View Full Version : Who are the "BAD GUYS" in Kingston Pen? (Story B)
Menally-Ill 01-08-2003, 04:44 PM Brian Kelly hoped to be promoted within the ranks of Corrections Canada. He'd originally been hired as a "casual" guard in 1996, but he had dreams of getting into what is called "preventive security". This involves gathering information about smuggling, drug deals and other illegal activities amongst the inmates.
Kelly was one of EIGHT GUARDS FIRED at Kingston Pen last year, after an investigation into general corruption at the penitentiary.
Kelly's firing was recently upheld by the adjudicator for the Labour Board, after he appealled his "unfair dismissal". The Labour Board, in a 20 page decision, stated that Kelly's version of events "strained credibility"!
It seems Mr. Kelly negotiated WITH AN INMATE to secure a $180,000 mortgage so he (Mr. Kelly) could buy a home! The inmate involved was a known mob snitch and had connections to organized crime circles. He told Kelly that this was a regular method to launder money.
But the inmate was actually working as an agent for the police, who were trying to investigate corrupt prison guards.
Kelly, upon being fired, originally denied all the allegations, but now has told the Labour Board that he "wishes to come clean, and tell the real truth".
It seems he believed that accepting this $180,000 through an inmate, was a one-man sting operation that he was conducting, in the hopes of exposing six other guards, thus earning commendations and a promotion. He said he conducted "this investigation" without anyone's knowledge because he didn't trust any of the staff at Kingston Pen, including the Warden. "At the time, I thought I was doing something good." he told the Labour Board. "But I wasn't really trained adequately in preventive security."
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Who's confused?
I certainly am!
All My Love,
Menolly
flygirlaa2 01-09-2003, 03:13 AM Oh what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive.
Menally-Ill 01-09-2003, 04:34 PM Exactly, Flygirl! maybe you should sit on the Labour Board, and adjudicate the guard's "unfair dimissal" hearings!
Sure wish, I was sittin' on them!
All My Love,
Menolly
beans_mom 01-15-2003, 03:08 AM Bad guys .... no doubt in my mind who they are. I still have lots of issues since the killing of Robert Gentles at Kingston.
Preventative security? What is that and who would pay for it, the solicitor general maybe? YIKES
There needs to be an independant investigator, who is paid independantly. The correctional investigators office does some good work but they are still not "independant". They have been to Drumheller, here in Alberta, and the inmates have been locked down and have not had the opportunity to air their grieveances. What a surprise.
Although I know there are some good guards, corruption is rampant. For example, Policy 119, CSC introduced searching of guards for contraband and to date I have never seen or heard of that happening, but it is us, the inmates visitors who are suspect.
Late last year, an inmate was set on fire at Matsqui Institution. The prison was locked down and I called various MP's and media people to get some info and I was told that the warden gave a statement saying that the prison was locked down because they had tossed some cells and they had found weapons and ammunition. Why not tell the real story? According to the inmates mother, she went to the prison after her son was set on fire only to overhear a guard say, "oh well, one less to feed" and other derogatory comments.
http://www.abbotsfordtimes.com/115101/news/115101nn5.html
Thankfully my son has just been transferred to Drumheller from Matsqui and is closer to home. My concern now, when is the next murder and riot going to happen at Drum? They are still operating as a maxxium security facility since the last uprising. There were some interesting articles in the Calgary Herald in regards to the riot and all of the murders that have happened there and some of the guards have spoken out. Maybe a step in the right direction?
Gillian
flygirlaa2 01-15-2003, 03:46 AM oh my god Gillian. I can't even imagine. Amir never tells me anything that goes on in prison and when I hear these stories I am terrified and horrorified. I can't imagine a mothers pain after hearing those things. I can't imagine your pain having your son in such a place. I know it is bad for me, but it must be worse for a mother.
One more quick thought on the mortage article. Doesn't his guard know that he is putting his own family in danger by accepting something like that? That kind of money is NEVER given out with out some heavy strings attached, heck it must have had ropes attached. He was probably in much deeper and this is only what he got caught doing.
