-violent drug offenders serving horribly long sentences simply based on the word of another. LETS TALK ABOUT WHATS REAL, MEMBERS OF THE MEDIA!!!!!

titantoo
10-22-2004, 08:14 PM
Just now watching her lawyer and daughter on Larry King Live
(never usually watch this...was just channel flicking) on CNN.
I think the daughter is saying some good things on offenders behalf.
Like the silly rules about having books and not being able to donate them to the library..eg the daughter said something like"
I guess they don't want the prison libraries to have books"
(because you have to send the books you get back home!)
she also said some of the other inmates are wonderful and the cos are
kind and helpful. She also commented how difficult it is for those that do not have money etc
and the visiting is fine. She hopes her mum will get involved in causes,
She said the food is awfull....not too bad for Martha because she is only there for 5 months...others are there for 10 years. She complains about lack of education things for those that want it etc.
Maybe my hopes and optimism are valid. I really pray (and I am not at all religous) that Martha Stewart can really do something!
The daughter just reiterated that the inmates are wonderful and all the bad reports re violence etc are not true and harmful to the offenders and their
famillies. Alexis (the daughter) seemed nice, sincere and tired!

titantoo
10-22-2004, 08:57 PM
I agree totally but...if MS's fame and fortune can be put to good use in any way to help offenders and the system I am very much in favour of using it in addition or whatever....prisoners, their famillies and prison/system reform needs all the help it can get.


Very well said Dazzler!!

I was hoping beyond hope that the media would take this opportunity to shed light on the real issues facing federal inmates. So far they have been very disappointing. Who cares what Martha is eating for breakfast? The lady deserves her privacy, after all, prison is difficult no matter how long or how short their sentence is. I still have several friends in Alderson and what they tell me about Martha will not get posted here, at least not in the public forums.

I challenge any reporter to contact me or another federal member about what is really going on, about long and harsh mandotory minimum sentences, about the lack of federal parole and how we are trying to bring it back, about first time non-violent drug offenders serving horribly long sentences simply based on the word of another. LETS TALK ABOUT WHATS REAL, MEMBERS OF THE MEDIA!!!!!

haswtch
10-22-2004, 09:25 PM
the thing that intrigues me with martha is, eventually the surreality of the idea that putting people in little boxes fixes anything has got to become clear. I say GO ALDERSON COOKING CLUB! and it is the responsiblility of a journalist looking for the truth to seek it wherever, and you did not say anything bad, stillmommysgirl. Just some truth.
myself I am a journalist and a person who needs PTO like oxygen, and if I ever need to quote anybody, I will ask them, and if they aren't THRILLED it's not happening. I am still seeking ways to use my gift for writing as a service to humanity and not an exploitation. believe me the ones who do exploitation live "better," at least in their own minds:)

dazzler
10-22-2004, 09:40 PM
Hello Has my friend, you are one of those fellow journos I was referring to...way to go, girly....

However, for a bit of levity, I sure hope to see Martha creating the new Alderson Cupcake on her show in the future...:)

cjjack
10-22-2004, 09:44 PM
Oh, I really do believe that Martha could do so much good when she is released. I am certainly praying that she does, anyway!!


Alderson Cupcake, LOL!!!!!!!

dazzler
10-22-2004, 09:48 PM
Cjjack - maybe we could just make a recipe up and put it out on PTO and attribute it to Martha - claim she makes it at Alderson and see where the story goes....LOL???????

cjjack
10-22-2004, 09:50 PM
That would be hilarious!!

dazzler
10-22-2004, 09:56 PM
Well, what kinda cupcakes are these going to be? Devil's Food? Angel Food? SPONGE cake? C'mon girls....I know you've got some good suggestions...

cjjack
10-22-2004, 10:00 PM
Well, Angel Food, of course!!!!!

cjjack
10-22-2004, 10:04 PM
How about "Marthas Awesome Alderson Angel Food Cupcakes-With Crab Apple Icing!"

dazzler
10-22-2004, 10:09 PM
Cjjack - you've got my mouth watering...they sound delicious...now who's got a recipe for angel food cupcakes...I'll work on the icing...we should have this published shortly....

babycow
10-23-2004, 04:59 AM
lol you guys are too much!

titantoo
10-23-2004, 09:00 AM
We welcome to LARRY KING LIVE a return visit for Alexis Stewart, Martha Stewart's daughter, and David Chesnoff. He's Martha Stewart's attorney and friend. He filed an appeal on Martha Stewart's conviction -- conviction, rather, on Wednesday, and we'll discuss that with him in a moment.

It's been two weeks since she's been in prison. How many times have you seen her?

ALEXIS STEWART, MARTHA STEWART'S DAUGHTER: Five so far.

KING: How often are you allowed to go? What's the rules?

STEWART: You can go Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday and holidays.

KING: What kind of trip is it from New York to remote West Virginia?

STEWART: It's a good eight hours.

