My man haes been in Soledadd CTGF since last october and he asked to get into fire camp long time ago wnen he was in Tracey. So now we need to know what steops to take to get him into a fire camp and one that is closer to home. I live in Chico Ca. Its about an 1hr And 1/2 north from sacramento . And if anyone knows where Redding is its 1hr south from there. So if anyone knows anyrhing or theres something i need to do please reply. Also what is everybodty doing now about there packages?
O.K. that is all for now

You can't really do anything to get him into a fire camp. He can request, and usually they will review his file for eligibility. You could submit a hardship request that he be transferred closer to home, but unless you are a blind, quadrapeligic they hardly ever even read them.

Bottom line, CDC puts them where there is room, and they stay there until their file crosses someone elses desk, who actually reads the file, and does something. Sorry it isn't better news, I am going thru the same thing myself, and I have done all I can, which really isn't much.

Another point - if you push too hard, and irritate the counselors, they can get awful and send him somewhere awful - and even farther away. I've seen it happen a few times.

Good luck

I agree that all he can do is request it, after that it's pretty much up to them. Maybe have him ask his counselor how things are moving along every now and then. My man got lucky and got transferred pretty quickly into fire training but even training takes a while as well.

I think that he first must be in either Susanville or Jamestown to even go through the training for Fire Camp. There are some other requirements like his points and no violence or escapes. I also tried the harship transfer thing and they are really difficult. I tried for months until I made sure that my husband grandmother who had Altzhiemers (sp) made a few jestures at the CO's while she was visiting. ~smile~ We did get some results after that. While she was "showing out" I did have a letter from her doctor verifying her condition! :eek: :D

Theres nothing you can do it all depends on his points and what they feel like doing! Sorry!

Mistify

Fire Camp is only a trap to get 115's and have time added to your love one. If the Sgt or Lt does not like you, you and your love one are in big trouble I would advise to stay were he is it is not greener on the other side it just looks like it would be but it is only a trap they make you work your A** off. And always reminded you that your are ONLY prisoner there you have no good job hey guys that was great what you do get is you are only cheap layer that is what camp is all about. I guess I am a very unhappy wife of a man that in the last 6 months has gotten 3 115’s for bullsh** I wish they would just send him back to Jamestown and let him do his last 11 months there.

what's a 115???

a 115 is when you get in trouble or you get written up.

Oh, great. My honey was just told he's going to fire camp and we were both so freakin' excited.... So should he have stuck with his vocation? Oh, please. Someone please post something good about fire crew!!!!!

Oh, great. My honey was just told he's going to fire camp and we were both so freakin' excited.... So should he have stuck with his vocation? Oh, please. Someone please post something good about fire crew!!!!!If your boyfriend/husband is going to a fire camp, he is the least risk to the community that an inmate can possibly be. They are carefully screened and have to meet strict criteria to be there. The restrictions at camps are minimal. He will be at the least level of security that you can get for an inmate sentenced to prison.

If someone gets written up at a camp, then they are screwing up...bad. Sorry to disagree with you Tomi Castillo, but staff usually go out of their way to not write 115s on inmates. You have to follow certain steps to write an inmate up. Especially at a camp or Level I facility. First, we have to give the inmate a verbal counseling for his behavior (it's typically is serveral verbal warnings) and document the verbal warning on his bed card. Then he recieves what we call a 128A Counseling Chrono. This is a last warning to the inmate that a 115 will be written if he does not comply with the rules and regulations. Then the 115 is written if the inmate does not comply. If the 115 is not a serious offense, then it is classified as an Administrative 115 and will not have any time taken away, or result in any points added to his classification score. The penalty is usually a loss of privileges. Then finally a Serious 115 will be written and this is the bad one. Good time credits can be taken, along with a loss of privileges, and plus the 8 points added to the classification score. So, as you can tell, an inmate at a fire camp has to "work" at getting a serious 115, or he commits a serious offense that can not be classified as Administrative. In a nutshell, I would venture to say that Mr. Castillo (?) is the one screwing up.

"I wish they would just send him back to Jamestown and let him do his last 11 months there."

More than likely, that is going to be the end result if he keeps getting written up. And it will be longer than 11 months when he loses is A1A status. He will have to get another job in the prison to get his day for day good time credits.

