View Full Version : Is it against the law to have your young child urinate in public?


Mrs.sanchez2010
11-07-2010, 05:09 AM
hey to everyone! Well, something just crossed my mind and Im really curious about it.. for everyone who does not know, Im a european , and we don`t have such harsh laws overhere then in the US.. well, and im really cracking my head about something.. actually it is not that important and Im not refering to anyone, nor do i try to be offensive.. but i really wonder about following thing.. Since In the USA is someone that" eased him/herself " on the road and got caught doing so considered a sexoffender(which is very rediculos to us as european, since we dont have such a law).. and honestly speaking- who did not pee on the outside ever?? well ,but im getting off topic-lol.. Im wondering about " what would happen, if , lets say for example,i would have a kid about 7 years old and i would let him/ her pee in the public"??? would i get charged with child-abuse? or would i be consdiered a sexoffender or what?? I mean , everyone that is having kids , surely went through the situation that your son/ daughter needed to use the restroom, but no public toilet in seight.. In Europe - no big deal, let the kid pee on the road..- nobody, not even cops, would pay attention- since you have to choose between "tell your child pee in his/her pants and let him/ her pull down the pants and have a pee in public!" BUT what about in the US??.. I hope nobody is feeling offended by me asking this question.. but Im just curious! I have been many times to the US and my husband is serving his prisontime in the US, but i never had to face this situation... i wonder how many have to say something about this:)..

HisLoveAwaits
11-07-2010, 05:55 AM
I believe if anything its classified under Indecent Exposure.

Hisoneandonly
11-07-2010, 07:32 AM
Hmmm...I"m actually not sure...but there was a 4 or 5 year old little boy peeing at the park this past weekend, lol his mom when she finally realized what he was doing spanked him...Its just a kid sheesh...and while I wouldn't be happy if mine peed in public, if it was an er, like no bathroom in site (and yes I have peed on the side of dirt roads many times in high school lol I would carry toliet paper with me in my truck)..

I would more worry about a predator being around and getting his/her jollys on my kid peeing.

But I'm going to watch this thread b/c I don't know if there is any laws directed for children.

LeBeau
11-07-2010, 07:52 AM
That would vary wildly with jurisdiction- In most rural areas, no one would think much of it if a child "watered a bush" but in more densely populated urban and suburban areas, it would probably be considered a public health violation- The child that just upped and dropped trou before the parent/guardian could react would most likely scold the child and legal action, even if a cop saw it with his own eyes, would be unlikely but the adult who urges a child to relieve themselves in the public right of way might very well face a citation and, depending on circumstance, possibly an investigation from CPS (Child Protective Services).

sidewalker
11-07-2010, 07:59 AM
I dont know either but I would never put it past someone to make trouble.
For me, I would wet myself before peeing in public.

aba
11-07-2010, 08:04 AM
I think if they're under 7 it's probably not going to result in any time.

CoNpal
11-07-2010, 08:27 AM
Alrighty then...Good post. My two cents is this...

Why would anybody teach their kid it's ok to pee on the street? Pissing on the street is part of the reason why the streets of Europe STINK SO BAD.

I have twins and they've never peed in their pants walking down the street because we couldn't find a potty in time. I'm not saying there's never been a time we had to make due with nature but not on a city street. That's just ick.

So the answer to your questions are that in America, it is against societal more's to pee on the street. And no little kids would be deemed sex offenders even if they did do it. That's ludacrous.


