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Devanesgirl
12-26-2010, 07:16 PM
So does anyone know if felons can get passports? I mean I don't see why they couldn't but I just want to make sure. I am planning a cruise for my hubby and me for our honeymoon when he gets home. I wanted to make sure that he is allowed to get a passport though. He won't be on parole, it's a state jail felony and he has nothing aggravated in his record at all. Anyways if anyone knows any information that would be greatly appreciated!!!

Renee
12-26-2010, 07:28 PM
Good question! Unfortunately, I don't know the answer. :o Hopefully someone will come along who does, but in the meantime, you can always ask at your local post office. They should know for sure! Good luck and enjoy your cruise!

Devanesgirl
12-26-2010, 10:15 PM
So I did a little googling and it seems that the only time a person cannot get a passport is if they have a warrant out, if their parole does not allow them to leave the US, anyone that has been convicted of a threat against the US gov't, drug trafficking charges, controlled substance charges, and I think that's about it. So yay! I can plan our cruise!!!

lovingwifewaiti
12-26-2010, 10:25 PM
I just talked to our lawyer about this subject. He says they can get one but some places won't let them in. He gave me the example that they cannot go to Canada but can go to France. Don't know about you-I would rather go to France with my loved one!!

Devanesgirl
12-26-2010, 11:44 PM
I just talked to our lawyer about this subject. He says they can get one but some places won't let them in. He gave me the example that they cannot go to Canada but can go to France. Don't know about you-I would rather go to France with my loved one!!


I hear ya! We are planning on either the Bahama's or the Caribbean.. So will they let us know what countries he is not allowed? Cause that would really piss me off if they don't then we get there and he is not allowed off the ship...

lovingwifewaiti
12-27-2010, 12:20 AM
I would think if you got a hold of the passport agency they can give you a list of what places they can go. I am planning a vacation for us as well, but next year so I haven't checked into all the details other than asking our lawyer.

tutudancer
12-27-2010, 12:27 AM
i have a felony and i got nothing on what countries i can and can not go to....how is the country to know..i book my flight and fly...there is not pre-registering to the country...i got my passport after my felony too..

britecloud
12-27-2010, 06:28 AM
i have a felony and i got nothing on what countries i can and can not go to....how is the country to know..i book my flight and fly...there is not pre-registering to the country...i got my passport after my felony too..

they know when they run the background check to approve your entry VISA (aka "pre-registring" to enter-good luck getting on an international flight or through customs without one)..since 9/11 almost all countries require a visa to enter- you have to apply to the country's consulate and send your passport to them and they send it back to you with your visa stamped inside. felons for the most part wont have a problem getting a passport (since it is essentially just a piece of identification) but you'll have problems getting a visa to some countries.

devanesgirl- you can go on the countries' websites to see what the visa requirements are. i know from experience that Jamaica has restrictions...but if you wanted to go to the Caribbean with no restrictions remember that the US Virgin Islands and Puerto Rico are part of the US so no visa required.

lovingwifewaiti
12-27-2010, 10:21 AM
i have a felony and i got nothing on what countries i can and can not go to....how is the country to know..i book my flight and fly...there is not pre-registering to the country...i got my passport after my felony too..
As a former TSA employee names are supposed to be registered. You can find yourself in a mess if you enter the country and the detain you as a felon. Better to find out than play games that could get you back behind bars! :eek:

Hallwaywalker
12-27-2010, 11:09 AM
I hear ya! We are planning on either the Bahama's or the Caribbean.. So will they let us know what countries he is not allowed? Cause that would really piss me off if they don't then we get there and he is not allowed off the ship...

Oh darn! What a dratted shame, trapped on this luxurious cruise ship with my loved one, trapped in this tiny, tiny room with nothing in it but a bed. No dear, there **isn't** a remote for the TV, and heavens, it seems to be broken anyway, what with my shoe stuck in the screen and all. Oh my. What fresh hell is this? :dance: :lovestruck:

I know that is going to be a wonderful trip for y'all!!

tutudancer
12-27-2010, 11:18 AM
Ummm no..I went to ireland this yr...and I didn't send my passport anywhere...I booked flight, flew over, they stamped it..I stayed 7 days then flew home!

they know when they run the background check to approve your entry VISA (aka "pre-registring" to enter-good luck getting on an international flight or through customs without one)..since 9/11 almost all countries require a visa to enter- you have to apply to the country's consulate and send your passport to them and they send it back to you with your visa stamped inside. felons for the most part wont have a problem getting a passport (since it is essentially just a piece of identification) but you'll have problems getting a visa to some countries.

devanesgirl- you can go on the countries' websites to see what the visa requirements are. i know from experience that Jamaica has restrictions...but if you wanted to go to the Caribbean with no restrictions remember that the US Virgin Islands and Puerto Rico are part of the US so no visa required.