Gate keeper I do not know what camp you visit but the ones my husband has been at have not being that fun. the 115 he got was NOT a serious one and he was NEVER given a veb. warning nor a 128A counseling chrono he was just given a 115. and believe me I have check with the Lt about these 115's he has gotten and even he told me yes they are not serious. so sorry to say gate keeper he is not the one screwing up they are scewing with HIM. I am not saying that camp is a bad place but it is an easy place to get yourself in trouble. I am just saying what has being our expertise with camp. just like these last 115 he got or thought he was going to get. He was put in the hole for 21 days and send to Chino for two weeks he never got a 115 and when he want to committee he was NOT found guily of anything so you tell me who is scewing who? maybe it is this is happing to us because we do not know how this game is played. I have never heard of a 128A counseling chrono or that they will give you veb. warning(s) the camp's he has being at have always be VERY happy to give you a 115 they go out of there way to give you one. like I said I do not know what camp you visit but the ones we have being at have not being to nice to us. so answering you question about my husband being the one who is scewing up well I do not think so.

They are not required to give Verbal Warnings nor 128A's depending on what the charge is.

Title 15, Section 3312 clarifies this. If the violation is not minor in nature or is against the law it shall be reported on a CDC 115. Or something to that effect.

ok so maybe my husband needs to read his Title 15 to get a better understanding of all this. from my understanding his 115's have been minor if not he would have been gone back to Jamestowns a long time ago. it's always easier to say the inmate is always at fault.

Girl do not worry so much that has been my experience with camp it does not mean this will happen to you also. you cannot beat it camp is a GREAT place to do your time. you do have to work you butt off but you know when you are in camp you can hug(s) and kisses so many times as you want sit close to each other, hold hands, walk around and if you have kids in some of the camps they have play grounds for the kids to play also. I guess I came out really wrong by letting my feels do the writing. All is well with my husband now he is back in camp doing his program. I also want to Thank the gate keeper and Sgt for helping me understand the rules in camp a lot better now. stay on your toes and out of the spot light and you will be all good. Enjoy your time in camp that is the close we can get to freedom until he comes home. have a good time lot of LOL :thumbsup:





Oh, great. My honey was just told he's going to fire camp and we were both so freakin' excited.... So should he have stuck with his vocation? Oh, please. Someone please post something good about fire crew!!!!!

Our understanding is that the inmate must transfer either to Susanville or Jamestown in order to get out to a fire camp. Susanville supplies inmates to the northern California fire camps and Jamestown supplies inmates to the southern California fire camps. There are some stipulations to get to fire camp and I am sorry that I don't know them. My son will be able to transfer to Susanville next February, after his annual review. From there, he will apply for fire camp and we hope he can get into a camp by April or May. He understands that you must be a level one in order to go to fire camp. He has had to wait three years to get to level one. We are excited and have heard good things about fire camp. A friend of mine's husband was the captain at one of the fire camps in No. CA for several years and treated them well.

Yeah!!! He was transferred to Susanville last Tuesday!!! I just got my first letter from him 2 days ago. Guess he won't have much time for writing now, will he? Or visits. I still haven't got MCI to lift the phone block and my 106 is pending approval...So if his original release date was November 29, what are we lookin' at now? I need to see him!!!!Thanks for your support, guys. Love you all...

I know my son never got a warning at fire camp when he was there he just got rolled up and sent back behind the wall, He got 30 days added but the C/O's did not want to do it as my son was a very hard worker and they never had any problems with him they told me they really hated to see him go! The reason was they were out and staging at another camp and another inmate and my son got into a verbal but not psyical and they rolled them both up because they could not take the chance of them getting into it if they were out on a fire.. Understandable! My Son was bummed as he only had 2 weeks till he was paroled and it was on his B-day but he also understood the reason and accepted as a gentleman and finished up his time!! I know at his camp all the c/os and seargents and Captains were very pleasent!! I wish he was there this time!!

If my boyfriend can't pass the PFT will he get sent back to HDSP? That is what a friend of mine told me would happen.

Does anyone know if an inmate has a better chance at getting into a firecamp if the inmate was in one before, did well there and still has no violent offenses only drugs convictions? We're hoping for firecamp! Doesn't the time get lowered to 35%, too?

Mrs. Jimmy,
from my understanding if they were in fire camp before and it has been last than a year he does not have to go to training he would be put on the fire camp list asap. and no he does not get 35% I think it is only 50% but this has to be your first time in prison.

Hello All,
I am new to the chat, and just reciently my fiancee has been transferred to Wasco. He he has been sentenced to 4yrs and 4mos for a non-violent drug offense. This is his first offense and he has no prior record. He has not yet met with his couselor but he has expressed interest in Fire Camp. My question is, if he is accepted into Fire Camp, does his sentence get reduced???? As of now,he has to serve 50% of the 4yrs 4mos,will it be reduced to 35%??? Please if anybody has any prior knowledge on this matter let me know. Thank you.