KING: You drive it?

STEWART: I drove last time. Flying takes almost as long, so -- because you have to make a connection and drive.

KING: So how's she doing?

STEWART: She's fine. She's fine, you know. Friends of mine I think are sometimes uncomfortable whether or not they should say, you know, how's your mother? And I understand that. It's weird. What would be really weird and uncomfortable is if my mother were really a criminal, but she's not. So she's doing her job. KING: All right. Since you view it that way...

STEWART: Yeah.

KING: ... and she views herself as not a criminal, isn't that harder?

STEWART: Well, my...

KING: If someone did something, at least they could say, well, I deserve this.

STEWART: It might be more difficult to stomach having to be there, but it's not more difficult to stand up and say, you know, I didn't do anything wrong. I am, you know, an innocent person and...

KING: Do they all wear the same clothes in that prison?

STEWART: Essentially, of sweats or khakis. It's actually an outfit not unlike one she would wear in normal life.

KING: I'll get to you in a minute, David. I haven't forgotten. Has she made friends?

STEWART: Yeah, lots of friends. The inmates are wonderful, really lovely women.

KING: Is she popular among them, do you gather?

STEWART: I think so. I think so. Yeah.

KING: What was it like when she went that morning?

STEWART: It was horrible, it was really upsetting.

KING: Did you go with her?

STEWART: Yes. I went with her. I went with her. And to leave her there was just miserable. Very upsetting. I got to go see her, luckily, that afternoon, and just to tell you who's holding up better, as usual, one of the inmates, or maybe it was a visitor, another visitor, said -- asked who was the younger sister? So she withstood it much better than I did.

KING: So what's the procedure in that prison, that's a federal prison, for visitors?

STEWART: You have to submit a form.

KING: Does she have a list of who can come?

STEWART: Yes. She has a list. I think it's about 20 people long, at the most. And you submit the form. You get there early in the morning or anytime between, I think, 8:00 and 8:00 at night. And you have to -- you go in basically with nothing.

KING: They search, or they take away your handbag?

STEWART: You just don't bring it in, you leave it in the car. You're not allowed to even bring your handbag in.

KING: And what's the setting like where you meet?

STEWART: It's relatively comfortable. Open room, not unlike an airport waiting room.

KING: Can you go outside?

STEWART: You can go outside in a specific area and take a walk, or sit in the sun.

KING: What does she talk about?

STEWART: Well, we talk about the normal things. You know, we play scrabble, and...

KING: You play scrabble?

STEWART: Yes. She was having a lot of fun playing scrabble until I started beating her. Now she decided she doesn't want to play.

KING: You've visited her too, David?

DAVID CHESNOFF, MARTHA STEWART'S ATTORNEY: Yes, I've been down to see her. I went along with Walter Dellinger and Marty Weinberg, the fellows who worked on the brief together with me. And we went over the brief with her, actually, the purpose of the visit -- because Martha was very interested in seeing that it was a good brief and a good appeal. And we had a great visit with her.

KING: If you win this appeal, it's a Pyhrric victory, isn't it? She's in prison?

CHESNOFF: Well, she's in prison, and of course everybody was upset that she's in prison, especially the people on the appeal who actually believe in her factual innocence.

KING: But if she wins, what?

CHESNOFF: If she wins, her name is cleared.

(CROSSTALK)

KING: ... before she gets out?

CHESNOFF: No, but perhaps she will be out to hear us argue the appeal, which would make me very happy.

KING: What if they say new trial?

CHESNOFF: We're ready to go.

KING: You'd go back through a new trial again?

CHESNOFF: Absolutely.

KING: What happens if they say new trial, and God forbid for her, it's guilty in the new trial. Does she serve time again?

CHESNOFF: Well, I don't think that's what happens in the law. I think that the end has already occurred, actually. She has served her sentence. Perhaps if we win the appeal, the government will see the error of its way and not even bring a new trial. And that would be the just thing to do, in light of the fact that there were so many errors committed in prosecuting her. The unfairness of this prosecution and the unfairness of the trial is the thrust of what we're arguing.

KING: Can she do business in prison?

STEWART: No, she cannot.

KING: She can't talk about work? Or she can talk about work, right? Or what? What can she...

STEWART: I don't know what the specifics are. Luckily, I'm not that involved with the company at this point to need to worry about what...

KING: What can and can't she do, David, company-wise?

CHESNOFF: She's not allowed to perform company business. It's just not permitted.

KING: So she can't get on the phone and they can't tell her what the magazine is going to do next month?

CHESNOFF: No, but...

STEWART: I think they could tell her, but she might not be able to comment on it. Right?

CHESNOFF: Right. And she's in good -- you know, she left the magazine for a reason, to get it behind her, to get back to work, and it's in great hands. That was the whole idea. She has people that she's worked with and trained for years and years, and for this five month hiatus, she's comfortable that she will follow the prison regulations and the company will do well.