Menally-Ill 01-15-2003, 03:43 PM Gillian!!!
YOU KNOW ABOUT Tex Gentles MURDER???? OH MY GOD!!!
I knew his Mom, Carmetta, and how hard that woman had to fight for 8 years, for an inquest into her son's murder by the guards!!! My inmate David, was one of the witnesses to that atrocity!!!! I just couldn't BELIEVE what happened to Tex!!!!
For those of you who don't know the story...
Kingston Pen was in lockdown; the guys hadn't had breakfast yet by lunchtime, and were getting pretty noisy because they were hungry; Tex (Robert Gentles) TURNED UP HIS RADIO to drown out the noise of the guys; a guard tells him to turn it down, and he refused; 8 guards stormed his cell for a cell extraction; they beat the daylights out of him; one guard sat on Tex's head, with him face down in his mattress; he was maced in the face several times; he was asthmatic, and stopped breathing; the guards decide to bring him to the infirmary, trussed up like a slaughtered hog; they BANGED HIS UNCONCIOUS HEAD on every cement step, all the way to the infirmary; he died; they told the world Tex died of an asthma attack!!!!
But the guys on his range were writing cryptic letters to those of us who knew them!
Finally an inquest was called, and the jury came up with a LONG list of recommendations, about cell extractions, and how they should be handled from now on.
The irony is the first guard could simply have turned off the electricity to Tex's cell, if his aim was REALLY to turn the radio off!!!!
Gillian: Tex's death, Ty Conn's death, Billy Bell's death and "Shaggy" Marlene Moore's death...these FOUR dead inmates are the very reason I keep up this damned fight!!!
And of course, I am waiting for my David to die, from his 5-days-out-of-7 insulin regime!!!!
I'm simply blown away that you knew about Tex!!!
All My Love,
Menolly
Menally-Ill 01-15-2003, 03:48 PM Gillian;
DO YOU KNOW MICHAEL JACKSON, the human rights lawyer? He's been working FOR YEARS on such cases in B.C. And he has been advocating independant investigators FOR YEARS!!! He does some damned fine work!!!!
Gillian, FIND A SYMPATHETIC GUARD! I have one at Kingston Pen, who's name I will NEVER reveal!!! Such a guard is a godsend at times! My "guard" emails me, through a fictitious Hotmail account, about "things"...
All My Love,
Menolly
(Going to read your link, now.)
Menally-Ill 01-15-2003, 03:53 PM Gillian:
You ABSOLUTELY MUST READ MR. JACKSON'S BOOK
"Justice Behind the Walls; Human Rights in Canadian Prisons".
The entire thing is available FOR FREE at:
<http://www.justicebehindthewalls.net>
Print it off chapter by chapter, and send it to your son! I would!
I am very interested in the inmate set on fire, at Matsqui! Any links for me?
Menolly
Menally-Ill 01-15-2003, 04:06 PM For anyone interested, here is a link to
THE 74 CORONER'S INQUEST RECOMMENDATIONS REGARDING CELL EXTRACTIONS, after the inquest into Tex's murder by the guards!
<http://198.103.98.138/text/pblct/gentles/index_e.shtml>
READ THEM, then SERIOUSLY WEEP for these men!!!
Menolly
Menally-Ill 01-15-2003, 04:09 PM Gillian:
Here's a sympathetic reporter's name at CBC RADIO!!!!
MAUREEN BROSNAHAN
See her series of exposés, entitled
"Whose Guarding the Guards" at:
<http://www.cbc.ca/news/indepth/guards/>
Good luck with your son!
And do send me info on the inmate set on fire, if you can! Where is he now?
Menolly
beans_mom 01-17-2003, 03:59 PM Hi
Lee doesn't tell me everything that is for sure. It was his friend that was burnt so we discussed it somewhat over the phone. As all calls are taped we have to be real careful. Lee was on the inmate commitee at Matsqui and he is very vocal and because of his mouth he was treated quite badly at times.
I think we all feel the pain equally, but differently, as the love for a child is a different kind of love than what we feel for our partners.