hey to everyone! Well, something just crossed my mind and Im really curious about it.. for everyone who does not know, Im a european , and we don`t have such harsh laws overhere then in the US.. well, and im really cracking my head about something.. actually it is not that important and Im not refering to anyone, nor do i try to be offensive.. but i really wonder about following thing.. Since In the USA is someone that" eased him/herself " on the road and got caught doing so considered a sexoffender(which is very rediculos to us as european, since we dont have such a law).. and honestly speaking- who did not pee on the outside ever?? well ,but im getting off topic-lol.. Im wondering about " what would happen, if , lets say for example,i would have a kid about 7 years old and i would let him/ her pee in the public"??? would i get charged with child-abuse? or would i be consdiered a sexoffender or what?? I mean , everyone that is having kids , surely went through the situation that your son/ daughter needed to use the restroom, but no public toilet in seight.. In Europe - no big deal, let the kid pee on the road..- nobody, not even cops, would pay attention- since you have to choose between "tell your child pee in his/her pants and let him/ her pull down the pants and have a pee in public!" BUT what about in the US??.. I hope nobody is feeling offended by me asking this question.. but Im just curious! I have been many times to the US and my husband is serving his prisontime in the US, but i never had to face this situation... i wonder how many have to say something about this:)..

Hugaboom
11-07-2010, 09:01 AM
I certainly hope it's not against the law because each of my children have had to pee on the side of the interstate/highway at some point. You can't tell a 3 year old "just 15 more miles, Hun".

Oh, and I can recall in high school/college there being a time I had to ask my friends to turn down a dirt road because our laughter had me near peeing my pants.

lilsoldierette0
11-07-2010, 09:10 AM
Alrighty then...Good post. My two cents is this...

Why would anybody teach their kid it's ok to pee on the street? Pissing on the street is part of the reason why the streets of Europe STINK SO BAD.

I have twins and they've never peed in their pants walking down the street because we couldn't find a potty in time. I'm not saying there's never been a time we had to make due with nature but not on a city street. That's just ick.

So the answer to your questions are that in America, it is against societal more's to pee on the street. And no little kids would be deemed sex offenders even if they did do it. That's ludacrous.


I don't think she meant in the middle of the wall st district in NYC, :D But I am going to admit that while driving down the freeway between the exits and rest stops I have had to pull over for my kids. The exits are 50 miles apart...like someone else said -- you cant tell a 3 or 4 year old to wait 25 minutes to get to the next rest stop. And I sure ain't going to have them wet themselves. As long as its done discreetly, and its a last resort..I don't think the cops would say anything.

CoNpal
11-07-2010, 09:16 AM
I don't think she meant in the middle of the wall st district in NYC, :D But I am going to admit that while driving down the freeway between the exits and rest stops I have had to pull over for my kids. The exits are 50 miles apart...like someone else said -- you cant tell a 3 or 4 year old to wait 25 minutes to get to the next rest stop. And I sure ain't going to have them wet themselves. As long as its done discreetly, and its a last resort..I don't think the cops would say anything.
Honey, in Europe, some piss on the city streets...no joke. I mean, not everybody but it happens often enough to alert the nose...

Yeah, sometimes we all have to make due with nature n little kids. I just think it's important to teach modesty about these type matters. :)

lilsoldierette0
11-07-2010, 09:20 AM
Honey, in Europe, some piss on the city streets...no joke. I mean, not everybody but it happens often enough to alert the nose...

Yeah, sometimes we all have to make due with nature n little kids. I just think it's important to teach modesty about these type matters. :)


Well of course, no one wants their kid whipping his/her pants down in plain view lol especially with all these crazy people running around now. But I think you are right, we as a society do hold our citizens to a high standard when it comes to public indecency and the like...and from a health standpoint that is important, because it cuts down on disease etc...

thatwiz
11-07-2010, 09:40 AM
I don't know but its in very poor taste and other people don't really want to see it. A child is not a dog. If the child needs diapers or pullups, they need to be wearing them. If they are immediate and can't hold it, protection is a necessity.If a child can hold it, fast food restaurants, gas stations, hotels, some stores, pretty much everywhere has restrooms and I think there are options instead of relieving oneself on the street. There are even some cell phone apps I believe that locate restrooms.

Mrs.sanchez2010
11-07-2010, 09:47 AM
Honey, in Europe, some piss on the city streets...no joke. I mean, not everybody but it happens often enough to alert the nose...

