I saw a 10 year old boy being pepper sprayed today. Actually, I heard him first, then I went to see what happened. Whats going on in our world where we have to use stuff like this to control young children? This kid was about the same size as my 8 year old daughter!!! It made me sad to see that. Even worse, the probation counselors were high fiving each other afterwards. I asked them why was he sprayed and they said he attacked staff. I can still hear the screaming...

Our juvenile system is seriously screwed up and I fear its going to get worse! A probation counselor told me today that because of the budget cuts, many are out of work or having to take other jobs within probation (other than what they applied for). She says that some Probation Officers are violating these kids just so their friends could have a job. How pathetic is that? Sometimes I just want to throw my hands up, but If everyone did that, what will happen to our children?


Yasmeen

:angry: Thats an outrage, that has me feeling really heated now. I mean, as parents we protect our kids, 10 years old!!!! And the sad thing is, that he is going to remember, not trust the law, and end up bitter. Im so ANGRY now, this is disgusting. :mad:

Yea, I dont know whats happening to our society.

Unfortunately many in our society of have lost touch with any sense of right and wrong. It's much simplier to pepper spray a 10 yr old child than to take the time to subdue him in another manner. It's all about taking the easy way.... the fastest route... the one that requires the least resistance. After all.... we have microwaves, fast food joints... everything and anything we want can be had within a minute... no waiting. People are exherting less and less effort for any task... it's all about ME! ME, ME, ME... to hell with everyone else. Sad but true.

When I hear things like this it breaks my heart as well as makes me angry. The sad part is we have 10 yr olds in our juvenille system. What really get me upset is if a parent where to use pepper spray on their child, it would be called abuse - what's the difference here? What the two adult probation counselors could not subdue a 10 yr old? It sickens me to know that these counselors were given each other high fives - how twisted are they?

I hear things like this and it continues to motivate me in my criminal justice studies. I want more than anything to work with juvenilles and try to help keep them out of our adult systems. Spraying a child with pepper spray sure isn't going to make this child respond to authority or staff very well, let alone trust them, why would he? There has to be better ways to help juveniles in the system other than being abusive.

yeah it does really break hearts, I mean come on how low does it go.

What really sucks is that pepper spray is considered to be a humane alternative . . . . .

And, maybe it is, compared, say, to a beating.

On the other hand, a 10-year-old in juvie? That's crazy, but, as you've all noted, this country's gone crazy.

abner

:angry: What has this world come to when a grown man has to use pepper spray to subdue a child:nono: . Was this action reported to Social Services??? or to any other reporting agency. Things like this actually need to be noticed and have all the local news agency's at their front door step. This is an outrage:angry:


Peter

That has just gotta be unethical... illegal!! :mad: There has gotta be a rule against that kind of punishment or something!!:angry: Instead of them sitting and reasoning with the child, they pepperspray him!!??!!:angry: I am as angry as hell reading that. I have a 10 year old son, who at times gets verytempermental but with talks, i am able to reason with him. That above is totally unacceptable.:angry:

Yea I know. Policy is that they put the Probation Counselor on paid Adminstrative leave while they investigate. they try to find out whether it was just...to use the pepperspray.... or could it have been handled differently...and...they move the counselor to another unit. I believe it is reported to social services. They hold inservices and ask what would you have done if faced with the same situation since we're not allowed to touch the children in ANY way. I told them, "I dont know. I guess I'd subdue him anyway...physically"...I guess that wasnt the right answer. But I'd prefer that to the pepperspray.