KING: Do they monitor her phone calls?

CHESNOFF: They can.

KING: What do the guards, the wardens, what are the people like who run the prison?

STEWART: They're very friendly and polite and helpful. They've been very helpful getting her in there without a fuss and helping me go visit, you know, the first day. KING: Does she get any extra treatment?

STEWART: No.

KING: No special treatment?

STEWART: No, not at all.

KING: What are her living conditions like? Is it a cell or a dorm?

STEWART: At the moment -- there are no cells with...

KING: Bars.

STEWART: ... bars. I don't even think there's a fence all the way around the property. The fence seems to be there more to keep people out than keep people in. And they -- she has one roommate at the moment, in a dorm-type building that has 80 people in it, I think.

KING: Does she watch television?

STEWART: She can. I think she watches at night, the news.

KING: I know in minimum security prisons, you can get up at 2:00 in the morning, if you want, and watch TV.

CHESNOFF: I don't think it's as loose as that, Larry. And she does a lot of reading, she's told me, and...

KING: You bring her books?

CHESNOFF: Well, we ship her books. She's allowed to have five hard cover books at a time, five soft covers.

STEWART: No, at the moment, I think she's only allowed to have five books...

KING: Total?

STEWART: It's one of the bizarre rules of the federal prison and camps is that you can five books at a time. And when you're done with them, you need to mail them home. You may not put them in the prison library, so -- which seems perverse and absurd.

KING: What is the reason for that?

STEWART: I guess they don't want the prison to be full of books. It would be a terrible thing. I don't -- I'm sure there are...

KING: Who chooses the books, does she tell you what she wants?

STEWART: I choose -- yes. Sometimes. Or I choose things that I think she would enjoy.

KING: Does she read daily newspapers? STEWART: Yes. She does. But she has to order those herself. So everyone else -- there are no newspapers supplied to the prison. There is no Internet access. So all of those really lovely women that are there, for some a very long time, unless they have the money to subscribe themselves, or -- all they have is the one television channel that everyone else is watching.

KING: No one knows her better than you. How is she really doing? In other words, how is her...

STEWART: She's great.

KING: ... attitude?

STEWART: She's great. She knows how long she has got to be there, and she's making the most of it.

KING: She's not putting it on for her daughter?

STEWART: No. No.

KING: Has her mother been there?

STEWART: Not yet.

KING: Will she be able to make that trip?

STEWART: Well, yes, she will.

KING: She's 90, isn't she?

STEWART: But it's not easy. It would have been a lot nicer if -- and more fair maybe, I mean, this is an issue for all prisoners that are being sentenced and sent away, they try to be near their families, but the Bureau of Prisons likes to assert their control. So even though the judge recommended that my mother be close to home, I think they may have made a point of sending her far away.

CHESNOFF: In defense of the Bureau of Prisons, though, Larry, they were also concerned that in Danbury, which was the place she wanted to be, it might be more accessible to paparazzi and things like that.

KING: Are paparazzi in West Virginia?

STEWART: Yes, they are. They're waiting...

KING: (UNINTELLIGIBLE) like they go over...

STEWART: Oh, yeah. They go, especially on the weekends, I think, and...

KING: Take picture of people going in?

STEWART: They've contacted -- they constantly follow you to your hotel room and knock on the door and ask to talk. And I think they've written a letter to every inmate, saying that any information they could provide would be very valuable.

KING: They'll pay for it?

STEWART: I think that means they're paying for it.

KING: We'll be right back with Alexis Stewart and David Chesnoff. Still to come, Tatum O'Neal. You're watching LARRY KING LIVE in New York. Don't go away.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

KING: The question is obvious. Why you?

MARTHA STEWART: Well, we don't know.

KING: Why do you think you?

M. STEWART: Many people have said that it is because I am a woman. Many people have said it is because I am a business person, a successful business person. But maybe so. I don't know for sure. I think...

KING: What do you think?

STEWART: I don't know. I think it was a combination and a coincidence. And I think that even though the government says there's no such thing as coincidence, I think there is coincidence in this world.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

M. STEWART: The past two years and seven months and it has been that long have been a time of immense difficulty, immense sacrifice and immense agony not only for me but for my loved ones. My daughter Alexis, the rest of my family, my friends, my colleagues, and all our business partners and all the related people of our extended family who depend on the good works of Martha Stewart Living Omnimedia for their livelihoods and day-to-day existence.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

KING: We're back with Alexis Stewart, Martha Stewart's daughter and David Chesnoff. This is her one and only interview since her mother went to prison. Has she been assigned a job?

STEWART: Not yet. It takes a while to get assigned a job. I think they like you to get comfortable.

KING: Does she do any kind of work? When she gets up in the morning what does she do?

STEWART: She exercises. There's a nice walk you can take, I think it's a mile and a half long. There's a nice gym with stairmasters and that kind of thing. She reads, and she gets up before anyone else, I think.