only1love
12-27-2010, 11:52 AM
It depends on the crime and the country. A passport is an official document to verify citizenship. It does not "vouch for" your charactor. Some folks will have "flags" on their passport. Once that passport is scanned the appropriate authorities are notified. This is how Robert got arrested!US Marshalls were waiting for him at the airport. So check with the country you plan to visit. BTW if in International waters, there could be added international charges!

tutudancer
12-27-2010, 11:54 AM
If there are warrants that's different..

lovingwifewaiti
12-27-2010, 11:55 AM
Than it probably means that whatever your felon is for wasn't a concern to them. If you want to play russian roulette with other countries that should be your choice but I wouldn't advise others to take a risk that will be full of regret, legal battles, and the risk of getting stranded in a foreign country. Better to educate ones self instead of asking for trouble!! Not all countries are easy to deal with. Is it really worth the risk when you can find out without legal trouble? :eek: Think about it!

lovingwifewaiti
12-27-2010, 11:59 AM
It depends on the crime and the country. A passport is an official document to verify citizenship. It does not "vouch for" your charactor. Some folks will have "flags" on their passport. Once that passport is scanned the appropriate authorities are notified. This is how Robert got arrested!US Marshalls were waiting for him at the airport. So check with the country you plan to visit. BTW if in International waters, there could be added international charges!
Thank you for your post!! Not worth the risk in my book to see if you can get through! This is not a game to play with other countries, it can be quite a serious issue. No one should advise someone else to play in dangerous waters just because they haven't been caught. Bad advice!!:angry:

lovingwifewaiti
12-27-2010, 12:18 PM
If there are warrants that's different..
It's not just about warrants. Felons are not welcomed in all countries and that is the reality of it. :mad:

RobinsMan
12-27-2010, 12:48 PM
Robin received her passport after her felony convictions with no problem. There are many countries that one can travel to without a background check to obtain a short term tourist visa. All you need is your US passport. I think that places like St Thomas or St croix require no visa at all.

britecloud
12-27-2010, 01:32 PM
Ummm no..I went to ireland this yr...and I didn't send my passport anywhere...I booked flight, flew over, they stamped it..I stayed 7 days then flew home!

ummmm...you got lucky because The Republic of Ireland (northern is part of the UK) doesnt require US citizens to obtain a visa to visit. not all countries are like that.

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/moving_country/moving_to_ireland/coming_to_live_in_ireland/visa_requirements_for_entering_ireland.html

again, check the nation's website for visa requirements. like lovingwife says- not worth it to take a chance.

royce- st thomas and st croix are part of the us virgin islands...no visa required as theyre us commonwealths.

britecloud
12-27-2010, 01:50 PM
Found this on the US State Department Website. It shows the entry/visa requirements for each country.

http://travel.state.gov/visa/americans/americans_1252.html

from what I can see from browsing a few Caribbean country requirements, cruise passenger requirements are different from those flying in directly so you shouldn't have any problems.

Hope you have a great trip!

RobinsMan
12-27-2010, 02:19 PM
I know. Just a lot to try to type out on the Droid. Point was that travel to nice places for vacation getaways is doable but you have to look around. Robin and I were planning a trip to St croix for the honeymoon we never had when she was arrested this past time. Oh well.

lovingwifewaiti
12-27-2010, 03:02 PM
I know. Just a lot to try to type out on the Droid. Point was that travel to nice places for vacation getaways is doable but you have to look around. Robin and I were planning a trip to St croix for the honeymoon we never had when she was arrested this past time. Oh well.
Well said. Lots of beautiful places we all can enjoy but do your homework. Don't take risks that are unnecessary! Go on vacation to enjoy each other and know everything is wonderful, don't go tense and looking over your shoulder!:cool:

Devanesgirl
12-27-2010, 11:14 PM
Found this on the US State Department Website. It shows the entry/visa requirements for each country.

http://travel.state.gov/visa/americans/americans_1252.html

from what I can see from browsing a few Caribbean country requirements, cruise passenger requirements are different from those flying in directly so you shouldn't have any problems.

Hope you have a great trip!


Thanks to everyone!!! I will look at this site and see what's going on, I am not trying to get him in trouble just for a honeymoon :( I will have to let you all know how it goes!

DeucesALLin
03-30-2011, 03:31 PM
FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE:

I left Oregon, for a plane to Texas to do my parole- the guards "misplaced" my SSN and valid state ID. I COULD NOT GET ONE WITHOUT THE OTHER!!! My final resort was to get a passport, to get a TDL. I have NOT been ordered to surrender my passport, and WAS in good standing. The clerk at the desk decided I shouldnt go. I got rejected untill I can prove that I CAN go... if I had just used my state ID I would have my passport, no questions asked. Just do NOT mention your a felon.

