maybe someone can help me? If you travel from another state to visit, how many visits are you gauranteed, without getting terminated for overcrowding? For example, if I visit on Sat. can I get terminated on Sun. (the next day) if it's overcrowded?

maybe someone can help me? If you travel from another state to visit, how many visits are you gauranteed, without getting terminated for overcrowding? For example, if I visit on Sat. can I get terminated on Sun. (the next day) if it's overcrowded?
Let's give an example here, let's say you go to San Luis Obispo, California
Men's Colony, they have a number system. You are first in line and so therefore you are #1. As the morning processes more and more people fill into
the visiting room. CMC room capacity I think is 350. So if there are 351 people
in the visiting room, you would be the first to be terminated. They don't give
2 chits about how far you have come to visit. That's just the way it goes.
Suzi

Actually, state law (Title 15) says they can't terminate your visits if you've traveled more than 250 miles and it's been more than 30 days since your last visit.

That said, I just argued with a CO who tried to tell me it was 6 months, not 30 days, but I held my ground -- and he gave in, cause he knew I wasn't giving up!

Here's the link for Title 15:

http://www.cdc.state.ca.us/Regulati.../Title%2015.pdf

The section you want is 3176, scroll down to (9) a.

I can not get that link to work :( Barb

Neither can I. Maybe they removed it so we can't find out the true rules. :p


I can not get that link to work :( Barb

California Code of Regulations: Title 15

Section 3176

(9) The maximum capacity of the visiting area has been reached and to allow others to visit it is necessary to terminate the visits of those persons who have been visiting for the longest period of time. Exceptions shall include, but are not limited to the following: (A) Excessive Distance: The visitor has traveled a distance of 250 miles or more, and has not visited within the last 30 days. This exception applies to two consecutive days of visiting.

If the link to the CDC website doesn't work, try this one:
http://www.vip-cali.com/CDCINFO/VisitingSection.htm
It's ONLY the visiting section of Title 15.
Hope this helps:-)

Ooops... boy, I turn my back for a minute...

Thanks, Sgt. for quoting the section!!

The link is to a pdf file, you need Acrobat reader. It still works for me... hmmm

But Heidi's page is easier to read anyway.. :)

So, it applies to 2 consecutive days of visiting, if you have traveled more than 250 miles and if you have not visited in the last 30 days?

So if I travel 400 miles and visit on Saturday, when I come back to visit on Sunday of that same weekend, they cannot terminate my visit early on Sunday if I haven't visited in 30 days?

Yep! That's the law. There is only one way you could get terminated, and that's if EVERYBODY left in the visiting room has the same, or some other exemption, from getting terminated. If everybody left has an exemption, then they will terminate according to the "first in-first out" rule.

I've never seen that happen though!:-)

Heidi







So, it applies to 2 consecutive days of visiting, if you have traveled more than 250 miles and if you have not visited in the last 30 days?

So if I travel 400 miles and visit on Saturday, when I come back to visit on Sunday of that same weekend, they cannot terminate my visit early on Sunday if I haven't visited in 30 days?

Yes, it's true. But as I said, I did have to argue (politely) with a CO who insisted it was six months, not 30 days.

Fearing retaliation, my friend did not want me to fight it... but on the way out, I couldn't help myself. I felt bad not respecting my friend's wishes, but I just can't take that $#@!

I politely explained to another CO that it wasn't fair. I had driven seven hours. Suddenly the CO who terminated us called us back and said "It's your lucky day, there's an extra space that just got freed up!"

MMM-HMMMM... he never did admit I was right, but I took it as a victory anyhow. My friend was kind of amazed.. :)

Of course, they won't let you bring a copy of Title 15 in there with you, so at the heat of the moment, it's your word against the COs. Next time, I'll write it the section of the code on my hand!! :D

I've been visiting the same prison for several years. I've traveled MANY times more than 250 mi's -with visits more than 30 days apart. I've been terminated several times for capacity on the Sunday after visiting the day before. I've argued it. I won some and lost some. It seems though that CO's veiw on that part of T.15 differ from one another. Anyways, I agree that it's 30days/ more than 250 mi.

It might just be a matter of not knowing. To be honest I had to look it up after I read this thread. All you can do is let them know what the rule is and if they are hardheaded about it ask to talk to their Sergeant.

In Ill you get extended visits if you live over 300 miles away. You have to request it in writing, and also, call about 2 to 3 weeks in advance. They let you know that it could happen you don't get the full time because of a crowded visiting room. I try to visit during the week, and travel on the weekend. I think I have had a total of 9 extended visits and never had one terminated early.

I agree with you, it may just be a matter of not knowing. I have talked to the Sgt. and The Sgt. agreed with me.

That's good to know, I will ask for the Sgt. next time! :)

A question regarding the visitors request form. I was filling out the form and came across the "prostetics or implants" information. Well my situation is somewhat different. I had a stomach surgery almost 18 years ago and have steel staples in my stomach. I have no doctor at the moment and I am in a different state from when I had the surgery. I have never set off any airport detectors (but haven't flown since 9/11 either). Do I need something to send in witht he request form?

TIA Andi03

I don't know whether you have to send confirmation in with the form or not, but it would be logical that you would have to provide it at some point. Why don't you call the visitor approval office to find out for sure before you mail it in and wait 6 or more weeks to have them tell you they need documentation and then you wait another 6 weeks, you know?
If you do need it, you can go get a simple x-ray and then have the doc confirm in writing that you have metal staples in your belly that he visualized on x-ray.
Your other option might be to have the last doc you saw in whatever state write a note to that effect if they will do it. I'd just go get the x-ray and the mommy note if it were me.

SGT & Heidi thanks for that info. I think we all have been in the visiting room when it gets crowded and we become fearful of being terminated. It is good to know what title 15 -- section 3176 (9). I will have to memorize this just in case I need to use this as leverage.