KING: Does everyone eat together?

STEWART: They do. There's breakfast, lunch and dinner.

KING: Knowing Martha, what does she say about the food and part two, has she changed any of the food?

STEWART: I'm sure she could give them quite a few pointers but I think that the budget is so limited that, you know, I'm not sure how much change they'd be willing to make.

KING: What does she say about the food?

STEWART: It's -- it's -- not very good.

KING: Airplane?

STEWART: It's not just that it's airplane. I think airplane would be better. It's just -- it's terrible. It's not going to affect her that badly because she's only there for five months. But people spend ten years there. And you have these people who want to learn, want to be rehabilitated, want to get out and know things and be good citizens. And they're not -- there's no budget to teach them anything, to feed them well enough so that when they get out, they won't in their old age be unhealthy and a burden to society because they'll be sick earlier than they should be.

KING: Do you expect your mom to get involved in causes?

STEWART: I hope she does.

KING: Do you think she will?

STEWART: I think she will.

KING: Because she's the one telling you these things, right?

STEWART: She is. Yes.

KING: Do you talk to other prisoners as well?

STEWART: Yes.

KING: You do. She's been typing in the library, it's been reported. Is she writing a diary, writing a book?

STEWART: Well, I think we've always expected her to write a book about her life. I don't think it will be limited to her time in prison, but, yes, she's always taking notes, ideas. She can't -- she can't e-mail anyone, so she often types up thoughts about her properties, or what she needs me to do, and then sends them to me.

KING: Can she give it to you? STEWART: No, she cannot give it to me. She can mail it to me.

KING: Wait a minute, she can't hand it to you but she can mail it to you?

STEWART: Yes.

KING: What's the chief argument in the appeal do you think where they will say we're going to overturn?

Well, everybody had this concept that somehow Martha was involved in corporate insider trading which was completely false.

KING: She was never charged with that?

CHESNOFF: Never charged with it, never did it. In fact, Martha didn't do anything wrong. The chief issue is the jury was permitted over and over again to hear the government talk about insider trading when there was no proof of it and most egregiously the court did not let Martha respond and explain to the jury why there was no insider trading. You had a juror who took it on himself to have a press conference on the courthouse steps to say how happy he was that they convicted her of insider trading. Combined with the fact that they played over and over again Bacanovic's SEC testimony which he gave under oath without allowing Martha Stewart's attorneys an opportunity to cross-examine him because they were in a join trial.

KING: Do you think that's a key to overturn?

CHESNOFF: Absolutely. Justice Scalia has just written it in the Crawford case and we believe it's right on point.

KING: She didn't take the stand so she couldn't say it was not insider trading, right?

CHESNOFF: There was defense. They had experts available. They had people from the company. The judge would not permit it.

KING: I see. By the way does she get letters in prison, are people writing to her?

STEWART: Yes. She's gotten at least 10,000 letters.

KING: 10,000 letters?

STEWART: As of last weekend.

KING: Does she get gifts? Do people send her things?

STEWART: She can't receive gifts so she asks that no one send her gifts and if they wish to send gifts or money they should send it to the American Cancer Society.

KING: How many times have you been there?

CHESNOFF: I've been down there one time. We had an extensive meeting and she's holding up well. But people need to remember, she's in prison and we're hoping to vindicate her because as I said earlier, Larry, we believe in her factual...

KING: Are you glad she went before the appeal?

CHESNOFF: No. I was very upset about it.

KING: You wanted her to stay out?

CHESNOFF: It was very difficult for me. My job as a lawyer is to keep people out. We had kept her out. The judge had given her permission to stay out. But she had business concerns. She was worried about her employees. That's Martha. I mean, Martha's a hardworking person. I think that's one of the reason why she's adjusting so well in prison. She's worked her whole life. She wasn't born with a silver spoon. She works 18 hour days. When I first met her, I saw her out in the garden with her dungarees rolled up. Being in jail is a state of mind and Martha's overcoming it.

KING: Were you glad she went in?

STEWART: No, of course, I wasn't glad she went in...

KING: No, I mean, getting it over with.

STEWART: But I understand her reasons.

Her life is her company. She wants to get back to work. What else could she do?

KING: Why is it called Camp Cupcake.

STEWART: I don't know. I think that's a very old name, why, because there's only women there. A cute thing to call it. I think that's from quite a while ago.

KING: Did she prepare to go to prison? How do you prepare to go to prison?

STEWART: You've got a lot to do to set your life in order before you go away.

KING: Bank accounts?

STEWART: Everything. With her, it's 100 times more than the average person.

KING: What clothes do you bring?

STEWART: You wear something in and they give you your clothes.

CHESNOFF: She prepared, though, like Martha Stewart would. She studied what happens when you get there, she got the rules from the Bureau of Prisons and learned them so she was prepared like other inmates are. She took it seriously and knew that she wanted to be as comfortable as could be and follow the rules. KING: Do they have a movie night?