Devanesgirl
03-31-2011, 10:31 PM
Yea we will have to get his ID cause it is expired but I have his SS card and ID with me here, I didn't wanna chance it with them having it! lol He won't be on paper at all when he gets out! So I am not going to tell them or mention it or anything... I just didn't know if the paperwork had it on there or what?!? But I mean many people have them but I guess if you are on paper and your PO says you can't go anywhere then you can't, but they can't just not give you one because you are a felon correct?

FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE:

I left Oregon, for a plane to Texas to do my parole- the guards "misplaced" my SSN and valid state ID. I COULD NOT GET ONE WITHOUT THE OTHER!!! My final resort was to get a passport, to get a TDL. I have NOT been ordered to surrender my passport, and WAS in good standing. The clerk at the desk decided I shouldnt go. I got rejected untill I can prove that I CAN go... if I had just used my state ID I would have my passport, no questions asked. Just do NOT mention your a felon.

davidsouthtexas
05-05-2011, 01:05 PM
This has probably been answered as I did not read all the posts but the answer is yes I have one. I have been out of Tdcj since 2003 and discharged since 2005. I applied in 2007 and had no problems at all.

OffenderNoMore
05-05-2011, 01:58 PM
So does anyone know if felons can get passports? I mean I don't see why they couldn't but I just want to make sure. I am planning a cruise for my hubby and me for our honeymoon when he gets home. I wanted to make sure that he is allowed to get a passport though. He won't be on parole, it's a state jail felony and he has nothing aggravated in his record at all. Anyways if anyone knows any information that would be greatly appreciated!!!

Hi. My hubby and I both have passports as felons. The problem is not the passport. The problem will be the country you may want to go to. Several countries will not allow felons from the united states in. So, the passport is doable. Just make sure to check out the destination before you pay anything out.

Myguysinmoco
05-05-2011, 05:37 PM
I was told by my husband's p.o. that a passport is just another form of ID, like a drivers license, and he can get one. We are hoping to cruise some time in the future, I was also told by the p.o. that it is actually up to the country you are entering to allow or not allow you in. I cruised to Mexico from Texas and only had to show my passport when checking in at the desk when entering the ship and of course the employees doing the checking worked for the cruise line and didn't really act like passports were any big deal, if they didn't allow one on the ship, it would be up to them to refund the cruise ticket, so yeah, its not a big deal really.

Devanesgirl
05-05-2011, 06:54 PM
It wasn't really answered fully but thank you!

pgstr
08-14-2011, 09:39 AM
Thanks to everyone!!! I will look at this site and see what's going on, I am not trying to get him in trouble just for a honeymoon :( I will have to let you all know how it goes!


Post 9/11 Canada (and other countries) and the US entered into a database sharing agreement, and if you have a felony, or any drug-related conviction, on your record when they scan your passport, your entire record will come up. A friend who had been out of TDCJ for 25 years, with a perfectly clean record since then, and had received a pardon in order to be able to vote again, was detained for 4 hours going into Canada to start an Alaskan cruise. They had his entire file, were asking why some of his tattoos were different from what was in the file (he had some of them modified to get rid of names, former gang affiliations, etc.). He was given the choice to get on the next plane back to the US, spend the night in jail, or be escorted directly to the boat and sign an affidavit swearing he would never enter Canada again. This required them to forego two excursions off the ship that would be in Canada but it seemed the lesser of the evils offered. His wife (who has no record) was detained at the same time, and the couple with whom they were traveling were not given any information as to what was going on.

Doing research after they returned, I discovered they might have been able to avoid that by petitioning a certain ministry in Canada ahead of time to get permission for him to enter the country, and that people from the US who had minor marijuana possession convictions from the '70s were facing the same kind of treatment when trying to enter Canada these days. The cruise line offered no information to them when they were booking the cruise, but then I suppose they probably think some people would be offended that they might think they had a record?

So just because you can get a passport, does not necessarily mean you can enter a country without any problems with a felony record.

shotjas
08-14-2011, 05:21 PM
I would venture to say, in addition to the information above poster gave, I have always contacted the US Embassy in any country that I am visiting. While I still have to receive a visa to be permitted to do any work in those countries, calling ahead and having the US Embassy or that countries ministry have the paperwork already filed ahead of time - saves a TON of hassle and time when going through security checkpoints. 9/11 happened, and the post 9/11 world we live in really sucks. Crap happens and happens to everyone. The effect that it has on the world now, absolutely no one trusts anyone anymore - not even their own family. Felons are what amounts to a terrorist in the laws eyes... I even got detained as a suspected terrorist because of my profession (Physicist and Software Engineer).