Gillian
beans_mom 01-17-2003, 04:14 PM Yep I know LOL. I am familiar with the stories of all of the people you have mentioned. I always had a soft spot in my heart for Ty Conn as he sort of reminds me of my son :D
I know Tex's story extremely well, you may even know or have heard of another one of the prisoner violence project founders, Bernie Miller ??? His wife, now ex wife, is a very good friend and we have talked online and on the phone many times.
I know of Michael Jackson and have read his book a couple of times and have some of it highlighted ;)
Don't have any links about the fire but I will pm you and tell you as much as I know. Apparantly, a similar incident happened just before Christmas, don't have any details on that yet.
As my son has been transferred back to Drumheller it won't be too easy to find a sympathetic guard. My son is not big on my talking to any of them and I am not the most popular visitor there to start with hahaha. Been tossed out a couple of times.
Thanks for the link to the CBC page I will be reading with mucho interest lol.
Talk soon.
Gillian
Menally-Ill 01-18-2003, 11:36 AM GILLIAN!
I am just in tears here!
You remember TY????
Do you know, I STILL can't think of that boy, without tears filling up my eyes!!!
Truly a sweetheart, he was!!!
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Honestly, Gillian?
Tex and Ty.
Billy and Shaggy.
I DO ALL OF THIS in remembrance of them!
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TY and Shaggy? Their childhood was also MINE! There but for the grace of God, Gillian... (Funny thing for an athiest to be saying, huh?)
As for David? Another similar childhood. And now he is one of the most reviled inmates in the country. BUT, he named me Menolly, he bought me books, make me go to University, stop drinking (when I was 22), and so many other things! He said he'd lost his life, but he was damned if he'd watch mine go down the tubes also. So, he kicked my ass for years, and now I am a menopausal taxpaying, "normal" person, who worries about putting money into my R.R.S.P!
AND now, I am watching David die, in Kingston Pen!
So yeah: Tex and Ty, Billy and Shaggy, AND DAVID!
TEARS.....
Love,
Menolly
Menally-Ill 01-18-2003, 12:11 PM For Billy's APPALLING DEATH story, at Kingston Pen, from complications of AIDS, go to:
<Http://www.pasan.org/Like-a-Dog.html>
The "Like a Dog" reference, is from the Chaplain's note that "announced" that he had died during the night, unattended and alone in his cell "Like a dog, in a back kennel"!
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More tears...
M.
Menally-Ill 01-18-2003, 12:27 PM For Shaggy's story, and a photo of an art gallery monument dedicated to Marlene, go to:
<http://www.globalserve.net/~artnet/artnetarchives.htm>
It is the FIFTH art display down the page, so scroll down.
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Yet more tears...
M.
Ketek 01-29-2004, 10:30 AM I knew Rob Gentles since I was 11 years old. We grew up together in Hamilton. He grew up in a project on the West Mountain on Purnell Drive. I grew up about a mile away.
When Gentles was in grade 7, he was in a special ed class at my school.
When I did my first bit of Young Offender time, Gentles was in my unit. That was in 1985. When he was in the Y.O. unit in the downstairs level of the HWDC (Hamilton Wentworth Detention Centre) for Y.O.'s, he sodomized a much smaller inmate. He was charged and convicted.
Gentles then went to Maplehurst Y.O. Unit to serve out a sentence. There he was a pariah. His reputation was as a homosexual predator, and a few attempts were made on him. One guy was about to use some shop implements to assualt Gentles, and Gentles came running into a washroom where the guy was sitting inside a stall doing his business, and pre-empted the attack by kicking him in the head with steel-toed boots.
Gentles later committed adult crimes, got adult time, and was sent down below. Since he was a hound, his life would've ended much sooner had they sent him to the Haven or the Bay. So off to KP he went, and the guards did their dirty, dirty thing.
Ordinarily guys who get snuffed out by guards, that causes quite a stir amongst the inmate pop. Not with Gentles, though, in case anyone didn't notice. Gentles apparently wasn't too popular with Gen Pop. Suddenly, the inmates didn't seem to care less, and actually some seemed to think the guards did a good thing (at least a few guys in the Bay seemed to think so).
