does anybody know what they do with the guys that are executed? can the family pick up the body and burry them where they want? and what if nobody is there to pick it up? Or when they burry it on the prison cemetry, can you go and visit the grave?

I've also heard rumors that they make money out of organs of prisoners that died in prison. ANybody ever heard that?

i believe those whose bodies are not claimed by family or friends go into unmarked graves. i know of quite a few inmates who have burial a/c's on the go so that their families can give them a proper burial. i've also heard that in TX there is an anti death penalty funeral director who tries to help out if contacted.

I forget the location but there is a cemetary for prisoners who die and are not claimed. They are put into graves with a number above them. This goes for death row & normal inmates alike.

I have not heard anything about organ sales or donations.

David

a lot of prisoners try to get money for their burring together, because they do not want to be in prison longer than life. i was at the cementary in huntsville one day and it did hurt to see all those white crosses with only a number ...

yours

sabine

I saw the cemetary at Parchman, Mississippi and it's on an isolated spot on the prison grounds. It was pitiful. Graves with just numbers above them with no concept of the men who lie beneath.

Here is a web site that talks about the cemetery at Huntsville.

http://photovoyage.auroraquanta.com/pv/deathrow?sess_id=620507775414192&img=1483



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thanks Joy!! I think that's it's really inhuman to even make sure that a prisoner that past away stays a prisoner and forgotten forever. They sure did their time, so give them back their name!

I guess it wasn't enough to make the families have to come to the hell their family lived in and had to watch them die. The families will have to relive everything over and over each time they want to come to the cemetery to visit. The cemetery where my parents are buried is a peaceful one. When I get the chance, I go and sit by their graves and talk to them, tell them of my life, yell at them for leaving me so soon :( ....but I couldn't imagine ever having to go this "type" of cemetery to visit someone I love.

to me, it sounds like they just refuse to see prisoners as humans, even after they passed away. I hope I'll never have to go to a cemetary like that! Seen a docu on Discovery in which these prisoners were saying that they had to burry their friends in carton coffins? And about how every friend that died made them realize a little more that they were going to die inside the prison walls too, to only become another number on another identical cross...

Maybe putting JUST numbers on the grave markers, makes them feel as if they didn't really take another human being's life.

having looked into this a bit due to my friend situations....the part that bothers me is that after they kill the person (by injection or electricity- its all the same) they remove the witnesses and get a coroner to pronounce them dead they then strip the inmate and hose them off. then they call the funeral home to come get them. in some states they will only approve a few chapels or one chapel and if you want a different one then you have your choice pick up the body from thier approved chapel. it gets spendy.
i was always taught (i am part native american) that there is a moment after death when the soul remains and can still hear you. all i want is to be able to sit with my friend in that moment. i want so badly that after this terrible moment with media (whom he despises) and people who hate him and judge him watching to hold his hand as it grows cold and tell him he is loved, at least by me.
this may all sound morbid, but i think about it so much. these rules, inhumanities are cruel to more than just the inmate.
lupine

Richard talks about the prison graveyard Peckerwood Hill in Oklahoma. Since he has nearly died several times while incarcerated he has thought about this alot.

He has family that would and will take care of his burial arrangements (if he should pass befoe he is released) somewhere in the family plot but he has removed all the next of kin information from his personal records. He thinks they will have a big party (funeral) and he doesn't want it.

Hey, while we're on this topic, I read somewhere that after an execution, an autopsy is performed. Why? Don't they already know what the person died from? DUH! Anything to use up the taxpayers' money. My guess is that the autopsy is for research purposes, to learn how the particular execution method actually works, so that method can be further developed.

They also do research and gatherr data on the Brain. They have discovered that serial killers have a part of their brain that is more enlarged than other people.

Torrey, if that is the case, then why don't they do brain scans on everyone. Anyone who has that large piece, they can chop out or shrink with drugs/laser BEFORE they become a serial killer. Then the whole world will be a safer place.

Mike, I suppose you're joking !!! At least I hope !!! What you're speaking of, is called lobotomy !!!! It's been experimented in the first half of the 20th century in some countries ( as for the American actress Frances Farmer), in the concentration camps during WW II or in the former Soviet Union under Staline !!!! So far, this "surgery" hasn't shown any evidence of being successful, but only turned people into "zombies" or "living dead" !!!!! Human beings are not laboratory animals, whether they are prisoners or not !!!! The world must go round with all kinds of different people !!!

Oh. I didn't know. :confused:

In that case you're most than forgiven !!! :)

Maybe that's what happened to me, when I was a baby.

http://www.tombstonetravel.com/texpris.html

I agree it is sad they did there time and for pete sakes give them there names back

I buried several inmates during my stay at the "rock" Union Correctional Inst. The guards would take some of the bigger cons out on a big truck to a spot behind the prison.We would dig the grave and bury the inmate.They had a small marker with their number on it and the date.The caskets were made there.They were thin plywood covered in grey cloth.We did this under the gun.This is what happens to the inmates who nobody claims.