STEWART: I don't know if they have a movie night.

CHESNOFF: I don't know that either.

CHESNOFF: There are four or five videos in the library, which I think she's watched all of them. There are also a lot of documentaries, so she can watch those.

KING: We'll be back in our remaining moments with Alexis Stewart and David Chesnoff. And then we'll meet Tatum O'Neal on this edition of LARRY KING LIVE.

Senator Edwards and Alexandra Kerry on Monday night. Don't go away.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

M. STEWART: Pundits are out there saying she should go in. Do they know what it's like to go to jail? I don't think they know.

KING: Everybody seems to all -- a lot of people are saying, I'd go through it, I'd get it over with.

M. STEWART: Why? Why do they say that? Would they do it themselves.

KING: They say it for you.

M. STEWART: Of course. It's easy to say what somebody else should do, but what to do is the problem.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

KING: Alexis, "People" magazine reported that Martha has asked her fellow inmates to respect her privacy and not take photos of her. Are they allowed to have cameras there?

STEWART: No, they're not, but it seems that one of the visitors snuck one into the visiting area.

KING: And took a picture of her?

STEWART: Yes.

KING: That appeared?

STEWART: Yes. There are a few inmates that take pictures and you can buy them from -- it's a little service they provide. And you can purchase those pictures.

KING: Do they have like a PX where you can buy things like candy, gum? STEWART: It would be nicer if you could buy linens and fresh vegetables, but, yes, they do.

KING: The Secret Serviceman who later we found out who didn't tell the truth, and was acquitted, is he in the appeal?

CHESNOFF: Yes, he is, because of the significant fact is that we should have been able to show the jury that federal agents lie. This whole case was allegedly about Martha lying. She was never under oath, it was never recorded, the questions weren't written down, yet you had a federal Secret Service employee, the chief of their forensic lab perjure himself, you have a juror perjure himself. These are the kinds of things that as a trial lawyer, you could tell the jury, the government case would have gone up in smoke and Martha wouldn't be in prison.

KING: But he was acquitted.

CHESNOFF: Recently. But it's interesting, they were more zealous in their prosecution of Martha, apparently, than they were in the recent prosecution of this fellow.

KING: Now tell me, is your mother going to do a reality show when she comes out?

STEWART: She is working with Mark Burnett.

KING: The famous Mark Burnett.

STEWART: The famous Mark Burnett.

KING: What kind of show would it be, bringing up daughter?

STEWART: I hope not. I don't know exactly. I spent a week with both of them hiking up in Maine. But I haven't been privy to their private conversations.

KING: How do you think she'll deal with Thanksgiving and Christmas?

STEWART: I'm sure it will be very hard for her. She loves the holidays. But on Thanksgiving, a whole bunch of her family members are going down.

KING: Does she have friends that go too?

STEWART: Sure. Lots of friends of go and visit.

KING: When is her release date? If she serves a full 5 months, she's out when?

STEWART: Beginning of March.

KING: When will the appeal be heard?

CHESNOFF: That's up to the second circuit. But we estimate the oral argument will occur sometime right after the first of the year.

KING: Did Martha know you were coming here tonight?

STEWART: Yes, sure, I spoke to her right before.

KING: Anything she wanted to say to people?

STEWART: Well, she thanks everyone for all their letters. And she wants everyone to know that all those horrible things written about the camps and the inmates are not true. That obviously, it's not a great place to be, because it's a horrible thing to be in prison and lose your freedom, but the women there are wonderful and all those reports really harmed their families, made them worry.

KING: What kind of reports were they?

STEWART: Reports that there's abuse and violence in the camp. It's simply not true. And it's just sensationalism.

CHESNOFF: She also wanted everybody to know that she still has faith in the justice system, that this appeal is part of the system, to determine if a citizen got a fair trial, and she's confident that once the law and the facts are examined, that she's going to be vindicated.

KING: Because technically, she could save a lot of money, drop the appeal.

CHESNOFF: Well of course, but it's about her reputation and it's about the truth. She's was not guilty. And she's maintained that. She could have taken the easy road out many, many times but has insisted on telling the truth without blaming anybody else.

KING: Her co-defendant, Peter Bacanovic, he's still out?

CHESNOFF: He's out. And he's appealing as well.

KING: Has he been sentenced?

CHESNOFF: Yes. He received a sentence...

STEWART: The same sentence, wasn't it?

CHESNOFF: I think it's slightly longer.

KING: One other thing, Alexis, there are reports you're being groomed to take over Martha Stewart Omnimedia. How true is that?

STEWART: I think that's a large exaggeration. But I've been involved with -- heard about the company, helped my mother, consulted with my mother, been her confidante for the entire life of the company.

KING: Does that mean you might be interested?

STEWART: Yes. Well, you never know. KING: In other words, it's within the realm of possibilities. It does not disinterest you?