Good thing his Mom was out there batting for him all those years. He would definitely have been a forgotten case.
And those are the straight goods, in case anyone doesn't already know them.
Ketek
Gillian!!!
YOU KNOW ABOUT Tex Gentles MURDER???? OH MY GOD!!!
I knew his Mom, Carmetta, and how hard that woman had to fight for 8 years, for an inquest into her son's murder by the guards!!! My inmate David, was one of the witnesses to that atrocity!!!! I just couldn't BELIEVE what happened to Tex!!!!
For those of you who don't know the story...
Kingston Pen was in lockdown; the guys hadn't had breakfast yet by lunchtime, and were getting pretty noisy because they were hungry; Tex (Robert Gentles) TURNED UP HIS RADIO to drown out the noise of the guys; a guard tells him to turn it down, and he refused; 8 guards stormed his cell for a cell extraction; they beat the daylights out of him; one guard sat on Tex's head, with him face down in his mattress; he was maced in the face several times; he was asthmatic, and stopped breathing; the guards decide to bring him to the infirmary, trussed up like a slaughtered hog; they BANGED HIS UNCONCIOUS HEAD on every cement step, all the way to the infirmary; he died; they told the world Tex died of an asthma attack!!!!
But the guys on his range were writing cryptic letters to those of us who knew them!
Finally an inquest was called, and the jury came up with a LONG list of recommendations, about cell extractions, and how they should be handled from now on.
The irony is the first guard could simply have turned off the electricity to Tex's cell, if his aim was REALLY to turn the radio off!!!!
Gillian: Tex's death, Ty Conn's death, Billy Bell's death and "Shaggy" Marlene Moore's death...these FOUR dead inmates are the very reason I keep up this damned fight!!!
And of course, I am waiting for my David to die, from his 5-days-out-of-7 insulin regime!!!!
I'm simply blown away that you knew about Tex!!!
All My Love,
Menolly
Does anyone know of a link for either Kingston Pen or a main link for Canadian prisons all together. I am trying to do an inmate search for Kingston. Thanks for any info. you have ! :)
stevesboo23 01-29-2004, 04:47 PM canadain federal systems do not have inmate searches. My man is in KP and I know alot of other guys in other ontario federal penns. You can private message me if you would like and I can try to help you find out..
tunaloo 07-17-2007, 12:10 AM Brian Kelly hoped to be promoted within the ranks of Corrections Canada. He'd originally been hired as a "casual" guard in 1996, but he had dreams of getting into what is called "preventive security". This involves gathering information about smuggling, drug deals and other illegal activities amongst the inmates.
Kelly was one of EIGHT GUARDS FIRED at Kingston Pen last year, after an investigation into general corruption at the penitentiary.
Kelly's firing was recently upheld by the adjudicator for the Labour Board, after he appealled his "unfair dismissal". The Labour Board, in a 20 page decision, stated that Kelly's version of events "strained credibility"!
It seems Mr. Kelly negotiated WITH AN INMATE to secure a $180,000 mortgage so he (Mr. Kelly) could buy a home! The inmate involved was a known mob snitch and had connections to organized crime circles. He told Kelly that this was a regular method to launder money.
But the inmate was actually working as an agent for the police, who were trying to investigate corrupt prison guards.
Kelly, upon being fired, originally denied all the allegations, but now has told the Labour Board that he "wishes to come clean, and tell the real truth".
It seems he believed that accepting this $180,000 through an inmate, was a one-man sting operation that he was conducting, in the hopes of exposing six other guards, thus earning commendations and a promotion. He said he conducted "this investigation" without anyone's knowledge because he didn't trust any of the staff at Kingston Pen, including the Warden. "At the time, I thought I was doing something good." he told the Labour Board. "But I wasn't really trained adequately in preventive security."
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Who's confused?
I certainly am!
All My Love,
Menolly
As u should be confused....... Ppl who do not know ppl personally have no reason to judge or anything unless they know the full story... i know brian kelly personally.... hes a very close family member and i can assure you he is a wonderful person.
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