yes it does 35%

Fire Camp is only a trap to get 115's and have time added to your love one. If the Sgt or Lt does not like you, you and your love one are in big trouble I would advise to stay were he is it is not greener on the other side it just looks like it would be but it is only a trap they make you work your A** off. And always reminded you that your are ONLY prisoner there you have no good job hey guys that was great what you do get is you are only cheap layer that is what camp is all about. I guess I am a very unhappy wife of a man that in the last 6 months has gotten 3 115’s for bullsh** I wish they would just send him back to Jamestown and let him do his last 11 months there.
No no no!!!! Fire camp is not a way to get 115's. It is a priviliage. I suggest that
when your man goes to re-certification he asks then to get on fire camp. I was
on fire camp at CMC for 2 years. It was great! If you don't have a attitude problem and you aren't making problems for the Capts, ya ain't got nothin' to worry about. It is back breaking hard work, but for those of us that have gotten
the chance to be on a fire camp, it is well worth the wait. And they pay 1.00
dollar an hour, vs 12 cents for a job inside the prisons. Look at it this way, my
wife kinda hated it when I was gone on a fire for 2 weeks, but she sure did
love the money I sent home from my books.When they dispatch for a crew
to go out, we are paid as soon as we get the word, in other words as soon
as the clock starts we are makin some bucks. Around the clock. The training
is great too, as you are learning new skills. Although CDF will not hire you when you get released because you were a inmate on a prison fire camp, US
Foresty will. Man, I will tell ya, when fire season opened in SLO county we were all anxious to get the call. And the food, It was awesome. Nothin like
what they give ya in prison. We had steak, shrimp..all kinds of damn good
food. I will give ya all the info I can on fire camps, but fire camps are not to
get additional 115's.

Fire camp is not a set up. The food is 100% better than a mainline yard. Yes they do work your tail off. You fight forest fires. If you get half time you will only do 35% once you get to camp. People who are lazy or trouble makers will have a hard time in camp because the camps are so small and you are scrutinized. If you are trying to go to camp your counselor is the only one who can get you there. From reception or your annual if you have no write ups and are in decent physical shape or have a skill like cook or clerk, camp is the only way to go.

For Anyone Who Is Intrested To Know About Fenner Canyon Fire Camp In Valyermo Ca. I Just Retured From A Visit, I Must Tell You That It Was Awesome! The Officers Are Great. You Drive Up, Park Your Car And Walk Only A Few Steps Over To The Visiting. You Can Take Your Own Food, Games, And Even Bbq. If U Have A Baby Or Kids, You Can Bring Games, Or A Walker/stroller. As Soon As You Sign In, They Call Him Over The Intercom If He's Ready...he Comes Out Within Minutes. What I Really Like About It Is That You Can Wear Jeans. As Long As You Look Modest Your Cool With Whatever U Wear. Another Cool Thing About That Place Is That...the Officers Don't Watch You Like A Hawk. As Long As You Don't Overdue The Affection, It's All Good. Just Some Info For Who'sever Intrested.

WE CAN HUG AND KISS AND HOLD HANDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YEAH, MY BABY IS AT SUGAR PINE CAMP AND I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE HIM FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME IN PERSON!! THEY HAVE IT REALLY GOOD!!! THEY DO WORK HARD BUT HAVE ALOT OF OTHER THINGS TO DO TOO!!!!

Girl do not worry so much that has been my experience with camp it does not mean this will happen to you also. you cannot beat it camp is a GREAT place to do your time. you do have to work you butt off but you know when you are in camp you can hug(s) and kisses so many times as you want sit close to each other, hold hands, walk around and if you have kids in some of the camps they have play grounds for the kids to play also. I guess I came out really wrong by letting my feels do the writing. All is well with my husband now he is back in camp doing his program. I also want to Thank the gate keeper and Sgt for helping me understand the rules in camp a lot better now. stay on your toes and out of the spot light and you will be all good. Enjoy your time in camp that is the close we can get to freedom until he comes home. have a good time lot of LOL :thumbsup:

hello, anyone...i'm the mother of an inmate, and he just got into fire camp...i know nothing of the program. can someone please help w/info. i'm clueless...thank u

What is the name of the fire camp your son is at?

Does anyone know what the eligability for fire camp entails??

It would be ever so helpful, my fiance has got his hopes up, the judge says all he can do is "recommend" the fire camp, but it is completely up to CDC. Just wondering what the actual possibility is.

-Thanks a bunch

To be eligible for camp he must have 27 points or less, more than 18 months but less than 5 years to release, no arson, sex, escape, or violence convictions. He must be in good health and pass the physical fitness and firefighting training classes. At times, depending on the shortage of camp inmates, they will take inmates with as little as a year to their release.

does the recent fires in s. ca had any effect on the fire camp program? are the application and training gotten any faster ,or it the same?

From what I have heard they are trying to get more guys in the training programs so that in case something like this happens again...they have back up support for the guys in camp