STEWART: No, it does not disinterest me.

KING: Give her our best.

STEWART: I shall.

KING: And thank you for coming.

CHESNOFF: Thanks a lot, Mr. King.

KING: Good luck, David.

No, it's Larry.

CHESNOFF: Thank you.

KING: Alexis Stewart, David Chesnoff on the subject of Martha Stewart. Still getting 10,000 letters.

STEWART: At least.

KING: And when we come back, Tatum O'Neal joins us. Don't go away.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

dazzler
10-23-2004, 09:30 AM
Okay - I'll admit it - I was one of those l0,000 letters. I sent her a letter of support the first day she went. Call me corny but I think she got a bad rap....

babycow
10-23-2004, 10:30 AM
do you think she even reads her mail?

could you even imagine working the mailroom there, while Martha's there? LOL

I guess also thats sad......that Martha gets 10,000 letters, and we all know there are some who get no mail at all.

kintml2u
10-23-2004, 01:15 PM
do you think she even reads her mail?

could you even imagine working the mailroom there, while Martha's there? LOL

I guess also thats sad......that Martha gets 10,000 letters, and we all know there are some who get no mail at all.

Here is a good example...we all know Martha is getting tons of mail! If you send a card of support and encouragement, ask Martha to pass it along to someone who doesn't get any mail! You never know who's day you might make! You may gain a wonderful friend from it as well!

dazzler
10-23-2004, 07:04 PM
Cjjack - well here goes: MARTHA'S AWESOME ALDERSON CUPCAKES WITH CRABAPPLE FROSTING -

Cake:

3 c. all-purpose flour
1 1/2 t. baking soda
2 t. cinnamon
1 t. cloves
1 t. nutmeg
1 t. salt
1 c. butter, softened (2 sticks)
1 1/2 c. firmly packed brown sugar
2 large eggs
2 c. thick crabapple applesauce
2 c. finely chopped walnuts

Whisk together the flour, salt, spices and baking soda. Set aside. Beat the butter until creamy and gradually add the brown sugar and continue beating until light and fluffy. Beat in the eggs.
Add the dry ingredients in 3 parts, alternating with the 2 cups applesauce. Beat on low speed until mixed thoroughly. Stir in the walnuts.
Grease and flour 24-count cupcake pans and divide batter equally.
Bake at 350 degrees for about 30 minutes or until toothpick inserted comes out clean. Cool 10 minutes and remove from the pans. Yield: 24 cupcakes

To Make Crabapple applesauce:

18 -20 crabapples (or 5-6 tart apples, like granny smith)
1/3 c. granulated sugar
1 T. lemon juice
1/2 t. salt
1/2 t. cinnamon

Peel, core and rough chop the apples. Place in saucepan with remaining ingredients.
Cook over medium heat until apples are soft 40 to 50 minutes. Stir frequently with a wooden spoon to prevent apples from scorching. When soft, puree the apples to make a smooth sauce. If necessary add small amount of water but the sauce should be thick.

Crabapple Frosting:

1 8-ounce package cream cheese, softened
1 1/2 sticks butter (12 tablespoons)
1 t. vanilla
1 t. cinnamon
1/2 c. thick crabapple applesauce
5-6 c. powdered sugar

Cream together butter and cream cheese. Add applesauce, vanilla and cinnamon. When smooth, gradually add powdered sugar and beat until spreading consistency. Chill until ready to use.

Frost cooled Alderson cupcakes and keep refrigerated until ready to use.

My sister and I developed these recipes today and they are sin-sational. They have a light spice cake flavor and apple-flavored cream cheese frosting....

So now Alderson has an official cupcake...we just need to get the recipe to Martha...

cjjack
10-23-2004, 07:12 PM
WOW!!!!!! GREAT JOB!!! I am impressed.....................!!!!

dazzler
10-23-2004, 07:19 PM
You can be in charge of marketing....LOL

cjjack
10-23-2004, 07:19 PM
LOL, ok, I'll do it!!

dazzler
10-24-2004, 09:00 AM
Cjjack - when I got up this morning the whole plate of Alderson cupcakes is gone....I wonder how many times to double that recipe for 1600?? Hmmmm.....

tvreporter
10-26-2004, 01:00 PM
Hello all--with respect I am wondering if there are any former Alderson inmates in the st. Louis area or missouri area who would be wiling to talk to me about the prison and their experiences. Please contact me if you are or know of anyone like that. My e-mail is email edited per PTO Policies and Rules
Thank you

eppsgrl70
10-26-2004, 02:48 PM
we can only hope that Martha's experience will shed like on the injustice system. Maybe this will help the public to see that innocent people can really be sent to prison for crimes that are just so bogus.