Yeah, sometimes we all have to make due with nature n little kids. I just think it's important to teach modesty about these type matters. :)
excuse me- but when have you been here .. in the fifty`s? and i dont know why you are getting offensive.. dont tell me that you have never peed in a bush, after a party or something.. and as a matter fact the Us city`s are MUCH dirtier then IN WESTERN EUROPE!! im not talking about east euopean countries- but even those have become much better..and i have to agree- you CAN NOT TELL A KID on a highway 15 more miles!or maybe our cars stink too , since we piss everywhere..

Hugaboom
11-07-2010, 10:12 AM
The children aren't left out by the side of the road so that all passerbyers can see. Geesh! As any good parent would do you either pull off on a side road and if there is none you shield your child with the door of the car and with what you have handy (blanket, or with yourself).

LOL and to assume you'd put your 3-7 yr old in a diaper pullup for an extended drive is rediculous. Suggest it to any that are potty trained and see how far you get. Better yet try to wrestle it on the kid. :D Any that have children know that it doesn't matter how often you check to make sure they don't have to "go" before you start. There's always that surprise emergency. Adapt or clean pee out of your car. ;)

Mrs.sanchez2010
11-07-2010, 10:46 AM
I don't know but its in very poor taste and other people don't really want to see it. A child is not a dog. If the child needs diapers or pullups, they need to be wearing them. If they are immediate and can't hold it, protection is a necessity.If a child can hold it, fast food restaurants, gas stations, hotels, some stores, pretty much everywhere has restrooms and I think there are options instead of relieving oneself on the street. There are even some cell phone apps I believe that locate restrooms.
oh come on.. if your child needs to pee - you wont have the time to check on any apps to find a restroom..

secondtimer
11-07-2010, 11:29 AM
This post made me chuckle a little. No one teaches their child to whip it out in, nor cop a squat. But I am sure if some one has been around children emergencies do occur and you discreetly take them near a tree and cover them as much as you can with out getting a foot shower yourself.
I have never heard it being labeled sexual offender but maybe indecent exposure once they get older and should no better.
It is really silly to arrest someone for it who goes in a bush to relieve themselves versus some one doing it in the middle of Main Street.

PTO-92958
11-07-2010, 12:03 PM
Okay everybody, simmer down please. This was not meant to be a bash-fest between the US and Europe.
The OP was posing an honest question regarding US laws and the repercussions that may or may not fall upon the parent.
FWIW, large US cities are really quite dirty. With one notable exception that I can think of immediately...Boston. Now, go to Montreal and you will see a perfect example of most of Europe. Note the absence of litter. Just sayin'.

Geauxin'KraZee
11-07-2010, 12:37 PM
If that's the case with little children , then to me that's going way too far! Grown kids and adults ok! Little kids? Come on give me a break! A small Childs kidneys and bladder are very small and immature. I think mommy is also smart enough to teach her child in a loving way that next time they should try to go before they leave home and/or bring a port a potty on the next trip! Of course if the child has to go, I believe the parent should make an honest attempt to try to shield the child from view with some type of partition.

Mrs.sanchez2010
11-07-2010, 01:18 PM
okok- i never thought that my question is going to heat up emotions.. i was just asking since to us, overhere in europe, it is quiet hard to understand the harsh sentence- system in the US.. f.e. the three count issue in california.. i mean come on.. the economy of EVERY Country is sort of going down and in the contrary billions of dollars are spend on LONGterm imprisonments?? whiles the "average" person is out there homeless and starving? They could do so many GOOD & specially USEFULL things- instead of spending it on wars and "keeping people locked up".. NO OFFENCE!!!!- but BUT TRUE!!!!! as long as peolpe are poor and suffering crimes will be committed( everywhere!!) for whatever reason.. AND NOW, just because i have asked an question- it get`s some people upset.. but why? i did not try to offend anyone in anyway- i was just curious!! And to me I`M not a bad mother, just because if it were neccessary, i have had to let my kid pee on the "outside" to avoid that he/she eased in his/her pants! of course did i cover my kid and of course - i did not let it happen on the main road- but incedents can occure -EVERYWHERE in the world.. to me it does not make us to better/worse people, if we let our kids pee in a bush.

sucker4mylove
11-07-2010, 06:44 PM
FWIW, i have visited ten? (maybe more) different countries in europe, all off-season, and no place i went to smelled bad. Lisbon smells like coffee! maybe in hot weather european cities smell bad, as does any city in the heat.

i noticed two things in my travels - 1: wonderful public restrooms where they are needed, and 2: many countries put their poor people to work cleaning the streets or manning/womanning those clean public restrooms. what a concept - creating jobs to keep the city clean!

the whole peeing in public thing in the US is ridiculous. it's a natural requirement to pee. of course, be discreet!