They don't harvest the organs. The deferral period required by the FDA for a oerson who was incarcerated is 12 months. Being that they were executed, they will never complete the deferral period,

All of the execution methods used today render organs unusable for transplantation, though there have been cases where inmates have agreed in advance to donate their corneas, which apparently are not affected.

The wife of an executed Texas man once told me that the funeral home the prison system uses in Huntsville is "horrible" and that families will go to any length to insure that their loved ones are attended to elsewhere. This is especially true in cases where someone wants a Jewish, Muslim, or Native American observance, as "the system" will not accomodate anything other than the most basic Christian amenities.

And yes, those with no one to claim them are buried under their numbers. This seems to be true in most states, including Minnesota, which has no death penalty. In recent years a private group here has begun efforts to properly mark the graves, not only of prisoners, but of state hospital inmates. There are as many as 12,000 of the latter and the resting places of most bear no names.

Ive just sat and read this thread, I am an organ donor and I do know a bit about most transplants.

you cannot use donor organs unless it has been receiving oxygenated blood, so I wouldn't think some one who has been executed could donate their organs unless it is for medical research.
( this is in my will, if my organs cannot be used to transplant than use my organs and the rest for research )
corneas are not organs and do not need "blood" as far as i know.

lethal injection Poisson's the whole body

electrocution cooks the body

so both of these methods seem very unlikely for the use of transplantation


We all have different feeling on what happens after the death of a physical body, I believe that when we pass we are no longer constricted by time or space, and we carry on our journeys, but able to see our loved ones here on earth and communicate with them.

death comes to us all, some will have horrendous deaths, some peaceful deaths, but I am sure every belief system every religion believes in a world of one form or another after this incarnation.

Earth to earth, ashes to ashes ......... our psychical bodies are used to enrich the soil, our spiritual energy is then free of restraints.

Energy doesn't just stop, energy always transfers

I have said all of this because, i see that a few people are a bit upset and others just don't think before they post. so I thought I'd take the time to say how I feel, and that is, it doesn't matter that these people are in numbered graves, it doesn't matter who buries them, they are now at peace, the spirit world is love and light, so they are free, in every way.




and I hope someone reads it because it took me ages to type ( I broke my left wrist when i crashed my motorbike :o and am very slow at typing with a plaster caste on my wrist )

does anybody know what they do with the guys that are executed? can the family pick up the body and burry them where they want? and what if nobody is there to pick it up? Or when they burry it on the prison cemetry, can you go and visit the grave?

I've also heard rumors that they make money out of organs of prisoners that died in prison. ANybody ever heard that?
I HAVE HEARD RUMORS THAT THEIR ORGANS CAN BE USED...THATS SO SICK TO ME!! I DONT KNOW HOW TRUE IT IS THOUGH.

NOW... WHEN THERES AN EXECUTION, THE INMATES' LOVED ONES CAN CLAIM THE BODY AND DO THEIR OWN FUNERAL, CREMATION OR WHATEVER. IF THE BODY IS NOT CLAIMED, THE STATE TAKES CARE OF IT. AS FAR AS I KNOW THERE IS NO CEMETERY FOR THE LOVED ONES TO VISIT IF THE STATE KEEPS THE BODY.

I am currently reading a book called Within these Walls , its about a death house chaplin, so here are some facts


If a body is not claimed then it is buried in the prison cemetary.

Numbers instead of names are used because, the most notorious prisoners are likely to have thier grave wrecked ( lets say Gacey, had his name on a head stone, how long would that grave be left alone,)

friends and family may vist the graves, but prior apointment is needed ( because it is on prison grounds )

prisoners who dig the grave normally attend the funeral.

the book is really worth reading,

Within these Walls, by Rev.Carroll Pickett with Carlton stowers

I will try and get that book Whitchypoo, thanks for the information.
I think it is sad how it has to be handled. But, do we really expect them to treat inmates better in death then they do in life?
What bothers me is the cost of transporting a body is so expensive it would be prohibitive for most families. If your loved one died in say CA. and you live in Va that would cost a fortune. So what do you do? Bury them in a state where you could never visit, or just let the state/gov. handle it?
I understand about the notorious prisoners, but it is still awful to have a number marking your grave for eternity.

My personal belief has long been that once one is done using one's body, it really doesn't much matter what happens to it--mine will be cremated and the ashes scattered.

To others, however, it DOES matter, and I do feel for those who have no choice in how their "mortal remains" will be attended to.

Witchy, you do have a good point about notorious prisoners' graves being the target of vandalism or other activity. One need look no further than www.findagrave.com to see several examples. The vast majority of the millions of famous and non-famous people one can locate on this site have a space on their particular page where one can leave a memorial note or virtual flowers. Those of well-known prisoners, particularly those who have been executed, have generally had this feature disabled due to abuse by hate-mongers.

Very, very sad. Frankly, I doubt there are many people in this world who are completely forgotten....someone remembers, somewhere.