Zelda50
10-27-2004, 04:30 PM
TV Report: Since you live in St. Louis, you might want to also do a story on the Keefe Commissary Network, part of the Keefe Supply Company, which is headquartered in St. Louis. Delve into how this company supplies the BOP commissaries, as well as tons of other state corrections systems, reaping exhorbitant profits at the expense of inmate families. And how the owner of the Keefe Corporation is a board member of the Republican Leadership Council. Hmmm - work to have Republicans elected, who then vote for lengthy mandatory sentences, resulting in voting money for more prisons, which then sell more commissary supplies. You get the picture ? The U.S. prison industrial complex. Now you see why lengthy mandated sentences still exist??? Martha's story is such a little one compared to the real issues here. Zelda

point of light
10-27-2004, 08:09 PM
TVReporter: WHEN WHEN WHEN will the press listen to us, the real people who suffer daily from the *Unjust* Justice Department...Must we all be Martha Stewarts before the public will be informed of the truth?

Report the truth about the Keefe Supply Company, then maybe we'll tell you about Alderson.

eppsgrl70
10-28-2004, 07:51 AM
That is so true point and Zelda. We're the ones on the outside who bust our butts to make sure our loved ones have what they need. I work really hard to make sure my man has money on his books and then he's in VA county lock up and when I send him money, money is taken off for his $1 day. That may not seem like a lot but when he has to pay $1.25 for oodles of noodles that I can by at the grocery store for .10 then it's insane. Those are the real stories. We will all hear about Martha's stories when she's released but what about all the other Martha's in this world behind those walls. Think about them and their families who make a fraction of what Martha makes in a year. Martha makes more in a minute then I do in a year. LOL. Not that she's not suffering, don't get me wrong but her family can afford to put money and more money on her books what about those of us who are now working on one income supporting a family of 4. Those are the real stories......

stillmommysgirl
10-28-2004, 11:50 PM
Has anyone heard anything about LIL Kim maybe going to Alderson? LOL Guess this is another CNN story. ( I dont not want to be quoted on any of my post)

eppsgrl70
10-29-2004, 07:34 AM
what would she be going for. I need to watch the news more often.

PatitoDeHule
10-29-2004, 10:01 AM
Has anyone heard anything about LIL Kim maybe going to Alderson? LOL Guess this is another CNN story. ( I dont not want to be quoted on any of my post)My daughter wrote yesterday and said she's at Carswell and going to be transferred to Alderson to be with her mother. I hadn't heard a word of it? What's she in for?

eppsgrl70
10-29-2004, 10:16 AM
from what I read she isn't in yet. I read her trial is set for November 25. It's for perjury or something.

PatitoDeHule
10-29-2004, 11:38 AM
from what I read she isn't in yet. I read her trial is set for November 25. It's for perjury or something.I don't know nothin' 'bout no trial, but it seems like Lil Kim is still free. My daughter can report rumors and make them sound like personal experience; maybe that's what she did here.

stillmommysgirl
10-30-2004, 09:34 AM
I dont know nothing about Lil Kim cause I dont like her music lol but I was told shes going to Alderson , Maybe its just a rumor. I havent heard anything on the news either just by someone saying it to me.

kintml2u
10-30-2004, 10:07 AM
Lil' Kim, whose real name is Kimberly Jones, is awaiting a February trial on charges that she lied to a grand jury investigating the shooting.

Her bodyguard, Suif Jackson #52081-054. has been sentenced to 12 years. He is currently showing "in-transit"

stillmommysgirl
10-31-2004, 09:26 PM
I just heard today that shes going on trial for lying in court?

robertmaryc
11-06-2004, 12:06 PM
November 2, 2004 -- Martha Stewart was so appalled by dirt in staff offices at her West Virginia prison that she got "down on her hands and knees, scrubbing the floor," a Big House source told The Post.

"She was complaining about how nasty the place was," said the source, whose close relative is at the federal prison camp in Alderson, W.Va., where Stewart went on her cleaning frenzy. "So I guess she knows how to work."

The Post previously revealed Stewart recently won a plum work assignment — cleaning the offices of top facility officials.

While the 63-year-old Stewart cast a disapproving eye on the state of the prison offices, officials have been eyeing the lifestyle guru over some dirty business of her own.

Stewart has won the nickname "Contraband Queen" from other inmates for hoarding items that are off-limits to prisoners in their rooms, the source said.

"She's right in there with all the girls when it comes to scrounging from the kitchen and cooking in the rooms," the source said.

Stewart's picking crab apples off trees on the prison's grounds to make treats has landed her in hot water with prison authorities.

"She got called into the lieutenant's office a couple of times for that, and the third time they wrote her a 'shot,' " the source said. A "shot" is a punishment for violating prison rules.

cjjack
11-06-2004, 12:11 PM
Just more journalistic sensationalism.

If I had a dollar every time an inmate took food out of food service, I'd be rich. Almost all do it.

Picking crab apples is not against the rules.

Cleaning ANYTHING in prison is not a plum assignment.