PTO-92958
11-07-2010, 11:33 PM
the economy of EVERY Country is sort of going down and in the contrary billions of dollars are spend on LONGterm imprisonments?? whiles the "average" person is out there homeless and starving?

Quite appalling isn't it?
Shameful even. :mad:

Oh, and no worries hon, you did not create a stir here with your thread. People get emotional over some of the darndest things.

Mitch67
11-08-2010, 02:52 AM
Okay - for the record it IS an offence to pee in public in the UK. It is a public order offence so please don't think that we can all just walk around and pee wherever we like when we like. I think members of the Rolling Stones are the most famous to fall foul of this law at some point in the sixties! Anyways the penalty for peeing in public now is an on the spot fine of 80 (approximately $120).

That said I think we can all appreciate that from time to time a kid needs to pee. As long as it is discreet and not made a habit of then surely we can just let that pass can't we?

Tjames85
11-08-2010, 04:38 AM
The children aren't left out by the side of the road so that all passerbyers can see. Geesh! As any good parent would do you either pull off on a side road and if there is none you shield your child with the door of the car and with what you have handy (blanket, or with yourself).

LOL and to assume you'd put your 3-7 yr old in a diaper pullup for an extended drive is rediculous. Suggest it to any that are potty trained and see how far you get. Better yet try to wrestle it on the kid. :D Any that have children know that it doesn't matter how often you check to make sure they don't have to "go" before you start. There's always that surprise emergency. Adapt or clean pee out of your car. ;)

You would think that but about a month ago I guess this little boy had to pee so as him and his mom were walking past my school, I was walking to the bus stop, he dropped his pants and peed facing the street right in front of me. I was like what the fuck. He was like 5 and mom did not say or do anything. I am not a predator but this woman did not know me at all. Also its a technical school for adults so they would have allowed her to take her kid in to pee. I just shook my head and walked on by.

To the OP, a huge problem in america is that once in a while we apply adult laws to children. Their was a case a while ago where a guy was able to legally force his neighbors daughter to stop her lemonade stand business because she didn't have the right permits. As for sex crimes we really need to fix those. You can be labeled as a sex offender if you take naked pictures of yourself and send them to your boyfriend or girlfriend if you are a minor. Its considered distributing child pornography. Ditto for your boyfriend or girlfriend who is then in possession of child pornography. This can become really confusing in states where a person under 25 can legally have sex with someone 16 or 17. A lot of teens in this country are now labeled as sex offenders for the rest of their life for what they thought was harmless sexting, (sex texting).

smithdb2008
11-08-2010, 05:57 AM
I honestly think all little boys like to pee "outside". Being the mother of boys and girls, I have noticed this thru the years. But in our society in the United States, I think the issue is more about exposing one's self. It is strictly forbidden. I can remember when we used to stop on the side of road to pee on family vacations. There simply were no service stations or roadside parks. To each their own ....

Sunflower
11-08-2010, 06:56 AM
I have a 5 year old with an over active bladder ( Dr even had to write a note for school) We have "peed" on almost every highway and parking lot in NC!! I keep a gallon of water to wash it off so he doesnt leave pee stains, and I keep a blanket to shield him from people seeing him, even had a cop pull up once and ask if everything was ok when I said we were potty trainin he just said have a nice day and pulled away. I also have a 7 year old that cant pee outside, he will be in pain but cant make himself go!! But my 5 year old has marked his territory all over the state!! If ys gotta go ya gotta go!!

Lonzo's Lady..
11-08-2010, 07:35 AM
I have a 5 year old with an over active bladder ( Dr even had to write a note for school) We have "peed" on almost every highway and parking lot in NC!! I keep a gallon of water to wash it off so he doesnt leave pee stains, and I keep a blanket to shield him from people seeing him, even had a cop pull up once and ask if everything was ok when I said we were potty trainin he just said have a nice day and pulled away. I also have a 7 year old that cant pee outside, he will be in pain but cant make himself go!! But my 5 year old has marked his territory all over the state!! If ys gotta go ya gotta go!!

My 11 y.o. son received a kidney transplant late last year and he now has an over active bladder due to the anti-rejection meds he's on. Sunday we went to visit my husband in TDC and because I anticipated his needs I tossed an empty plastic coffee container and lid in the back of my SUV and he didn't mark any of the territories we crossed and I didn't have to pull off the highway at all. He just jumps in the back seat and does what he needs to do, :flush: grabs a wet wipe for his hands and no one is the wiser.
When we reached the prison I forgot about the car search and the C.O. at the gate was very red-faced :o when I explained what it was and why.
Back to the original question I would hope I wouldn't be charged with a crime for letting my child (when he was younger) go in public but here in the good old USA one never knows :shrug:....Marcia

Lost2/25/10
11-08-2010, 10:53 AM
It is against the law for even child to pee in public however most cops won't say nothing just because it's a child and well where I am from that's how little boy learn how to potty train. My son's have never pee on a highway but if we are at the park and the restrooms are close they will find a tree away from everyone and pee on it. I don't think it's a big deal little boys find it funny to pee on a tree like dogs do so they do it. There was once when my daughter was 1 and my oldest was 3 that my daughter called 911 playing with the phone so the cops had to come out even know nothing was wrong and when the cop showed up my son was peeing on a tree, the cop was a d*ck and told me that I need to teach my son that he could not do that and that if for any reason seen us out and my son pee's on a tree again he would give me a ticket. I just laughed at him cuz we was in the county and no one was around. So I guess it's if a cop is a perk or not but it is against the law.

Sunflower
11-08-2010, 08:54 PM
My 11 y.o. son received a kidney transplant late last year and he now has an over active bladder due to the anti-rejection meds he's on. Sunday we went to visit my husband in TDC and because I anticipated his needs I tossed an empty plastic coffee container and lid in the back of my SUV and he didn't mark any of the territories we crossed and I didn't have to pull off the highway at all. He just jumps in the back seat and does what he needs to do, :flush: grabs a wet wipe for his hands and no one is the wiser.
When we reached the prison I forgot about the car search and the C.O. at the gate was very red-faced :o when I explained what it was and why.
Back to the original question I would hope I wouldn't be charged with a crime for letting my child (when he was younger) go in public but here in the good old USA one never knows :shrug:....Marcia



TRUST ME WE HAVE TRIED the empty container in the back seat and he cant make the "hole" if you will, that why I keep a gallon of water in the car, so HE can wash it off. Im not teaching him its ok to pee anywhere and he needs to wash it off, but its much better than in my car!!!!!!!!!!!
TO each is its own!!!!!!!!!! If a deer can pee on the road so can my over active bladder son!!!!!

firefly369
11-08-2010, 09:55 PM
If you make it a big deal, it will be a big deal. I have lived most of my life in the Pacific Northwest and have myself many times utilized the great outdoors - as have my children. Now, would I or my children use a city street? Of course not and I dont think that is what the OP is saying, lets be reasonable.

In answer to your question. I think that if it (the peeing) was handled with tact there would be no police officer that would find a problem with it. Off the side of a highway or country road etc... Now, if an adult was urinating in public (in populated areas) then yes, there very well could be a problem, although I doubt there would be sex offender charges unless the peeing was more than that (exposing etc)

Lonzo's Lady..
11-08-2010, 11:17 PM
TRUST ME WE HAVE TRIED the empty container in the back seat and he cant make the "hole" if you will, that why I keep a gallon of water in the car, so HE can wash it off. Im not teaching him its ok to pee anywhere and he needs to wash it off, but its much better than in my car!!!!!!!!!!!
TO each is its own!!!!!!!!!! If a deer can pee on the road so can my over active bladder son!!!!!

I grab the BIG 2 lb. coffee container and Lord knows if KC can't find that hole I'll never have to worry about him becoming a dad! :o
BTW; I was not criticizing your method I just stated my own and I'll bet any Mom with a little boy has used yours before too, I know I have. You said it best LisaSutton, to each his own :thumbsup: ...Marcia

Sunflower
11-09-2010, 03:50 PM
I grab the BIG 2 lb. coffee container and Lord knows if KC can't find that hole I'll never have to worry about him becoming a dad! :o
BTW; I was not criticizing your method I just stated my own and I'll bet any Mom with a little boy has used yours before too, I know I have. You said it best LisaSutton, to each his own :thumbsup: ...Marcia



LOL thats to funny!!

crazigirl
11-09-2010, 05:03 PM
OMG i got four boys an i cant even tell ya how many times i have had to pull over hell i have had to run behind a bush in my day too ya gotta pee ya gotta pee lmao ha ha

Hisoneandonly
11-09-2010, 06:06 PM
LMAO...I thought of this trhead today on the way home from work I was cross the train tracks and some guy was peeing on them lol..

thatwiz
11-10-2010, 06:20 AM
Over active bladder??? Then you need to go out with a pull up on no matter what age you are. If there's a chance there's going to be an accident, its better to be safe. If thats your medical condition, I don't think peeing outside is an acceptable solution. If you want jugs of urine in your car, thats you. I have a teen due to a medical condition that does need diapers, so I still don't think going outside is acceptable or cute. There are other ways being ignored and noone even wants to see someone blanketed by a highway. If your little kid can't hold it, they still need pull ups-why embarrass the child making them pee in public.

Sunflower
11-10-2010, 03:36 PM
Over active bladder??? Then you need to go out with a pull up on no matter what age you are. If there's a chance there's going to be an accident, its better to be safe. If thats your medical condition, I don't think peeing outside is an acceptable solution. If you want jugs of urine in your car, thats you. I have a teen due to a medical condition that does need diapers, so I still don't think going outside is acceptable or cute. There are other ways being ignored and noone even wants to see someone blanketed by a highway. If your little kid can't hold it, they still need pull ups-why embarrass the child making them pee in public.

Everyone has their own opinion!!! I am not going to embarrass my son and make him wear a pull up because he has an over active bladder. Ive seen much worse on the side of the highway than a peeing 5 year old, and trust me he doesn't mind peeing anywhere he can as long as it isnt on himself!!

yourself
11-10-2010, 03:52 PM
Here's my .02. If you encourage a child to pee in public in such a way that an adult would get busted for urinating in public, you will get arrested for contributing to the delinquency of a minor. The Department of Children and Family Services will get called and start an investigation.

Now, I'm not talking peeing in someplace other than a bathroom. If you're out and about and nowhere where there are cops or people to take offense, then you may be outside, but that's not exactly public. So, if you're doing a 20 mile hike in the middle of the woods, or little Johnny can't hold it to the next rest stop and you stop, open the door, and let little Johnny water the flowers, you're not going to get busted. But, if you're someplace really public, you're going to get into trouble. Basically, if you can't get away with it but encourage a child to do it, you're risking getting busted.

Oh, and yeah, charges vary by jurisdiction. You can expect Public Urination, Indecent Exposure, Lewd and Lascivious Conduct, Littering, and Public Nuisance, to name a few potential charges. Remember, these are your charges, not the child's. A child of tender years needs protection, so if you hide a brick of coke in a baby's diaper, you're getting charged, not the baby. But the baby will become a ward of the state, but that's a different question.

I'd think, to get charged, it would have to be blatant, and the adult would really have to encourage it. I have yet to hear of a plumbing showroom call out the cops because little Johnny dropped trow and peed in a floor model toilet. It happens all the time that a young child will do that in such a showroom, but nobody ever calls the cops.

In other words, you'd have to encourage your kid to drop trow and pee right in front of everybody, including a cop, in a populated area, and without any attempt at discretion. So, if you're getting a parking ticket and start arguing with a parking officer and little Johnny says, "Mom! I really need to pee!" and you tell him to go ahead, pee on the officer, you're going to go down.

sucker4mylove
11-10-2010, 07:46 PM
If a deer can pee on the road so can my over active bladder son!!!!!

to me, this is the main point. not to be blatant about it, but it is a NATURAL ACT. should we put diapers on dogs?

Lonzo's Lady..
11-11-2010, 09:08 PM
Over active bladder??? Then you need to go out with a pull up on no matter what age you are. If there's a chance there's going to be an accident, its better to be safe. If thats your medical condition, I don't think peeing outside is an acceptable solution. If you want jugs of urine in your car, thats you. I have a teen due to a medical condition that does need diapers, so I still don't think going outside is acceptable or cute. There are other ways being ignored and noone even wants to see someone blanketed by a highway. If your little kid can't hold it, they still need pull ups-why embarrass the child making them pee in public.

Thanks for your opinion BUT I'm Kacey's Mom and when it comes to him I get to do it my way. ;) I never said I have jugs of urine :confused: in my car, I said when I'm unable to pull over I encourage him to do what he needs to do and we empty and rinse when we get to a restroom. I would never make my 11 year old son wear diapers BECAUSE HE DOES NOT NEED THEM. He is completely potty trained but on long road trips when he needs to go he needs to go. My son was in Renal Failure from age 16 months until he received his transplant last year; that sensation of urgency is still very new to him and over time it will fade, but the urge to go makes him want to go NOW. At this point I'm so glad his body can produce urine that I don't give a flying fig where he pee's and neither should anyone else. It sounds like folks are making a mountain out of a mole hill and that is so unnecessary....Marcia

thatwiz
11-12-2010, 10:52 AM
Its not age that determines whether you need a diaper and its not embarrassing for anyone to wear one at any age, so I disagree with you. I think you are teaching a child not to be sensitive to those who wear a diaper. Its not a bad thing. There is nothing wrong with diapers.

FriscoLady
11-14-2010, 12:48 PM
okok- i never thought that my question is going to heat up emotions.. i was just asking since to us, overhere in europe, it is quiet hard to understand the harsh sentence- system in the US.. f.e. the three count issue in california.. i mean come on.. the economy of EVERY Country is sort of going down and in the contrary billions of dollars are spend on LONGterm imprisonments?? whiles the "average" person is out there homeless and starving? They could do so many GOOD & specially USEFULL things- instead of spending it on wars and "keeping people locked up".. NO OFFENCE!!!!- but BUT TRUE!!!!! as long as peolpe are poor and suffering crimes will be committed( everywhere!!) for whatever reason.. AND NOW, just because i have asked an question- it get`s some people upset.. but why? i did not try to offend anyone in anyway- i was just curious!! And to me I`M not a bad mother, just because if it were neccessary, i have had to let my kid pee on the "outside" to avoid that he/she eased in his/her pants! of course did i cover my kid and of course - i did not let it happen on the main road- but incedents can occure -EVERYWHERE in the world.. to me it does not make us to better/worse people, if we let our kids pee in a bush.

Girl from a fellow European - I have lived in the U.S. since I was 11, been on both sides of the U.S. supposed justice system and I have no clue why the U.S. system is so harsh.

As for peeing on a tree, raised four children they have watered more than a few trees on long trips in their day. Though I will admit I never let them go out in the open on the side the road, so we never tested the local laws.

Never encouraged it, but from one Mom to another, when they have to go and the facilities were no where to be found - I stopped and we headed for the tree line, post haste!

Somewhere, somehow, Linda or I have seen the term "Prison Nation" don't remember in what context. But that is what we call the U.S. these days at least she and I.

Patti