I have been there and therefore believe almost nothing that is written by the press about what Martha Stewart is supposedly doing.

justvicki
11-06-2004, 09:33 PM
Things must have really gotten lax since I left Alderson. The cottages are old, but you can see your reflection in the buffed tile floors! I think the "dirt" is in most of the articles the media is spewing out and not in the West Virginia prison where Martha is being housed. Can't belive she got a shot! PUHLEASE. I'm with you, Chrisa, inmates taking food from CDR? Who'da thunk it!

mach1
11-16-2004, 11:33 AM
OK ... This is getting ridiculous! This was just printed on the savemartha website ... "Golden Phone Calls??" Pleeeeeeeaaaaaaaaassssssssssssseeeeeee ... What the world won't don't to cash in on someones pain and tragedy ... Unbelievable! I just needed to vent ... Thanks for the listen!! ;)

Tabloid Terror Alert Part II:
Star Magazine: MARTHA'S PRISON ROOMMATE REVEALED! (http://www.starmagazine.com/news/61509)



For the past six weeks the tabs have been burning up the phone lines, calling every possible inmate on the public phone at Alderson Federal Prison camp. Enquiring minds want to know everything they can about what Martha is doing on an hourly basis. Is she picking crabapples, making quilts out of old uniforms, or just hot-wiring the microwave to simulate the effects of an outdoor grill? These savvy reporters tell desperate inmates who would do anything for a few extra bucks that any information they can provide would be quite "VALUABLE."

Can you imagine the look on an inmates face when they receive the golden phone call? For an incarcerated woman who has likely never had very much in life and has probably lost what little she ever had, it must seem like winning the lottery. Believe it or not, more often than not, the tabs actually report the truth. And since they pay good money for it, they ought to. However, it is not what they report but how they report it that is objectionable. Does every story have to include the words Wild, Revealed, or Shocker? Are famous peoples lives really that insanely dramatic, or do we just want to pretend that their lives are so much better/worse than our own?

The Star's inside scoop (http://www.starmagazine.com/news/61509) on Martha's new roommate in Alderson's housing unit J-11 is "Kimberly Renee Bennett, 32, who's serving a 50-month sentence for her involvement in a North Carolina- based cocaine-distribution and money-laundering ring." Evidently Martha and Kimberly get along fine, the two of them share microwaved meals, Martha got to take the bottom bunk, and Kimberly even gave Martha a neck massage.

Contrast this picture of relative calm and safety to the story in another tab, depicting Martha (http://www.savemartha.com/#anchor5) as if she were a victim of domestic violence (as opposed to journalistic malpractice), which has upset so many unwitting grocery shoppers caught off guard on the checkout line. By all accounts, besides the fact that she is in jail, has no freedom, and is not allowed to help save peoples jobs at her company, Martha is doing just fine. It's the rest of us I am worried about; until Martha is released, we will have to keep marching past those headlines.

kintml2u
11-16-2004, 02:02 PM
OK...since when does prison public (lol) telephones have INCOMING CALLS...

Have I missed something the past 7+ years...or is it, they have my phone number blocked? Sure enough...and I know I'm not alone, I HAVE tried to call those numbers back!

I think the last line...is the best advice!
until Martha is released, we will have to keep marching past those headlines.

eppsgrl70
11-16-2004, 02:06 PM
I was going to say the same thing. You don't know how many times I've gotten into an argument or something wasn't settled with my man and wish I could call that number back on the caller ID.

cjjack
11-16-2004, 02:46 PM
The tabloids report the truth??? Uh, so sorry, having been there I can assure everyone they don't!! In fact, Vicki (guysgal) and I have had quite a few laughs over the stories coming from Alderson!

eppsgrl70
11-16-2004, 02:48 PM
I can only imagine cjjack. I heard all this on the radio this morning and just started laughing.

justvicki
11-16-2004, 07:38 PM
Yeah, right, incoming phone calls for inmates! Boy, Alderson sure has changed from the days when you could loose your phone privileges for six months if you were caught having a conversation with two people in the same house using an extension phone (that's considered a "three-way" call)!!!!

Give me a break.........give us all a break and just let Martha do her time and cut the crap! :)

mach1
11-16-2004, 08:57 PM
What will be next? UFO's landing at Alderson ... I mean it is pure silliness ... Who in the world buys this garbage? Next they'll be saying Martha kicked the warden out of her office for a price and she's running her Biz-ness out of there ... Ridiculous! Come on "Golden Phone Calls?" Who come's up with this anyway????

kintml2u
11-17-2004, 05:38 AM
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babycow
11-21-2004, 05:35 AM
Incoming phone calls? That cracks me up! That would totally defeat the purpose of an approved phone list!


I was just droppin by to see what was goin on in this thread. Apparently 2,350 views! Pretty popular.


Just can't wait to see what the press has to say next!

babycow
11-21-2004, 05:36 AM
oh yeah, I don't buy that garbage but it's funny to read in the checkout while waiting...:ha: